Houston - our 2nd first round pick
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Wow.... crazy. I need to look up who they picked.....
"The season is notable for the Redskins drafting future Pro Bowlers Lavar Arrington and Chris Samuels with the second and third overall picks respectively in the first round of the 2000 NFL Draft."
So there's hope after all..............
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Hooker on IR or Peppers and Fitzpatrick/James ?
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Hooker on IR or Peppers and Fitzpatrick/James ?
So in your hypothetical Hooker is on the IR next season too?
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Fair enough
Hooker coming off of IR in his 2nd year
Or
Peppers in his 2nd year (at SS) and rookie Fitzpatrick/James,
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
In 1992 Indianapolis had #1 AND #2.
Can only pray it turns out better for us than it did for them.
1 1 1 Steve Emtman Defensive end Washington 1 2 2 Quentin Coryatt Linebacker Texas A&M -
Fair enough
Hooker coming off of IR in his 2nd year
Or
Peppers in his 2nd year (at SS) and rookie Fitzpatrick/James,
Fair enough
Hooker coming off of IR in his 2nd year
Or
Peppers in his 2nd year (at SS) and rookie Fitzpatrick/James,
You mean the Colts don't have a pick in next year's first round?
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The Colts are irrelevant.
We had pick 12 in 2017 or what we turned it into, pick 25 in 2017 and potentially a top 5 2018 pick. I'm assuming that's going to be the top FS this year in my scenario
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Fair enough
Hooker coming off of IR in his 2nd year
Or
Peppers in his 2nd year (at SS) and rookie Fitzpatrick/James,
You mean the Colts don't have a pick in next year's first round?
You mean the Colts don't have a pick in next year's first round?
To make his boy Peppers look good, woody has put Hooker on the IR again next year AND has not allowed a player to be drafted to pair with Hooker, apparently.
I love this board after a Browns loss. Shenanigans!
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Wow.... crazy. I need to look up who they picked.....
"The season is notable for the Redskins drafting future Pro Bowlers Lavar Arrington and Chris Samuels with the second and third overall picks respectively in the first round of the 2000 NFL Draft."
So there's hope after all..............
"The season is notable for the Redskins drafting future Pro Bowlers Lavar Arrington and Chris Samuels with the second and third overall picks respectively in the first round of the 2000 NFL Draft."
So there's hope after all..............
In 1992 Indianapolis had #1 AND #2.
Can only pray it turns out better for us than it did for them.
1 1 1 Steve Emtman Defensive end Washington 1 2 2 Quentin Coryatt Linebacker Texas A&M Dammit, just when I thought there was hope......
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To make his boy Peppers look good, woody has put Hooker on the IR again next year AND has not allowed a player to be drafted to pair with Hooker, apparently.
I love this board after a Browns loss. Shenanigans!
Sigh... This is real basic Sheet guys. I'm not sure why you aren't following.
You wouldn't pair another pick with Hooker. That's not how the comparison would work. This has been done plenty of times in the past.
The high pick you could have made
Or
The trade down pick plus the direct, additional assets you got from that trade down
Understand?
(Unless you're intentionally being ignorant to troll. Definite possibility)
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
To make his boy Peppers look good, woody has put Hooker on the IR again next year AND has not allowed a player to be drafted to pair with Hooker, apparently.
I love this board after a Browns loss. Shenanigans!
Sigh... This is real basic Sheet guys. I'm not sure why you aren't following.
You wouldn't pair another pick with Hooker. That's not how the comparison would work. This has been done plenty of times in the past.
The high pick you could have made
Or
The trade down pick plus the direct, additional assets you got from that trade down
Understand?
(Unless you're intentionally being ignorant to troll. Definite possibility)
Sigh... This is real basic Sheet guys. I'm not sure why you aren't following.
You wouldn't pair another pick with Hooker. That's not how the comparison would work. This has been done plenty of times in the past.
The high pick you could have made
Or
The trade down pick plus the direct, additional assets you got from that trade down
Understand?
(Unless you're intentionally being ignorant to troll. Definite possibility)
Oh yes, I forgot that Peppers was the result of moving down and picking up the 1st this season.
To be honest, I don't know what I would do in that hypothetical. I do know that I didn't want anything to do with drafting Peppers, I thought he was possibly the most overrated player entering the '16 Draft. Not because he played at TTUN, but because he struck me as a tweener, a "Jack of All Trades, Master of None" type guy. He has done absolutely nothing to change my mind about this in his rookie season - but with the qualifier that he's been miscast as a free safety stationed in the next county.
Hooker scared me a bit too, he only started for one season at Ohio State, and his injury background was a little off-putting.
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Well, having 0 Free Safeties on our roster is getting on my nerves. We need to play Peppers out of position each week because he is still our best option there. He has improved as the season has gone on, no doubt, but I'm not sure what the super deep safety position has much of an upside.
Draft a guy that has played the pure ball hawk / centerfielder role to take this Safety Spot and let Peppers get in the box where he can use his skillset.
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
Well, having 0 Free Safeties on our roster is getting on my nerves. We need to play Peppers out of position each week because he is still our best option there. He has improved as the season has gone on, no doubt, but I'm not sure what the super deep safety position has much of an upside.
Draft a guy that has played the pure ball hawk / centerfielder role to take this Safety Spot and let Peppers get in the box where he can use his skillset.
Well, having 0 Free Safeties on our roster is getting on my nerves. We need to play Peppers out of position each week because he is still our best option there. He has improved as the season has gone on, no doubt, but I'm not sure what the super deep safety position has much of an upside.
Draft a guy that has played the pure ball hawk / centerfielder role to take this Safety Spot and let Peppers get in the box where he can use his skillset.
lmao.....his 'skillset' isn't useful at all in the nfl. you're trying to mold this perfect safety position for your boy, but that's not how the nfl works period. Don't get hung up on fs/ss nomenclature......peppers is not a suitable nfl safety period. You want safeties now with ball skills/corner skills.
the problem with peppers all season hasn't mostly been that he is 'out of position'. the problem is that he doesn't have nfl skills to match up with any nfl position.
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Well, having 0 Free Safeties on our roster is getting on my nerves. We need to play Peppers out of position each week because he is still our best option there. He has improved as the season has gone on, no doubt, but I'm not sure what the super deep safety position has much of an upside.
Draft a guy that has played the pure ball hawk / centerfielder role to take this Safety Spot and let Peppers get in the box where he can use his skillset.
lmao.....his 'skillset' isn't useful at all in the nfl. you're trying to mold this perfect safety position for your boy, but that's not how the nfl works period. Don't get hung up on fs/ss nomenclature......peppers is not a suitable nfl safety period. You want safeties now with ball skills/corner skills.
the problem with peppers all season hasn't mostly been that he is 'out of position'. the problem is that he doesn't have nfl skills to match up with any nfl position.
lmao.....his 'skillset' isn't useful at all in the nfl. you're trying to mold this perfect safety position for your boy, but that's not how the nfl works period. Don't get hung up on fs/ss nomenclature......peppers is not a suitable nfl safety period. You want safeties now with ball skills/corner skills.
the problem with peppers all season hasn't mostly been that he is 'out of position'. the problem is that he doesn't have nfl skills to match up with any nfl position.
Idk if you watch any of our games... but there is very much a difference between our deep safety and our in the box safety. Peppers is clearly better at the latter, but we are playing him at the former.
I'm not trying to mold any kind of perfect safety position. I'm just asking for him to be played in position. But we can't, or we don't, because he is still our best option at the super deep safety role.
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lmao.....his 'skillset' isn't useful at all in the nfl. you're trying to mold this perfect safety position for your boy, but that's not how the nfl works period. Don't get hung up on fs/ss nomenclature......peppers is not a suitable nfl safety period. You want safeties now with ball skills/corner skills.
the problem with peppers all season hasn't mostly been that he is 'out of position'. the problem is that he doesn't have nfl skills to match up with any nfl position.
Idk if you watch any of our games... but there is very much a difference between our deep safety and our in the box safety. Peppers is clearly better at the latter, but we are playing him at the former.
I'm not trying to mold any kind of perfect safety position. I'm just asking for him to be played in position. But we can't, or we don't, because he is still our best option at the super deep safety role.
Idk if you watch any of our games... but there is very much a difference between our deep safety and our in the box safety. Peppers is clearly better at the latter, but we are playing him at the former.
I'm not trying to mold any kind of perfect safety position. I'm just asking for him to be played in position. But we can't, or we don't, because he is still our best option at the super deep safety role.
ive watched every second of every browns game. peppers doesn't belong on the field period. He's only there because he was a (terrible) first round pick and the rest of the roster is so lacking.
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He doesn't belong on the field???? Haha, alright.
And I'm the ridiculously biased one.
Good night
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
To make his boy Peppers look good, woody has put Hooker on the IR again next year AND has not allowed a player to be drafted to pair with Hooker, apparently.
I love this board after a Browns loss. Shenanigans!
Sigh... This is real basic Sheet guys. I'm not sure why you aren't following.
You wouldn't pair another pick with Hooker. That's not how the comparison would work. This has been done plenty of times in the past.
The high pick you could have made
Or
The trade down pick plus the direct, additional assets you got from that trade down
Understand?
(Unless you're intentionally being ignorant to troll. Definite possibility)
Sigh... This is real basic Sheet guys. I'm not sure why you aren't following.
You wouldn't pair another pick with Hooker. That's not how the comparison would work. This has been done plenty of times in the past.
The high pick you could have made
Or
The trade down pick plus the direct, additional assets you got from that trade down
Understand?
(Unless you're intentionally being ignorant to troll. Definite possibility)
Then you realize that a fair comparison would be between Watson and Peppers+our Texans' first round pick in 2018, don't you?
Because that was the actual exchange.
I am optimist about Peppers, because he has played in a new position and he has been improving throughout all the season, though I'd say he hasn't been stellar -- yet?
I don't know if it would be really positive to make him play SS again now that finally seems to get used to his new position. Having a FS/Centerfield as fast and as good tackler as Peppers is really something that I'd consider investing into, because if he learns to play the position and improves reading the QB and his coverage skills, he could be a great 'big play shut down' safety.
I think Williams wants to have some kind of Earl Thomas in Peppers. Let's hope it works.
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You could do it with Watson too. I chose Hooker because that's one guy half the board has been clamouring for
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