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  • Adoug319 A One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
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    Took over as GM for Kansas City after they went 2-14

    Led them to 11-5, 9-7, 11-5, and 12-4

    Was fired because he was a “go with the flow” guy, and “not very organized”

    But was well-known for having an uncanny ability at knowing how to pick players

    I’m in, a football guy who is good a picking players please and thank you

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      Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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      Here are his drafts 2013 - 2016:

      Year Rnd Player Pick Pos To AP1 PB St CarAV G Cmp Att Yds TD Int Att Yds TD Rec Yds TD Int Sk College/Univ
      2016 2 Chris Jones 37 DT 2017 0 0 2 6 28                       1 5.5 Mississippi St.
      2016 3 KeiVarae Russell 74 CB 2017 0 0 0 1 11                       1   Notre Dame
      2016 4 Parker Ehinger 105 G 2016 0 0 0 2 5                           Cincinnati
      2016 4 Eric Murray 106 CB 2017 0 0 0 1 27                           Minnesota
      2016 4 Demarcus Robinson 126 WR 2017 0 0 1 0 28                 17 181 0     Florida
      2016 5 Kevin Hogan 162 QB 2017 0 0 0 1 8 60 101 621 4 7 18 176 1           Stanford
      2016 5 Tyreek Hill 165 WR 2017 1 1 1 10 28 0 1 0 0 1 40 327 3 121 1504 12     West Alabama
      2016 6 D.J. White 178 CB 2016 0 0 0 1 11                       1   Georgia Tech
      2016 6 Dadi Nicolas 203 DE 2016 0 0 0 1 11                           Virginia Tech
      Year Rnd Player Pick Pos To AP1 PB St CarAV G Cmp Att Yds TD Int Att Yds TD Rec Yds TD Int Sk College/Univ
      2015 1 Marcus Peters 18 CB 2017 1 2 3 23 43                       17   Washington
      2015 2 Mitch Morse 49 G 2017 0 0 3 15 38                           Missouri
      2015 3 Chris Conley 76 WR 2017 0 0 1 7 37                 72 904 1     Georgia
      2015 3 Steven Nelson 98 CB 2017 0 0 1 6 32                           Oregon St.
      2015 4 Ramik Wilson 118 ILB 2017 0 0 1 9 29                       1   Georgia
      2015 5 D.J. Alexander 172 OLB 2017 0 1 0 5 42                           Oregon St.
      2015 5 James O'Shaughnessy 173 TE 2017 0 0 0 1 35                 16 181 0     Illinois St.
      2015 6 Rakeem Nunez-Roches 217 DT 2017 0 0 1 4 30                         1.5 Southern Miss
      2015 7 Da'Ron Brown 233 WR   0 0 0                               Northern Illinois
      Year Rnd Player Pick Pos To AP1 PB St CarAV G Cmp Att Yds TD Int Att Yds TD Rec Yds TD Int Sk College/Univ
      2014 1 Dee Ford 23 LB 2017 0 0 1 11 51                         17.5 Auburn
      2014 3 Phillip Gaines 87 DB 2017 0 0 0 5 39                       1   Rice
      2014 4 De'Anthony Thomas 124 RB 2017 0 0 0 6 46           28 180 2 59 468 3     Oregon
      2014 5 Aaron Murray 163 QB   0 0 0                               Georgia
      2014 6 Zach Fulton 193 G 2017 0 0 2 16 60                           Tennessee
      2014 6 Laurent Duvernay-Tardif 200 OL 2017 0 0 3 13 38                           McGill
      Year Rnd Player Pick Pos To AP1 PB St CarAV G Cmp Att Yds TD Int Att Yds TD Rec Yds TD Int Sk College/Univ
      2013 1 Eric Fisher 1 T 2017 0 0 5 27 74                 0 -5 0     Central Michigan
      2013 3 Travis Kelce 63 TE 2017 1 2 4 27 61 0 1 0 0 1 3 2 0 290 3733 21     Cincinnati
      2013 3 Knile Davis 96 RB 2016 0 0 0 10 57           250 805 11 34 271 1     Arkansas
      2013 4 Nico Johnson 99 LB 2015 0 0 0 3 18                           Alabama
      2013 5 Sanders Commings 134 DB 2013 0 0 0 0 2                           Georgia
      2013 6 Eric Kush 170 C 2016 0 0 0 3 18                           California (PA)
      2013 6 Braden Wilson 204 FB   0 0 0                               Kansas St.
      2013 7 Mike Catapano 207 DE 2016 0 0 0 3 29                         2.0 Princeton
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        Dorsey's entire career is as a scout.  How will he make a judgement on players he doesn't personally scout? Will there be.... metrics?

        If there are metrics used and those ratings are based on team consensus [which given everything we can find is what Dorsey is all about].... this is different than Sashi how, exactly? One fewer "s" in the name yields infinite wins?

        The more labels you have for yourself, the dumber they make you. "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." Paul Brown
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          The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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          It has been rumored that there are some GM/coach "package" deals that may be out there:

          Pioli and Vrabel

          Caserio and McDaniels.

          Point is, these would be GMs/coaches that would be in sync.    Dorsey and Hue however?   Someone used the term:  shotgun marriage.

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            It has been rumored that there are some GM/coach "package" deals that may be out there:

            Pioli and Vrabel

            Caserio and McDaniels.

            Point is, these would be GMs/coaches that would be in sync.    Dorsey and Hue however?   Someone used the term:  shotgun marriage.

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            @the-gipper said:

            It has been rumored that there are some GM/coach "package" deals that may be out there:

            Pioli and Vrabel

            Caserio and McDaniels.

            Point is, these would be GMs/coaches that would be in sync.    Dorsey and Hue however?   Someone used the term:  shotgun marriage.

            Sounds like Hue has convinced Jimmy he can coach, he just needs better players. 

            Whoever they hire will agree to Hue as coach for 2018, and if the season goes south next year, Hue will be gone and the GM can hand pick his new coach.

            Winning in 2018 will make a shotgun wedding work.

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              @the-gipper said:

              It has been rumored that there are some GM/coach "package" deals that may be out there:

              Pioli and Vrabel

              Caserio and McDaniels.

              Point is, these would be GMs/coaches that would be in sync.    Dorsey and Hue however?   Someone used the term:  shotgun marriage.

              Sounds like Hue has convinced Jimmy he can coach, he just needs better players. 

              Whoever they hire will agree to Hue as coach for 2018, and if the season goes south next year, Hue will be gone and the GM can hand pick his new coach.

              Winning in 2018 will make a shotgun wedding work.

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              The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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              @adoug319 said:

              Sounds like Hue has convinced Jimmy he can coach, he just needs better players. 

              Whoever they hire will agree to Hue as coach for 2018, and if the season goes south next year, Hue will be gone and the GM can hand pick his new coach.

              Winning in 2018 will make a shotgun wedding work.

              Then I would predict that Hue would be gone by the end of November next year.

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                @the-gipper said:

                It has been rumored that there are some GM/coach "package" deals that may be out there:

                Pioli and Vrabel

                Caserio and McDaniels.

                Point is, these would be GMs/coaches that would be in sync.    Dorsey and Hue however?   Someone used the term:  shotgun marriage.

                Sounds like Hue has convinced Jimmy he can coach, he just needs better players. 

                Whoever they hire will agree to Hue as coach for 2018, and if the season goes south next year, Hue will be gone and the GM can hand pick his new coach.

                Winning in 2018 will make a shotgun wedding work.

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                nickersN nickers wrote on last edited by
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                @adoug319 said:

                Sounds like Hue has convinced Jimmy he can coach, he just needs better players. 

                Whoever they hire will agree to Hue as coach for 2018, and if the season goes south next year, Hue will be gone and the GM can hand pick his new coach.

                Winning in 2018 will make a shotgun wedding work.

                Ok so if all the players suck (supposedly)... How is keeping hue gonna get them to buy into a program that they clearly have not bought into...???

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                  @adoug319 said:

                  Sounds like Hue has convinced Jimmy he can coach, he just needs better players. 

                  Whoever they hire will agree to Hue as coach for 2018, and if the season goes south next year, Hue will be gone and the GM can hand pick his new coach.

                  Winning in 2018 will make a shotgun wedding work.

                  Ok so if all the players suck (supposedly)... How is keeping hue gonna get them to buy into a program that they clearly have not bought into...???

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                  A Adoug319 wrote on last edited by Adoug319
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                  @nickers said:

                  Ok so if all the players suck (supposedly)... How is keeping hue gonna get them to buy into a program that they clearly have not bought into...???

                  I’m not saying I agree or disagree, I’m just attempting to read between the lines.

                  To answer your question, I believe Hue wants a competent QB who could win now (McCarron) while a younger QB who clearly isn’t ready (Kizer) could learn. Hue clearly lamented the botched trade, and according to MKC, Sashi and Hue haven’t been on speaking terms since then.

                  https://mobile.twitter.com/BenAxelrod/status/938805530230951936

                  The power struggle between Hue and Sashi was over when we saw Hue and Jimmy talking to AJ McCarron before the Bengals game.

                  My guess is we sign AJ in the offseason and he starts. We draft a QB #1. He and Kizer fight it out for 2nd and 3rd string.

                  Hue has an experienced QB, no excuses for losing. If we go 6-10 or better, everyone is happy.

                  If not, the new GM picks a coach he wants for 2019.

                  Thats what I see 

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                    jiggins7919J jiggins7919 wrote on last edited by jiggins7919
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                    Do we know the status of McCarron's suit to become an unrestricted FA?  Didn't his agent file a complaint against the NFL after the trade with us didn't go through?

                    http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/21286767/aj-mccarron-files-grievance-vs-cincinnati-bengals-wants-unrestricted-free-agent-2018

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                      Here are his drafts 2013 - 2016:

                      Year Rnd Player Pick Pos To AP1 PB St CarAV G Cmp Att Yds TD Int Att Yds TD Rec Yds TD Int Sk College/Univ
                      2016 2 Chris Jones 37 DT 2017 0 0 2 6 28                       1 5.5 Mississippi St.
                      2016 3 KeiVarae Russell 74 CB 2017 0 0 0 1 11                       1   Notre Dame
                      2016 4 Parker Ehinger 105 G 2016 0 0 0 2 5                           Cincinnati
                      2016 4 Eric Murray 106 CB 2017 0 0 0 1 27                           Minnesota
                      2016 4 Demarcus Robinson 126 WR 2017 0 0 1 0 28                 17 181 0     Florida
                      2016 5 Kevin Hogan 162 QB 2017 0 0 0 1 8 60 101 621 4 7 18 176 1           Stanford
                      2016 5 Tyreek Hill 165 WR 2017 1 1 1 10 28 0 1 0 0 1 40 327 3 121 1504 12     West Alabama
                      2016 6 D.J. White 178 CB 2016 0 0 0 1 11                       1   Georgia Tech
                      2016 6 Dadi Nicolas 203 DE 2016 0 0 0 1 11                           Virginia Tech
                      Year Rnd Player Pick Pos To AP1 PB St CarAV G Cmp Att Yds TD Int Att Yds TD Rec Yds TD Int Sk College/Univ
                      2015 1 Marcus Peters 18 CB 2017 1 2 3 23 43                       17   Washington
                      2015 2 Mitch Morse 49 G 2017 0 0 3 15 38                           Missouri
                      2015 3 Chris Conley 76 WR 2017 0 0 1 7 37                 72 904 1     Georgia
                      2015 3 Steven Nelson 98 CB 2017 0 0 1 6 32                           Oregon St.
                      2015 4 Ramik Wilson 118 ILB 2017 0 0 1 9 29                       1   Georgia
                      2015 5 D.J. Alexander 172 OLB 2017 0 1 0 5 42                           Oregon St.
                      2015 5 James O'Shaughnessy 173 TE 2017 0 0 0 1 35                 16 181 0     Illinois St.
                      2015 6 Rakeem Nunez-Roches 217 DT 2017 0 0 1 4 30                         1.5 Southern Miss
                      2015 7 Da'Ron Brown 233 WR   0 0 0                               Northern Illinois
                      Year Rnd Player Pick Pos To AP1 PB St CarAV G Cmp Att Yds TD Int Att Yds TD Rec Yds TD Int Sk College/Univ
                      2014 1 Dee Ford 23 LB 2017 0 0 1 11 51                         17.5 Auburn
                      2014 3 Phillip Gaines 87 DB 2017 0 0 0 5 39                       1   Rice
                      2014 4 De'Anthony Thomas 124 RB 2017 0 0 0 6 46           28 180 2 59 468 3     Oregon
                      2014 5 Aaron Murray 163 QB   0 0 0                               Georgia
                      2014 6 Zach Fulton 193 G 2017 0 0 2 16 60                           Tennessee
                      2014 6 Laurent Duvernay-Tardif 200 OL 2017 0 0 3 13 38                           McGill
                      Year Rnd Player Pick Pos To AP1 PB St CarAV G Cmp Att Yds TD Int Att Yds TD Rec Yds TD Int Sk College/Univ
                      2013 1 Eric Fisher 1 T 2017 0 0 5 27 74                 0 -5 0     Central Michigan
                      2013 3 Travis Kelce 63 TE 2017 1 2 4 27 61 0 1 0 0 1 3 2 0 290 3733 21     Cincinnati
                      2013 3 Knile Davis 96 RB 2016 0 0 0 10 57           250 805 11 34 271 1     Arkansas
                      2013 4 Nico Johnson 99 LB 2015 0 0 0 3 18                           Alabama
                      2013 5 Sanders Commings 134 DB 2013 0 0 0 0 2                           Georgia
                      2013 6 Eric Kush 170 C 2016 0 0 0 3 18                           California (PA)
                      2013 6 Braden Wilson 204 FB   0 0 0                               Kansas St.
                      2013 7 Mike Catapano 207 DE 2016 0 0 0 3 29                         2.0 Princeton
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                      tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
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                      @tour2ma said:

                      Here are his drafts 2013 - 2016:

                      Year Rnd Player Pick Pos To AP1 PB St CarAV G Cmp Att Yds TD Int Att Yds TD Rec Yds TD Int Sk College/Univ
                      2016 2 Chris Jones 37 DT 2017 0 0 2 6 28                       1 5.5 Mississippi St.
                      2016 3 KeiVarae Russell 74 CB 2017 0 0 0 1 11                       1   Notre Dame
                      2016 4 Parker Ehinger 105 G 2016 0 0 0 2 5                           Cincinnati
                      2016 4 Eric Murray 106 CB 2017 0 0 0 1 27                           Minnesota
                      2016 4 Demarcus Robinson 126 WR 2017 0 0 1 0 28                 17 181 0     Florida
                      2016 5 Kevin Hogan 162 QB 2017 0 0 0 1 8 60 101 621 4 7 18 176 1           Stanford
                      2016 5 Tyreek Hill 165 WR 2017 1 1 1 10 28 0 1 0 0 1 40 327 3 121 1504 12     West Alabama
                      2016 6 D.J. White 178 CB 2016 0 0 0 1 11                       1   Georgia Tech
                      2016 6 Dadi Nicolas 203 DE 2016 0 0 0 1 11                           Virginia Tech
                      Year Rnd Player Pick Pos To AP1 PB St CarAV G Cmp Att Yds TD Int Att Yds TD Rec Yds TD Int Sk College/Univ
                      2015 1 Marcus Peters 18 CB 2017 1 2 3 23 43                       17   Washington
                      2015 2 Mitch Morse 49 G 2017 0 0 3 15 38                           Missouri
                      2015 3 Chris Conley 76 WR 2017 0 0 1 7 37                 72 904 1     Georgia
                      2015 3 Steven Nelson 98 CB 2017 0 0 1 6 32                           Oregon St.
                      2015 4 Ramik Wilson 118 ILB 2017 0 0 1 9 29                       1   Georgia
                      2015 5 D.J. Alexander 172 OLB 2017 0 1 0 5 42                           Oregon St.
                      2015 5 James O'Shaughnessy 173 TE 2017 0 0 0 1 35                 16 181 0     Illinois St.
                      2015 6 Rakeem Nunez-Roches 217 DT 2017 0 0 1 4 30                         1.5 Southern Miss
                      2015 7 Da'Ron Brown 233 WR   0 0 0                               Northern Illinois
                      Year Rnd Player Pick Pos To AP1 PB St CarAV G Cmp Att Yds TD Int Att Yds TD Rec Yds TD Int Sk College/Univ
                      2014 1 Dee Ford 23 LB 2017 0 0 1 11 51                         17.5 Auburn
                      2014 3 Phillip Gaines 87 DB 2017 0 0 0 5 39                       1   Rice
                      2014 4 De'Anthony Thomas 124 RB 2017 0 0 0 6 46           28 180 2 59 468 3     Oregon
                      2014 5 Aaron Murray 163 QB   0 0 0                               Georgia
                      2014 6 Zach Fulton 193 G 2017 0 0 2 16 60                           Tennessee
                      2014 6 Laurent Duvernay-Tardif 200 OL 2017 0 0 3 13 38                           McGill
                      Year Rnd Player Pick Pos To AP1 PB St CarAV G Cmp Att Yds TD Int Att Yds TD Rec Yds TD Int Sk College/Univ
                      2013 1 Eric Fisher 1 T 2017 0 0 5 27 74                 0 -5 0     Central Michigan
                      2013 3 Travis Kelce 63 TE 2017 1 2 4 27 61 0 1 0 0 1 3 2 0 290 3733 21     Cincinnati
                      2013 3 Knile Davis 96 RB 2016 0 0 0 10 57           250 805 11 34 271 1     Arkansas
                      2013 4 Nico Johnson 99 LB 2015 0 0 0 3 18                           Alabama
                      2013 5 Sanders Commings 134 DB 2013 0 0 0 0 2                           Georgia
                      2013 6 Eric Kush 170 C 2016 0 0 0 3 18                           California (PA)
                      2013 6 Braden Wilson 204 FB   0 0 0                               Kansas St.
                      2013 7 Mike Catapano 207 DE 2016 0 0 0 3 29                         2.0 Princeton

                      Not  terribly impressive, though he did at least land Kelce, Peters, Morse, Conley, Hill, Jones and I guess toss in Ford.  

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                        Here are his drafts 2013 - 2016:

                        Year Rnd Player Pick Pos To AP1 PB St CarAV G Cmp Att Yds TD Int Att Yds TD Rec Yds TD Int Sk College/Univ
                        2016 2 Chris Jones 37 DT 2017 0 0 2 6 28                       1 5.5 Mississippi St.
                        2016 3 KeiVarae Russell 74 CB 2017 0 0 0 1 11                       1   Notre Dame
                        2016 4 Parker Ehinger 105 G 2016 0 0 0 2 5                           Cincinnati
                        2016 4 Eric Murray 106 CB 2017 0 0 0 1 27                           Minnesota
                        2016 4 Demarcus Robinson 126 WR 2017 0 0 1 0 28                 17 181 0     Florida
                        2016 5 Kevin Hogan 162 QB 2017 0 0 0 1 8 60 101 621 4 7 18 176 1           Stanford
                        2016 5 Tyreek Hill 165 WR 2017 1 1 1 10 28 0 1 0 0 1 40 327 3 121 1504 12     West Alabama
                        2016 6 D.J. White 178 CB 2016 0 0 0 1 11                       1   Georgia Tech
                        2016 6 Dadi Nicolas 203 DE 2016 0 0 0 1 11                           Virginia Tech
                        Year Rnd Player Pick Pos To AP1 PB St CarAV G Cmp Att Yds TD Int Att Yds TD Rec Yds TD Int Sk College/Univ
                        2015 1 Marcus Peters 18 CB 2017 1 2 3 23 43                       17   Washington
                        2015 2 Mitch Morse 49 G 2017 0 0 3 15 38                           Missouri
                        2015 3 Chris Conley 76 WR 2017 0 0 1 7 37                 72 904 1     Georgia
                        2015 3 Steven Nelson 98 CB 2017 0 0 1 6 32                           Oregon St.
                        2015 4 Ramik Wilson 118 ILB 2017 0 0 1 9 29                       1   Georgia
                        2015 5 D.J. Alexander 172 OLB 2017 0 1 0 5 42                           Oregon St.
                        2015 5 James O'Shaughnessy 173 TE 2017 0 0 0 1 35                 16 181 0     Illinois St.
                        2015 6 Rakeem Nunez-Roches 217 DT 2017 0 0 1 4 30                         1.5 Southern Miss
                        2015 7 Da'Ron Brown 233 WR   0 0 0                               Northern Illinois
                        Year Rnd Player Pick Pos To AP1 PB St CarAV G Cmp Att Yds TD Int Att Yds TD Rec Yds TD Int Sk College/Univ
                        2014 1 Dee Ford 23 LB 2017 0 0 1 11 51                         17.5 Auburn
                        2014 3 Phillip Gaines 87 DB 2017 0 0 0 5 39                       1   Rice
                        2014 4 De'Anthony Thomas 124 RB 2017 0 0 0 6 46           28 180 2 59 468 3     Oregon
                        2014 5 Aaron Murray 163 QB   0 0 0                               Georgia
                        2014 6 Zach Fulton 193 G 2017 0 0 2 16 60                           Tennessee
                        2014 6 Laurent Duvernay-Tardif 200 OL 2017 0 0 3 13 38                           McGill
                        Year Rnd Player Pick Pos To AP1 PB St CarAV G Cmp Att Yds TD Int Att Yds TD Rec Yds TD Int Sk College/Univ
                        2013 1 Eric Fisher 1 T 2017 0 0 5 27 74                 0 -5 0     Central Michigan
                        2013 3 Travis Kelce 63 TE 2017 1 2 4 27 61 0 1 0 0 1 3 2 0 290 3733 21     Cincinnati
                        2013 3 Knile Davis 96 RB 2016 0 0 0 10 57           250 805 11 34 271 1     Arkansas
                        2013 4 Nico Johnson 99 LB 2015 0 0 0 3 18                           Alabama
                        2013 5 Sanders Commings 134 DB 2013 0 0 0 0 2                           Georgia
                        2013 6 Eric Kush 170 C 2016 0 0 0 3 18                           California (PA)
                        2013 6 Braden Wilson 204 FB   0 0 0                               Kansas St.
                        2013 7 Mike Catapano 207 DE 2016 0 0 0 3 29                         2.0 Princeton
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                        @tour2ma said:

                        Here are his drafts 2013 - 2016:

                        Year Rnd Player Pick Pos To AP1 PB St CarAV G Cmp Att Yds TD Int Att Yds TD Rec Yds TD Int Sk College/Univ
                        2016 2 Chris Jones 37 DT 2017 0 0 2 6 28                       1 5.5 Mississippi St.
                        2016 3 KeiVarae Russell 74 CB 2017 0 0 0 1 11                       1   Notre Dame
                        2016 4 Parker Ehinger 105 G 2016 0 0 0 2 5                           Cincinnati
                        2016 4 Eric Murray 106 CB 2017 0 0 0 1 27                           Minnesota
                        2016 4 Demarcus Robinson 126 WR 2017 0 0 1 0 28                 17 181 0     Florida
                        2016 5 Kevin Hogan 162 QB 2017 0 0 0 1 8 60 101 621 4 7 18 176 1           Stanford
                        2016 5 Tyreek Hill 165 WR 2017 1 1 1 10 28 0 1 0 0 1 40 327 3 121 1504 12     West Alabama
                        2016 6 D.J. White 178 CB 2016 0 0 0 1 11                       1   Georgia Tech
                        2016 6 Dadi Nicolas 203 DE 2016 0 0 0 1 11                           Virginia Tech
                        Year Rnd Player Pick Pos To AP1 PB St CarAV G Cmp Att Yds TD Int Att Yds TD Rec Yds TD Int Sk College/Univ
                        2015 1 Marcus Peters 18 CB 2017 1 2 3 23 43                       17   Washington
                        2015 2 Mitch Morse 49 G 2017 0 0 3 15 38                           Missouri
                        2015 3 Chris Conley 76 WR 2017 0 0 1 7 37                 72 904 1     Georgia
                        2015 3 Steven Nelson 98 CB 2017 0 0 1 6 32                           Oregon St.
                        2015 4 Ramik Wilson 118 ILB 2017 0 0 1 9 29                       1   Georgia
                        2015 5 D.J. Alexander 172 OLB 2017 0 1 0 5 42                           Oregon St.
                        2015 5 James O'Shaughnessy 173 TE 2017 0 0 0 1 35                 16 181 0     Illinois St.
                        2015 6 Rakeem Nunez-Roches 217 DT 2017 0 0 1 4 30                         1.5 Southern Miss
                        2015 7 Da'Ron Brown 233 WR   0 0 0                               Northern Illinois
                        Year Rnd Player Pick Pos To AP1 PB St CarAV G Cmp Att Yds TD Int Att Yds TD Rec Yds TD Int Sk College/Univ
                        2014 1 Dee Ford 23 LB 2017 0 0 1 11 51                         17.5 Auburn
                        2014 3 Phillip Gaines 87 DB 2017 0 0 0 5 39                       1   Rice
                        2014 4 De'Anthony Thomas 124 RB 2017 0 0 0 6 46           28 180 2 59 468 3     Oregon
                        2014 5 Aaron Murray 163 QB   0 0 0                               Georgia
                        2014 6 Zach Fulton 193 G 2017 0 0 2 16 60                           Tennessee
                        2014 6 Laurent Duvernay-Tardif 200 OL 2017 0 0 3 13 38                           McGill
                        Year Rnd Player Pick Pos To AP1 PB St CarAV G Cmp Att Yds TD Int Att Yds TD Rec Yds TD Int Sk College/Univ
                        2013 1 Eric Fisher 1 T 2017 0 0 5 27 74                 0 -5 0     Central Michigan
                        2013 3 Travis Kelce 63 TE 2017 1 2 4 27 61 0 1 0 0 1 3 2 0 290 3733 21     Cincinnati
                        2013 3 Knile Davis 96 RB 2016 0 0 0 10 57           250 805 11 34 271 1     Arkansas
                        2013 4 Nico Johnson 99 LB 2015 0 0 0 3 18                           Alabama
                        2013 5 Sanders Commings 134 DB 2013 0 0 0 0 2                           Georgia
                        2013 6 Eric Kush 170 C 2016 0 0 0 3 18                           California (PA)
                        2013 6 Braden Wilson 204 FB   0 0 0                               Kansas St.
                        2013 7 Mike Catapano 207 DE 2016 0 0 0 3 29                         2.0 Princeton

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                          @tour2ma said:

                          Here are his drafts 2013 - 2016:

                          Year Rnd Player Pick Pos To AP1 PB St CarAV G Cmp Att Yds TD Int Att Yds TD Rec Yds TD Int Sk College/Univ
                          2016 2 Chris Jones 37 DT 2017 0 0 2 6 28                       1 5.5 Mississippi St.
                          2016 3 KeiVarae Russell 74 CB 2017 0 0 0 1 11                       1   Notre Dame
                          2016 4 Parker Ehinger 105 G 2016 0 0 0 2 5                           Cincinnati
                          2016 4 Eric Murray 106 CB 2017 0 0 0 1 27                           Minnesota
                          2016 4 Demarcus Robinson 126 WR 2017 0 0 1 0 28                 17 181 0     Florida
                          2016 5 Kevin Hogan 162 QB 2017 0 0 0 1 8 60 101 621 4 7 18 176 1           Stanford
                          2016 5 Tyreek Hill 165 WR 2017 1 1 1 10 28 0 1 0 0 1 40 327 3 121 1504 12     West Alabama
                          2016 6 D.J. White 178 CB 2016 0 0 0 1 11                       1   Georgia Tech
                          2016 6 Dadi Nicolas 203 DE 2016 0 0 0 1 11                           Virginia Tech
                          Year Rnd Player Pick Pos To AP1 PB St CarAV G Cmp Att Yds TD Int Att Yds TD Rec Yds TD Int Sk College/Univ
                          2015 1 Marcus Peters 18 CB 2017 1 2 3 23 43                       17   Washington
                          2015 2 Mitch Morse 49 G 2017 0 0 3 15 38                           Missouri
                          2015 3 Chris Conley 76 WR 2017 0 0 1 7 37                 72 904 1     Georgia
                          2015 3 Steven Nelson 98 CB 2017 0 0 1 6 32                           Oregon St.
                          2015 4 Ramik Wilson 118 ILB 2017 0 0 1 9 29                       1   Georgia
                          2015 5 D.J. Alexander 172 OLB 2017 0 1 0 5 42                           Oregon St.
                          2015 5 James O'Shaughnessy 173 TE 2017 0 0 0 1 35                 16 181 0     Illinois St.
                          2015 6 Rakeem Nunez-Roches 217 DT 2017 0 0 1 4 30                         1.5 Southern Miss
                          2015 7 Da'Ron Brown 233 WR   0 0 0                               Northern Illinois
                          Year Rnd Player Pick Pos To AP1 PB St CarAV G Cmp Att Yds TD Int Att Yds TD Rec Yds TD Int Sk College/Univ
                          2014 1 Dee Ford 23 LB 2017 0 0 1 11 51                         17.5 Auburn
                          2014 3 Phillip Gaines 87 DB 2017 0 0 0 5 39                       1   Rice
                          2014 4 De'Anthony Thomas 124 RB 2017 0 0 0 6 46           28 180 2 59 468 3     Oregon
                          2014 5 Aaron Murray 163 QB   0 0 0                               Georgia
                          2014 6 Zach Fulton 193 G 2017 0 0 2 16 60                           Tennessee
                          2014 6 Laurent Duvernay-Tardif 200 OL 2017 0 0 3 13 38                           McGill
                          Year Rnd Player Pick Pos To AP1 PB St CarAV G Cmp Att Yds TD Int Att Yds TD Rec Yds TD Int Sk College/Univ
                          2013 1 Eric Fisher 1 T 2017 0 0 5 27 74                 0 -5 0     Central Michigan
                          2013 3 Travis Kelce 63 TE 2017 1 2 4 27 61 0 1 0 0 1 3 2 0 290 3733 21     Cincinnati
                          2013 3 Knile Davis 96 RB 2016 0 0 0 10 57           250 805 11 34 271 1     Arkansas
                          2013 4 Nico Johnson 99 LB 2015 0 0 0 3 18                           Alabama
                          2013 5 Sanders Commings 134 DB 2013 0 0 0 0 2                           Georgia
                          2013 6 Eric Kush 170 C 2016 0 0 0 3 18                           California (PA)
                          2013 6 Braden Wilson 204 FB   0 0 0                               Kansas St.
                          2013 7 Mike Catapano 207 DE 2016 0 0 0 3 29                         2.0 Princeton

                          He drafted Kevin Hogan -> He's a genius

                          Let's sign him NOW!

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                          The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by hoorta
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                          @nero said:

                          He drafted Kevin Hogan -> He's a genius

                          Let's sign him NOW!

                          Jesus, People usually fall in love with the guys they draft....at least they feel some loyalty to them.  So, does this mean that Hogan sticks around?

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                            @nero said:

                            He drafted Kevin Hogan -> He's a genius

                            Let's sign him NOW!

                            Jesus, People usually fall in love with the guys they draft....at least they feel some loyalty to them.  So, does this mean that Hogan sticks around?

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                            @the-gipper said:

                            Jesus, People usually fall in love with the guys they draft....at least they feel some loyalty to them.  So, does this mean that Hogan sticks around?

                            He did cut him so there is that.

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                              @nero said:

                              He drafted Kevin Hogan -> He's a genius

                              Let's sign him NOW!

                              Jesus, People usually fall in love with the guys they draft....at least they feel some loyalty to them.  So, does this mean that Hogan sticks around?

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                              @the-gipper said:

                              Jesus, People usually fall in love with the guys they draft....at least they feel some loyalty to them.  So, does this mean that Hogan sticks around?

                              Hogan got kicked in one year, let's hope not. 

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                                Do we know the status of McCarron's suit to become an unrestricted FA?  Didn't his agent file a complaint against the NFL after the trade with us didn't go through?

                                http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/21286767/aj-mccarron-files-grievance-vs-cincinnati-bengals-wants-unrestricted-free-agent-2018

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                                Do we know the status of McCarron's suit to become an unrestricted FA?  Didn't his agent file a complaint against the NFL after the trade with us didn't go through?

                                http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/21286767/aj-mccarron-files-grievance-vs-cincinnati-bengals-wants-unrestricted-free-agent-2018

                                As I said in another thread- depends if he wins his grievance or not. UFA- maybe. RFA, and the Bengals slap a first round tender on him? No way in hell. Even Hue (at least I hope) isn't crack headed enough to give up the #1 overall (or at the very worst the #3) for McCarron. 

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                                He drafted Kevin Hogan -> He's a genius

                                Let's sign him NOW!

                                ^^^ LOL!!!!!  

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                                  @tour2ma said:

                                  Here are his drafts 2013 - 2016:

                                  Year Rnd Player Pick Pos To AP1 PB St CarAV G Cmp Att Yds TD Int Att Yds TD Rec Yds TD Int Sk College/Univ
                                  2016 2 Chris Jones 37 DT 2017 0 0 2 6 28                       1 5.5 Mississippi St.
                                  2016 3 KeiVarae Russell 74 CB 2017 0 0 0 1 11                       1   Notre Dame
                                  2016 4 Parker Ehinger 105 G 2016 0 0 0 2 5                           Cincinnati
                                  2016 4 Eric Murray 106 CB 2017 0 0 0 1 27                           Minnesota
                                  2016 4 Demarcus Robinson 126 WR 2017 0 0 1 0 28                 17 181 0     Florida
                                  2016 5 Kevin Hogan 162 QB 2017 0 0 0 1 8 60 101 621 4 7 18 176 1           Stanford
                                  2016 5 Tyreek Hill 165 WR 2017 1 1 1 10 28 0 1 0 0 1 40 327 3 121 1504 12     West Alabama
                                  2016 6 D.J. White 178 CB 2016 0 0 0 1 11                       1   Georgia Tech
                                  2016 6 Dadi Nicolas 203 DE 2016 0 0 0 1 11                           Virginia Tech
                                  Year Rnd Player Pick Pos To AP1 PB St CarAV G Cmp Att Yds TD Int Att Yds TD Rec Yds TD Int Sk College/Univ
                                  2015 1 Marcus Peters 18 CB 2017 1 2 3 23 43                       17   Washington
                                  2015 2 Mitch Morse 49 G 2017 0 0 3 15 38                           Missouri
                                  2015 3 Chris Conley 76 WR 2017 0 0 1 7 37                 72 904 1     Georgia
                                  2015 3 Steven Nelson 98 CB 2017 0 0 1 6 32                           Oregon St.
                                  2015 4 Ramik Wilson 118 ILB 2017 0 0 1 9 29                       1   Georgia
                                  2015 5 D.J. Alexander 172 OLB 2017 0 1 0 5 42                           Oregon St.
                                  2015 5 James O'Shaughnessy 173 TE 2017 0 0 0 1 35                 16 181 0     Illinois St.
                                  2015 6 Rakeem Nunez-Roches 217 DT 2017 0 0 1 4 30                         1.5 Southern Miss
                                  2015 7 Da'Ron Brown 233 WR   0 0 0                               Northern Illinois
                                  Year Rnd Player Pick Pos To AP1 PB St CarAV G Cmp Att Yds TD Int Att Yds TD Rec Yds TD Int Sk College/Univ
                                  2014 1 Dee Ford 23 LB 2017 0 0 1 11 51                         17.5 Auburn
                                  2014 3 Phillip Gaines 87 DB 2017 0 0 0 5 39                       1   Rice
                                  2014 4 De'Anthony Thomas 124 RB 2017 0 0 0 6 46           28 180 2 59 468 3     Oregon
                                  2014 5 Aaron Murray 163 QB   0 0 0                               Georgia
                                  2014 6 Zach Fulton 193 G 2017 0 0 2 16 60                           Tennessee
                                  2014 6 Laurent Duvernay-Tardif 200 OL 2017 0 0 3 13 38                           McGill
                                  Year Rnd Player Pick Pos To AP1 PB St CarAV G Cmp Att Yds TD Int Att Yds TD Rec Yds TD Int Sk College/Univ
                                  2013 1 Eric Fisher 1 T 2017 0 0 5 27 74                 0 -5 0     Central Michigan
                                  2013 3 Travis Kelce 63 TE 2017 1 2 4 27 61 0 1 0 0 1 3 2 0 290 3733 21     Cincinnati
                                  2013 3 Knile Davis 96 RB 2016 0 0 0 10 57           250 805 11 34 271 1     Arkansas
                                  2013 4 Nico Johnson 99 LB 2015 0 0 0 3 18                           Alabama
                                  2013 5 Sanders Commings 134 DB 2013 0 0 0 0 2                           Georgia
                                  2013 6 Eric Kush 170 C 2016 0 0 0 3 18                           California (PA)
                                  2013 6 Braden Wilson 204 FB   0 0 0                               Kansas St.
                                  2013 7 Mike Catapano 207 DE 2016 0 0 0 3 29                         2.0 Princeton

                                  He drafted Kevin Hogan -> He's a genius

                                  Let's sign him NOW!

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                                  W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by
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                                  @nero said:

                                  He drafted Kevin Hogan -> He's a genius

                                  Let's sign him NOW!

                                  Po will pay part of his salary!

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                                    Yes to  UConn's John Dorsey.  Go Huskies!!!

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                                      The owner has guaranteed the 1-27 HC his job a month after trying to sign hs QB of choice. 

                                      Any GM that now arrives is nothing but a patsy to the head coach. He may as well not even be here. 

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                                        @the-gipper said:

                                        It has been rumored that there are some GM/coach "package" deals that may be out there:

                                        Pioli and Vrabel

                                        Caserio and McDaniels.

                                        Point is, these would be GMs/coaches that would be in sync.    Dorsey and Hue however?   Someone used the term:  shotgun marriage.

                                        Sounds like Hue has convinced Jimmy he can coach, he just needs better players. 

                                        Whoever they hire will agree to Hue as coach for 2018, and if the season goes south next year, Hue will be gone and the GM can hand pick his new coach.

                                        Winning in 2018 will make a shotgun wedding work.

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                                        @adoug319 said:

                                        Sounds like Hue has convinced Jimmy he can coach, he just needs better players. 

                                        Whoever they hire will agree to Hue as coach for 2018, and if the season goes south next year, Hue will be gone and the GM can hand pick his new coach.

                                        Winning in 2018 will make a shotgun wedding work.

                                        That or this is Holmgren/Heckert/Mangini all over again, and a season is wasted with a new front office keeping the existing head coach that was inevitably fired... We'll see...

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                                          The owner has guaranteed the 1-27 HC his job a month after trying to sign hs QB of choice. 

                                          Any GM that now arrives is nothing but a patsy to the head coach. He may as well not even be here. 

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                                          LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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                                          @londonbrown said:

                                          The owner has guaranteed the 1-27 HC his job a month after trying to sign hs QB of choice. 

                                          Any GM that now arrives is nothing but a patsy to the head coach. He may as well not even be here. 

                                          I must have missed it. Show the article where Haslem said Hue will get McCarron no matter what? Not being snarky. I just haven’t seen anything to that effect.

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