Hoorta was right - Tom, and Ghoolie were wrong
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And note this. It caused a lot of consternation. But I don't think it was actually that bad of a hit...compared to many many others. It was perhaps a late hit....and he did attempt to spear him.....but it looks like he actually missed and just landed on him. He got Sheet from the Browns more for his intent than for what actually happened:
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ward was biggest cheap shot artist as an offensive player that i can ever remember. a sucker punch artist. never did it face to face. steve smith jr. would have knocked him the Shmuck out .....along with tomlin.
how has that coaching pick serve you so far? marvin lewis much?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA!!!!!
Hines Ward never sucker punched anyone. Bet guys like Dikk Butkus, Conrad Dobler, and Mean Joe Greene did.
Coaching pick? What the funk you talking about?
Hines Ward never sucker punched anyone. Bet guys like Dikk Butkus, Conrad Dobler, and Mean Joe Greene did.
Coaching pick? What the funk you talking about?
Sucker punch? I don't know. But he would give a blindside forearm shiver to the head or neck. He is why the league outlawed that action....and that is exactly what whatshidfuyuck...Jojojuju did to get penalized. (even though...that penalty was not accepted. It was the subsequest taunting penalty that was).
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I don't know what is more totally hilarious about the "THE NFL IS A THUG LEAGUE NOW" rants...
The fact that its being spewed by people who would wax poetic about finger Butkus, Jack Tatum, Deacon Jones, Ray Nitchzke, et al of the past, "REAL FOOTBALL PLAYERS" or the fact that its being spewed by people who have rambled on and on ON THIS BOARD about how this country is full of wimpy, pansy men.
Watch clips of the NFL in the 50s, 60s and 70s and then say, with a straight face, how clean and sportsmanlike the NFL was back then.
I don't know what is more totally hilarious about the "THE NFL IS A THUG LEAGUE NOW" rants...
The fact that its being spewed by people who would wax poetic about finger Butkus, Jack Tatum, Deacon Jones, Ray Nitchzke, et al of the past, "REAL FOOTBALL PLAYERS" or the fact that its being spewed by people who have rambled on and on ON THIS BOARD about how this country is full of wimpy, pansy men.
Watch clips of the NFL in the 50s, 60s and 70s and then say, with a straight face, how clean and sportsmanlike the NFL was back then.
Some of these look just like neck tackles. I am not sure the neck tackle is illegal now, is it? I am not talking horse collars....or forearm shivers...which I also see here. I mean, just grabbing a guy around the neck...and avoiding the face mask...I think is still legal...no?
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i think depending on maliciousness.
called horse collar tackle.
not cool.
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Sorry to post this somewhat redundant thread about dirty play, but for me, this warrants a comment.
Over the years I battled Hoorta, who has always maintained that players should not be what we typically call headhunters. I always countered that if the head hunters were our guys we would love them. I thought Hoorta was soft, sissified, old fashioned. I always took the tack that football is a brutal game and it should be played without reserve.
Last night's game left a lasting impression on me. That game was sick. It assaulted everything that football is supposed to be about. Gone are the days when a defensive player lets up on a hit because his team is ridiculously in the lead, or because a mere push, or a QB bear hug will get the job done. Instead, too many players have become self-important, inhumane creeps.
I am doing a 180 and bowing to Larry's wisdom. Play tough, be a bad butt, be a monster of the midway, but these head hunters can all go screw themselves. Give me a Singletery, Butkis, or Eric Turner. I don't want these creeps on my team.
Touche' Hoorta. Touche"
No Ghoolie No!!! ...What a sharp contrast to what I heard on the radio today.
Tony Rizzo stressed to the younger listeners that last nights Steelers Bungles game was the way the game was played back in the day.
The way the game was played back in the day is why there are more rules today. To many retired players with concussions and other injuries.
Dikk Butkis never let up. He drilled you and made sure you felt the pain. Remember the vicious head slaps delivered by defensive linemen that were once legal?
The hit on Frank Gifford that I believe ended his career.
Hell, the Turkey Jones planting of Bradshaw...saw no letting up by that big Turkey!
The way Hines Ward blocked was perfectly legal until the league decided to make it illegal....again the concussion thing.
Imagine a player speaking like this today!!!...
Fast forward this video at 2:26 where Deacon Jones states his goal was to put the opponent in the hospital without remorse..to tear his head off.
No Ghoolie No!!! ...What a sharp contrast to what I heard on the radio today.
Tony Rizzo stressed to the younger listeners that last nights Steelers Bungles game was the way the game was played back in the day.
The way the game was played back in the day is why there are more rules today. To many retired players with concussions and other injuries.
Dikk Butkis never let up. He drilled you and made sure you felt the pain. Remember the vicious head slaps delivered by defensive linemen that were once legal?
The hit on Frank Gifford that I believe ended his career.
Hell, the Turkey Jones planting of Bradshaw...saw no letting up by that big Turkey!
The way Hines Ward blocked was perfectly legal until the league decided to make it illegal....again the concussion thing.
Imagine a player speaking like this today!!!...
Fast forward this video at 2:26 where Deacon Jones states his goal was to put the opponent in the hospital without remorse..to tear his head off.
I don t see him leading with his head.
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The kind of play you're referring to denotes a sense of sportsmanship. Sportsmanship left the major sports years ago. It's replaced by a 'street thug' mentality.
As long as that makes more money, it will only get worse.
The kind of play you're referring to denotes a sense of sportsmanship. Sportsmanship left the major sports years ago. It's replaced by a 'street thug' mentality.
As long as that makes more money, it will only get worse.
Why is the term "thug" never used when referring to sanctioned NHL fights/thuggery
? Don't use the "it's hockey" excuse seeing as how elite international leagues don't play that way
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The kind of play you're referring to denotes a sense of sportsmanship. Sportsmanship left the major sports years ago. It's replaced by a 'street thug' mentality.
As long as that makes more money, it will only get worse.
Why is the term "thug" never used when referring to sanctioned NHL fights/thuggery
? Don't use the "it's hockey" excuse seeing as how elite international leagues don't play that way
Why is the term "thug" never used when referring to sanctioned NHL fights/thuggery
? Don't use the "it's hockey" excuse seeing as how elite international leagues don't play that way
Because the term used in Hockey is: Goon.
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well the NFL can start by having a commissioner with a spine (sorry stingley.....watched that live. friggin horrible, but saw that coming from that toothless Shmuck. worse was receiver blowing out both knees just by landing on bad philly carpet....vikings guy??). letting your players run your league has cost you 20-30% of tv viewership and millions of dollars because the man of the year wears socks calling cops pigs and others disregarding feelings of patriotism in the name of some change and kneeling in front of those who dedicate their lives for their chance to live and prosper..........when they could flick a booger at what it takes to protect their pampered asses.
funny how they all hate cops until they get robbed, beaten or house broken into....
explain DAT. (off topic, sorry. just fired up after seeing fat **MASK** beyonce give this fool his SI award last night).
well the NFL can start by having a commissioner with a spine (sorry stingley.....watched that live. friggin horrible, but saw that coming from that toothless Shmuck. worse was receiver blowing out both knees just by landing on bad philly carpet....vikings guy??). letting your players run your league has cost you 20-30% of tv viewership and millions of dollars because the man of the year wears socks calling cops pigs and others disregarding feelings of patriotism in the name of some change and kneeling in front of those who dedicate their lives for their chance to live and prosper..........when they could flick a booger at what it takes to protect their pampered asses.
funny how they all hate cops until they get robbed, beaten or house broken into....
explain DAT. (off topic, sorry. just fired up after seeing fat **MASK** beyonce give this fool his SI award last night).
Now most of that I can agree with!
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well the NFL can start by having a commissioner with a spine (sorry stingley.....watched that live. friggin horrible, but saw that coming from that toothless Shmuck. worse was receiver blowing out both knees just by landing on bad philly carpet....vikings guy??). letting your players run your league has cost you 20-30% of tv viewership and millions of dollars because the man of the year wears socks calling cops pigs and others disregarding feelings of patriotism in the name of some change and kneeling in front of those who dedicate their lives for their chance to live and prosper..........when they could flick a booger at what it takes to protect their pampered asses.
funny how they all hate cops until they get robbed, beaten or house broken into....
explain DAT. (off topic, sorry. just fired up after seeing fat **MASK** beyonce give this fool his SI award last night).
Now most of that I can agree with!
Now most of that I can agree with!
HA!!!
it's just ball bustin on my part. tough being brown's fan.
aren't u the one i lost bets with like 3 years in a row and stocked ur fridge with beer because of it?
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Hines Ward never sucker punched anyone. Bet guys like Dikk Butkus, Conrad Dobler, and Mean Joe Greene did.
Coaching pick? What the funk you talking about?
Sucker punch? I don't know. But he would give a blindside forearm shiver to the head or neck. He is why the league outlawed that action....and that is exactly what whatshidfuyuck...Jojojuju did to get penalized. (even though...that penalty was not accepted. It was the subsequest taunting penalty that was).
Sucker punch? I don't know. But he would give a blindside forearm shiver to the head or neck. He is why the league outlawed that action....and that is exactly what whatshidfuyuck...Jojojuju did to get penalized. (even though...that penalty was not accepted. It was the subsequest taunting penalty that was).
Exactly Gip, it's the difference between a blindside hit and sucker punch. Heinie never missed an opportunity to cheap shot a guy like that. Ward did cause that rule, same way Headhunter Harrison got the blows to the head rule instituted. KOed two Browns players in one game IIRC. Not only did JuJu KO Burfict, he stood over him and laughed about it. Talk about NHL goonery. Hope Shazier learned his lesson about not leading with your head.
The game is violent enough without intent to injure on top of it. Can remember the days of the now illegal head slap.
& Who was the Dolphins center that got his knee destroyed, and career ruined by a cheap shot when he wasn't even involved in the play during an interception return?
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don't think shazier will ever play same way again.....mentally.
god bless these guys with their physical ability and dedication to make it as far as they have.....BUT they could be from my homer HS or college squad and would still recognize thug play and call them out for it.
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No Ghoolie No!!! ...What a sharp contrast to what I heard on the radio today.
Tony Rizzo stressed to the younger listeners that last nights Steelers Bungles game was the way the game was played back in the day.
The way the game was played back in the day is why there are more rules today. To many retired players with concussions and other injuries.
Dikk Butkis never let up. He drilled you and made sure you felt the pain. Remember the vicious head slaps delivered by defensive linemen that were once legal?
The hit on Frank Gifford that I believe ended his career.
Hell, the Turkey Jones planting of Bradshaw...saw no letting up by that big Turkey!
The way Hines Ward blocked was perfectly legal until the league decided to make it illegal....again the concussion thing.
Imagine a player speaking like this today!!!...
Fast forward this video at 2:26 where Deacon Jones states his goal was to put the opponent in the hospital without remorse..to tear his head off.
I don t see him leading with his head.
I don t see him leading with his head.
you don't have to lead with your head to be a thug hit.
what no one remembers lawrence taylor breaking theisman's leg after snorting an ounce of coke with parcell's knowledge?
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you don't have to lead with your head to be a thug hit.
what no one remembers lawrence taylor breaking theisman's leg after snorting an ounce of coke with parcell's knowledge?
If thats the case.. Both Mara, Parcells and LT should do jail time for negligence.. I believe Wellington Mara is deceased ...
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every one person in the 'game' is guilty of something. either being a softie and turning the other cheek for others underneath you to do the dirty work or willfully participating in hiring douchebags and then complaining about other douchebags that hit your douchebags.
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every one person in the 'game' is guilty of something. either being a softie and turning the other cheek for others underneath you to do the dirty work or willfully participating in hiring douchebags and then complaining about other douchebags that hit your douchebags.
every one person in the 'game' is guilty of something. either being a softie and turning the other cheek for others underneath you to do the dirty work or willfully participating in hiring douchebags and then complaining about other douchebags that hit your douchebags.
I am 100% in agreement. I think the NFL, Godell made a mess by applying a graded scale of punishment based on TV revenue, owner clout and personal preferences.
How does Josh Gordon rate versus these head torpedo thugs?
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