The Browns could land a damaged Andrew Luck for the right price.
-
Not trying to be a jerk here but just an honest question.
Who was better at Stanford- Andrew Luck or Kevin Hogan?
Only legit responses please, save the horseshit.
-
Not trying to be a jerk here but just an honest question.
Who was better at Stanford- Andrew Luck or Kevin Hogan?
Only legit responses please, save the horseshit.
Not trying to be a jerk here but just an honest question.
Who was better at Stanford- Andrew Luck or Kevin Hogan?
Only legit responses please, save the horseshit.
"Luck set a new Stanford record for career touchdown passes with 82, set a record of 10,387 career total offense yards, also became Stanford's all-time leader in winning percentage by a starting quarterback, with a winning percentage of .816 (31–7). Luck broke the Pac-12 records for career passing efficiency rating (162.8) and career completion percentage (67.0%). He also broke his own Pac-12 record for highest completion percentage in a season (71.3%). Luck was named Pac-12 Offensive Player of the Week for his performance against Washington State. He earned the 2011 Academic All-America of the Year award."
"Hogan ended his career with a 65.9% completion percentage,[26] 9,385 passing yards,[27] 75 passing touchdowns,[28] and a school-record 15 rushing touchdowns. His 1,249 rushing yards is the most by a Stanford quarterback, and includes four of the top seven seasons in that category. His combined total offense of 10,634 yards is also a school record, and his career passing efficiency of 154.6 is second only to Andrew Luck, and he holds three of Stanford's top 10 seasons in both categories. He earned second All-Pac12 honors."
The TD-INT ratio is abysmal in favour of Luck, and the QB rating too.
-
That's pretty close however you look at it, Hogan got them to and almost won three rose bowl championships. That's pretty good is what I'm saying.
He won a lot of games. He's a winner, his 67.8% completion percentage was 2nd in the Pac-10 and 6th in the country, and his average 8.2 yards per play led the conference and was third in the country. He accurate and makes big plays. In his chances he had to play he did really well to earn the start but honestly that start was a total trap. Hue probably started Hogan because he knew it was gonna be a blowout. Imagine what would have happened to Kizer that game.
Hogan got injured also and although Hogan said he was a little sore but could go on, Hue set him up to run the ball and take a shot in the injured ribs... he fumbled and hasn't played since. Hue said himself that he knows that wasn't Hogan's best performance and he would like to redeem himself but know that he's injured he can't. Then Hogan gets healthy and Hue settles on a still underperforming rookie in Kizer. It's frustrating because Kevin can win games and we just keep on losing.
-
@boo-fagley said:
Sorry Poe, but Hogan is not the guy either. Decent backup but nothing more.
I want the Browns to win and that is going to take a stud to sustain longevity in this NFL. My pal Ghoolie has stated countless time that youre not winning sheet without a QB. He knows of what he speaks.
I may have to ask the Boss to autocorrect Hogan to Schmogan.
-
Only QB's who've thrown for 40 TD's in one season: Manning, Brady, Marino, Brees, Rodgers, Warner, Stafford. And Andrew Luck. Who's only 28 and could be throwing to a superstar receiver. Gordon might stay clean with a chance to play with Luck. They could be unstoppable for the next 10 years.
-
@boo-fagley said:
Sorry Poe, but Hogan is not the guy either. Decent backup but nothing more.
I want the Browns to win and that is going to take a stud to sustain longevity in this NFL. My pal Ghoolie has stated countless time that youre not winning sheet without a QB. He knows of what he speaks.
I may have to ask the Boss to autocorrect Hogan to Schmogan.
-
Only QB's who've thrown for 40 TD's in one season: Manning, Brady, Marino, Brees, Rodgers, Warner, Stafford. And Andrew Luck. Who's only 28 and could be throwing to a superstar receiver. Gordon might stay clean with a chance to play with Luck. They could be unstoppable for the next 10 years.
Only QB's who've thrown for 40 TD's in one season: Manning, Brady, Marino, Brees, Rodgers, Warner, Stafford. And Andrew Luck. Who's only 28 and could be throwing to a superstar receiver. Gordon might stay clean with a chance to play with Luck. They could be unstoppable for the next 10 years.
What would you offer the Colts to get Luck, ST?
-
Only QB's who've thrown for 40 TD's in one season: Manning, Brady, Marino, Brees, Rodgers, Warner, Stafford. And Andrew Luck. Who's only 28 and could be throwing to a superstar receiver. Gordon might stay clean with a chance to play with Luck. They could be unstoppable for the next 10 years.
What would you offer the Colts to get Luck, ST?
What would you offer the Colts to get Luck, ST?
It's impossible to say right now. What's the medical prognosis? If he's scheduled to make a full recovery, then that's a big difference. Full recovery means we'd have to give up A LOT...even with the injury concerns. I'm struggling to think of a situation that resembles this, but the only one I can think of is when Drew Brees severely injured his shoulder and his career was literally up in the air. So much so that the Chargers drafted Eli Manning and obviously traded for Rivers. The difference is that Brees wasn't the first overall pick. I assume any deal for Luck would START with a first rounder, right? Obviously not the FIRST pick of ours (which is probably the first overall) but the Texans' pick.
But I think any talk about Luck is way too premature because his shoulder seems to be a mystery. And it's his THROWING shoulder. Scares me to death. Our franchise, the most beleaguered and tortured team ever, really has to think about making a deal for a guy with a mysterious, severe, shoulder injury.
-
Only QB's who've thrown for 40 TD's in one season: Manning, Brady, Marino, Brees, Rodgers, Warner, Stafford. And Andrew Luck. Who's only 28 and could be throwing to a superstar receiver. Gordon might stay clean with a chance to play with Luck. They could be unstoppable for the next 10 years.
What would you offer the Colts to get Luck, ST?
What would you offer the Colts to get Luck, ST?
First pick and Joe Thomas. No sure things in this draft and you trade one injury concern for another.
-
Luck is 28 right? So if he still has gas in the tank he's got probably another 4 years? And if the Colts are ready to shitecan him?
WSS
-
Luck is 28 right? So if he still has gas in the tank he's got probably another 4 years? And if the Colts are ready to shitecan him?
WSS
Luck is 28 right? So if he still has gas in the tank he's got probably another 4 years? And if the Colts are ready to shitecan him?
WSS
I believe the Colts are the last ones that are going to shitecan him. They might draft a QB this year, which they wouldn't have thought of last year, but their team is nothing without Luck.
They're not going to give up on him easily.
-
This topic should not exist. With all those draft picks the Browns have the opportunity to get Darnold or Rosen. Why even bother with Luck, whose future is uncertain to say the least?
-
Healthy Luck is just a notch below Aaron Rodgers. Rolling the dice on a top 5 QB in his prime makes as much sense as drafting an unproven QB. Again. And again. This board would lose it if Luck was under center Week 1 next year.
-
Healthy Luck is just a notch below Aaron Rodgers. Rolling the dice on a top 5 QB in his prime makes as much sense as drafting an unproven QB. Again. And again. This board would lose it if Luck was under center Week 1 next year.
Healthy Luck is just a notch below Aaron Rodgers. Rolling the dice on a top 5 QB in his prime makes as much sense as drafting an unproven QB. Again. And again. This board would lose it if Luck was under center Week 1 next year.
And a bad shoulder Luck makes the Colts...losers.
-
Healthy Luck is just a notch below Aaron Rodgers. Rolling the dice on a top 5 QB in his prime makes as much sense as drafting an unproven QB. Again. And again. This board would lose it if Luck was under center Week 1 next year.
And a bad shoulder Luck makes the Colts...losers.
And a bad shoulder Luck makes the Colts...losers.
Yes he was the difference maker....not quite a Peyton now but very adequate plus they had some better receivers and a better OL and defense, sound familiar? Think for a minute.
GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND! -
Healthy Luck is just a notch below Aaron Rodgers. Rolling the dice on a top 5 QB in his prime makes as much sense as drafting an unproven QB. Again. And again. This board would lose it if Luck was under center Week 1 next year.
Healthy Luck is just a notch below Aaron Rodgers. Rolling the dice on a top 5 QB in his prime makes as much sense as drafting an unproven QB. Again. And again. This board would lose it if Luck was under center Week 1 next year.
More likely under the scalpel of the orthopedic surgeons at University Hospital in week two next year.
WSS
Hello! It looks like you're interested in this conversation, but you don't have an account yet.
Getting fed up of having to scroll through the same posts each visit? When you register for an account, you'll always come back to exactly where you were before, and choose to be notified of new replies (either via email, or push notification). You'll also be able to save bookmarks and upvote posts to show your appreciation to other community members.
With your input, this post could be even better 💗
Register Login