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  • @tour2ma said:

    More like is stuck...stuck around a better level than he showed Games 1 thru 6 maybe, but with still a good ways to go.

    Now this was a very good D today, maybe the best we've seen all year, but still...

    One thing has been a constant all season is that his improved ball security in the pocket vanishes the second he begins to run. That is... his left hand comes off the ball with step one. Wasn't a factor in every fumble today, a couple were in the act of throwing, but a couple were due to this. The one that was scooped and should have been a score for the Jags was one example and there was a second that he ended up falling on and recovering himself.

    Touch is another stuck area. While today he didn't really fastball anyone I can think of and even took a little off his TD to Duke (pass of the day), other "touch passes" were just inaccurate... and it seems the softer he throws it the less accurate it is. May be as simple as him aiming his off-speed stuff... something reps can cure. May be off-speed is just not natural to him... again reps can help here.

    Pocket presence today was definitely not what we saw vs. the Lions... or Vikes. But again, may have been that D.

    I enjoyed reading that analysis. 

    It's a pitty that I think he improved during the season in pocket and avoiding sacks (first 2-3 games he was awful on that) and today he stepped back on that area. There was a great D, but his timing should have been faster, although you can think that could lead to worse reads and less accurate throws. 

    I haven't checked it during the game, but how many times did he have max protection? I mean, have we used tight ends to block? Tackles were getting owned and as you said not just Drango.

    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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    @nero said:

    I enjoyed reading that analysis. 

    It's a pitty that I think he improved during the season in pocket and avoiding sacks (first 2-3 games he was awful on that) and today he stepped back on that area. There was a great D, but his timing should have been faster, although you can think that could lead to worse reads and less accurate throws. 

    I haven't checked it during the game, but how many times did he have max protection? I mean, have we used tight ends to block? Tackles were getting owned and as you said not just Drango.

    Thanks... release time/ decision making is one of his areas of improvement I've seen. Today both Zeitler and Drango were beaten so quickly a couple times each that Kizer had no shot at getting the ball out.

    Max protect? No idea... and doubt I'll do the OL grading/ tape review this week what with Thanksgiving and all here. I've had trouble getting into "study mode" even in full weeks this season.

    @flyingfooldoug said:

    It's a beautiful morning here. No sun screen or bug repellent needed.

    Just spent two weeks in London/France. I think I saw three files and no skeeters... oh and one big butt spider. Same in prior trip to German, Austria, Italy... hell, no one even has screens on their windows. Although one big-butt bumble bee cam in an open skylight transom in Tuscanny.

    What's up with the no bugs in Europe?

  • @mark-o said:

    Its not that cold dude...it was like 65...   🙂

    My wife freezes at 60. I'm balmy at 30. It's all relative.

    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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    @flyingfooldoug said:

    My wife freezes at 60. I'm balmy at 30. It's all relative.

    You married a relative?

    And our solution to not being able to get cool outside in the heat? Staying inside... plus pools and lemonade... or a Shandy...

  • @nero said:

    I enjoyed reading that analysis. 

    It's a pitty that I think he improved during the season in pocket and avoiding sacks (first 2-3 games he was awful on that) and today he stepped back on that area. There was a great D, but his timing should have been faster, although you can think that could lead to worse reads and less accurate throws. 

    I haven't checked it during the game, but how many times did he have max protection? I mean, have we used tight ends to block? Tackles were getting owned and as you said not just Drango.

    Thanks... release time/ decision making is one of his areas of improvement I've seen. Today both Zeitler and Drango were beaten so quickly a couple times each that Kizer had no shot at getting the ball out.

    Max protect? No idea... and doubt I'll do the OL grading/ tape review this week what with Thanksgiving and all here. I've had trouble getting into "study mode" even in full weeks this season.

    @flyingfooldoug said:

    It's a beautiful morning here. No sun screen or bug repellent needed.

    Just spent two weeks in London/France. I think I saw three files and no skeeters... oh and one big butt spider. Same in prior trip to German, Austria, Italy... hell, no one even has screens on their windows. Although one big-butt bumble bee cam in an open skylight transom in Tuscanny.

    What's up with the no bugs in Europe?

    flyingfooldougF flyingfooldoug wrote on last edited by
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    @tour2ma said:

    Thanks... release time/ decision making is one of his areas of improvement I've seen. Today both Zeitler and Drango were beaten so quickly a couple times each that Kizer had no shot at getting the ball out.

    Max protect? No idea... and doubt I'll do the OL grading/ tape review this week what with Thanksgiving and all here. I've had trouble getting into "study mode" even in full weeks this season.

    Just spent two weeks in London/France. I think I saw three files and no skeeters... oh and one big butt spider. Same in prior trip to German, Austria, Italy... hell, no one even has screens on their windows. Although one big-butt bumble bee cam in an open skylight transom in Tuscanny.

    What's up with the no bugs in Europe?

    WWII? Then again WWI used a lot of gas. 

  • @flyingfooldoug said:

    My wife freezes at 60. I'm balmy at 30. It's all relative.

    You married a relative?

    And our solution to not being able to get cool outside in the heat? Staying inside... plus pools and lemonade... or a Shandy...

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by The Gipper
    #88

    @tour2ma said:

    You married a relative?

    And our solution to not being able to get cool outside in the heat? Staying inside... plus pools and lemonade... or a Shandy...

    I trace my lineage all the way back to Adam and Eve.   (its true)....so everyone is a relative of mine. 

    800-165_7_LRG.jpg

  • @tour2ma said:

    You married a relative?

    And our solution to not being able to get cool outside in the heat? Staying inside... plus pools and lemonade... or a Shandy...

    I trace my lineage all the way back to Adam and Eve.   (its true)....so everyone is a relative of mine. 

    800-165_7_LRG.jpg

    T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by TexasAg1969
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    @the-gipper said:

    I trace my lineage all the way back to Adam and Eve.   (its true)....so everyone is a relative of mine. 

    800-165_7_LRG.jpg

    Obviously you missed the fine print on the bottom line. It says "Bert & Ernie"-not that there's anything wrong with that.😁

  • @the-gipper said:

    I trace my lineage all the way back to Adam and Eve.   (its true)....so everyone is a relative of mine. 

    800-165_7_LRG.jpg

    Obviously you missed the fine print on the bottom line. It says "Bert & Ernie"-not that there's anything wrong with that.😁

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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    @texasag1969 said:

    Obviously you missed the fine print on the bottom line. It says "Bert & Earnie"-not that there's anything wrong with that.😁

    I don't see them there:

    Adam

    Seth 

    Cainan

    Mahaleleel

    Jared

    Enoch

    Mathusalem

    Lamech

    Naei

    Japhett

    Magog

    Baath

    Fenius Farsaidh

    Niul

    Gaedal Glas

    Esru

    Sru

    Eber Scot

    Beogamhan

    Eogamhan

    Tath

    Adnoin

    Lamh-finn

    Eber Glun-Finn

    Adhamhon

    Febric

    Ninnall

    Nuadha

    Allod

    Arcadh

    Degath

    Bratha

    Breogan

    Bili

    Miledh

    Erimhon

    Irial

    Ethrial

    Follanham

    Tighernmas

    Enmoth

    Smirgoll  (maybe I will stop here....were it seems to come close to a Middle Earth lineage....and too close to being related to Smeagol.

    But also in there are the likes of Finn McCool, LaBraid Loingsech and Brian Boru

  • @wargograw said:

    He'll get the joke. He's not as stupid as you. 

    Except that they're not bombing at all. If you could look past the record, you'd see that. Just like if you can watch Drango's play and judge him rather than just saying "0-10!!!"

    The joke about Drango’s feelings is in reference to your trying to hen peck other grown men because they might hurt a professional athlete’s feelings, weak spine. Justin Gilbert is still waiting for you to posi post him into an average talent.

    It isn’t just the record. They have Sheet the bed during the draft by pouring lots of picks into WR to no avail. They passed on several QBs, most notably Wentz, when they didn’t have to move at all to draft them. Hell, Sashi and Depodesta were just at a game scouting Rosen and Darnold when clearly they can’t ID QB talent. Neither one is a scout.

    They may have something with Garrett if he doesn’t end up being perpetually injured but he was the consensus number 1. Even this FO could not screw that pick up.

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    @logicisforsquares said:

    The joke about Drango’s feelings is in reference to your trying to hen peck other grown men because they might hurt a professional athlete’s feelings, weak spine. Justin Gilbert is still waiting for you to posi post him into an average talent.

    It isn’t just the record. They have Sheet the bed during the draft by pouring lots of picks into WR to no avail. They passed on several QBs, most notably Wentz, when they didn’t have to move at all to draft them. Hell, Sashi and Depodesta were just at a game scouting Rosen and Darnold when clearly they can’t ID QB talent. Neither one is a scout.

    They may have something with Garrett if he doesn’t end up being perpetually injured but he was the consensus number 1. Even this FO could not screw that pick up.

    Yeah I got the joke.

    Get over it with the receivers. Coleman is going to end up at worst a WR2 and I think we can find 3-level performance from Louis next year. No exactly the worst thing ever. Regardless, you're talking about scrapping an entire FO because they missed out on 4 picks, three of which were 4th round and later. Absurd. Wentz, Goff, and everyone else would suck as bad as Kizer had we drafted them, so I'm glad we instead got Coleman, Coleman, and other ballers. 

    @texasag1969 said:

    Yeah, I think mythology is all wrong. Hell is gonna be close to absolute zero and heaven will be naked women on a Caribbean beach with Coronas on ice. I think I'm getting closer than you. BTW off to Hawaii in 2 weeks. LOL!😆

    All of Heaven will sing hallelujah while the smoke of the whore's torment goes up forever and ever. Time to get right folks.

  • @logicisforsquares said:

    The joke about Drango’s feelings is in reference to your trying to hen peck other grown men because they might hurt a professional athlete’s feelings, weak spine. Justin Gilbert is still waiting for you to posi post him into an average talent.

    It isn’t just the record. They have Sheet the bed during the draft by pouring lots of picks into WR to no avail. They passed on several QBs, most notably Wentz, when they didn’t have to move at all to draft them. Hell, Sashi and Depodesta were just at a game scouting Rosen and Darnold when clearly they can’t ID QB talent. Neither one is a scout.

    They may have something with Garrett if he doesn’t end up being perpetually injured but he was the consensus number 1. Even this FO could not screw that pick up.

    Yeah I got the joke.

    Get over it with the receivers. Coleman is going to end up at worst a WR2 and I think we can find 3-level performance from Louis next year. No exactly the worst thing ever. Regardless, you're talking about scrapping an entire FO because they missed out on 4 picks, three of which were 4th round and later. Absurd. Wentz, Goff, and everyone else would suck as bad as Kizer had we drafted them, so I'm glad we instead got Coleman, Coleman, and other ballers. 

    @texasag1969 said:

    Yeah, I think mythology is all wrong. Hell is gonna be close to absolute zero and heaven will be naked women on a Caribbean beach with Coronas on ice. I think I'm getting closer than you. BTW off to Hawaii in 2 weeks. LOL!😆

    All of Heaven will sing hallelujah while the smoke of the whore's torment goes up forever and ever. Time to get right folks.

    stillmotionS stillmotion wrote on last edited by
    #92

    @wargograw said:

    Wentz, Goff, and everyone else would suck as bad as Kizer had we drafted them, so I'm glad we instead got Coleman, Coleman, and other ballers. 

    Dude you're absolutely trolling at this point.

  • @texasag1969 said:

    Obviously you missed the fine print on the bottom line. It says "Bert & Earnie"-not that there's anything wrong with that.😁

    I don't see them there:

    Adam

    Seth 

    Cainan

    Mahaleleel

    Jared

    Enoch

    Mathusalem

    Lamech

    Naei

    Japhett

    Magog

    Baath

    Fenius Farsaidh

    Niul

    Gaedal Glas

    Esru

    Sru

    Eber Scot

    Beogamhan

    Eogamhan

    Tath

    Adnoin

    Lamh-finn

    Eber Glun-Finn

    Adhamhon

    Febric

    Ninnall

    Nuadha

    Allod

    Arcadh

    Degath

    Bratha

    Breogan

    Bili

    Miledh

    Erimhon

    Irial

    Ethrial

    Follanham

    Tighernmas

    Enmoth

    Smirgoll  (maybe I will stop here....were it seems to come close to a Middle Earth lineage....and too close to being related to Smeagol.

    But also in there are the likes of Finn McCool, LaBraid Loingsech and Brian Boru

    T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by
    #93

    @the-gipper said:

    I don't see them there:

    Adam

    Seth 

    Cainan

    Mahaleleel

    Jared

    Enoch

    Mathusalem

    Lamech

    Naei

    Japhett

    Magog

    Baath

    Fenius Farsaidh

    Niul

    Gaedal Glas

    Esru

    Sru

    Eber Scot

    Beogamhan

    Eogamhan

    Tath

    Adnoin

    Lamh-finn

    Eber Glun-Finn

    Adhamhon

    Febric

    Ninnall

    Nuadha

    Allod

    Arcadh

    Degath

    Bratha

    Breogan

    Bili

    Miledh

    Erimhon

    Irial

    Ethrial

    Follanham

    Tighernmas

    Enmoth

    Smirgoll  (maybe I will stop here....were it seems to come close to a Middle Earth lineage....and too close to being related to Smeagol.

    But also in there are the likes of Finn McCool, LaBraid Loingsech and Brian Boru

    Oh Bili and Ethrial-my bad.😛

  • @wargograw said:

    Wentz, Goff, and everyone else would suck as bad as Kizer had we drafted them, so I'm glad we instead got Coleman, Coleman, and other ballers. 

    Dude you're absolutely trolling at this point.

    LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
    #94

    @stillmotion said:

    Dude you're absolutely trolling at this point.

    Has to be. Wentz and Co. wouldn’t look as they do now but the team would know what they had. Sashi could then hire someone to tell him what an NFL receiver looks like.