Start Kevin Hogan NOW.
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What do you think boys, would we be better or worse at this point had Kevin Hogan started the season for the long run? Hard to imagine being any worse...
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What do you think boys, would we be better or worse at this point had Kevin Hogan started the season for the long run? Hard to imagine being any worse...
100% worse off...
How?
- We would not now know we need to take a QB high in the upcoming draft.
- We would have been starting a QB who could not win the starting job.
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What do you think boys, would we be better or worse at this point had Kevin Hogan started the season for the long run? Hard to imagine being any worse...
100% worse off...
How?
- We would not now know we need to take a QB high in the upcoming draft.
- We would have been starting a QB who could not win the starting job.
100% worse off...
How?
- We would not now know we need to take a QB high in the upcoming draft.
- We would have been starting a QB who could not win the starting job.
Pretty much... Now we know. Kizer isn't the answer other than as a future backup QB.
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What do you think boys, would we be better or worse at this point had Kevin Hogan started the season for the long run? Hard to imagine being any worse...
100% worse off...
How?
- We would not now know we need to take a QB high in the upcoming draft.
- We would have been starting a QB who could not win the starting job.
100% worse off...
How?
- We would not now know we need to take a QB high in the upcoming draft.
- We would have been starting a QB who could not win the starting job.
So number one you are saying that if Hogan started he might well have won more games and the front office and coaching staff might possibly be confused as to whether he's the quarterback of the future?
As for number two I don't think winning the job had anything to do with it. I don't think we had a better chance to win with Kizer then we did with either of the quarterbacks we shitcanned. He got the start because of his draft position.
What we did find out is that he wasn't progressing like they thought that he would being thrown into the fire. We don't know that about Hogan. Or Kessler. And know if I had to bet something of great value I wouldn't put the money on the fact that Hogan was going to the Pro Bowl next season. But like I say we will never know.
WSS
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Might as well start Hogan. PoG is right. Hogan this game and Kessler vs the Steelers. See which one of them can stay on the roster next year.
Do we really need to see more of Deshone?
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Might as well start Hogan. PoG is right. Hogan this game and Kessler vs the Steelers. See which one of them can stay on the roster next year.
Do we really need to see more of Deshone?
Might as well start Hogan. PoG is right. Hogan this game and Kessler vs the Steelers. See which one of them can stay on the roster next year.
Do we really need to see more of Deshone?
Kessler won't last 1 series against the squeelers defense.
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Well..the new GM just said it's "imperative that Kizer start the last 2 games".
Back under the bridge for PoG.
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So, it's imperative that we lose the last two games to solidify his already overflowing draft stocking? Re-finger-u-louse.
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So, it's imperative that we lose the last two games to solidify his already overflowing draft stocking? Re-finger-u-louse.
So, it's imperative that we lose the last two games to solidify his already overflowing draft stocking? Re-finger-u-louse.
Haven't we already locked up the first pic?
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The Giants are 2-12... so theoretically if Hogan won two games and the NY lost the next two it would be a two way tie at 2-14.
The question is would you guys rather start Hogan to have a chance at a 2-14 record and pick #2 or keep playing Kizer to tank the rest of the season and remove all doubt that we're going 0-16- I mean there is the parade sponsored by Excedrin, because you know- they feel our pain...
The secret of getting ahead is getting started. The secret of getting started is breaking your complex overwhelming tasks into small manageable tasks, and then starting on the first one. -Mark Twain- "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -Mark Twain- -
So, it's imperative that we lose the last two games to solidify his already overflowing draft stocking? Re-finger-u-louse.
So, it's imperative that we lose the last two games to solidify his already overflowing draft stocking? Re-finger-u-louse.
That would happen regardless if he or Kizer plays. Like I said....I would not mind if Hogan started because I am just so fatigued at seeing that guy who has probably been responsible for more turnovers in a season than any other player in 20 years.
But I would take Kessler if it meant just not having to watch Kizer....so that is no endorsement of Hogan.
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Haven't we already locked up the first pic?
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Thought I heard that somewhere Steve. But it's possible if we would win the last two and the Giants lost the last two. Strength of schedule comes into play...
Took some digging but here's how it stands as of today. . Of course one more loss and we have the #1 overall locked up. Giants are at .541 with the Cardinals (6-8) and Redskins (6-8) left (.420%). The Browns are .510 with the Bears (4-10) and Steelers (11-3) left (.535%) .
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I'd love to see Kevin Hogan playing right on the Lake Michigan shore in late December.
It would be cool to see his noodle arm passes actually get blown back to him.
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The Giants are 2-12... so theoretically if Hogan won two games and the NY lost the next two it would be a two way tie at 2-14.
The question is would you guys rather start Hogan to have a chance at a 2-14 record and pick #2 or keep playing Kizer to tank the rest of the season and remove all doubt that we're going 0-16- I mean there is the parade sponsored by Excedrin, because you know- they feel our pain...
The Giants are 2-12... so theoretically if Hogan won two games and the NY lost the next two it would be a two way tie at 2-14.
The question is would you guys rather start Hogan to have a chance at a 2-14 record and pick #2 or keep playing Kizer to tank the rest of the season and remove all doubt that we're going 0-16- I mean there is the parade sponsored by Excedrin, because you know- they feel our pain...
I have no love for Kizer, but so what PO? At this point, who really cares? 0-16, 2-14? Personally I don't think we're winning either of the last two. See above. Looks like two Browns wins and two Giants losses, and it just might get dicey who gets the #1. I'll pencil the Steelers in with at least one more win (Houston). Thanks Pittsburgh. The #1 and #5 will be sweet.
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The Giants are 2-12... so theoretically if Hogan won two games and the NY lost the next two it would be a two way tie at 2-14.
The question is would you guys rather start Hogan to have a chance at a 2-14 record and pick #2 or keep playing Kizer to tank the rest of the season and remove all doubt that we're going 0-16- I mean there is the parade sponsored by Excedrin, because you know- they feel our pain...
I have no love for Kizer, but so what PO? At this point, who really cares? 0-16, 2-14? Personally I don't think we're winning either of the last two. See above. Looks like two Browns wins and two Giants losses, and it just might get dicey who gets the #1. I'll pencil the Steelers in with at least one more win (Houston). Thanks Pittsburgh. The #1 and #5 will be sweet.
I have no love for Kizer, but so what PO? At this point, who really cares? 0-16, 2-14? Personally I don't think we're winning either of the last two. See above. Looks like two Browns wins and two Giants losses, and it just might get dicey who gets the #1.
I really, really do not want the Browns to go 0-16. NO ONE forgets 0-16. 1-15 gets forgotten.
That being said, I'd be pretty pissed if the Browns won the next two games out of nowhere and lost out on the #1 pick.
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The Giants are 2-12... so theoretically if Hogan won two games and the NY lost the next two it would be a two way tie at 2-14.
The question is would you guys rather start Hogan to have a chance at a 2-14 record and pick #2 or keep playing Kizer to tank the rest of the season and remove all doubt that we're going 0-16- I mean there is the parade sponsored by Excedrin, because you know- they feel our pain...
I have no love for Kizer, but so what PO? At this point, who really cares? 0-16, 2-14? Personally I don't think we're winning either of the last two. See above. Looks like two Browns wins and two Giants losses, and it just might get dicey who gets the #1. I'll pencil the Steelers in with at least one more win (Houston). Thanks Pittsburgh. The #1 and #5 will be sweet.
I have no love for Kizer, but so what PO? At this point, who really cares? 0-16, 2-14? Personally I don't think we're winning either of the last two. See above. Looks like two Browns wins and two Giants losses, and it just might get dicey who gets the #1.
Kizer is the best of the 3 shitty QB's we have. Who cares though who plays. Sadly...I wouldn't mind Hogan playing so we can all watch him shit himself and then his biggest cheerleader will finally shut the fuck up.
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I have no love for Kizer, but so what PO? At this point, who really cares? 0-16, 2-14? Personally I don't think we're winning either of the last two. See above. Looks like two Browns wins and two Giants losses, and it just might get dicey who gets the #1.
I really, really do not want the Browns to go 0-16. NO ONE forgets 0-16. 1-15 gets forgotten.
That being said, I'd be pretty pissed if the Browns won the next two games out of nowhere and lost out on the #1 pick.
I really, really do not want the Browns to go 0-16. NO ONE forgets 0-16. 1-15 gets forgotten.
That being said, I'd be pretty pissed if the Browns won the next two games out of nowhere and lost out on the #1 pick.
I agree the Bucs 0-14 and Lions 0-16 are memorable. Apparently there's only one Hogan cheerleader left who really cares anymore who starts.
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I have no love for Kizer, but so what PO? At this point, who really cares? 0-16, 2-14? Personally I don't think we're winning either of the last two. See above. Looks like two Browns wins and two Giants losses, and it just might get dicey who gets the #1.
Kizer is the best of the 3 shitty QB's we have. Who cares though who plays. Sadly...I wouldn't mind Hogan playing so we can all watch him shit himself and then his biggest cheerleader will finally shut the fuck up.
Kizer is the best of the 3 shitty QB's we have. Who cares though who plays. Sadly...I wouldn't mind Hogan playing so we can all watch him Sheet himself and then his biggest cheerleader will finally shut the Shmuck up.
Hogan already looked like complete dogshit in his one start, which resulted in the "PoG Excuseapalooza Tour 2017".
I'm guessing that he'll pick a new Kevin Hogan for 2018 and trot out the same tired, pathetic shtick.
I'm hoping the mods don't miss out on a golden opportunity to auto-correct whoever his man-crush is next year to "PoG's Salad Tossee"... Oh wait, YOU are a mod, right Mark?
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I'm for Hogan starting and have been for awhile. I'm tired of all you old assholes wanting Kizer to play "to see what he's got" He has absolute Sheet. Perhaps Hogan has absolute Sheet too but Hogan has only Sheet once. Kizer 13 times! Don't act like Hogan coming in off the bench and marching it straight down the field multiple times didn't excite you. And garbage time touchdowns???? Once again... how many garbage time touchdowns does Kizer have again? Took him 13 games to throw 9 touchdowns. Hogan throws 4 in one start and a couple appearances off the bench. We got the #1 pick locked up!! Lets change something up and try not to go 0-16. Hogan or Kessler. You assholes want to keep starting Kizer because hogan had one bad game. I don't get it.
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I'm for Hogan starting and have been for awhile. I'm tired of all you old assholes wanting Kizer to play "to see what he's got" He has absolute Sheet. Perhaps Hogan has absolute Sheet too but Hogan has only Sheet once. Kizer 13 times! Don't act like Hogan coming in off the bench and marching it straight down the field multiple times didn't excite you. And garbage time touchdowns???? Once again... how many garbage time touchdowns does Kizer have again? Took him 13 games to throw 9 touchdowns. Hogan throws 4 in one start and a couple appearances off the bench. We got the #1 pick locked up!! Lets change something up and try not to go 0-16. Hogan or Kessler. You assholes want to keep starting Kizer because hogan had one bad game. I don't get it.
Only reason he is starting is because they drafted him high and because they wanted to tank the season. It has to be. Explain why else they keep starting this trainwreck?Only reason he is starting is because they drafted him high and because they wanted to tank the season. It has to be. Explain why else they keep starting this trainwreck?
Perhaps because you actually have to be somewhere near tracks to be a trainwreck. Those two just are on a different track altogether.
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