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  • Well, thanks to the Cardinals, Houston has dropped to the #11 pick in round 1. 🙁

  • Man I want two top ten picks

  • Man I want two top ten picks

    @mld-woody said:

    Man I want two top ten picks

    Give it time, the Texans pick most likely will be soon again.

  • Texans' upcoming schelude:

    at Ravens

    at Titans

    vs 49ers

    at Jaguars

    vs Steelers

    at Colts

    Let's say they win vs 49ers and against the Colts. It would put them 6-10. 

    With the same record, last year Carolina picked at #8, 2 years ago Chicago at #11, 3 years ago Atlanta in #8...

    So it will be a close call. 

  • Texans' upcoming schelude:

    at Ravens

    at Titans

    vs 49ers

    at Jaguars

    vs Steelers

    at Colts

    Let's say they win vs 49ers and against the Colts. It would put them 6-10. 

    With the same record, last year Carolina picked at #8, 2 years ago Chicago at #11, 3 years ago Atlanta in #8...

    So it will be a close call. 

    @nero said:

    Texans' upcoming schelude:

    at Ravens

    at Titans

    vs 49ers

    at Jaguars

    vs Steelers

    at Colts

    Let's say they win vs 49ers and against the Colts. It would put them 6-10. 

    With the same record, last year Carolina picked at #8, 2 years ago Chicago at #11, 3 years ago Atlanta in #8...

    So it will be a close call. 

    I can see them beating at least 3 and maybe 4 of those teams.

  • Texans' upcoming schelude:

    at Ravens

    at Titans

    vs 49ers

    at Jaguars

    vs Steelers

    at Colts

    Let's say they win vs 49ers and against the Colts. It would put them 6-10. 

    With the same record, last year Carolina picked at #8, 2 years ago Chicago at #11, 3 years ago Atlanta in #8...

    So it will be a close call. 

    @nero said:

    Texans' upcoming schelude:

    at Ravens

    at Titans

    vs 49ers

    at Jaguars

    vs Steelers

    at Colts

    Let's say they win vs 49ers and against the Colts. It would put them 6-10. 

    With the same record, last year Carolina picked at #8, 2 years ago Chicago at #11, 3 years ago Atlanta in #8...

    So it will be a close call. 

    And so what if that pick is #11  vs.  #10....or #8...is that going to make our FO any more competent at choosing that player?

  • @nero said:

    Texans' upcoming schelude:

    at Ravens

    at Titans

    vs 49ers

    at Jaguars

    vs Steelers

    at Colts

    Let's say they win vs 49ers and against the Colts. It would put them 6-10. 

    With the same record, last year Carolina picked at #8, 2 years ago Chicago at #11, 3 years ago Atlanta in #8...

    So it will be a close call. 

    I can see them beating at least 3 and maybe 4 of those teams.

    @texasag1969 said:

    I can see them beating at least 3 and maybe 4 of those teams.

    2... maybe 3, here...

  • @nero said:

    Texans' upcoming schelude:

    at Ravens

    at Titans

    vs 49ers

    at Jaguars

    vs Steelers

    at Colts

    Let's say they win vs 49ers and against the Colts. It would put them 6-10. 

    With the same record, last year Carolina picked at #8, 2 years ago Chicago at #11, 3 years ago Atlanta in #8...

    So it will be a close call. 

    And so what if that pick is #11  vs.  #10....or #8...is that going to make our FO any more competent at choosing that player?

    @the-gipper said:

    And so what if that pick is #11  vs.  #10....or #8...is that going to make our FO any more competent at choosing that player?

    Bingo

  • Wherever we get Houston's pick we will be trading out of it......it's Sashi FFS

  • @nero said:

    Texans' upcoming schelude:

    at Ravens

    at Titans

    vs 49ers

    at Jaguars

    vs Steelers

    at Colts

    Let's say they win vs 49ers and against the Colts. It would put them 6-10. 

    With the same record, last year Carolina picked at #8, 2 years ago Chicago at #11, 3 years ago Atlanta in #8...

    So it will be a close call. 

    And so what if that pick is #11  vs.  #10....or #8...is that going to make our FO any more competent at choosing that player?

    @the-gipper said:

    And so what if that pick is #11  vs.  #10....or #8...is that going to make our FO any more competent at choosing that player?

    Obviously not since the two things are completely unrelated.

    @darren15 said:

    Wherever we get Houston's pick we will be trading out of it......it's Sashi FFS

    Quite possible... We'll have our QB... someone else will be squirming about getting theirs.

    Sounds like a great set up to me... even did it in my first FP-Mock when I traded down farther than I thought I would for less than I thought it'd take.

    It really depends upon how highly you value who is still on your board doesn't it? But I was really close to taking a legacy kid, Orlando Brown.

    Orlando Brown Jr. - Wikipedia

    Orlando Brown Jr. is a College American football Offensive linemen for the Oklahoma Sooners. Brown is the son of former NFL Offensive tackle Orlando Brown.

  • Houston loses......up to pick #7.   Yeayyyyyy.....

  • Great... another order of hindsight in a soft taco...

    @tour2ma said:

    Great... another order of hindsight in a soft taco...

    i swear to the gods of several religions that I'm tired of defending the notion on this forum that actual rebuilds take time even if every move is perfect..  the goal is to build an annual repeat contender, not a one-trick one-season lucky pony.

    Even Seattle hasn't won since they bet the farm on a one year gamble -- a particular interception wouldn't have occurred if Seattle continued to have the league's most expensive OL, like they did the one year they won the trophy.  And they've made the playoffs thanks to defense. Offense decent, defense great, and this year's D injuries are the end. 

    Cleveland is aiming higher than that, and that's a good thing.. it doesn't hurt that Seattle's second-round QB is franchise-worthy.

    Rosen at the 1, CB1 or WR1 with the Houston pick and/or the trade-down pick later in the first.

  • What was Seattle's one year gamble?

  • What was Seattle's one year gamble?

    @wargograw said:

    What was Seattle's one year gamble?

    Imma go with the NOLA trade for Graham...

  • What was Seattle's one year gamble?

    @wargograw said:

    What was Seattle's one year gamble?

    It would have been a two year gamble if freeking Pete Carroll had just given the ball to Lynch instead of trying to get cute.

    Still THE dumbest play call in the history of American sports likely.

  • @tour2ma said:

    Great... another order of hindsight in a soft taco...

    i swear to the gods of several religions that I'm tired of defending the notion on this forum that actual rebuilds take time even if every move is perfect..  the goal is to build an annual repeat contender, not a one-trick one-season lucky pony.

    Even Seattle hasn't won since they bet the farm on a one year gamble -- a particular interception wouldn't have occurred if Seattle continued to have the league's most expensive OL, like they did the one year they won the trophy.  And they've made the playoffs thanks to defense. Offense decent, defense great, and this year's D injuries are the end. 

    Cleveland is aiming higher than that, and that's a good thing.. it doesn't hurt that Seattle's second-round QB is franchise-worthy.

    Rosen at the 1, CB1 or WR1 with the Houston pick and/or the trade-down pick later in the first.

    @unsympathetic said:

    Cleveland is aiming higher than that, and that's a good thing..

    It's only a good thing if they have good aim...and aim at the right target(s).  We've seen that this Harvard Think Tank has not done a good job of evaluating collegiate QB talent.  They've given the Eagles and Texans THEIR franchise QB's while drafting Kessler in round 3 (where many figured him for the 5th round) and Kizer in round 2.  Now school is still out on Kizer.  He's got 5 more games to show if he's improving...and with Coleman back (TD dropper) and maybe Josh Gordon (he's been on the street for a loong time) Kizer may have a fighting chance through the air.  

    This FO really could use Kizer to wind up being good.....because they, the FO, don't look so good sitting with 1 win in 2 seasons.

  • I dont hate kizer, but i dont think he's gonna cut it. He's a multi year project. He maybe needed 2 more years at ND THEN conevout and sit on the bench for a year. We cant wait for that. If we had a solid, dependable qb on staff right now that kizer could sit behind for a couple years....ok maybe. We dont. We need to bring in a vet for 1 year contract while rosen or one of the others sits behind him.

  • @the-gipper said:

    And so what if that pick is #11  vs.  #10....or #8...is that going to make our FO any more competent at choosing that player?

    Obviously not since the two things are completely unrelated.

    @darren15 said:

    Wherever we get Houston's pick we will be trading out of it......it's Sashi FFS

    Quite possible... We'll have our QB... someone else will be squirming about getting theirs.

    Sounds like a great set up to me... even did it in my first FP-Mock when I traded down farther than I thought I would for less than I thought it'd take.

    It really depends upon how highly you value who is still on your board doesn't it? But I was really close to taking a legacy kid, Orlando Brown.

    Orlando Brown Jr. - Wikipedia

    Orlando Brown Jr. is a College American football Offensive linemen for the Oklahoma Sooners. Brown is the son of former NFL Offensive tackle Orlando Brown.

    @tour2ma said:

    Obviously not since the two things are completely unrelated.

    Quite possible... We'll have our QB... someone else will be squirming about getting theirs.

    Sounds like a great set up to me... even did it in my first FP-Mock when I traded down farther than I thought I would for less than I thought it'd take.

    It really depends upon how highly you value who is still on your board doesn't it? But I was really close to taking a legacy kid, Orlando Brown.

    Orlando Brown Jr. - Wikipedia

    Orlando Brown Jr. is a College American football Offensive linemen for the Oklahoma Sooners. Brown is the son of former NFL Offensive tackle Orlando Brown.

    Well, I had to take a look back at the other kiddo we missed on- Clay Matthews. Actually we did ok in the first round, trading with the Jets so they could take Sanchez. Then we eventually took Alex Mack. Where we really screwed up was in the second round (three strikes and you're out) taking Brian Slobiski, Mohammed Massivedrop, and David Racoon (Veikune). 

  • https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/texans-offseason-trades-currently-mean-giving-away-two-top-40-picks-in-2018-nfl-draft/      Send Deshawn Watson a Xmas Card yet S. Brown? we May have caught a lucky break here.      

  • https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/texans-offseason-trades-currently-mean-giving-away-two-top-40-picks-in-2018-nfl-draft/      Send Deshawn Watson a Xmas Card yet S. Brown? we May have caught a lucky break here.      

    @gumby73 said:

    https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/texans-offseason-trades-currently-mean-giving-away-two-top-40-picks-in-2018-nfl-draft/      Send Deshawn Watson a Xmas Card yet S. Brown? we May have caught a lucky break here.      

    The same people that cry about passing on Watson are the ones that complain about Coleman suffering two long injuries in his first two years. 

    You never know how well you draft has been until you've seen your draftees some years. If Watson keeps having injuries I guess nobody will complain we passed on him. 

    Wentz is another story, because we at least have seen him through 2 seasons and he has shown he's a hell of a player.