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  • Could be the difference between Og's inside-gap performance and his edge setting, which is what Cleve has harped upon.

  • Could be the difference between Og's inside-gap performance and his edge setting, which is what Cleve has harped upon.

    @tour2ma said:

    Could be the difference between Og's inside-gap performance and his edge setting, which is what Cleve has harped upon.

    Thats gotta be it cause his edge has been horrendous. U noted it urself some weeks ago how easily he was getting seal/turn blocked. Or literally not noticing that TE lined up just to his left licking his chops at an oblivious DE who's about to get jacked into the DT to his right. 

  • @flyingfooldoug said:

    They turned it around in less than half a century. Can you say that about the browns? We're about the one fifth century point now. 

    That 12 years and 20 years are both less than half a century?

    @tour2ma said:

    That 12 years and 20 years are both less than half a century?

    The browns won the title in 64..... 1964.... And that is well over half a century.

  • I was a bit surprised by this. . .

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  • @tour2ma said:

    That 12 years and 20 years are both less than half a century?

    The browns won the title in 64..... 1964.... And that is well over half a century.

    @flyingfooldoug said:

    The browns won the title in 64..... 1964.... And that is well over half a century.

    So long ago that the name of the Championship changed and there has now been 51 of those Super Bowls since....  

  • @flyingfooldoug said:

    The browns won the title in 64..... 1964.... And that is well over half a century.

    So long ago that the name of the Championship changed and there has now been 51 of those Super Bowls since....  

    @d-bone said:

    So long ago that the name of the Championship changed and there has now been 51 of those Super Bowls since....  

    Yep, half century or so. What a rebuild!,?

  • No Charger punts in the 1st half  (just like last week against the Bengals).  Greg Williams is a joke and this defense is putrid. 

  • No Charger punts in the 1st half  (just like last week against the Bengals).  Greg Williams is a joke and this defense is putrid. 

    @roach said:

    No Charger punts in the 1st half  (just like last week against the Bengals).  Greg Williams is a joke and this defense is putrid. 

    they've held them to 9 points dude. 3 field goals. Phillip Rivers.  Is ur brain ok?

  • @roach said:

    No Charger punts in the 1st half  (just like last week against the Bengals).  Greg Williams is a joke and this defense is putrid. 

    they've held them to 9 points dude. 3 field goals. Phillip Rivers.  Is ur brain ok?

    @clevfan4life said:

    they've held them to 9 points dude. 3 field goals. Phillip Rivers.  Is ur brain ok?

    Do you the Phillip Rivers that is 5-6?

    Our standards for good football are quite different my friend.

  • @clevfan4life said:

    they've held them to 9 points dude. 3 field goals. Phillip Rivers.  Is ur brain ok?

    Do you the Phillip Rivers that is 5-6?

    Our standards for good football are quite different my friend.

    @roach said:

    Do you the Phillip Rivers that is 5-6?

    Our standards for good football are quite different my friend.

    Rivers is a Solid QB. Our defense is playing alright. Usually, an offense should be able to put up more than 3-10 PTs in order to win.

  • That makes it official. 0 - 12

  • Defense was bad today

  • Defense was bad today

    @baconhound said:

    Defense was bad today

    they held the chargers to 3 field goals in the 1st half. How were they 'bad"?

  • @baconhound said:

    Defense was bad today

    they held the chargers to 3 field goals in the 1st half. How were they 'bad"?

    @clevfan4life said:

    How were they 'bad"?

    They gave up 9 more points than the offense scored 😉

  • @baconhound said:

    Defense was bad today

    they held the chargers to 3 field goals in the 1st half. How were they 'bad"?

    @clevfan4life said:

    they held the chargers to 3 field goals in the 1st half. How were they 'bad"?

    They allowed the Chargers 35 minutes in time of possession and didn't force a punt until the 4th quarter.  While I applaud their ability to limit red zone scores LA moved the ball with great ease.  I will grant you that ultimately the score is what matters but I still don't have the impression that when the win is on the line they can get the other team off the field.

  • @clevfan4life said:

    they held the chargers to 3 field goals in the 1st half. How were they 'bad"?

    They allowed the Chargers 35 minutes in time of possession and didn't force a punt until the 4th quarter.  While I applaud their ability to limit red zone scores LA moved the ball with great ease.  I will grant you that ultimately the score is what matters but I still don't have the impression that when the win is on the line they can get the other team off the field.

    @baconhound said:

    They allowed the Chargers 35 minutes in time of possession and didn't force a punt until the 4th quarter.  While I applaud their ability to limit red zone scores LA moved the ball with great ease.  I will grant you that ultimately the score is what matters but I still don't have the impression that when the win is on the line they can get the other team off the field.

    Not at all.

    I have zero faith that if the Browns could somehow stumble upon a lead late in a game that the defense could or would stop the other team from marching down the field and taking back the lead.

  • @mark-o said:

    Getting thrown in day 1 worked out pretty well for the Eagles 

    Was that the cleveland eagles?

    @clevfan4life said:

    Was that the cleveland eagles?

    Did you know that during the second world war when men and materials were in short supply, the Browns and the Eagles combined into one football team? It's true. They were called the Cleagles.

                                                                                                                                                                                                    Surely, nobody will bite on this.

  • I’m more concerned with Kizer missing a wide open gordon for a sure touchdown, and yet another strip sack.  The defense has been playing like Sheet lately, but the Chargers have averaged 33 points per game over the last 3 and 22 points per game over the season.  The Browns held them to 19, which is good enough to win when your rookie QB Doesnt shoot the team in the foot. 

  • ^^^^^ that

    what kind of ridiculous non sensical over expectations is this when we expect a rookie defense to hold phillip rivers and the chargers to less than 10 pts? Cause if ur hanging this loss in the def, they would gave had to hold the chargers to less pts than the offense right? Right u numpties? 

    But per usual our offense is so atrocious it helps the def not one iota. 3 fg's in the 1st half aint half bad for the def against phillip rivers with those wr's and melvin gordon running behind em. That was a top 10 rusher we held to 77 yds and an oversll #8 offense we held to 19 pts

  • ^^^^^ that

    what kind of ridiculous non sensical over expectations is this when we expect a rookie defense to hold phillip rivers and the chargers to less than 10 pts? Cause if ur hanging this loss in the def, they would gave had to hold the chargers to less pts than the offense right? Right u numpties? 

    But per usual our offense is so atrocious it helps the def not one iota. 3 fg's in the 1st half aint half bad for the def against phillip rivers with those wr's and melvin gordon running behind em. That was a top 10 rusher we held to 77 yds and an oversll #8 offense we held to 19 pts

    @clevfan4life said:

    ^^^^^ that

    what kind of ridiculous non sensical over expectations is this when we expect a rookie defense to hold phillip rivers and the chargers to less than 10 pts? Cause if ur hanging this loss in the def, they would gave had to hold the chargers to less pts than the offense right? Right u numpties? 

    But per usual our offense is so atrocious it helps the def not one iota. 3 fg's in the 1st half aint half bad for the def against phillip rivers with those wr's and melvin gordon running behind em. That was a top 10 rusher we held to 77 yds and an oversll #8 offense we held to 19 pts

    True that, look at how good mccourty did on covering Allen. He had some major stops, and Allen is crazy good. Kizer missed throws all game and held onto the ball too long.