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  • thenew23T thenew23

    If it is real, I'd take him in a heartbeat...

    Coaches winning a Super Bowl with second team? Really? Thats your expectations for a new HC?

    Ill take a wild card birth...

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    @thenew23 said:

    If it is real, I'd take him in a heartbeat...

    Coaches winning a Super Bowl with second team? Really? Thats your expectations for a new HC?

    Ill take a wild card birth...

    No coach has ever won a Super Bowl with two teams.   ONLY Weeb Ewbank has won NFL/AFL/AAFC titles with more than one team.

    A few coaches have won with one team and lost with another:

    Don Shula...won with Dolphins, lost with Colts

    Mike Holmgren...won with Packers, lost with Seahawks

    Bill Parcells...won with Giants, lost with Patriots

    finger Vermeil...won with Rams, lost with Eagles

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      Post the link. I can't find anything on this. I call shenanigans. 

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        The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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        Also, just FYI...coaches that have lost the most playoff games without ever having won one:
         

        Marvin Lewis:   a record  0-7 in postseason play.

        Jim Mora  Sr.   was 0-6

        Buddy Ryan and Allie Sherman 0-3

        Guys that lost the most postseason games overall?

        Don Shula  17 losses ....but also 19 wins

        Tom Landry  16 losses...but 20 wins

        Marty Schottenheimer   13 losses....but only 5 wins.

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          Post the link. I can't find anything on this. I call shenanigans. 

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          @alkid3 said:

          Post the link. I can't find anything on this. I call shenanigans. 

          https://twitter.com/ESPNCleveland/status/936630163961499648

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            @mark-o said:

            It should always be the expectation should it not?  Otherwise, why bother?     Point being....coaches who have won a super bowl basically never win one again with a different team.   It just doesn't happen. 

            I don't want Sean Peyton.  I want the next Sean Peyton.   Whoever that guy is.   Young and hungry to be a head coach not a rich old guy resting on his laurels from winning a super bowl somewhere else (see Holmgren, Mike Cleveland Browns if you need a reference.).

            Basically... but you're saying it's possible right? You can say the same thing for QBs. Would you take Aaron Rodgers on our team? Drew Brees? Nobody has won a super bowl on 2 different teams like Peyton Manning.

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            @alkid3 said:

            Basically... but you're saying it's possible right? You can say the same thing for QBs. Would you take Aaron Rodgers on our team? Drew Brees? Nobody has won a super bowl on 2 different teams like Peyton Manning.

            Different situation entirely.   Sure I'd take Brees or Rodgers or Brady or hell..Eli Manning at this point.   Franchise QB's don't switch teams after they've won a super bowl.  It just doesn't happen and if it does, it's when the career is pretty much over.  Peyton being the exception, but his career was pretty much toast when the Broncos signed him and he played well enough not to lose games and the defense carried the team.  

            Coaches leave to go other places and the teams and fans think they're bringing in a super bowl winner because he's done it before somewhere else but it doesn't work out that way.  The hunger isn't there as much to do it the 2nd time.

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              @mark-o said:

              I agree.  I don't see him leaving New Orleans.   But no, I wouldn't want him.   Same question as always....how many coaches have won a super bowl or NFL championship with 2 different teams?   It ain't a long list.  

              I want the next Sean Peyton.   Find that guy and make him our new coach.

              The Rams got him.

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              @stillmotion said:

              The Rams got him.

              They did.  But there's probably another one out there somewhere.   Just have to trust the nerds to find him.

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                Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                If he's the 2017 Sean Peyton, then I'd take him in a heartbeat as well.

                After years of being "pass happy", he's fundamentally changed the Saints offensive approach into one worthy of the AFCN. That kind of adaptability is uncommon.

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                • darren15D darren15

                  ESPN Cleveland are reporting an interesting rumor circulating around the NFL that the Browns next coach could be Sean Peyton ......... I don't see that happening but if it did would you be happy ?

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                  @darren15 said:

                  ESPN Cleveland are reporting an interesting rumor circulating around the NFL that the Browns next coach could be Sean Peyton ......... I don't see that happening but if it did would you be happy ?

                  I like to look at the backgrounds in these rumors......and what's more fun than rumors especially with BROWNS football......he does have Midwest roots:

                  Career information
                  High school: Naperville (IL) Central
                  College: Eastern Illinois
                  Undrafted: 1987
                  Career history
                  As player:
                  • Chicago Bruisers (1987)
                  • Pittsburgh Gladiators (1987)
                  • Ottawa Rough Riders (1987)
                  • Chicago Bears (1987)
                  • Leicester Panthers (1988)
                  As coach:
                  • San Diego State (1988–1989)
                    Offensive assistant
                  • Indiana State (1990–1991)
                    Running backs coach & wide receivers coach
                  • San Diego State (1992–1993)
                    Running backs coach
                  • Miami (OH) (1994–1995)
                    Offensive coordinator
                  • Illinois (1996)
                    Quarterbacks coach
                  GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND!
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                    mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by
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                    Oh a guy from PA I worked with had season tickets to the Pittsburgh Glad-he-ate-hers (as the locals called it) in their short existance, also collected all the merchandise he could get, no real interest with the Steelers in town and they folded.

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                    • mjp28M mjp28

                      @darren15 said:

                      ESPN Cleveland are reporting an interesting rumor circulating around the NFL that the Browns next coach could be Sean Peyton ......... I don't see that happening but if it did would you be happy ?

                      I like to look at the backgrounds in these rumors......and what's more fun than rumors especially with BROWNS football......he does have Midwest roots:

                      Career information
                      High school: Naperville (IL) Central
                      College: Eastern Illinois
                      Undrafted: 1987
                      Career history
                      As player:
                      • Chicago Bruisers (1987)
                      • Pittsburgh Gladiators (1987)
                      • Ottawa Rough Riders (1987)
                      • Chicago Bears (1987)
                      • Leicester Panthers (1988)
                      As coach:
                      • San Diego State (1988–1989)
                        Offensive assistant
                      • Indiana State (1990–1991)
                        Running backs coach & wide receivers coach
                      • San Diego State (1992–1993)
                        Running backs coach
                      • Miami (OH) (1994–1995)
                        Offensive coordinator
                      • Illinois (1996)
                        Quarterbacks coach
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                      The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                      @mjp28 said:

                      I like to look at the backgrounds in these rumors......and what's more fun than rumors especially with BROWNS football......he does have Midwest roots:

                      Career information
                      High school: Naperville (IL) Central
                      College: Eastern Illinois
                      Undrafted: 1987
                      Career history
                      As player:
                      • Chicago Bruisers (1987)
                      • Pittsburgh Gladiators (1987)
                      • Ottawa Rough Riders (1987)
                      • Chicago Bears (1987)
                      • Leicester Panthers (1988)
                      As coach:
                      • San Diego State (1988–1989)
                        Offensive assistant
                      • Indiana State (1990–1991)
                        Running backs coach & wide receivers coach
                      • San Diego State (1992–1993)
                        Running backs coach
                      • Miami (OH) (1994–1995)
                        Offensive coordinator
                      • Illinois (1996)
                        Quarterbacks coach

                      Who are you talking about here?

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                      • The GipperT The Gipper

                        @mjp28 said:

                        I like to look at the backgrounds in these rumors......and what's more fun than rumors especially with BROWNS football......he does have Midwest roots:

                        Career information
                        High school: Naperville (IL) Central
                        College: Eastern Illinois
                        Undrafted: 1987
                        Career history
                        As player:
                        • Chicago Bruisers (1987)
                        • Pittsburgh Gladiators (1987)
                        • Ottawa Rough Riders (1987)
                        • Chicago Bears (1987)
                        • Leicester Panthers (1988)
                        As coach:
                        • San Diego State (1988–1989)
                          Offensive assistant
                        • Indiana State (1990–1991)
                          Running backs coach & wide receivers coach
                        • San Diego State (1992–1993)
                          Running backs coach
                        • Miami (OH) (1994–1995)
                          Offensive coordinator
                        • Illinois (1996)
                          Quarterbacks coach

                        Who are you talking about here?

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                        NeroN Nero wrote on last edited by
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                        @the-gipper said:

                        Who are you talking about here?

                        We are talking only about Sean Payton in this thead. It would be ideal if the OP added his name to the title, anyway.

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                        • The GipperT The Gipper

                          @mjp28 said:

                          I like to look at the backgrounds in these rumors......and what's more fun than rumors especially with BROWNS football......he does have Midwest roots:

                          Career information
                          High school: Naperville (IL) Central
                          College: Eastern Illinois
                          Undrafted: 1987
                          Career history
                          As player:
                          • Chicago Bruisers (1987)
                          • Pittsburgh Gladiators (1987)
                          • Ottawa Rough Riders (1987)
                          • Chicago Bears (1987)
                          • Leicester Panthers (1988)
                          As coach:
                          • San Diego State (1988–1989)
                            Offensive assistant
                          • Indiana State (1990–1991)
                            Running backs coach & wide receivers coach
                          • San Diego State (1992–1993)
                            Running backs coach
                          • Miami (OH) (1994–1995)
                            Offensive coordinator
                          • Illinois (1996)
                            Quarterbacks coach

                          Who are you talking about here?

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                          @the-gipper said:

                          Who are you talking about here?

                          I believe hes referring to Sean Payton.. But I also believe Sean Peyton is from Cali.....

                          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sean_Payton

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                          • LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares

                            This just in....ESPN Cleveland is reporting that the ghost of Vince Lombardi is interested in coaching the Browns.

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                            @logicisforsquares said:

                            This just in....ESPN Cleveland is reporting that the ghost of Vince Lombardi is interested in coaching the Browns.

                            Not true. Someone went to his grave and asked him. All they heard was laughter interspersed with gtfo's

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                              Payton and williams reunited eh? Whatevs. Bets on how long these shtbirds turn on him?

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                                @the-gipper said:

                                Who are you talking about here?

                                We are talking only about Sean Payton in this thead. It would be ideal if the OP added his name to the title, anyway.

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                                @nero said:

                                We are talking only about Sean Payton in this thead. It would be ideal if the OP added his name to the title, anyway.

                                OK, but I thought he had gone on to refer to someone else.

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                                  @the-gipper said:

                                  Who are you talking about here?

                                  I believe hes referring to Sean Payton.. But I also believe Sean Peyton is from Cali.....

                                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sean_Payton

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                                  @nickers said:

                                  I believe hes referring to Sean Payton.. But I also believe Sean Peyton is from Cali.....

                                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sean_Payton

                                  Born in Cali, graduated in the great midwest.

                                  Payton was born in San Mateo, California, and raised in Naperville, Illinois, by parents Thomas and Jeanne Payton.[6] Payton's parents were originally from Scranton, Pennsylvania; Thomas worked in the insurance industry.[7] Sean Payton lived in Newtown Square, Pennsylvania, during his grade school and middle school years (1970 to 1978).[6] Sean attended Naperville Central High School in Naperville, Illinois, starting as quarterback his senior year before graduating in 1982. Winning a football scholarship, Payton had a successful career playing quarterback at Eastern Illinois University, leading the Panthers to an 11–2 record and the quarter-finals of the Division I-AA Playoffs in 1986........

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                                    @nickers said:

                                    I believe hes referring to Sean Payton.. But I also believe Sean Peyton is from Cali.....

                                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sean_Payton

                                    Born in Cali, graduated in the great midwest.

                                    Payton was born in San Mateo, California, and raised in Naperville, Illinois, by parents Thomas and Jeanne Payton.[6] Payton's parents were originally from Scranton, Pennsylvania; Thomas worked in the insurance industry.[7] Sean Payton lived in Newtown Square, Pennsylvania, during his grade school and middle school years (1970 to 1978).[6] Sean attended Naperville Central High School in Naperville, Illinois, starting as quarterback his senior year before graduating in 1982. Winning a football scholarship, Payton had a successful career playing quarterback at Eastern Illinois University, leading the Panthers to an 11–2 record and the quarter-finals of the Division I-AA Playoffs in 1986........

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                                    @mjp28 said:

                                    Born in Cali, graduated in the great midwest.

                                    Payton was born in San Mateo, California, and raised in Naperville, Illinois, by parents Thomas and Jeanne Payton.[6] Payton's parents were originally from Scranton, Pennsylvania; Thomas worked in the insurance industry.[7] Sean Payton lived in Newtown Square, Pennsylvania, during his grade school and middle school years (1970 to 1978).[6] Sean attended Naperville Central High School in Naperville, Illinois, starting as quarterback his senior year before graduating in 1982. Winning a football scholarship, Payton had a successful career playing quarterback at Eastern Illinois University, leading the Panthers to an 11–2 record and the quarter-finals of the Division I-AA Playoffs in 1986........

                                    It's kind of funny.. didn't he spend a part of his childhood down south for a few years?.. I remember seeing a special about him... I couldve sworn he was all southern at one time..

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                                      @mjp28 said:

                                      Born in Cali, graduated in the great midwest.

                                      Payton was born in San Mateo, California, and raised in Naperville, Illinois, by parents Thomas and Jeanne Payton.[6] Payton's parents were originally from Scranton, Pennsylvania; Thomas worked in the insurance industry.[7] Sean Payton lived in Newtown Square, Pennsylvania, during his grade school and middle school years (1970 to 1978).[6] Sean attended Naperville Central High School in Naperville, Illinois, starting as quarterback his senior year before graduating in 1982. Winning a football scholarship, Payton had a successful career playing quarterback at Eastern Illinois University, leading the Panthers to an 11–2 record and the quarter-finals of the Division I-AA Playoffs in 1986........

                                      It's kind of funny.. didn't he spend a part of his childhood down south for a few years?.. I remember seeing a special about him... I couldve sworn he was all southern at one time..

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                                      @nickers said:

                                      It's kind of funny.. didn't he spend a part of his childhood down south for a few years?.. I remember seeing a special about him... I couldve sworn he was all southern at one time..

                                      I don't remember that but I remember graduating with my MBA in 1985 from YSU in 1986 Tressel came to YSU and had them in the playoffs in 1987 one year after Sean had his great year in 1986 in the 1-AA playoffs. 

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                                        @nickers said:

                                        It's kind of funny.. didn't he spend a part of his childhood down south for a few years?.. I remember seeing a special about him... I couldve sworn he was all southern at one time..

                                        I don't remember that but I remember graduating with my MBA in 1985 from YSU in 1986 Tressel came to YSU and had them in the playoffs in 1987 one year after Sean had his great year in 1986 in the 1-AA playoffs. 

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                                        @mjp28 said:

                                        I don't remember that but I remember graduating with my MBA in 1985 from YSU in 1986 Tressel came to YSU and had them in the playoffs in 1987 one year after Sean had his great year in 1986 in the 1-AA playoffs. 

                                        All the same.. I wouldn't mind having him as HC with certain.. I hate to use the word restrictions... As guess cautionary leeway if that makes any sense and provided things went well.. you give him everything he want's.. by the same token.. You can't really hand cuff him too much... If his system is gonna be successful... Time will tell I suppose.. We haven't crossed that bridge yet...

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                                          @alkid3 said:

                                          Basically... but you're saying it's possible right? You can say the same thing for QBs. Would you take Aaron Rodgers on our team? Drew Brees? Nobody has won a super bowl on 2 different teams like Peyton Manning.

                                          Different situation entirely.   Sure I'd take Brees or Rodgers or Brady or hell..Eli Manning at this point.   Franchise QB's don't switch teams after they've won a super bowl.  It just doesn't happen and if it does, it's when the career is pretty much over.  Peyton being the exception, but his career was pretty much toast when the Broncos signed him and he played well enough not to lose games and the defense carried the team.  

                                          Coaches leave to go other places and the teams and fans think they're bringing in a super bowl winner because he's done it before somewhere else but it doesn't work out that way.  The hunger isn't there as much to do it the 2nd time.

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                                          @mark-o said:

                                          Different situation entirely.   Sure I'd take Brees or Rodgers or Brady or hell..Eli Manning at this point.   Franchise QB's don't switch teams after they've won a super bowl.  It just doesn't happen and if it does, it's when the career is pretty much over.  Peyton being the exception, but his career was pretty much toast when the Broncos signed him and he played well enough not to lose games and the defense carried the team.  

                                          Coaches leave to go other places and the teams and fans think they're bringing in a super bowl winner because he's done it before somewhere else but it doesn't work out that way.  The hunger isn't there as much to do it the 2nd time.

                                          In your opinion

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