Coach Rumor
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Basically... but you're saying it's possible right? You can say the same thing for QBs. Would you take Aaron Rodgers on our team? Drew Brees? Nobody has won a super bowl on 2 different teams like Peyton Manning.
Different situation entirely. Sure I'd take Brees or Rodgers or Brady or hell..Eli Manning at this point. Franchise QB's don't switch teams after they've won a super bowl. It just doesn't happen and if it does, it's when the career is pretty much over. Peyton being the exception, but his career was pretty much toast when the Broncos signed him and he played well enough not to lose games and the defense carried the team.
Coaches leave to go other places and the teams and fans think they're bringing in a super bowl winner because he's done it before somewhere else but it doesn't work out that way. The hunger isn't there as much to do it the 2nd time.
Different situation entirely. Sure I'd take Brees or Rodgers or Brady or hell..Eli Manning at this point. Franchise QB's don't switch teams after they've won a super bowl. It just doesn't happen and if it does, it's when the career is pretty much over. Peyton being the exception, but his career was pretty much toast when the Broncos signed him and he played well enough not to lose games and the defense carried the team.
Coaches leave to go other places and the teams and fans think they're bringing in a super bowl winner because he's done it before somewhere else but it doesn't work out that way. The hunger isn't there as much to do it the 2nd time.
In your opinion
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Different situation entirely. Sure I'd take Brees or Rodgers or Brady or hell..Eli Manning at this point. Franchise QB's don't switch teams after they've won a super bowl. It just doesn't happen and if it does, it's when the career is pretty much over. Peyton being the exception, but his career was pretty much toast when the Broncos signed him and he played well enough not to lose games and the defense carried the team.
Coaches leave to go other places and the teams and fans think they're bringing in a super bowl winner because he's done it before somewhere else but it doesn't work out that way. The hunger isn't there as much to do it the 2nd time.
In your opinion
In your opinion
The facts and stats that only one coach has done it support my opinion that its not the best way to go when looking for a new head coach.
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The facts and stats that only one coach has done it support my opinion that its not the best way to go when looking for a new head coach.
Again in your opinion. Browns need to get wins before thinking super bowl. And then playoffs before super bowl we can't just rule this out because it's highly unlikely.
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The facts and stats that only one coach has done it support my opinion that its not the best way to go when looking for a new head coach.
Again in your opinion. Browns need to get wins before thinking super bowl. And then playoffs before super bowl we can't just rule this out because it's highly unlikely.
Again in your opinion. Browns need to get wins before thinking super bowl. And then playoffs before super bowl we can't just rule this out because it's highly unlikely.
Facts are not opinion. Its happened only one time in NFL history. That is a fact.
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I'm just sick and tired of rumors. All the time, Cleveland gets thrown into these "Cowher just bought a house in Berea" conversations. Be realistic guys, Haslam, like most of the NFL owner fux, don't tell anyone, anything. A coach change probably would start with a rumor or a leak, but in general after the first leak the story is everywhere and the cat is out of the bag.
I never liked Hue, and when he finally does gets canned, (Can you envision any scenario where he doesn't get fired?), I have absolutely no fire for coming in here and doing the " I told you" dance.
For the first time since I have been a Browns fan, I feel sorry for the team. Hue is so clueless and unimaginative it is beyond reason. How do you let this guy keep coming to work? For the love of God, even if only as a gesture to say, " I do not want this future for my Browns", how does Haslam not fire this coxucker?
What has happened to the Browns is inexcusable. Haslam should be ashamed of himself. He really should be.
0 - 16 parade? WTF? How about a SELL THE TEAM HASLAM parade? Seriously, Fukc Haslam.
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Would love Sean Payton but isn't going to happen but if we are chatting with Santa I'll settle for Dan Quinn with Kyle Shananahan as OC.
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Would love Sean Payton but isn't going to happen but if we are chatting with Santa I'll settle for Dan Quinn with Kyle Shananahan as OC.
Would love Sean Payton but isn't going to happen but if we are chatting with Santa I'll settle for Dan Quinn with Kyle Shananahan as OC.
Why would Kyle Shanahan leave being a HC in San Francisco to be the OC here?
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Would love Sean Payton but isn't going to happen but if we are chatting with Santa I'll settle for Dan Quinn with Kyle Shananahan as OC.
Why would Kyle Shanahan leave being a HC in San Francisco to be the OC here?
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Facts are not opinion. Its happened only one time in NFL history. That is a fact.
Wait...what are we arguing about here? Whether or not any team has ever gone from being completely out of the playoffs one year to winning the SB the next?
I know of at least 2 times it has happened, fairly recently: 1999 Rams went from 4-12 to Super Bowl winner the next year.
2001 Patriots went from 5-11 to Super Bowl winner the next year.
There may have been others in the past.
But if this is not what you are talking about...well...at least you now have this data.
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The facts and stats that only one coach has done it support my opinion that its not the best way to go when looking for a new head coach.
Or are we saying has any coach ever won a title with one team then also won later with another.
As I think I noted above.....only Weeb Ewbank has ever done this.
But, Parcells, Holmgren had a chance.
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ben mcadoo just got fired from the giants, OC candidate?
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Yep, McAdoo and the GM out.
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/21665997/new-york-giants-fire-coach-ben-mcadoo-two-seasons
This means that the Giants will get a head start on getting a good coach.
What are the Browns waiting for? McAdoo took over the same time as Hue. He ended up 13-15. Hue is 1-27 no?
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The facts and stats that only one coach has done it support my opinion that its not the best way to go when looking for a new head coach.
Or are we saying has any coach ever won a title with one team then also won later with another.
As I think I noted above.....only Weeb Ewbank has ever done this.
But, Parcells, Holmgren had a chance.
Or are we saying has any coach ever won a title with one team then also won later with another.
As I think I noted above.....only Weeb Ewbank has ever done this.
But, Parcells, Holmgren had a chance.
That's what we are talking about. But apparently since it's once in the last million years, we should still try to bring in a coach who has already won somewhere else because it could happen again.
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Or are we saying has any coach ever won a title with one team then also won later with another.
As I think I noted above.....only Weeb Ewbank has ever done this.
But, Parcells, Holmgren had a chance.
That's what we are talking about. But apparently since it's once in the last million years, we should still try to bring in a coach who has already won somewhere else because it could happen again.
That's what we are talking about. But apparently since it's once in the last million years, we should still try to bring in a coach who has already won somewhere else because it could happen again.
I don't have a problem bringing in a guy that has won a Super Bowl. It cannot be worse than the detritus that we have had for the last whatever years since 1999.
But, if you can bring in somebody that is super...but who has not won before, great.
But shite.....we all thought we had that guy here 2 years ago when HJ came in.
Let's put it this way....the ONE thing that has NOT been tried by this team these last 18-20 years was to bring in a PROVEN, championship winning coach. Not Palmer, Davis, Crennel, Shurmur, Pettine, Mangini, Chudzinski....Jackson.
WTF...I am willing to give it a try:
Payton, Cowher, Dungy, Gruden, Parcells, Kubiak, Coughlin, Cowher. Bring in Brian freeking Billick. Mike Shanahan. Jimmy Johnson, Barry Switzer. Joe Gibbs, Mike Ditka, George Seifert. Any one of them that is still breathing....Don Shula...Tom Flores, John Madden. WTF.
OK, some guys are dead. We can cross their names off the list. (Lombardi, Noll, Landry, Walsh, Stram.
EFFING Hell....bring back Holmgren.....as a Coach only!
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Would love Sean Payton but isn't going to happen but if we are chatting with Santa I'll settle for Dan Quinn with Kyle Shananahan as OC.
Why would Kyle Shanahan leave being a HC in San Francisco to be the OC here?
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