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  • W wargograw

    @the-gipper said:

    Well...that is what I said....he went to A&M for a lot more money.  Then why are you arguing with me about it? 

    He didn't go to A&M for the money of his salary alone (see Axe's post).

    When they say it was not for the money...it is always for the money.

    Personal salary yes, but also money for assistants and facilities. FSU's AD even came out and blatantly said that they couldn't offer what A&M was offering either in salary or in resources. 

    @the-gipper said:

    Yes...Bobby was over the hill....probably should have been gone long before that, so saying that Fisher was better than him is like saying he is better than a fossil.

    And he left for the money.   Congratulations...your alma mater has fuyucked up priorities.

    Ohio State pays Urban $6M a year. They've paid him more than we've paid our coach every single year he's been there. I could've said the same thing to you, but I'm not stupid, and I know Ohio State is a good school just like A&M. 

    You know who raves on and on about priorities and such? Michigan fans. 

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    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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    @wargograw said:

    Personal salary yes, but also money for assistants and facilities. FSU's AD even came out and blatantly said that they couldn't offer what A&M was offering either in salary or in resources. 

    Regardless, FSU is still the better program.

    Ohio State pays Urban $6M a year. They've paid him more than we've paid our coach every single year he's been there. I could've said the same thing to you, but I'm not stupid, and I know Ohio State is a good school just like A&M. 

    I wonder where A&M gets it money.  Ohio State at least has the entire state at its disposal as a market.   Texas A&M is only like 4th or 5th best program in that state.

    You know who raves on and on about priorities and such? Michigan fans. 

    Well....if there is any whine to make, FMU fans will make it.

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      Better program, just going broke.

      Texas has more people and more money.

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        A&M has pretty good behavior. They kick players off the team for stupid crap. Kid that got arrested last night is already off the team. A&M fans are like Michigan's. Hoping Jimbo will change that.

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        MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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        @wargograw said:

        A&M fans are like Michigan's. Hoping Jimbo will change that.

        How so?

        Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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          @wargograw said:

          A&M fans are like Michigan's. Hoping Jimbo will change that.

          How so?

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          The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by The Gipper
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          @mld-woody said:

          How so?

          Uhm, they are hoping to change a loser program into a winning program. They are hoping to become more competitive with the better programs in their conference. A&M would like to be able to achieve the level that Alabama, Auburn, LSU, Georgia, Florida are at (even though Fla. has had some down seasons...A&M has never been where Florida has been)

          In the Big Ten....FMU would like to achieve the level that OSU, PSU,  Wisconsin, MSU are at...or have been over the last decade. Even Penn St. recovered from a worst disaster quicker than FMU has. (I will take it that you don't mind if I call the reigns of RichRod and Hoke a disaster....in FMU terms. Harbaugh is helping them recover....but it is going slower than I am sure and other FMU alum would like.

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            MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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            I'm not going to bother correcting parts of your post. 

            But I'll see what War has to say

            Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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              Texas A&M gets more money then any school in Texas

              https://www.texastribune.org/2017/06/22/ballpark-figures-texas-m-reigns-uh-gets-boost-texas-college-sports-rev/

              "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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                Browns149B Browns149 wrote on last edited by
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                It cracks me up when woody says he won’t bother correcting people or telling people why they are wrong

                He just can’t stand the fact wishagin is done being a good football school.

                "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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                  MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                  You can only try to argue with biased idiots for so long before you realize it isn't worth it. 

                  Some of the things Gipper has claimed over the years are just ridiculous. There's no getting through. You aren't much better.

                  Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                    Texas A&M gets more money then any school in Texas

                    https://www.texastribune.org/2017/06/22/ballpark-figures-texas-m-reigns-uh-gets-boost-texas-college-sports-rev/

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                    MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                    @browns149 said:

                    Texas A&M gets more money then any school in Texas

                    https://www.texastribune.org/2017/06/22/ballpark-figures-texas-m-reigns-uh-gets-boost-texas-college-sports-rev/

                    That's just revenue though. Donations are huge too. 

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                      @browns149 said:

                      Texas A&M gets more money then any school in Texas

                      https://www.texastribune.org/2017/06/22/ballpark-figures-texas-m-reigns-uh-gets-boost-texas-college-sports-rev/

                      That's just revenue though. Donations are huge too. 

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                      @mld-woody said:

                      That's just revenue though. Donations are huge too. 

                      The big, big business of the top D-1A Athletics in particular football and basketball the other sports and divisions basically starve to death.....just the way it is.

                      Sports and finance two interests of mine. 😉

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                        You can only try to argue with biased idiots for so long before you realize it isn't worth it. 

                        Some of the things Gipper has claimed over the years are just ridiculous. There's no getting through. You aren't much better.

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                        Browns149B Browns149 wrote on last edited by
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                        @mld-woody said:

                        You can only try to argue with biased idiots for so long before you realize it isn't worth it. 

                        Some of the things Gipper has claimed over the years are just ridiculous. There's no getting through. You aren't much better.

                        I have said things that are true

                        you are the one that claims they are ridiculous 

                        "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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                        • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody

                          I'm not going to bother correcting parts of your post. 

                          But I'll see what War has to say

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                          The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by The Gipper
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                          @mld-woody said:

                          I'm not going to bother correcting parts of your post. 

                          Of course you aren't....because:  A.   There is nothing incorrcect about any part of my post...and B.  If there was...you are not smart enough to know the difference.

                          (or...unless you think that what I said of Harbaugh  helping Michigan get any better is incorrect.  If you think that, then I will defer to you).

                          But I'll see what War has to say

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                          • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody

                            You can only try to argue with biased idiots for so long before you realize it isn't worth it. 

                            Some of the things Gipper has claimed over the years are just ridiculous. There's no getting through. You aren't much better.

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                            @mld-woody said:

                            You can only try to argue with biased idiots for so long before you realize it isn't worth it. 

                            Some of the things Gipper has claimed over the years are just ridiculous. There's no getting through. You aren't much better.

                            Name one thing..   

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                              The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                              Texas A&M gets more money then any school in Texas

                              https://www.texastribune.org/2017/06/22/ballpark-figures-texas-m-reigns-uh-gets-boost-texas-college-sports-rev/

                              That's just revenue though. Donations are huge too. 

                              Previous research I have done...a couple or so years back, said that Texas had one of the top 1 or two athletic budgets in the nation.  Ohio State also up there.  Alabama as well.

                              If you are saying that TAMU is now high on that list, then that is a very recent development. (I suppose I can see where Texas may have fallen a bit...given their poor performances lately)

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                                But...it seems that is apparently correct, see this list:

                                http://www.businessinsider.com/schools-most-revenue-college-sports-2016-10/#2-texas--1835-million-24

                                TAMU IS spending more now than anyone else.    It helps them that they are spending 61.2% more in a single year than they had before....and 132% more over a 5 year period.

                                And noting, on this list of the Top 25 spenders:

                                10 are in the SEC, 8 in the Big Ten, 3 in the Pac 12, 2 in the ACC, and 2 in the Big 12.

                                Of the Top 10,  half...5 are SEC,  3 are Big Ten and two are Big 12.

                                (these were as of October 2016.

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                                  mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by
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                                  This kind of works in NCAA Hoops too, from the 2017 March Madness.....

                                  Selection Sunday is in the rearview, and that means one thing: Millions of sports fans across the country scrambling to fill out their brackets. There are inumerable strategies to use, from advanced stats to scariest mascots, but Forbes has always taken the simple business approach: picking the teams that spend the most.

                                  The basic logic is that the teams spending the most money on things like coaching, recruiting and facilities will typically be the most successful on the court. The approach also tends to favor teams that have had recent tournament success, since deep tourney runs are usually associated with higher spending on travel and lodging. It's not perfect - Syracuse and Indiana, both top-five in basketball expenses, aren't even in the field this year - but three of the last five champions rank among the sport's top spenders.

                                  And does our strategy work for filling out a bracket? More or less. Over the last three years our spending bracket has nailed nearly 70% of first-round picks, which is about equal to what you'd get by picking the favorites. And we typically wind up with around half of the Sweet Sixteen and Elite Eight........

                                  https://www.forbes.com/sites/chrissmith/2017/03/14/forbes-sportsmoney-ncaa-bracket-pick-the-teams-that-spend-the-most/#4396bca42f1c

                                  Football data is generally a few years back and can be a bit nebulous at times.

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                                    From businessinsider, I often use Forbes also, from 2015......

                                    The 25 schools that make the most money in college sports.....

                                    A lot of BIG TEN in the top schools!

                                    http://www.businessinsider.com/college-sports-revenue-leaders-2015-9/#1-university-of-oregon--1960-million-1

                                    GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND!
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                                      From businessinsider, I often use Forbes also, from 2015......

                                      The 25 schools that make the most money in college sports.....

                                      A lot of BIG TEN in the top schools!

                                      http://www.businessinsider.com/college-sports-revenue-leaders-2015-9/#1-university-of-oregon--1960-million-1

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                                      @mjp28 said:

                                      From businessinsider, I often use Forbes also, from 2015......

                                      The 25 schools that make the most money in college sports.....

                                      A lot of BIG TEN in the top schools!

                                      http://www.businessinsider.com/college-sports-revenue-leaders-2015-9/#1-university-of-oregon--1960-million-1

                                      This is old.   It is superseded by the link that I gave.  Your link had Oregon on top....but note this from more recent:

                                      21. Oregon — $105.7 million

                                      21. Oregon  — $105.7 million

                                      1-year change: -46.1%

                                      5-year change: -13.6%

                                      Donations: $27.0 million

                                      Licensing/Rights fees: $42.2 million

                                      3-year avg. football revenue: $57.0 million

                                      3-year avg. men's basketball revenue: $8.8 million

                                      3-year avg. women's basketball revenue: $0.3 million

                                      They had a negative 46 some percent in their revenues.

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                                        @wargograw said:

                                        A&M fans are like Michigan's. Hoping Jimbo will change that.

                                        How so?

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                                        @mld-woody said:

                                        How so?

                                        We think kicking a guy like Kirk Merritt off the team and back to the hood, and not paying players, is more noble than actually winning games. I hear we will be picking it up again with Jimbo. Certainly he knows how to "play the game" coming from FSU so hopefully he revives us in that regard.

                                        @the-gipper said:

                                        But...it seems that is apparently correct, see this list:

                                        http://www.businessinsider.com/schools-most-revenue-college-sports-2016-10/#2-texas--1835-million-24

                                        TAMU IS spending more now than anyone else.    It helps them that they are spending 61.2% more in a single year than they had before....and 132% more over a 5 year period.

                                        And noting, on this list of the Top 25 spenders:

                                        10 are in the SEC, 8 in the Big Ten, 3 in the Pac 12, 2 in the ACC, and 2 in the Big 12.

                                        Of the Top 10,  half...5 are SEC,  3 are Big Ten and two are Big 12.

                                        (these were as of October 2016.

                                        You should see the recruiting "budgets."

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                                          @mjp28 said:

                                          From businessinsider, I often use Forbes also, from 2015......

                                          The 25 schools that make the most money in college sports.....

                                          A lot of BIG TEN in the top schools!

                                          http://www.businessinsider.com/college-sports-revenue-leaders-2015-9/#1-university-of-oregon--1960-million-1

                                          This is old.   It is superseded by the link that I gave.  Your link had Oregon on top....but note this from more recent:

                                          21. Oregon — $105.7 million

                                          21. Oregon  — $105.7 million

                                          1-year change: -46.1%

                                          5-year change: -13.6%

                                          Donations: $27.0 million

                                          Licensing/Rights fees: $42.2 million

                                          3-year avg. football revenue: $57.0 million

                                          3-year avg. men's basketball revenue: $8.8 million

                                          3-year avg. women's basketball revenue: $0.3 million

                                          They had a negative 46 some percent in their revenues.

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                                          mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by mjp28
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                                          @the-gipper said:

                                          This is old.   It is superseded by the link that I gave.  Your link had Oregon on top....but note this from more recent:

                                          21. Oregon — $105.7 million

                                          21. Oregon  — $105.7 million

                                          1-year change: -46.1%

                                          5-year change: -13.6%

                                          Donations: $27.0 million

                                          Licensing/Rights fees: $42.2 million

                                          3-year avg. football revenue: $57.0 million

                                          3-year avg. men's basketball revenue: $8.8 million

                                          3-year avg. women's basketball revenue: $0.3 million

                                          They had a negative 46 some percent in their revenues.

                                          Just showing a few things like the difference between profit and revenues especially with Mr. NIKE cutting some massive checks for the university. 

                                          And No. 1 in one stat and No. 21 a year later......like I said these numbers can be a bit "nebulous" at times to say the least. Remember the old slush fund days? I do, I remember some good teammates and friends  getting some amazing incentives to play in the late 1960s and early 1970s primarily from booster's big bankrolls picking them up at the airport.  Cars, clothes, girls....oh what fun days.

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