I rooted for the Steelers and they choked like a Bitch
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Seen it so much - the steelers defense gets "offensive interference" when they need it...and DO NOT get called on
FLAGRANT pi when they do it. on and on it goes. I think one of the refs of the squealer-patriot game wasn't afraid
of goodhell - he called on on the steeler db, and holding once, on the squealer oline. They get away with holding like I have
never seen any other team get away with it.
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Brady didn' do Schmidt you Shmucking moron. A lucky bounce won that game. Brady was on the sidelines looking like he needed to puke.
The refs won that game, not Brady
Brady didn' do Schmidt you Shmucking moron. A lucky bounce won that game. Brady was on the sidelines looking like he needed to puke.
The refs won that game, not Brady
Then the refs won the game last week for the Packers vs. the Browns. Two pretty clear Pass Interferences on Gordon that were not called....one of which would have possibly been a TD. Blocking in the back and holding not called on that big punt return.
The Steelers have gotten way, way, way more than their share of lucky calls from the refs.
In fact, wasn't there a horrendously bad call in their favor in the first game of this year, which essentially allowed them to win by 3 pts. vs. the Browns?
So...if the refs won that game for the Pats....then the score is like 500-1 now rather than 500-0 in the Steelers favor.
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We all went decade after decade of knowing what a catch was...... even a casual fan could watch a replay or maybe 2 and say "yup, that's a catch". Now we have announcers that played the game at the NFL level for years not knowing what a catch is.
The NFL needs to go back to what worked for years and shitcan this whole "control the ball to the ground through the process" (< God I hate that phrase) crap, and give the game back to the players and fans and away from the refs.
he guy catches the ball, runs a couple steps then sticks it over the goal line........ it is a TD. Doesn't even matter that he lost it after crossing the plane. Dumbest rule ever. The rules are doing more to hurt the game each and every year.
The WORST part? AN idiotic Steeler threat is getting a ton of hits because we really have nothing to talk about regarding our own team. Other than they suck.
he guy catches the ball, runs a couple steps then sticks it over the goal line........ it is a TD. Doesn't even matter that he lost it after crossing the plane. Dumbest rule ever. The rules are doing more to hurt the game each and every year.
The WORST part? AN idiotic Steeler threat is getting a ton of hits because we really have nothing to talk about regarding our own team. Other than they suck.
No....all the other threads are getting hits as well....but apparently this is the only one you are paying attention to because you are a Steeler Khunt/FRAK.
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I figure Stan, the board's biggest squealer fan, lost money on a bet, but would never complain about how the squealers failed big-time in clock management. rapistblerger says he was yelling "clock it", but he was told don't clock it, throwing the pukester oc under the bus, then throws for a td, but ... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA !!! That was poetic justice - the squealers arranged? to take out Brady's knee on a hit from behind by a rusher..but it failed. so, no win for Stanli's sissy three rivers scum.
Bent rapistblerger is as lost without Brown as Brady is without Gronk.
I figure Stan, the board's biggest squealer fan, lost money on a bet, but would never complain about how the squealers failed big-time in clock management. rapistblerger says he was yelling "clock it", but he was told don't clock it, throwing the pukester oc under the bus, then throws for a td, but ... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA !!! That was poetic justice - the squealers arranged? to take out Brady's knee on a hit from behind by a rusher..but it failed. so, no win for Stanli's sissy three rivers scum.
Bent rapistblerger is as lost without Brown as Brady is without Gronk.
Stan? A Steeler fan? I doubt that seriously. He, just like everyone else is frustrated by the Browns.
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Kraft runs the NFL, the refs look for anything to help his team
Uhmm, sorry dude. No team has gotten more favorable calls from the refs than the Steelers have over the years. If anything it was Dan Rooney that "ran the NFL"...until he died. Maybe that has changed now.
Of course, if you listen to Jerry Jones, he thinks he runs the league. He calls himself the "ranking owner" in the NFL (because, apparently, he thinks he is the most important owner)
But...one thing we do know. If there IS a "ranking" amongst NFL owners.....we know which position Jimmy Haslam holds. Anyone want to guess?
ut...one thing we do know. If there IS a "ranking" amongst NFL owners.....we know which position Jimmy Haslam holds. Anyone want to guess?
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I figure Stan, the board's biggest squealer fan, lost money on a bet, but would never complain about how the squealers failed big-time in clock management. rapistblerger says he was yelling "clock it", but he was told don't clock it, throwing the pukester oc under the bus, then throws for a td, but ... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA !!! That was poetic justice - the squealers arranged? to take out Brady's knee on a hit from behind by a rusher..but it failed. so, no win for Stanli's sissy three rivers scum.
Bent rapistblerger is as lost without Brown as Brady is without Gronk.
Stan? A Steeler fan? I doubt that seriously. He, just like everyone else is frustrated by the Browns.
Stan? A Steeler fan? I doubt that seriously. He, just like everyone else is frustrated by the Browns.
And years ago (wisely) dumped his season tickets. I'm in a different situation. Stan was way up in the corner end zone opposite the Dawg Pound. Those tickets can easily be replaced. Mine? 100 level 20 yard line. No one, and I mean no one is just walking away from their PSLs there. Proof of that is we've put in for seat improvement for the last five years, and gotten nowhere. I hope Jimmy noticed all the purple in the lower deck yesterday, and the nearly empty upper deck.
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Good take on my thread. Here are my feelings. I believe that for a variety of reasons, including years of influence of guys like Deiken, Brown and Kosar upon unsavvy owners this franchise has a culture that believes the attention should be placed on the OL, defense, trading away high picks for many low picks, and purposely avoiding to participate in drafting of of top offensive playmakers.
This is the exact opposite of how Paul Brown built his Browns. Sadly, the fan base supports and believes in this.
The new GM is Phil Sewage reincarnated. NOTHING WILL CHANGE IN 2018. Just watch.
I want to see the Browns fold. I want to see the name lost forever and football removed from the city of Cleveland. I really do. Honestly.
This is a charade. You know it and so does everyone else. The entire franchise is a marketing gimmick that exploited the love a team, an era that is no more.
All this nostalgic pathology is doing is making a bigger joke of what was once the best brand in the NFL.
Enough already. End this abomination.
If the Browns moved, it woud save me $2,000 per year...
If the Browns moved, it woud save me $2,000 per year...
Or if you just manned up and actually cancelled your tickets....
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Or if you just manned up and actually cancelled your tickets....
OK, I'll cancel 'em the minute you write me a check for $20,000 so I can buy 'em back in the same section when the Browns start winning. That would make me a FRAK- in Gip's terminology. So stuff it. You don't just walk away from 35 years worth of seniority- probably longer than you've been alive.
I have way more right than you do to bitch about the garbage I'm paying that kind of money to watch (with a couple exceptions) every year since 1999. Not to mention the additional wear and tear on the car driving 440 miles to every game.
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A. Either cancel them or stop complaining.
B. Even if you are "wasting" your money on the seats, no one's putting a gun to your head forcing you to go to the games.
All I see the tickets doing is making you miserable. Why continue that?
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Well whoever people are rooting for the Steelers have slowed down the Pats' offense a bit with the defensive changes so far. Game will be close.
As for Ghoolies point, is it that Browns fans are too complacent or that Browns fans are unworthy? Because by that logic if the fans all boycott the team would move, so, being complacent is what would be keeping them in Cleveland. Hence the Browns would always be losers in Cleveland. Is that the point or did I get lost in that rabbit hole?
Good take on my thread. Here are my feelings. I believe that for a variety of reasons, including years of influence of guys like Deiken, Brown and Kosar upon unsavvy owners this franchise has a culture that believes the attention should be placed on the OL, defense, trading away high picks for many low picks, and purposely avoiding to participate in drafting of of top offensive playmakers.
This is the exact opposite of how Paul Brown built his Browns. Sadly, the fan base supports and believes in this.
The new GM is Phil Sewage reincarnated. NOTHING WILL CHANGE IN 2018. Just watch.
I want to see the Browns fold. I want to see the name lost forever and football removed from the city of Cleveland. I really do. Honestly.
This is a charade. You know it and so does everyone else. The entire franchise is a marketing gimmick that exploited the love a team, an era that is no more.
All this nostalgic pathology is doing is making a bigger joke of what was once the best brand in the NFL.
Enough already. End this abomination.
Good take on my thread. Here are my feelings. I believe that for a variety of reasons, including years of influence of guys like Deiken, Brown and Kosar upon unsavvy owners this franchise has a culture that believes the attention should be placed on the OL, defense, trading away high picks for many low picks, and purposely avoiding to participate in drafting of of top offensive playmakers.
This is the exact opposite of how Paul Brown built his Browns. Sadly, the fan base supports and believes in this.
The new GM is Phil Sewage reincarnated. NOTHING WILL CHANGE IN 2018. Just watch.
I want to see the Browns fold. I want to see the name lost forever and football removed from the city of Cleveland. I really do. Honestly.
This is a charade. You know it and so does everyone else. The entire franchise is a marketing gimmick that exploited the love a team, an era that is no more.
All this nostalgic pathology is doing is making a bigger joke of what was once the best brand in the NFL.
Enough already. End this abomination.
the shitstain browns are a ponzi scheme....period...they are the worse franachise in the history of the nfl...i have to laugh,...it looks like per the stadium attendance as they pan the camera around, that alot of folks are starting to get it...all you see and hear by mid fourth qtr are a few drunken dopes booing the team...what a Shmucking disaster they have become...Shmucking sandlot players and stupid Shmucking drunken fans freezing their stupid asses off...heheheheee...
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A. Either cancel them or stop complaining.
B. Even if you are "wasting" your money on the seats, no one's putting a gun to your head forcing you to go to the games.
All I see the tickets doing is making you miserable. Why continue that?
A. Either cancel them or stop complaining.
B. Even if you are "wasting" your money on the seats, no one's putting a gun to your head forcing you to go to the games.
All I see the tickets doing is making you miserable. Why continue that?
You are freaking clueless. Told you already- you don't cancel the seats because they're for the next generation. When the Browns are playing great, you can sell seats in our section for 2.5X face value, to show you the current level of suckage- for the Ravens game you were getting 30 cents on the dollar, if you could even unload them at any price. Season ticket holders in our class are the most loyal fans out there. There's thousands of folks in the primo sections who outrank us in seniority, their grandparents were season ticket holders from day one. I'll complain all I want to about the crap product. & if you don't like it, then put me on ignore. You're probably the type of person who wouldn't complain to the manager when you got lousy service or a $hitty meal at a restaraunt. The complaining will stop, I'd guess in the unlikely event we ever get to 8-8 in the foreseeable future. The Browns certainly know how I feel after we blast them in our annual "season ticket holder satisfaction survey".
EDIT: Here's something else for you to consider War. PSL 100 level sideline (like mine are) are an asset. Doubt me? take a look here: mouse over the sections. http://www.pslsource.com/buy_cleveland_browns_psl/ Nobody, never, ever justs walks away from them unless they're brain damaged. Know anything about the stock market? I could put my PSLs up for sale, and I'd be selling out at the absolute bottom of the market. Not very bright.
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A. Either cancel them or stop complaining.
B. Even if you are "wasting" your money on the seats, no one's putting a gun to your head forcing you to go to the games.
All I see the tickets doing is making you miserable. Why continue that?
You are freaking clueless. Told you already- you don't cancel the seats because they're for the next generation. When the Browns are playing great, you can sell seats in our section for 2.5X face value, to show you the current level of suckage- for the Ravens game you were getting 30 cents on the dollar, if you could even unload them at any price. Season ticket holders in our class are the most loyal fans out there. There's thousands of folks in the primo sections who outrank us in seniority, their grandparents were season ticket holders from day one. I'll complain all I want to about the crap product. & if you don't like it, then put me on ignore. You're probably the type of person who wouldn't complain to the manager when you got lousy service or a $hitty meal at a restaraunt. The complaining will stop, I'd guess in the unlikely event we ever get to 8-8 in the foreseeable future. The Browns certainly know how I feel after we blast them in our annual "season ticket holder satisfaction survey".
EDIT: Here's something else for you to consider War. PSL 100 level sideline (like mine are) are an asset. Doubt me? take a look here: mouse over the sections. http://www.pslsource.com/buy_cleveland_browns_psl/ Nobody, never, ever justs walks away from them unless they're brain damaged. Know anything about the stock market? I could put my PSLs up for sale, and I'd be selling out at the absolute bottom of the market. Not very bright.
You are freaking clueless. Told you already- you don't cancel the seats because they're for the next generation. When the Browns are playing great, you can sell seats in our section for 2.5X face value, to show you the current level of suckage- for the Ravens game you were getting 30 cents on the dollar, if you could even unload them at any price. Season ticket holders in our class are the most loyal fans out there. There's thousands of folks in the primo sections who outrank us in seniority, their grandparents were season ticket holders from day one. I'll complain all I want to about the crap product. & if you don't like it, then put me on ignore. You're probably the type of person who wouldn't complain to the manager when you got lousy service or a $hitty meal at a restaraunt. The complaining will stop, I'd guess in the unlikely event we ever get to 8-8 in the foreseeable future. The Browns certainly know how I feel after we blast them in our annual "season ticket holder satisfaction survey".
EDIT: Here's something else for you to consider War. PSL 100 level sideline (like mine are) are an asset. Doubt me? take a look here: mouse over the sections. http://www.pslsource.com/buy_cleveland_browns_psl/ Nobody, never, ever justs walks away from them unless they're brain damaged. Know anything about the stock market? I could put my PSLs up for sale, and I'd be selling out at the absolute bottom of the market. Not very bright.
Larry,
not speaking out of school, but in your defense. For years I used to put my students into Lo Duca accordions. They were functionally great but had one feature that kept them from being great. So, because I could afford it, I would modify the instrument to make me happy. I complain to this day about why the now defunct company did this. It was my money, my time, so I reserved the right to beach about it. Same deal with your tickets. The damned team is legend and you want people you love to hopefully one day enjoy what you did.
Whether or not the Browns ever turn it around, is not even the issue. It's the Browns. You just don't give your ducats up.
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Choked? Jesse James scored a touchdown first and foremost. Knee down, full possession and then he extends after possession for the plane and crosses it. There is a reason some of the talking heads are going nuts over it. Now for the fake spike eli Roger's was open before his jersey was grabbed RIGHT in front of the red which lead to the tip and the int. There was no choking. The steelers were robbed.
AKA SNATCH98 or Rorbotron. The boards glorious admins decided to get cute and change my name to "homotron" Classy group of people. (Lost a bet with Columbus king and got banned for a month) -
Choked? Jesse James scored a touchdown first and foremost. Knee down, full possession and then he extends after possession for the plane and crosses it. There is a reason some of the talking heads are going nuts over it. Now for the fake spike eli Roger's was open before his jersey was grabbed RIGHT in front of the red which lead to the tip and the int. There was no choking. The steelers were robbed.
Choked? Jesse James scored a touchdown first and foremost. Knee down, full possession and then he extends after possession for the plane and crosses it. There is a reason some of the talking heads are going nuts over it. Now for the fake spike eli Roger's was open before his jersey was grabbed RIGHT in front of the red which lead to the tip and the int. There was no choking. The steelers were robbed.
EVERY talking head I have heard said the refs got the call right on that play. ESPN, Fox, NBC etc. (maybe not the ones in Peetown...but all the national outlets did). They said they didn't particularly like that rule...but they said that the call was correct.
And I don't know about that play in the int. Didn't see it clearly enough.
Nevertheless...no one is crying for yinzers, as yinz are usually the ones getting those calls. So, as I said above, if it has been 500-0 in favor of the Squibs, it is now 500-1 in their favor.
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Choked? Jesse James scored a touchdown first and foremost. Knee down, full possession and then he extends after possession for the plane and crosses it. There is a reason some of the talking heads are going nuts over it. Now for the fake spike eli Roger's was open before his jersey was grabbed RIGHT in front of the red which lead to the tip and the int. There was no choking. The steelers were robbed.
Choked? Jesse James scored a touchdown first and foremost. Knee down, full possession and then he extends after possession for the plane and crosses it. There is a reason some of the talking heads are going nuts over it. Now for the fake spike eli Roger's was open before his jersey was grabbed RIGHT in front of the red which lead to the tip and the int. There was no choking. The steelers were robbed.
lol. seriously? he did not keep the ball stable as he rolled over. that is the rule. Of course, the stinking squealers don't like rules - they
break them every chance if they want to win, especially when the chips were down. Twice you db had his hand(s) with big yellow gloves in the facemask of a receiver, and neither time was pi called. I mean, the db was facing right into the face of the wr, and does that, and NO CALL ? SERIOUSLY? now you mad, bro?
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Damn folks, I'll try my best to give a history lesson, and many of you posting on this thread may remember this crap.For the record, I HATE replay as an officiating tool, but it's been implemented due to several of these historical plays:
- Immaculate Reception (Pitt vs Oakland AFC Semi Final, 1972)
- Holy Roller (Oak vs San Diego, 1978)
- Renfro Was In (Hou vs Pitt, AFC Championship 1980)
- Rob Lytle's Fumble (Denver vs Oakland, AFC Championship, 1977)
- Karlis Missed (Cle vs Denver, 1986 AFC Championship)
Denver and Pittsburgh have benefited at least twice from erroneous calls in big games. Oakland has been the victim quite a few times (include that crappy Tuck Rule vs the Pats).
Footnote: Gronkowski should have never been allowed to play Sunday, or even the rest of the season IMHO. If he was a Brown, Raider, Lion, or Bill, he's suspended for sure. Isn't it ironic Pitt couldn't stop him?
Something tells me that Pitt will get a few calls their way in the 2017 AFC Championship vs the Pats. Of course, Jacksonville might have a say so, but I doubt it. Relax Steeler fans, Rozelle, Tagliabue, and Goodell have your back.
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Damn folks, I'll try my best to give a history lesson, and many of you posting on this thread may remember this crap.For the record, I HATE replay as an officiating tool, but it's been implemented due to several of these historical plays:
- Immaculate Reception (Pitt vs Oakland AFC Semi Final, 1972)
- Holy Roller (Oak vs San Diego, 1978)
- Renfro Was In (Hou vs Pitt, AFC Championship 1980)
- Rob Lytle's Fumble (Denver vs Oakland, AFC Championship, 1977)
- Karlis Missed (Cle vs Denver, 1986 AFC Championship)
Denver and Pittsburgh have benefited at least twice from erroneous calls in big games. Oakland has been the victim quite a few times (include that crappy Tuck Rule vs the Pats).
Footnote: Gronkowski should have never been allowed to play Sunday, or even the rest of the season IMHO. If he was a Brown, Raider, Lion, or Bill, he's suspended for sure. Isn't it ironic Pitt couldn't stop him?
Something tells me that Pitt will get a few calls their way in the 2017 AFC Championship vs the Pats. Of course, Jacksonville might have a say so, but I doubt it. Relax Steeler fans, Rozelle, Tagliabue, and Goodell have your back.
Damn folks, I'll try my best to give a history lesson, and many of you posting on this thread may remember this crap.For the record, I HATE replay as an officiating tool, but it's been implemented due to several of these historical plays:
- Immaculate Reception (Pitt vs Oakland AFC Semi Final, 1972)
- Holy Roller (Oak vs San Diego, 1978)
- Renfro Was In (Hou vs Pitt, AFC Championship 1980)
- Rob Lytle's Fumble (Denver vs Oakland, AFC Championship, 1977)
- Karlis Missed (Cle vs Denver, 1986 AFC Championship)
Denver and Pittsburgh have benefited at least twice from erroneous calls in big games. Oakland has been the victim quite a few times (include that crappy Tuck Rule vs the Pats).
Footnote: Gronkowski should have never been allowed to play Sunday, or even the rest of the season IMHO. If he was a Brown, Raider, Lion, or Bill, he's suspended for sure. Isn't it ironic Pitt couldn't stop him?
Something tells me that Pitt will get a few calls their way in the 2017 AFC Championship vs the Pats. Of course, Jacksonville might have a say so, but I doubt it. Relax Steeler fans, Rozelle, Tagliabue, and Goodell have your back.
The Karlis kick likely would not have been overturned...I don't think to this day they allow reviews on kicks, do they? Maybe they do....as remember the Phil Dawson kick that hit the stanchion. The think about that Karlis kick though was that they just needed a taller goal post...which I think they do have now, no?
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Damn folks, I'll try my best to give a history lesson, and many of you posting on this thread may remember this crap.For the record, I HATE replay as an officiating tool, but it's been implemented due to several of these historical plays:
- Immaculate Reception (Pitt vs Oakland AFC Semi Final, 1972)
- Holy Roller (Oak vs San Diego, 1978)
- Renfro Was In (Hou vs Pitt, AFC Championship 1980)
- Rob Lytle's Fumble (Denver vs Oakland, AFC Championship, 1977)
- Karlis Missed (Cle vs Denver, 1986 AFC Championship)
Denver and Pittsburgh have benefited at least twice from erroneous calls in big games. Oakland has been the victim quite a few times (include that crappy Tuck Rule vs the Pats).
Footnote: Gronkowski should have never been allowed to play Sunday, or even the rest of the season IMHO. If he was a Brown, Raider, Lion, or Bill, he's suspended for sure. Isn't it ironic Pitt couldn't stop him?
Something tells me that Pitt will get a few calls their way in the 2017 AFC Championship vs the Pats. Of course, Jacksonville might have a say so, but I doubt it. Relax Steeler fans, Rozelle, Tagliabue, and Goodell have your back.
The Karlis kick likely would not have been overturned...I don't think to this day they allow reviews on kicks, do they? Maybe they do....as remember the Phil Dawson kick that hit the stanchion. The think about that Karlis kick though was that they just needed a taller goal post...which I think they do have now, no?
The Karlis kick likely would not have been overturned...I don't think to this day they allow reviews on kicks, do they? Maybe they do....as remember the Phil Dawson kick that hit the stanchion. The think about that Karlis kick though was that they just needed a taller goal post...which I think they do have now, no?
Correct, they don't review kicks...I just need to "let it out" once in awhile because it was no good. I do think the posts are taller, but I'm not sure how much.
My other rant, somewhat related is that officiating has deteriorated with the origin of replay.
The catch rule is so damn stupid. Besides this Jesse James play, there was a Thursday night game, Arizona vs Seattle a few weeks ago, where the Cardinals RB caught a pass out of the backfield, took 6 or 7 steps, fell to the ground, and they ruled it "incomplete." Then you have the Dez Bryant catch (spectacular by the way) vs Green Bay in the playoffs that was over turned, and the Megatron TD catch that got overturned as well. I'm sure there are many other examples.
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The Karlis kick likely would not have been overturned...I don't think to this day they allow reviews on kicks, do they? Maybe they do....as remember the Phil Dawson kick that hit the stanchion. The think about that Karlis kick though was that they just needed a taller goal post...which I think they do have now, no?
Correct, they don't review kicks...I just need to "let it out" once in awhile because it was no good. I do think the posts are taller, but I'm not sure how much.
My other rant, somewhat related is that officiating has deteriorated with the origin of replay.
The catch rule is so damn stupid. Besides this Jesse James play, there was a Thursday night game, Arizona vs Seattle a few weeks ago, where the Cardinals RB caught a pass out of the backfield, took 6 or 7 steps, fell to the ground, and they ruled it "incomplete." Then you have the Dez Bryant catch (spectacular by the way) vs Green Bay in the playoffs that was over turned, and the Megatron TD catch that got overturned as well. I'm sure there are many other examples.
The catch rule is so damn stupid. Besides this Jesse James play, there was a Thursday night game, Arizona vs Seattle a few weeks ago, where the Cardinals RB caught a pass out of the backfield, took 6 or 7 steps, fell to the ground, and they ruled it "incomplete." Then you have the Dez Bryant catch (spectacular by the way) vs Green Bay in the playoffs that was over turned, and the Megatron TD catch that got overturned as well. I'm sure there are many other examples.
Catch rule is stupid but the way it was called against pisspuke is the same way it's called all day long in every game. I don't like the rule, but that's the way it's called the great majority of the time.
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