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  • @tour2ma said:

    And maybe Randy Lerner would rebuy the Browns...

    An owner change at this point would be as disastrous as "installing a football guy" atop the FO.

    You tell em boy! Keep them damn football people away from the controls of the team.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    You tell em boy! Keep them damn football people away from the controls of the team.

    My name is Tour... and I'm here to help.

  • And before we all get too sad for Kessler or any of the BROWNS QBs they'll survive:

    Active Roster Cap Figures

    Current & future salary cap figures for players on the active roster. For more view the complete Browns Salary Cap Table

    QUARTERBACKS
    POS.
    2017
    2018
    2019
    2020
    2021
    DeShone Kizer QB $899,712 $1,124,640 $1,349,568 $1,574,496 UFA
    Cody Kessler QB $770,246 $924,295 $1,078,344 UFA -
    Kevin Hogan QB $540,000 ERFA -

    http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/

    @mjp28 said:

    And before we all get too sad for Kessler or any of the BROWNS QBs they'll survive:

    Active Roster Cap Figures

    Current & future salary cap figures for players on the active roster. For more view the complete Browns Salary Cap Table

    QUARTERBACKS
    POS.
    2017
    2018
    2019
    2020
    2021
    DeShone Kizer QB $899,712 $1,124,640 $1,349,568 $1,574,496 UFA
    Cody Kessler QB $770,246 $924,295 $1,078,344 UFA -
    Kevin Hogan QB $540,000 ERFA -

    Oh BTW want to play GM? Owner? Coach (if you're allowed)? It's not all stats on the field, unfortunately. 

    http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/

    Tour is here to help.

  • I like to play with numbers, our former rivals, remember everything is relative:

    PLAYER (59)
    POS.
    AGE
    EXP.
    CONTRACT TERMS
    AVG. SALARY
    GUARANTEED
    EXPIRES
    Ben Roethlisberger QB 35 14 4 yr$87,400,000 $21,850,000 $31,000,000 2020
    Antonio Brown WR 29 8 4 yr$68,000,000 $17,000,000 $19,000,000 2022
    Stephon Tuitt DE 24 4 5 yr$60,001,439 $12,000,288 $13,000,000 2023
    Cameron Heyward DE 28 7 6 yr$59,200,000 $9,866,667 $15,000,000 2021
    David DeCastro G 27 6 5 yr$50,000,000 $10,000,000 $16,000,000 2022
    Maurkice Pouncey C 28 8 5 yr$44,136,625 $8,827,325 $13,000,000 2020
    Marcus Gilbert RT 29 7 5 yr$30,815,000 $6,163,000 $7,650,000 2020
    Joe Haden CB 28 8 3 yr$27,000,000 $9,000,000 $5,750,000 2020 
    Mike Mitchell FS 30 9 5 yr$25,000,000 $5,000,000 $5,250,000 2019
    Alejandro Villanueva LT 29 3 4 yr$24,000,000 $6,000,000 $6,500,000 2021
    Vance McDonald TE 27 5 3 yr$19,650,000 $6,550,000 $9,100,000 2022
    Le'Veon Bell RB 25 5 1 yr$12,120,000 $12,120,000 - 2018
  • lol... Tour uses OverTheCap... 🙂

  • @flyingfooldoug said:

    I understand that. I just wanted more insight on the owner. This could well be the last season he runs the team

    And I understand that. As long as we're understanding stuff. Hoping he can dodge these Mickey Mouse accusations or has the good sense to sell to somebody who might have a better grip on it. Still as far as that goes who the hell knows? Within a team you can go back a few years before they get successful and probably have no idea whether or not the front office and coaching staff that has been put in place is going to be a winner in the future.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    And I understand that. As long as we're understanding stuff. Hoping he can dodge these Mickey Mouse accusations or has the good sense to sell to somebody who might have a better grip on it. Still as far as that goes who the hell knows? Within a team you can go back a few years before they get successful and probably have no idea whether or not the front office and coaching staff that has been put in place is going to be a winner in the future.

    WSS

    He won't sell.  If he gets into the kind of trouble that seems possible from this, his wife/daughter/son in law will own/run the team.

  • Okay Bernie's paycheck for the restaurant and radio spots might be more than eight hundred bucks. That's your argument?

    Controlling interest in an NFL team would probably cost at least five or six thousand dollars.

    😁

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Okay Bernie's paycheck for the restaurant and radio spots might be more than eight hundred bucks. That's your argument?

    Controlling interest in an NFL team would probably cost at least five or six thousand dollars.

    😁

    WSS

    😆 Steve, though I can't say this one is completely my idea... an inference from Cleveland.com- since Warren Buffet is buying Pilot\Flying J, maybe Jimmy can tell him hey Warren, I got a bridge er, football team I'd like to sell you..... 

  • @westside-steve said:

    Okay Bernie's paycheck for the restaurant and radio spots might be more than eight hundred bucks. That's your argument?

    Controlling interest in an NFL team would probably cost at least five or six thousand dollars.

    😁

    WSS

    😆 Steve, though I can't say this one is completely my idea... an inference from Cleveland.com- since Warren Buffet is buying Pilot\Flying J, maybe Jimmy can tell him hey Warren, I got a bridge er, football team I'd like to sell you..... 

    @hoorta said:

    😆 Steve, though I can't say this one is completely my idea... an inference from Cleveland.com- since Warren Buffet is buying Pilot\Flying J, maybe Jimmy can tell him hey Warren, I got a bridge er, football team I'd like to sell you..... 

    I think if Buffet had wanted a football team he would have bought one by now.   So, that ain't happening.   

    And, from what I understand, NFL rules prohibit the team from being sold to a corporate conglomerate like Berkshire Hathaway.  They demand that NFL team be owned by a greedy majority owner individual.   (except..of course, the Packers).

  • Steelers top players well paid and locked somewhat different than the Browns and particularly Browns QB situation. 

    You wonder if any mega billionaire would step in on the Brownies situation,  who?

    Oh our old friend Mr. Haden got a wonderful parting gift for his NFL career. 😉

  • If you factor in Osweiler's 16 million for a QB not even on our team... that puts the Browns at the top of the list at 18 Millions dollars this season on QB 😁

  • If you factor in Osweiler's 16 million for a QB not even on our team... that puts the Browns at the top of the list at 18 Millions dollars this season on QB 😁

    @poeticg said:

    If you factor in Osweiler's 16 million for a QB not even on our team... that puts the Browns at the top of the list at 18 Millions dollars this season on QB 😁

    Who cares about the money they are spending?   Get a good QB...and a good rest of the team.  And shove whatever money you think you are saving up your arse, arselings.

  • Apathetic?

    Jiggins had a post recently where his anger about a Browns game was obvious. You could almost visualize him tapping angrily on his laptop in between chain-smoking cigarettes and downing whiskey from a bottle. (Apparently I visualize him as a private investigator from the 40s).

    Anyway, I was almost envious over his rage over the Browns. I can't recall the last time I've been truly pissed off during/after a Browns game. Oh sure, there's plenty of sighs, moans, or even laughter during Browns games. But anger? It's been a few years.

  • @vagitron said:

    You think Trump is playing chess? Lmao. 

    No. Thus why I said as much.

    @logicisforsquares said:

    No. Thus why I said as much.

    Misinterpreted. I've spent too much time (an hour is enough) on the political board here. I agree. He's Shmucking awful.