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  • A Adoug319

    @the-gipper said:

    It has been rumored that there are some GM/coach "package" deals that may be out there:

    Pioli and Vrabel

    Caserio and McDaniels.

    Point is, these would be GMs/coaches that would be in sync.    Dorsey and Hue however?   Someone used the term:  shotgun marriage.

    Sounds like Hue has convinced Jimmy he can coach, he just needs better players. 

    Whoever they hire will agree to Hue as coach for 2018, and if the season goes south next year, Hue will be gone and the GM can hand pick his new coach.

    Winning in 2018 will make a shotgun wedding work.

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    @adoug319 said:

    Sounds like Hue has convinced Jimmy he can coach, he just needs better players. 

    Whoever they hire will agree to Hue as coach for 2018, and if the season goes south next year, Hue will be gone and the GM can hand pick his new coach.

    Winning in 2018 will make a shotgun wedding work.

    Ok so if all the players suck (supposedly)... How is keeping hue gonna get them to buy into a program that they clearly have not bought into...???

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      @adoug319 said:

      Sounds like Hue has convinced Jimmy he can coach, he just needs better players. 

      Whoever they hire will agree to Hue as coach for 2018, and if the season goes south next year, Hue will be gone and the GM can hand pick his new coach.

      Winning in 2018 will make a shotgun wedding work.

      Ok so if all the players suck (supposedly)... How is keeping hue gonna get them to buy into a program that they clearly have not bought into...???

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      A Adoug319 wrote on last edited by Adoug319
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      @nickers said:

      Ok so if all the players suck (supposedly)... How is keeping hue gonna get them to buy into a program that they clearly have not bought into...???

      I’m not saying I agree or disagree, I’m just attempting to read between the lines.

      To answer your question, I believe Hue wants a competent QB who could win now (McCarron) while a younger QB who clearly isn’t ready (Kizer) could learn. Hue clearly lamented the botched trade, and according to MKC, Sashi and Hue haven’t been on speaking terms since then.

      https://mobile.twitter.com/BenAxelrod/status/938805530230951936

      The power struggle between Hue and Sashi was over when we saw Hue and Jimmy talking to AJ McCarron before the Bengals game.

      My guess is we sign AJ in the offseason and he starts. We draft a QB #1. He and Kizer fight it out for 2nd and 3rd string.

      Hue has an experienced QB, no excuses for losing. If we go 6-10 or better, everyone is happy.

      If not, the new GM picks a coach he wants for 2019.

      Thats what I see 

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        jiggins7919J jiggins7919 wrote on last edited by jiggins7919
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        Do we know the status of McCarron's suit to become an unrestricted FA?  Didn't his agent file a complaint against the NFL after the trade with us didn't go through?

        http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/21286767/aj-mccarron-files-grievance-vs-cincinnati-bengals-wants-unrestricted-free-agent-2018

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        • Tour2maT Tour2ma

          Here are his drafts 2013 - 2016:

          Year Rnd Player Pick Pos To AP1 PB St CarAV G Cmp Att Yds TD Int Att Yds TD Rec Yds TD Int Sk College/Univ
          2016 2 Chris Jones 37 DT 2017 0 0 2 6 28                       1 5.5 Mississippi St.
          2016 3 KeiVarae Russell 74 CB 2017 0 0 0 1 11                       1   Notre Dame
          2016 4 Parker Ehinger 105 G 2016 0 0 0 2 5                           Cincinnati
          2016 4 Eric Murray 106 CB 2017 0 0 0 1 27                           Minnesota
          2016 4 Demarcus Robinson 126 WR 2017 0 0 1 0 28                 17 181 0     Florida
          2016 5 Kevin Hogan 162 QB 2017 0 0 0 1 8 60 101 621 4 7 18 176 1           Stanford
          2016 5 Tyreek Hill 165 WR 2017 1 1 1 10 28 0 1 0 0 1 40 327 3 121 1504 12     West Alabama
          2016 6 D.J. White 178 CB 2016 0 0 0 1 11                       1   Georgia Tech
          2016 6 Dadi Nicolas 203 DE 2016 0 0 0 1 11                           Virginia Tech
          Year Rnd Player Pick Pos To AP1 PB St CarAV G Cmp Att Yds TD Int Att Yds TD Rec Yds TD Int Sk College/Univ
          2015 1 Marcus Peters 18 CB 2017 1 2 3 23 43                       17   Washington
          2015 2 Mitch Morse 49 G 2017 0 0 3 15 38                           Missouri
          2015 3 Chris Conley 76 WR 2017 0 0 1 7 37                 72 904 1     Georgia
          2015 3 Steven Nelson 98 CB 2017 0 0 1 6 32                           Oregon St.
          2015 4 Ramik Wilson 118 ILB 2017 0 0 1 9 29                       1   Georgia
          2015 5 D.J. Alexander 172 OLB 2017 0 1 0 5 42                           Oregon St.
          2015 5 James O'Shaughnessy 173 TE 2017 0 0 0 1 35                 16 181 0     Illinois St.
          2015 6 Rakeem Nunez-Roches 217 DT 2017 0 0 1 4 30                         1.5 Southern Miss
          2015 7 Da'Ron Brown 233 WR   0 0 0                               Northern Illinois
          Year Rnd Player Pick Pos To AP1 PB St CarAV G Cmp Att Yds TD Int Att Yds TD Rec Yds TD Int Sk College/Univ
          2014 1 Dee Ford 23 LB 2017 0 0 1 11 51                         17.5 Auburn
          2014 3 Phillip Gaines 87 DB 2017 0 0 0 5 39                       1   Rice
          2014 4 De'Anthony Thomas 124 RB 2017 0 0 0 6 46           28 180 2 59 468 3     Oregon
          2014 5 Aaron Murray 163 QB   0 0 0                               Georgia
          2014 6 Zach Fulton 193 G 2017 0 0 2 16 60                           Tennessee
          2014 6 Laurent Duvernay-Tardif 200 OL 2017 0 0 3 13 38                           McGill
          Year Rnd Player Pick Pos To AP1 PB St CarAV G Cmp Att Yds TD Int Att Yds TD Rec Yds TD Int Sk College/Univ
          2013 1 Eric Fisher 1 T 2017 0 0 5 27 74                 0 -5 0     Central Michigan
          2013 3 Travis Kelce 63 TE 2017 1 2 4 27 61 0 1 0 0 1 3 2 0 290 3733 21     Cincinnati
          2013 3 Knile Davis 96 RB 2016 0 0 0 10 57           250 805 11 34 271 1     Arkansas
          2013 4 Nico Johnson 99 LB 2015 0 0 0 3 18                           Alabama
          2013 5 Sanders Commings 134 DB 2013 0 0 0 0 2                           Georgia
          2013 6 Eric Kush 170 C 2016 0 0 0 3 18                           California (PA)
          2013 6 Braden Wilson 204 FB   0 0 0                               Kansas St.
          2013 7 Mike Catapano 207 DE 2016 0 0 0 3 29                         2.0 Princeton
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          @tour2ma said:

          Here are his drafts 2013 - 2016:

          Year Rnd Player Pick Pos To AP1 PB St CarAV G Cmp Att Yds TD Int Att Yds TD Rec Yds TD Int Sk College/Univ
          2016 2 Chris Jones 37 DT 2017 0 0 2 6 28                       1 5.5 Mississippi St.
          2016 3 KeiVarae Russell 74 CB 2017 0 0 0 1 11                       1   Notre Dame
          2016 4 Parker Ehinger 105 G 2016 0 0 0 2 5                           Cincinnati
          2016 4 Eric Murray 106 CB 2017 0 0 0 1 27                           Minnesota
          2016 4 Demarcus Robinson 126 WR 2017 0 0 1 0 28                 17 181 0     Florida
          2016 5 Kevin Hogan 162 QB 2017 0 0 0 1 8 60 101 621 4 7 18 176 1           Stanford
          2016 5 Tyreek Hill 165 WR 2017 1 1 1 10 28 0 1 0 0 1 40 327 3 121 1504 12     West Alabama
          2016 6 D.J. White 178 CB 2016 0 0 0 1 11                       1   Georgia Tech
          2016 6 Dadi Nicolas 203 DE 2016 0 0 0 1 11                           Virginia Tech
          Year Rnd Player Pick Pos To AP1 PB St CarAV G Cmp Att Yds TD Int Att Yds TD Rec Yds TD Int Sk College/Univ
          2015 1 Marcus Peters 18 CB 2017 1 2 3 23 43                       17   Washington
          2015 2 Mitch Morse 49 G 2017 0 0 3 15 38                           Missouri
          2015 3 Chris Conley 76 WR 2017 0 0 1 7 37                 72 904 1     Georgia
          2015 3 Steven Nelson 98 CB 2017 0 0 1 6 32                           Oregon St.
          2015 4 Ramik Wilson 118 ILB 2017 0 0 1 9 29                       1   Georgia
          2015 5 D.J. Alexander 172 OLB 2017 0 1 0 5 42                           Oregon St.
          2015 5 James O'Shaughnessy 173 TE 2017 0 0 0 1 35                 16 181 0     Illinois St.
          2015 6 Rakeem Nunez-Roches 217 DT 2017 0 0 1 4 30                         1.5 Southern Miss
          2015 7 Da'Ron Brown 233 WR   0 0 0                               Northern Illinois
          Year Rnd Player Pick Pos To AP1 PB St CarAV G Cmp Att Yds TD Int Att Yds TD Rec Yds TD Int Sk College/Univ
          2014 1 Dee Ford 23 LB 2017 0 0 1 11 51                         17.5 Auburn
          2014 3 Phillip Gaines 87 DB 2017 0 0 0 5 39                       1   Rice
          2014 4 De'Anthony Thomas 124 RB 2017 0 0 0 6 46           28 180 2 59 468 3     Oregon
          2014 5 Aaron Murray 163 QB   0 0 0                               Georgia
          2014 6 Zach Fulton 193 G 2017 0 0 2 16 60                           Tennessee
          2014 6 Laurent Duvernay-Tardif 200 OL 2017 0 0 3 13 38                           McGill
          Year Rnd Player Pick Pos To AP1 PB St CarAV G Cmp Att Yds TD Int Att Yds TD Rec Yds TD Int Sk College/Univ
          2013 1 Eric Fisher 1 T 2017 0 0 5 27 74                 0 -5 0     Central Michigan
          2013 3 Travis Kelce 63 TE 2017 1 2 4 27 61 0 1 0 0 1 3 2 0 290 3733 21     Cincinnati
          2013 3 Knile Davis 96 RB 2016 0 0 0 10 57           250 805 11 34 271 1     Arkansas
          2013 4 Nico Johnson 99 LB 2015 0 0 0 3 18                           Alabama
          2013 5 Sanders Commings 134 DB 2013 0 0 0 0 2                           Georgia
          2013 6 Eric Kush 170 C 2016 0 0 0 3 18                           California (PA)
          2013 6 Braden Wilson 204 FB   0 0 0                               Kansas St.
          2013 7 Mike Catapano 207 DE 2016 0 0 0 3 29                         2.0 Princeton

          Not  terribly impressive, though he did at least land Kelce, Peters, Morse, Conley, Hill, Jones and I guess toss in Ford.  

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            Here are his drafts 2013 - 2016:

            Year Rnd Player Pick Pos To AP1 PB St CarAV G Cmp Att Yds TD Int Att Yds TD Rec Yds TD Int Sk College/Univ
            2016 2 Chris Jones 37 DT 2017 0 0 2 6 28                       1 5.5 Mississippi St.
            2016 3 KeiVarae Russell 74 CB 2017 0 0 0 1 11                       1   Notre Dame
            2016 4 Parker Ehinger 105 G 2016 0 0 0 2 5                           Cincinnati
            2016 4 Eric Murray 106 CB 2017 0 0 0 1 27                           Minnesota
            2016 4 Demarcus Robinson 126 WR 2017 0 0 1 0 28                 17 181 0     Florida
            2016 5 Kevin Hogan 162 QB 2017 0 0 0 1 8 60 101 621 4 7 18 176 1           Stanford
            2016 5 Tyreek Hill 165 WR 2017 1 1 1 10 28 0 1 0 0 1 40 327 3 121 1504 12     West Alabama
            2016 6 D.J. White 178 CB 2016 0 0 0 1 11                       1   Georgia Tech
            2016 6 Dadi Nicolas 203 DE 2016 0 0 0 1 11                           Virginia Tech
            Year Rnd Player Pick Pos To AP1 PB St CarAV G Cmp Att Yds TD Int Att Yds TD Rec Yds TD Int Sk College/Univ
            2015 1 Marcus Peters 18 CB 2017 1 2 3 23 43                       17   Washington
            2015 2 Mitch Morse 49 G 2017 0 0 3 15 38                           Missouri
            2015 3 Chris Conley 76 WR 2017 0 0 1 7 37                 72 904 1     Georgia
            2015 3 Steven Nelson 98 CB 2017 0 0 1 6 32                           Oregon St.
            2015 4 Ramik Wilson 118 ILB 2017 0 0 1 9 29                       1   Georgia
            2015 5 D.J. Alexander 172 OLB 2017 0 1 0 5 42                           Oregon St.
            2015 5 James O'Shaughnessy 173 TE 2017 0 0 0 1 35                 16 181 0     Illinois St.
            2015 6 Rakeem Nunez-Roches 217 DT 2017 0 0 1 4 30                         1.5 Southern Miss
            2015 7 Da'Ron Brown 233 WR   0 0 0                               Northern Illinois
            Year Rnd Player Pick Pos To AP1 PB St CarAV G Cmp Att Yds TD Int Att Yds TD Rec Yds TD Int Sk College/Univ
            2014 1 Dee Ford 23 LB 2017 0 0 1 11 51                         17.5 Auburn
            2014 3 Phillip Gaines 87 DB 2017 0 0 0 5 39                       1   Rice
            2014 4 De'Anthony Thomas 124 RB 2017 0 0 0 6 46           28 180 2 59 468 3     Oregon
            2014 5 Aaron Murray 163 QB   0 0 0                               Georgia
            2014 6 Zach Fulton 193 G 2017 0 0 2 16 60                           Tennessee
            2014 6 Laurent Duvernay-Tardif 200 OL 2017 0 0 3 13 38                           McGill
            Year Rnd Player Pick Pos To AP1 PB St CarAV G Cmp Att Yds TD Int Att Yds TD Rec Yds TD Int Sk College/Univ
            2013 1 Eric Fisher 1 T 2017 0 0 5 27 74                 0 -5 0     Central Michigan
            2013 3 Travis Kelce 63 TE 2017 1 2 4 27 61 0 1 0 0 1 3 2 0 290 3733 21     Cincinnati
            2013 3 Knile Davis 96 RB 2016 0 0 0 10 57           250 805 11 34 271 1     Arkansas
            2013 4 Nico Johnson 99 LB 2015 0 0 0 3 18                           Alabama
            2013 5 Sanders Commings 134 DB 2013 0 0 0 0 2                           Georgia
            2013 6 Eric Kush 170 C 2016 0 0 0 3 18                           California (PA)
            2013 6 Braden Wilson 204 FB   0 0 0                               Kansas St.
            2013 7 Mike Catapano 207 DE 2016 0 0 0 3 29                         2.0 Princeton
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            @tour2ma said:

            Here are his drafts 2013 - 2016:

            Year Rnd Player Pick Pos To AP1 PB St CarAV G Cmp Att Yds TD Int Att Yds TD Rec Yds TD Int Sk College/Univ
            2016 2 Chris Jones 37 DT 2017 0 0 2 6 28                       1 5.5 Mississippi St.
            2016 3 KeiVarae Russell 74 CB 2017 0 0 0 1 11                       1   Notre Dame
            2016 4 Parker Ehinger 105 G 2016 0 0 0 2 5                           Cincinnati
            2016 4 Eric Murray 106 CB 2017 0 0 0 1 27                           Minnesota
            2016 4 Demarcus Robinson 126 WR 2017 0 0 1 0 28                 17 181 0     Florida
            2016 5 Kevin Hogan 162 QB 2017 0 0 0 1 8 60 101 621 4 7 18 176 1           Stanford
            2016 5 Tyreek Hill 165 WR 2017 1 1 1 10 28 0 1 0 0 1 40 327 3 121 1504 12     West Alabama
            2016 6 D.J. White 178 CB 2016 0 0 0 1 11                       1   Georgia Tech
            2016 6 Dadi Nicolas 203 DE 2016 0 0 0 1 11                           Virginia Tech
            Year Rnd Player Pick Pos To AP1 PB St CarAV G Cmp Att Yds TD Int Att Yds TD Rec Yds TD Int Sk College/Univ
            2015 1 Marcus Peters 18 CB 2017 1 2 3 23 43                       17   Washington
            2015 2 Mitch Morse 49 G 2017 0 0 3 15 38                           Missouri
            2015 3 Chris Conley 76 WR 2017 0 0 1 7 37                 72 904 1     Georgia
            2015 3 Steven Nelson 98 CB 2017 0 0 1 6 32                           Oregon St.
            2015 4 Ramik Wilson 118 ILB 2017 0 0 1 9 29                       1   Georgia
            2015 5 D.J. Alexander 172 OLB 2017 0 1 0 5 42                           Oregon St.
            2015 5 James O'Shaughnessy 173 TE 2017 0 0 0 1 35                 16 181 0     Illinois St.
            2015 6 Rakeem Nunez-Roches 217 DT 2017 0 0 1 4 30                         1.5 Southern Miss
            2015 7 Da'Ron Brown 233 WR   0 0 0                               Northern Illinois
            Year Rnd Player Pick Pos To AP1 PB St CarAV G Cmp Att Yds TD Int Att Yds TD Rec Yds TD Int Sk College/Univ
            2014 1 Dee Ford 23 LB 2017 0 0 1 11 51                         17.5 Auburn
            2014 3 Phillip Gaines 87 DB 2017 0 0 0 5 39                       1   Rice
            2014 4 De'Anthony Thomas 124 RB 2017 0 0 0 6 46           28 180 2 59 468 3     Oregon
            2014 5 Aaron Murray 163 QB   0 0 0                               Georgia
            2014 6 Zach Fulton 193 G 2017 0 0 2 16 60                           Tennessee
            2014 6 Laurent Duvernay-Tardif 200 OL 2017 0 0 3 13 38                           McGill
            Year Rnd Player Pick Pos To AP1 PB St CarAV G Cmp Att Yds TD Int Att Yds TD Rec Yds TD Int Sk College/Univ
            2013 1 Eric Fisher 1 T 2017 0 0 5 27 74                 0 -5 0     Central Michigan
            2013 3 Travis Kelce 63 TE 2017 1 2 4 27 61 0 1 0 0 1 3 2 0 290 3733 21     Cincinnati
            2013 3 Knile Davis 96 RB 2016 0 0 0 10 57           250 805 11 34 271 1     Arkansas
            2013 4 Nico Johnson 99 LB 2015 0 0 0 3 18                           Alabama
            2013 5 Sanders Commings 134 DB 2013 0 0 0 0 2                           Georgia
            2013 6 Eric Kush 170 C 2016 0 0 0 3 18                           California (PA)
            2013 6 Braden Wilson 204 FB   0 0 0                               Kansas St.
            2013 7 Mike Catapano 207 DE 2016 0 0 0 3 29                         2.0 Princeton

            He drafted Kevin Hogan -> He's a genius

            Let's sign him NOW!

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              @tour2ma said:

              Here are his drafts 2013 - 2016:

              Year Rnd Player Pick Pos To AP1 PB St CarAV G Cmp Att Yds TD Int Att Yds TD Rec Yds TD Int Sk College/Univ
              2016 2 Chris Jones 37 DT 2017 0 0 2 6 28                       1 5.5 Mississippi St.
              2016 3 KeiVarae Russell 74 CB 2017 0 0 0 1 11                       1   Notre Dame
              2016 4 Parker Ehinger 105 G 2016 0 0 0 2 5                           Cincinnati
              2016 4 Eric Murray 106 CB 2017 0 0 0 1 27                           Minnesota
              2016 4 Demarcus Robinson 126 WR 2017 0 0 1 0 28                 17 181 0     Florida
              2016 5 Kevin Hogan 162 QB 2017 0 0 0 1 8 60 101 621 4 7 18 176 1           Stanford
              2016 5 Tyreek Hill 165 WR 2017 1 1 1 10 28 0 1 0 0 1 40 327 3 121 1504 12     West Alabama
              2016 6 D.J. White 178 CB 2016 0 0 0 1 11                       1   Georgia Tech
              2016 6 Dadi Nicolas 203 DE 2016 0 0 0 1 11                           Virginia Tech
              Year Rnd Player Pick Pos To AP1 PB St CarAV G Cmp Att Yds TD Int Att Yds TD Rec Yds TD Int Sk College/Univ
              2015 1 Marcus Peters 18 CB 2017 1 2 3 23 43                       17   Washington
              2015 2 Mitch Morse 49 G 2017 0 0 3 15 38                           Missouri
              2015 3 Chris Conley 76 WR 2017 0 0 1 7 37                 72 904 1     Georgia
              2015 3 Steven Nelson 98 CB 2017 0 0 1 6 32                           Oregon St.
              2015 4 Ramik Wilson 118 ILB 2017 0 0 1 9 29                       1   Georgia
              2015 5 D.J. Alexander 172 OLB 2017 0 1 0 5 42                           Oregon St.
              2015 5 James O'Shaughnessy 173 TE 2017 0 0 0 1 35                 16 181 0     Illinois St.
              2015 6 Rakeem Nunez-Roches 217 DT 2017 0 0 1 4 30                         1.5 Southern Miss
              2015 7 Da'Ron Brown 233 WR   0 0 0                               Northern Illinois
              Year Rnd Player Pick Pos To AP1 PB St CarAV G Cmp Att Yds TD Int Att Yds TD Rec Yds TD Int Sk College/Univ
              2014 1 Dee Ford 23 LB 2017 0 0 1 11 51                         17.5 Auburn
              2014 3 Phillip Gaines 87 DB 2017 0 0 0 5 39                       1   Rice
              2014 4 De'Anthony Thomas 124 RB 2017 0 0 0 6 46           28 180 2 59 468 3     Oregon
              2014 5 Aaron Murray 163 QB   0 0 0                               Georgia
              2014 6 Zach Fulton 193 G 2017 0 0 2 16 60                           Tennessee
              2014 6 Laurent Duvernay-Tardif 200 OL 2017 0 0 3 13 38                           McGill
              Year Rnd Player Pick Pos To AP1 PB St CarAV G Cmp Att Yds TD Int Att Yds TD Rec Yds TD Int Sk College/Univ
              2013 1 Eric Fisher 1 T 2017 0 0 5 27 74                 0 -5 0     Central Michigan
              2013 3 Travis Kelce 63 TE 2017 1 2 4 27 61 0 1 0 0 1 3 2 0 290 3733 21     Cincinnati
              2013 3 Knile Davis 96 RB 2016 0 0 0 10 57           250 805 11 34 271 1     Arkansas
              2013 4 Nico Johnson 99 LB 2015 0 0 0 3 18                           Alabama
              2013 5 Sanders Commings 134 DB 2013 0 0 0 0 2                           Georgia
              2013 6 Eric Kush 170 C 2016 0 0 0 3 18                           California (PA)
              2013 6 Braden Wilson 204 FB   0 0 0                               Kansas St.
              2013 7 Mike Catapano 207 DE 2016 0 0 0 3 29                         2.0 Princeton

              He drafted Kevin Hogan -> He's a genius

              Let's sign him NOW!

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              @nero said:

              He drafted Kevin Hogan -> He's a genius

              Let's sign him NOW!

              Jesus, People usually fall in love with the guys they draft....at least they feel some loyalty to them.  So, does this mean that Hogan sticks around?

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                @nero said:

                He drafted Kevin Hogan -> He's a genius

                Let's sign him NOW!

                Jesus, People usually fall in love with the guys they draft....at least they feel some loyalty to them.  So, does this mean that Hogan sticks around?

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                @the-gipper said:

                Jesus, People usually fall in love with the guys they draft....at least they feel some loyalty to them.  So, does this mean that Hogan sticks around?

                He did cut him so there is that.

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                  @nero said:

                  He drafted Kevin Hogan -> He's a genius

                  Let's sign him NOW!

                  Jesus, People usually fall in love with the guys they draft....at least they feel some loyalty to them.  So, does this mean that Hogan sticks around?

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                  @the-gipper said:

                  Jesus, People usually fall in love with the guys they draft....at least they feel some loyalty to them.  So, does this mean that Hogan sticks around?

                  Hogan got kicked in one year, let's hope not. 

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                    Do we know the status of McCarron's suit to become an unrestricted FA?  Didn't his agent file a complaint against the NFL after the trade with us didn't go through?

                    http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/21286767/aj-mccarron-files-grievance-vs-cincinnati-bengals-wants-unrestricted-free-agent-2018

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                    @jiggins7919 said:

                    Do we know the status of McCarron's suit to become an unrestricted FA?  Didn't his agent file a complaint against the NFL after the trade with us didn't go through?

                    http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/21286767/aj-mccarron-files-grievance-vs-cincinnati-bengals-wants-unrestricted-free-agent-2018

                    As I said in another thread- depends if he wins his grievance or not. UFA- maybe. RFA, and the Bengals slap a first round tender on him? No way in hell. Even Hue (at least I hope) isn't crack headed enough to give up the #1 overall (or at the very worst the #3) for McCarron. 

                    @nero said:

                    He drafted Kevin Hogan -> He's a genius

                    Let's sign him NOW!

                    ^^^ LOL!!!!!  

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                      Here are his drafts 2013 - 2016:

                      Year Rnd Player Pick Pos To AP1 PB St CarAV G Cmp Att Yds TD Int Att Yds TD Rec Yds TD Int Sk College/Univ
                      2016 2 Chris Jones 37 DT 2017 0 0 2 6 28                       1 5.5 Mississippi St.
                      2016 3 KeiVarae Russell 74 CB 2017 0 0 0 1 11                       1   Notre Dame
                      2016 4 Parker Ehinger 105 G 2016 0 0 0 2 5                           Cincinnati
                      2016 4 Eric Murray 106 CB 2017 0 0 0 1 27                           Minnesota
                      2016 4 Demarcus Robinson 126 WR 2017 0 0 1 0 28                 17 181 0     Florida
                      2016 5 Kevin Hogan 162 QB 2017 0 0 0 1 8 60 101 621 4 7 18 176 1           Stanford
                      2016 5 Tyreek Hill 165 WR 2017 1 1 1 10 28 0 1 0 0 1 40 327 3 121 1504 12     West Alabama
                      2016 6 D.J. White 178 CB 2016 0 0 0 1 11                       1   Georgia Tech
                      2016 6 Dadi Nicolas 203 DE 2016 0 0 0 1 11                           Virginia Tech
                      Year Rnd Player Pick Pos To AP1 PB St CarAV G Cmp Att Yds TD Int Att Yds TD Rec Yds TD Int Sk College/Univ
                      2015 1 Marcus Peters 18 CB 2017 1 2 3 23 43                       17   Washington
                      2015 2 Mitch Morse 49 G 2017 0 0 3 15 38                           Missouri
                      2015 3 Chris Conley 76 WR 2017 0 0 1 7 37                 72 904 1     Georgia
                      2015 3 Steven Nelson 98 CB 2017 0 0 1 6 32                           Oregon St.
                      2015 4 Ramik Wilson 118 ILB 2017 0 0 1 9 29                       1   Georgia
                      2015 5 D.J. Alexander 172 OLB 2017 0 1 0 5 42                           Oregon St.
                      2015 5 James O'Shaughnessy 173 TE 2017 0 0 0 1 35                 16 181 0     Illinois St.
                      2015 6 Rakeem Nunez-Roches 217 DT 2017 0 0 1 4 30                         1.5 Southern Miss
                      2015 7 Da'Ron Brown 233 WR   0 0 0                               Northern Illinois
                      Year Rnd Player Pick Pos To AP1 PB St CarAV G Cmp Att Yds TD Int Att Yds TD Rec Yds TD Int Sk College/Univ
                      2014 1 Dee Ford 23 LB 2017 0 0 1 11 51                         17.5 Auburn
                      2014 3 Phillip Gaines 87 DB 2017 0 0 0 5 39                       1   Rice
                      2014 4 De'Anthony Thomas 124 RB 2017 0 0 0 6 46           28 180 2 59 468 3     Oregon
                      2014 5 Aaron Murray 163 QB   0 0 0                               Georgia
                      2014 6 Zach Fulton 193 G 2017 0 0 2 16 60                           Tennessee
                      2014 6 Laurent Duvernay-Tardif 200 OL 2017 0 0 3 13 38                           McGill
                      Year Rnd Player Pick Pos To AP1 PB St CarAV G Cmp Att Yds TD Int Att Yds TD Rec Yds TD Int Sk College/Univ
                      2013 1 Eric Fisher 1 T 2017 0 0 5 27 74                 0 -5 0     Central Michigan
                      2013 3 Travis Kelce 63 TE 2017 1 2 4 27 61 0 1 0 0 1 3 2 0 290 3733 21     Cincinnati
                      2013 3 Knile Davis 96 RB 2016 0 0 0 10 57           250 805 11 34 271 1     Arkansas
                      2013 4 Nico Johnson 99 LB 2015 0 0 0 3 18                           Alabama
                      2013 5 Sanders Commings 134 DB 2013 0 0 0 0 2                           Georgia
                      2013 6 Eric Kush 170 C 2016 0 0 0 3 18                           California (PA)
                      2013 6 Braden Wilson 204 FB   0 0 0                               Kansas St.
                      2013 7 Mike Catapano 207 DE 2016 0 0 0 3 29                         2.0 Princeton

                      He drafted Kevin Hogan -> He's a genius

                      Let's sign him NOW!

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                      @nero said:

                      He drafted Kevin Hogan -> He's a genius

                      Let's sign him NOW!

                      Po will pay part of his salary!

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                        Yes to  UConn's John Dorsey.  Go Huskies!!!

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                          The owner has guaranteed the 1-27 HC his job a month after trying to sign hs QB of choice. 

                          Any GM that now arrives is nothing but a patsy to the head coach. He may as well not even be here. 

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                            @the-gipper said:

                            It has been rumored that there are some GM/coach "package" deals that may be out there:

                            Pioli and Vrabel

                            Caserio and McDaniels.

                            Point is, these would be GMs/coaches that would be in sync.    Dorsey and Hue however?   Someone used the term:  shotgun marriage.

                            Sounds like Hue has convinced Jimmy he can coach, he just needs better players. 

                            Whoever they hire will agree to Hue as coach for 2018, and if the season goes south next year, Hue will be gone and the GM can hand pick his new coach.

                            Winning in 2018 will make a shotgun wedding work.

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                            @adoug319 said:

                            Sounds like Hue has convinced Jimmy he can coach, he just needs better players. 

                            Whoever they hire will agree to Hue as coach for 2018, and if the season goes south next year, Hue will be gone and the GM can hand pick his new coach.

                            Winning in 2018 will make a shotgun wedding work.

                            That or this is Holmgren/Heckert/Mangini all over again, and a season is wasted with a new front office keeping the existing head coach that was inevitably fired... We'll see...

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                              The owner has guaranteed the 1-27 HC his job a month after trying to sign hs QB of choice. 

                              Any GM that now arrives is nothing but a patsy to the head coach. He may as well not even be here. 

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                              @londonbrown said:

                              The owner has guaranteed the 1-27 HC his job a month after trying to sign hs QB of choice. 

                              Any GM that now arrives is nothing but a patsy to the head coach. He may as well not even be here. 

                              I must have missed it. Show the article where Haslem said Hue will get McCarron no matter what? Not being snarky. I just haven’t seen anything to that effect.

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                                gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by
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                                John Dorsey was fired in June of 2017..about 2 months after Dorsey drafted McHolmes & Kareem Hunt..Soon after draft Andy Reid was not into Camp McHolmes move up & John Dorsey was cut loose. Am a fan of Alex Smith..not sure John Dorsey is..

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                                  The @Browns have hired John Dorsey to become Cleveland's general manager, per league sources. He will be introduced at a press conference Friday.

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                                    gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by
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                                    @boo-fagley said:

                                    No GM worth a damn will want to keep Yew.

                                    The blame game will continue. Yew will say he has no players and the GM will say the coaching sucks.

                                    Than riddle me this..1. Why has No player on this team quit on Hue? 2. Every player that has walked out of here always points at the FO plan & not the coaching?

                                    Browns & Buffett: Got to go fishin, Down to rock bottom again, with just a few Friends Team Brotherhood-"It's not about You,Me or I. It's about building We"..Hue Jackson
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                                      The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                                      Jesus Christ that was fast

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                                        darren15D darren15 wrote on last edited by
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                                        Alex Smith next Browns QB with Chiefs moving on to their rookie Mahomes ?

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                                          Jesus Christ that was fast

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                                          jcam222J jcam222 wrote on last edited by
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                                          @the-gipper said:

                                          Jesus Christ that was fast

                                          I read that they have had a private firm vetting him for about a month. 

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