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Well we knew this sht was coming....(darnold)

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  • S SD_Tom

    They're a bad team because they've never seriously addressed the qb situation.  Overdrafting 3rd and 4th stringers hasn't worked for 10+years.  It's time to go all in for a #1qb finally. 

    The OL is fine.  

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #50

    @sd_tom said:

    They're a bad team because they've never seriously addressed the qb situation.  Overdrafting 3rd and 4th stringers hasn't worked for 10+years.  It's time to go all in for a #1qb finally. 

    The OL is fine.  

    Per that Video posted on here recently....if that is what you want....you would want either Baker Mayfield or Mason Rudolph.

  • C Clevfan4life wrote on
    #51

    Ive been cussinng out this o line for years but this year our qb's have had time to throw, too much time. Yes they still give up some sacks but its not the cut primary edge rushers loose clowns from years previous

  • Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on
    #52

    Unit cohesion is greater, but  the addition-by-subtraction called Cam Erving has been a big part of that. The practice reps we must have wasted on that guy...

    ... yet our FO got a 5th for him IIRC...

    Cam Erving 2017 PFF Grade:

    Overall

    37.9

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  • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on
    #53

    Why does Darnold care? Clearly we're taking Jackson

    Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
  • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody

    Why does Darnold care? Clearly we're taking Jackson

    C Clevfan4life wrote on
    #54

    @mld-woody said:

    Why does Darnold care? Clearly we're taking Jackson

    Because he wants a successful nfl carreer and not early onset CTE by the end of his rookie contract......just a guess. 

    Ok im trolling a bit the o line isnt that bad this year. But put urself in darnolds shoes.....its clear as day the browns are headed for another reset. So anything that was built this year will go back to zero next year...offense, defense etc, etc. Just so some brand new coksucker can come in and go 1-15. Would u want to be under center when a brand new blocking scheme gets implimented and possibly with some new ol cause one or two guys jumped out of this dumpster fire....???  

    Its Shmucking bullsht. Im not happy with the job hue has done but another reset is another 2 years of rebuild. Just when we're seeing a semi functional defense we're gonna run 2-5 bext year and garrett will be asked to come in 40 lbs lighter so he can chase slot receivers downfield. 

    Im sick of this sht

  • Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on
    #55

    A SoCal kid doesn't need a football reason to not want to live in NE Ohio... past September...

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  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    A SoCal kid doesn't need a football reason to not want to live in NE Ohio... past September...

    Mark OM Mark O wrote on
    #56

    @tour2ma said:

    A SoCal kid doesn't need a football reason to not want to live in NE Ohio... past September...

    You can say that again.  

  • C Clevfan4life wrote on
    #57

    Pussies,i love NE ohio seasons. Wut i hate are these slushy semi cold winters. It snows, then it melts in a day and turns to mud. When i was a kid we had right proper seasons......fukking global warming

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  • C Clevfan4life wrote on
    #58

    And ive lived in CA. Liked it, but lime ohio better.

  • Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on
    #59

    You mean "lime-ah"?

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  • LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares

    @tour2ma said:

    Attaboy...

    Tour, how has Drango filled in for Joe so far? I ask you because you seem to be the fella to ask on O line critiques.

    W wargograw wrote on
    #60

    @logicisforsquares said:

    Tour, how has Drango filled in for Joe so far? I ask you because you seem to be the fella to ask on O line critiques.

    Who cares? We're 0-10. Fire everyone amirite?

  • W wargograw

    @logicisforsquares said:

    Tour, how has Drango filled in for Joe so far? I ask you because you seem to be the fella to ask on O line critiques.

    Who cares? We're 0-10. Fire everyone amirite?

    LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on
    #61

    @wargograw said:

    Who cares? We're 0-10. Fire everyone amirite?

    Seeing how players might perform for a competent coach and FO is important. I am beginning to think that you and Sashi are an item.

    😂
  • W wargograw wrote on
    #62

    #FireDrango

  • W wargograw

    #FireDrango

    LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on
    #63

    @wargograw said:

    #FireDrango

    Don't say something like that. Drango might read it on the internet and just fall apart.

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  • LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares

    @tour2ma said:

    Attaboy...

    Tour, how has Drango filled in for Joe so far? I ask you because you seem to be the fella to ask on O line critiques.

    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on
    #64

    @logicisforsquares said:

    Tour, how has Drango filled in for Joe so far? I ask you because you seem to be the fella to ask on O line critiques.

    Pretty sure my answer would have been different had you asked this today...

    A couple of the sacks he allowed weren't totally on him. Yes, the DE gained the edge on him, but Drango was still guiding the DE deeper and potentially around Kizer. IN the first instance Kizer stepped up... right into pressure up the middle. In the 2nd... the late strip-sack-botched-recovery-JAX-TD... Kizer could have stepped up but instead did the worst thing a QB can do. He drifted back and away from the pressure ensuring the speed rushing DE nails him.

     Also I would not be surprised if Drango was not the worst graded OL this game. Zeitler was getting owned repeatedly... beaten by quick swims (early)... bulls middle... and a lot of stuff late.

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  • LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares

    @wargograw said:

    #FireDrango

    Don't say something like that. Drango might read it on the internet and just fall apart.

    W wargograw wrote on
    #65

    @logicisforsquares said:

    Don't say something like that. Drango might read it on the internet and just fall apart.

    Good thing I'm just quoting you. Let's draft all new linemen this year. They're 0-9.

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  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    @logicisforsquares said:

    Tour, how has Drango filled in for Joe so far? I ask you because you seem to be the fella to ask on O line critiques.

    Pretty sure my answer would have been different had you asked this today...

    A couple of the sacks he allowed weren't totally on him. Yes, the DE gained the edge on him, but Drango was still guiding the DE deeper and potentially around Kizer. IN the first instance Kizer stepped up... right into pressure up the middle. In the 2nd... the late strip-sack-botched-recovery-JAX-TD... Kizer could have stepped up but instead did the worst thing a QB can do. He drifted back and away from the pressure ensuring the speed rushing DE nails him.

     Also I would not be surprised if Drango was not the worst graded OL this game. Zeitler was getting owned repeatedly... beaten by quick swims (early)... bulls middle... and a lot of stuff late.

    stillmotionS stillmotion wrote on
    #66

    @tour2ma said:

    Kizer could have stepped up but instead did the worst thing a QB can do. He drifted back and away from the pressure ensuring the speed rushing DE nails him.

    Would you say Kizer is growing and getting better, or getting worse as the season goes forward?

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  • W wargograw

    @logicisforsquares said:

    Don't say something like that. Drango might read it on the internet and just fall apart.

    Good thing I'm just quoting you. Let's draft all new linemen this year. They're 0-9.

    LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on
    #67

    @wargograw said:

    Good thing I'm just quoting you. Let's draft all new linemen this year. They're 0-9.

    You said to “Fire Drango”. He might not get the joke and fall into a deep state of despair. 

    Nah, players get cut or traded off when they stink at their job. Awful FO staff get to bomb on a historic level in Cleveland with no fear of getting fired.

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  • stillmotionS stillmotion

    @tour2ma said:

    Kizer could have stepped up but instead did the worst thing a QB can do. He drifted back and away from the pressure ensuring the speed rushing DE nails him.

    Would you say Kizer is growing and getting better, or getting worse as the season goes forward?

    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on
    #68

    @stillmotion said:

    Would you say Kizer is growing and getting better, or getting worse as the season goes forward?

    More like is stuck...stuck around a better level than he showed Games 1 thru 6 maybe, but with still a good ways to go.

    Now this was a very good D today, maybe the best we've seen all year, but still...

    One thing has been a constant all season is that his improved ball security in the pocket vanishes the second he begins to run. That is... his left hand comes off the ball with step one. Wasn't a factor in every fumble today, a couple were in the act of throwing, but a couple were due to this. The one that was scooped and should have been a score for the Jags was one example and there was a second that he ended up falling on and recovering himself.

    Touch is another stuck area. While today he didn't really fastball anyone I can think of and even took a little off his TD to Duke (pass of the day), other "touch passes" were just inaccurate... and it seems the softer he throws it the less accurate it is. May be as simple as him aiming his off-speed stuff... something reps can cure. May be off-speed is just not natural to him... again reps can help here.

    Pocket presence today was definitely not what we saw vs. the Lions... or Vikes. But again, may have been that D.

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  • LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares

    @wargograw said:

    Good thing I'm just quoting you. Let's draft all new linemen this year. They're 0-9.

    You said to “Fire Drango”. He might not get the joke and fall into a deep state of despair. 

    Nah, players get cut or traded off when they stink at their job. Awful FO staff get to bomb on a historic level in Cleveland with no fear of getting fired.

    W wargograw wrote on
    #69

    @logicisforsquares said:

    You said to “Fire Drango”. He might not get the joke and fall into a deep state of despair. 

    Nah, players get cut or traded off when they stink at their job. Awful FO staff get to bomb on a historic level in Cleveland with no fear of getting fired.

    He'll get the joke. He's not as stupid as you. 

    Except that they're not bombing at all. If you could look past the record, you'd see that. Just like if you can watch Drango's play and judge him rather than just saying "0-10!!!"

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