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  • @boo-fagley said:

    Brett Farve was a screw up in Atlanta.

    He ate chicken wings and swilled down beer like there was no tomorrow.

    And he sent a finger pic to a reporter. But when he was on the Packers, he worked as hard as any QB in the NFL.

  • Doubtful....

  • @dutch-oven said:

    And to the surprise of no one, this debate devolves into this....

    What!.. You finally ran out of stupid things to say"... Not surprised...

    @nickers said:

    What!.. You finally ran out of stupid things to say"... Not surprised...

    I should have stopped when someone was dumb enough to think Brian Sipe has something, ANYTHING, to do with the NFL in 2017.

  • @nickers said:

    What!.. You finally ran out of stupid things to say"... Not surprised...

    I should have stopped when someone was dumb enough to think Brian Sipe has something, ANYTHING, to do with the NFL in 2017.

    @dutch-oven said:

    I should have stopped when someone was dumb enough to think Brian Sipe has something, ANYTHING, to do with the NFL in 2017.

    I never said he had anything to do with 2017.. I guess I was wrong. You do have more stupid $hit to say...

  • @dutch-oven said:

    I should have stopped when someone was dumb enough to think Brian Sipe has something, ANYTHING, to do with the NFL in 2017.

    I never said he had anything to do with 2017.. I guess I was wrong. You do have more stupid $hit to say...

    @nickers said:

    I never said he had anything to do with 2017.. I guess I was wrong. You do have more stupid $hit to say...

    You literally said that a weak-armed Kevin Hogan could succeed in poor weather on the shores of Lake Erie in 2017 because Brian Sipe had done so nearly 40 years ago.

    This is getting sad, nickers.

  • Yeah baby, back to Hogan!

  • Yeah baby, back to Hogan!

    @wargograw said:

    Yeah baby, back to Hogan!

    Not happening unless Kizer gets hurt.

  • @mark-o said:

    I think you're right to a certain extent about winning in college but Peyton Manning had the same knock on him coming out of college, how did that turn out for everyone?   Especially in today's college game it's hard to blame a QB for a team that loses when theres a ton of points scored. 

    Peyton manning had flawless work ethic. Flawless. I've talked to many people that watch every UCLA game and live in Southern California, and not many of them at all think Rosen is a pro-ready QB. He does have an awesome arm, but most think it's his personality and work ethic that will ultimately hurt him.

    At least with Baker he backs it up by winning. People are loving hating him now, but the Kansas dudes didn't even shake his hand. 

    Article on Rosen

    http://thebiglead.com/2017/05/04/nfl-scout-and-executive-on-josh-rosen-tons-of-issues-and-a-mess-off-the-field/

    Not to say I can predict what will happen, but Rosen comes from rich parents in southern california, and mayfield comes from the midwest. I doubt Rosen, will be able to play competitively in the cold as well as a midwest QB.

    @stillmotion said:

    Peyton manning had flawless work ethic. Flawless. I've talked to many people that watch every UCLA game and live in Southern California, and not many of them at all think Rosen is a pro-ready QB. He does have an awesome arm, but most think it's his personality and work ethic that will ultimately hurt him.

    At least with Baker he backs it up by winning. People are loving hating him now, but the Kansas dudes didn't even shake his hand. 

    Article on Rosen

    http://thebiglead.com/2017/05/04/nfl-scout-and-executive-on-josh-rosen-tons-of-issues-and-a-mess-off-the-field/

    Not to say I can predict what will happen, but Rosen comes from rich parents in southern california, and mayfield comes from the midwest. I doubt Rosen, will be able to play competitively in the cold as well as a midwest QB.

    Yes, it gets fahking frigid in those domes.

  • Kizer played well. Coleman dropped a key pas while we were gaining Mo. Kessler and Hogan suck Niekro Diick. 6 games, lots of football to play. 

  • Just keep telling me Deshone Kizer is going to improve. Been preaching it from the day we drafted him. He's the same Nortre Dame BUM! I saw in college. He sucks, and sucks bad. I'd bet his ESPN total QBR had to be approaching zero after a couple interceptions and strip sacks. Even the Browns postgame guys said flat out "he's just not good enough". Welcome to the club guys- just a little slow on the uptake. 

    You want to win a game this year? I'm on to PO train- bench Kizer and start Hogan- he's our best chance if you don't want to go down with the Lions at 0-16. 

    @hoorta said:

    You want to win a game this year? I'm on to PO train- bench Kizer and start Hogan- he's our best chance if you don't want to go down with the Lions at 0-16. 

    0-16 is exactly what we want 

    It sucks. But that’s the best thing for the Browns. 

  • @hoorta said:

    You want to win a game this year? I'm on to PO train- bench Kizer and start Hogan- he's our best chance if you don't want to go down with the Lions at 0-16. 

    0-16 is exactly what we want 

    It sucks. But that’s the best thing for the Browns. 

    @londonbrown said:

    0-16 is exactly what we want 

    It sucks. But that’s the best thing for the Browns. 

    Only if its a QB that is drafted #1 overall.  Whoever that QB turns out to be.   Otherwise, the team needs to win some games.

  • @londonbrown said:

    0-16 is exactly what we want 

    It sucks. But that’s the best thing for the Browns. 

    Only if its a QB that is drafted #1 overall.  Whoever that QB turns out to be.   Otherwise, the team needs to win some games.

    @mark-o said:

    Only if its a QB that is drafted #1 overall.  Whoever that QB turns out to be.   Otherwise, the team needs to win some games.

    I hope they don’t reach for a QB just because they think their job depends on it. That never works out. 

  • @mark-o said:

    Only if its a QB that is drafted #1 overall.  Whoever that QB turns out to be.   Otherwise, the team needs to win some games.

    I hope they don’t reach for a QB just because they think their job depends on it. That never works out. 

    @londonbrown said:

    I hope they don’t reach for a QB just because they think their job depends on it. That never works out. 

    True enough....but no matter what Kizer does the rest of the way, this team needs a QB.  None of them are any good.   One of these dudes coming out of college has to be good enough to be the guy.   Unless it's Cousins or KC might be willing to part with Alex Smith.

  • They’ll draft a QB high even if they sign a Cousins imo. 

  • They’ll draft a QB high even if they sign a Cousins imo. 

    @londonbrown said:

    They’ll draft a QB high even if they sign a Cousins imo. 

    I would think a FA would keep you from drafting a QB in the first 2 rounds.  

  • @londonbrown said:

    They’ll draft a QB high even if they sign a Cousins imo. 

    I would think a FA would keep you from drafting a QB in the first 2 rounds.  

    @mark-o said:

    I would think a FA would keep you from drafting a QB in the first 2 rounds.  

    It’s never stopped the Patriots 

  • @mark-o said:

    I would think a FA would keep you from drafting a QB in the first 2 rounds.  

    It’s never stopped the Patriots 

    @londonbrown said:

    It’s never stopped the Patriots 

    They have a few less holes than we do and they've only picked 1 as far as I can remember since they've had Brady.

  • They’ll draft a QB high even if they sign a Cousins imo. 

    @londonbrown said:

    They’ll draft a QB high even if they sign a Cousins imo. 

    I could end up being wrong, but I just can't see Cousins having any interest in joining the Browns.

    Sure, money talks, but I'm sure some other team that won more than one game in the last two seasons will gladly pony up big money for him too.

  • @londonbrown said:

    They’ll draft a QB high even if they sign a Cousins imo. 

    I could end up being wrong, but I just can't see Cousins having any interest in joining the Browns.

    Sure, money talks, but I'm sure some other team that won more than one game in the last two seasons will gladly pony up big money for him too.

    @dutch-oven said:

    I could end up being wrong, but I just can't see Cousins having any interest in joining the Browns.

    Sure, money talks, but I'm sure some other team that won more than one game in the last two seasons will gladly pony up big money for him too.

    You'd think.   Jacksonville has to also be a team that needs a guy.  

  • @dutch-oven said:

    I could end up being wrong, but I just can't see Cousins having any interest in joining the Browns.

    Sure, money talks, but I'm sure some other team that won more than one game in the last two seasons will gladly pony up big money for him too.

    You'd think.   Jacksonville has to also be a team that needs a guy.  

    @mark-o said:

    You'd think.   Jacksonville has to also be a team that needs a guy.  

    Not saying this is a team that will be making a run at Cousins, but you have to wonder what the Steelers are thinking regarding Ben and their future at the QB position.