The 'who have you watched lately?' thread.
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Darnold=Matt Leinert.
Not at all. Different coach, different skill set, different everything (except school).
Coming from the guy that "doesn't watch any tape..."
Not at all. Different coach, different skill set, different everything (except school).
Coming from the guy that "doesn't watch any tape..."
Exactly- Carson Palmer came out of USC. He seemed to do ok playing in cold weather. Not every schools qB are going to hit it big in the pros. I have a severe anti-Notre Dame bias, but then the produced the Joes Theismann and Montana- as well as Jimmy Clausen Pickle.
Finally watched Lamar Jackson a few days ago in a different game, but he has a really nice arm, and if there's nothing open he can get first downs with his legs all day long... Until someone puts him on IR.
But there's also the possibility he can adapt his game to the NFL like Vick or Watson. I think they all know they can't play the same style in nfl as they did in college
Yikes, Walter Football has us taking Jackson with the #1 overall. I think it was it wasn't until recently he got his completion % up to 60. FWIW Mayfield is a 68% career passer in college. PS I do like Walter slotting us McGlinchey with our second pick- Joe can't play forever...
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That's the knock on Rosen. His teammates supposedly hate him. But you don't put up numbers like him and lead comebacks like he's had without being awesome
Rosen is good, but even people I know who go to UCLA don't like him much. To me he's been a spoiled kid most of his life and hasn't faced adversity. He grew up in SoCal so wouldn't be able to play worth a Sheet in the snow. I'd rather have a midwest QB.
Rosen is good, but even people I know who go to UCLA don't like him much. To me he's been a spoiled kid most of his life and hasn't faced adversity. He grew up in SoCal so wouldn't be able to play worth a Sheet in the snow. I'd rather have a midwest QB.
While he went to Michigan, Tom Brady was born and raised in California. Terry Bradshaw battled the weather of Pittsburgh while leading them to four Super Bowl titles, after playing college ball in Louisiana. Bart Starr won five titles in Green Bay, after playing for Alabama. Brett Favre was from Mississippi.
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... his slender build doesn't appear to help matters either.
6'3 + 213 = "slender"?
Not getting that vibe... Definitely nothing like Teddy B. coming out.
Question is... is Lamar running smart this season? I've seen very little of him this season. He was prone to getting a lil reckless last year.
6'3 + 213 = "slender"?
Not getting that vibe... Definitely nothing like Teddy B. coming out.
Question is... is Lamar running smart this season? I've seen very little of him this season. He was prone to getting a lil reckless last year.
The numbers don't suggest too skinny but the eyeball test does...if that makes sense. I'm not saying the man is puny or anything, but it's a common concern regarding Jackson (the frame or his build).
He's definitely running somewhat smarter this season, from what I've seen. He still takes some hits and lowers the shoulder, but it doesn't appear to be QUITE as reckless. The main thing is he's passing better. Still has a long way to go, but seeing improvement every year is the idea.
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BOOM! On the rollout and its a perfect throw.
Please, tell me about Mayfield again.
Mayfield's stats are better all around than Benkert, but yes, he does also play on a much better team.
http://www.espn.com/college-football/player/stats/_/id/550373/baker-mayfield
http://www.espn.com/college-football/player/_/id/545645/kurt-benkert
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To know who had better stats than that? Graham Harrel
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Ok-self destruction in Miami so on to PSU's Barkley the dog against a crappy Neb. team.
4pm eastern on FS1.
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Barkley starts with a long TD.
Barkley starts with a long TD.
The gane is on already?
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I want to watch the (probably) top 2 guys tonight but of the rest Ive been watching... 1. Jackson, 2. Rudolph, 3. Mayfield
Ive never even watched Allen live so hes not on my list.
Of the above 3, Jackson is the only one even close to a 1st rounder.
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To know who had better stats than that? Graham Harrel
Totally irrelevant to this discussion. No team would take Benkert over Mayfield. Not one.
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Barkley 3rd Q 4:39 to go 17 Carries 158 yds. and 3 TDs
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6'3 + 213 = "slender"?
Not getting that vibe... Definitely nothing like Teddy B. coming out.
Question is... is Lamar running smart this season? I've seen very little of him this season. He was prone to getting a lil reckless last year.
The numbers don't suggest too skinny but the eyeball test does...if that makes sense. I'm not saying the man is puny or anything, but it's a common concern regarding Jackson (the frame or his build).
He's definitely running somewhat smarter this season, from what I've seen. He still takes some hits and lowers the shoulder, but it doesn't appear to be QUITE as reckless. The main thing is he's passing better. Still has a long way to go, but seeing improvement every year is the idea.
The numbers don't suggest too skinny but the eyeball test does...if that makes sense. I'm not saying the man is puny or anything, but it's a common concern regarding Jackson (the frame or his build).
Live eyeballs from bottom of stands,at rail 2 hours before kick off.(35 yards away? maybe),I posted somewhere that night,He's larger live than on TV,surprised me also).Lamar is thick above waist put after thigh pads he's scary thin below knee caps..EDIT --..My friends seats at NC State our mid level 41 yard line. The 2nd & 3rd Quarter I went straight to top of Carter Finley to see a all 22 live binoculars..Lamar would many times find single coverage receivers late, than relied on his feet or check down..My worry is, In a passing league next level? his only confidence was in his feet/RB's or 1 WR (Fitzpatrick?)..Still watching Lamar since NC State game.. He's a QB & we need 3 of them..
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... his slender build doesn't appear to help matters either.
6'3 + 213 = "slender"?
Not getting that vibe... Definitely nothing like Teddy B. coming out.
Question is... is Lamar running smart this season? I've seen very little of him this season. He was prone to getting a lil reckless last year.
6'3 + 213 = "slender"?
Not getting that vibe... Definitely nothing like Teddy B. coming out.
Question is... is Lamar running smart this season? I've seen very little of him this season. He was prone to getting a lil reckless last year.
Nope- in the words of Ghoolie- Black Tarkenton.
I've been talking with Tour since he first clued me in on him, but if you're a fan of Mayfield, Rosen, Allen or Darnold - I'd suggest tuning into the UVA-Miami game now and watch Kurt.
If Benkurt was on a couple of those teams, or really any team with some more talent around him, he would be getting easy 1st round hype right now. The kid has the goods to be next level and I encourage you to take a long look at him. I'll paraphrase my thoughts between Tour and I in my summary of him later.
We'll see if he goes up draft boards...
Just opened "Camp Benkert"...
All are welcome.
We aren't shopping the bargain bin this year Tour. Suck for Sam, relapse for Rosen, play like bums for Baker. I'm all in on drafting 2 QBs this year. I saw more good QB play today than I have all year out of Kizer.
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6'3 + 213 = "slender"?
Not getting that vibe... Definitely nothing like Teddy B. coming out.
Question is... is Lamar running smart this season? I've seen very little of him this season. He was prone to getting a lil reckless last year.
Nope- in the words of Ghoolie- Black Tarkenton.
I've been talking with Tour since he first clued me in on him, but if you're a fan of Mayfield, Rosen, Allen or Darnold - I'd suggest tuning into the UVA-Miami game now and watch Kurt.
If Benkurt was on a couple of those teams, or really any team with some more talent around him, he would be getting easy 1st round hype right now. The kid has the goods to be next level and I encourage you to take a long look at him. I'll paraphrase my thoughts between Tour and I in my summary of him later.
We'll see if he goes up draft boards...
Just opened "Camp Benkert"...
All are welcome.
We aren't shopping the bargain bin this year Tour. Suck for Sam, relapse for Rosen, play like bums for Baker. I'm all in on drafting 2 QBs this year. I saw more good QB play today than I have all year out of Kizer.
Suck for Sam, relapse for Rosen, play like bums for Baker. I'm all in on drafting 2 QBs this year. I saw more good QB play today than I have all year out of Kizer.
Dilly
Dilly!! We need more Whine
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Baker Mayfield is now off the list. He grabbed his nut-sack after his last touchdown throw in a show of serious disrespect, and it was caught on tape. No way in hell we take him. I know he quickly apologized, but we just can't have our QB grabbing his jewels and talking smack to the opposition or to fans.
Now, on the flip side, do yourself a favor and watch the highlights of Lamar Jackson. He honestly doesn't look real. He looks like a character you create in Playstation College Football where you get a finite amount of attribute points, but with Lamar, the amount of available attribute points was doubled on accident. The truly unfair thing about Jackson is his acceleration. There are several fast qb's in the league, but there is NOBODY who possesses the surreal acceleration of Jackson. It's literally one step to full speed, and that full speed is stupid fast.
But do more than just look at the running plays, and be sure to carefully watch some of his throws. He had one deep seam toss that had a window of about a foot, and Jackson squeezed it in there....in stride....for a long touchdown. He had several throws that were big league, and if he continues doing that, there might not be any way to pass on the overwhelmingly gifted Jackson.
I'm serious, this guy has so many physical gifts, that he has me wondering if he's worth drafting and completely changing the offense to suit him. He'd be an absolute nightmare to defend on 3rd and short, or near the goal line, and he actually throws a gorgeous fade route...something that the bozos on our team obviously struggle with. Yes he's far from a finished product, but the talent is there, and everything I read says the drive is there too. I have no clue about Wonderlic stuff, off the field behavior, or other possible skeletons that MIGHT exist, but we'll surely get all that as the draft approaches in a few months.
We still need to add WRs and we know that. If we somehow knew Josh Gordon was going to be here, I think we could sleep better, but we're far too smart for that nonsense. We also know we can't depend on Corey Coleman, and we desperately need to add some serious WR talent to help whoever is taking snaps. One thing I love about Jackson is his ability to throw deep seam passes with accuracy and consistency, and I believe he'd be perfect for a developing Njoku. Add in the fact he throws a beautiful fade, and our red zone offense could get an instant jolt. Of course Lamar would have to beat out Kizer, but that's a win-win to me. If Kizer wins the job, that means he's playing WELL. Which is what everyone wants in the first place.
However, let's not get ahead of ourselves. First thing is to draft Jackson. Then we figure out the rest. I've always liked the guy but wondered if he could transition to the pros. Now I'm to the point where I believe his talent is simply too much to pass on, and his abilities are so completely vast and overwhelming, that NFL coaches would almost HAVE to to make it work with him.
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Baker Mayfield is now off the list. He grabbed his nut-sack after his last touchdown throw in a show of serious disrespect, and it was caught on tape. No way in hell we take him. I know he quickly apologized, but we just can't have our QB grabbing his jewels and talking smack to the opposition or to fans.
Now, on the flip side, do yourself a favor and watch the highlights of Lamar Jackson. He honestly doesn't look real. He looks like a character you create in Playstation College Football where you get a finite amount of attribute points, but with Lamar, the amount of available attribute points was doubled on accident. The truly unfair thing about Jackson is his acceleration. There are several fast qb's in the league, but there is NOBODY who possesses the surreal acceleration of Jackson. It's literally one step to full speed, and that full speed is stupid fast.
But do more than just look at the running plays, and be sure to carefully watch some of his throws. He had one deep seam toss that had a window of about a foot, and Jackson squeezed it in there....in stride....for a long touchdown. He had several throws that were big league, and if he continues doing that, there might not be any way to pass on the overwhelmingly gifted Jackson.
I'm serious, this guy has so many physical gifts, that he has me wondering if he's worth drafting and completely changing the offense to suit him. He'd be an absolute nightmare to defend on 3rd and short, or near the goal line, and he actually throws a gorgeous fade route...something that the bozos on our team obviously struggle with. Yes he's far from a finished product, but the talent is there, and everything I read says the drive is there too. I have no clue about Wonderlic stuff, off the field behavior, or other possible skeletons that MIGHT exist, but we'll surely get all that as the draft approaches in a few months.
We still need to add WRs and we know that. If we somehow knew Josh Gordon was going to be here, I think we could sleep better, but we're far too smart for that nonsense. We also know we can't depend on Corey Coleman, and we desperately need to add some serious WR talent to help whoever is taking snaps. One thing I love about Jackson is his ability to throw deep seam passes with accuracy and consistency, and I believe he'd be perfect for a developing Njoku. Add in the fact he throws a beautiful fade, and our red zone offense could get an instant jolt. Of course Lamar would have to beat out Kizer, but that's a win-win to me. If Kizer wins the job, that means he's playing WELL. Which is what everyone wants in the first place.
However, let's not get ahead of ourselves. First thing is to draft Jackson. Then we figure out the rest. I've always liked the guy but wondered if he could transition to the pros. Now I'm to the point where I believe his talent is simply too much to pass on, and his abilities are so completely vast and overwhelming, that NFL coaches would almost HAVE to to make it work with him.
Baker Mayfield is now off the list. He grabbed his nut-sack after his last touchdown throw in a show of serious disrespect, and it was caught on tape. No way in hell we take him. I know he quickly apologized, but we just can't have our QB grabbing his jewels and talking smack to the opposition or to fans.
Agree... not because of the specific action, but because it shows a lack of self-control... the immaturity Some here will love "his fire", his "attytude", but I can't go there.
As for his "apology"... 'bout as genuine as that $400mm Leonardo painting... as his one for the "flag plant". His body language screamed POW video. Said a "coach pointed out his action was wrong" or something to that effect. That he was just "caught up in the emotion". And in the end all he did was prove the opponents were right to not shake hands at the coin flip. (Anyone know what prompted their refusal? BB material Baker said?)
But some team will want him to be their "crotch of the franchise"...
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