Making a case for Greg Roman for O.C.
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Speaking of Lamar Jackson, has anyone watched enough film on him to report to the scouting thread? It seems that the talking heads are torn on him. I have seen him live in two games. It appeared as if he went through some progressions but legging it seems to be his best attribute.
Speaking of Lamar Jackson, has anyone watched enough film on him to report to the scouting thread? It seems that the talking heads are torn on him. I have seen him live in two games. It appeared as if he went through some progressions but legging it seems to be his best attribute.
Aside from a small handfull of Louisville games over the past couple years - can't say I have. I've seen signs of his progression as a passer but his ability was so raw and undeveloped it would have been nearly impossible not to improve.
Im sure someone will be dumb enough to think he was on Bridgewaters level by the time he left the Cardinals.
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Speaking of Lamar Jackson, has anyone watched enough film on him to report to the scouting thread? It seems that the talking heads are torn on him. I have seen him live in two games. It appeared as if he went through some progressions but legging it seems to be his best attribute.
Aside from a small handfull of Louisville games over the past couple years - can't say I have. I've seen signs of his progression as a passer but his ability was so raw and undeveloped it would have been nearly impossible not to improve.
Im sure someone will be dumb enough to think he was on Bridgewaters level by the time he left the Cardinals.
Im sure someone will be dumb enough to think he was on Bridgewaters level by the time he left the Cardinals.
Not likely as a passer, but as an overall QB prospect? I'm already there. Much of my take is based on my concerns about Teddy's "frame" then and now. I know many, including you IIRC, have similar concerns about Jackson, but I don't. While Lamar is not "thick", neither is he slight to my eye.
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Im sure someone will be dumb enough to think he was on Bridgewaters level by the time he left the Cardinals.
Not likely as a passer, but as an overall QB prospect? I'm already there. Much of my take is based on my concerns about Teddy's "frame" then and now. I know many, including you IIRC, have similar concerns about Jackson, but I don't. While Lamar is not "thick", neither is he slight to my eye.
Not likely as a passer, but as an overall QB prospect? I'm already there. Much of my take is based on my concerns about Teddy's "frame" then and now. I know many, including you IIRC, have similar concerns about Jackson, but I don't. While Lamar is not "thick", neither is he slight to my eye.
He's a... in word, "better built" athlete than Teddy, I give him that. I do have concerns about Lamar, because while Brady has introduced muscle pliability to NFL QB's - that only goes so far when exposed to routine shots. So if Lamar isn't as evolved as Teddy being a passer, he'll have to compensate it in other areas for at minimum the time being. Thus exposing him to those routine shots not only on designed runs, but the ones he'll take in the pocket regardless.
I can't begin to endorse him as a 1st round pick. By the time it's said and done, I doubt you will as well.
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Not likely as a passer, but as an overall QB prospect? I'm already there. Much of my take is based on my concerns about Teddy's "frame" then and now. I know many, including you IIRC, have similar concerns about Jackson, but I don't. While Lamar is not "thick", neither is he slight to my eye.
He's a... in word, "better built" athlete than Teddy, I give him that. I do have concerns about Lamar, because while Brady has introduced muscle pliability to NFL QB's - that only goes so far when exposed to routine shots. So if Lamar isn't as evolved as Teddy being a passer, he'll have to compensate it in other areas for at minimum the time being. Thus exposing him to those routine shots not only on designed runs, but the ones he'll take in the pocket regardless.
I can't begin to endorse him as a 1st round pick. By the time it's said and done, I doubt you will as well.
He's a... in word, "better built" athlete than Teddy, I give him that. I do have concerns about Lamar, because while Brady has introduced muscle pliability to NFL QB's - that only goes so far when exposed to routine shots. So if Lamar isn't as evolved as Teddy being a passer, he'll have to compensate it in other areas for at minimum the time being. Thus exposing him to those routine shots not only on designed runs, but the ones he'll take in the pocket regardless.
I can't begin to endorse him as a 1st round pick. By the time it's said and done, I doubt you will as well.
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Mush mouth.
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Good kid, loves his momma... still not seeing it.
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The offensive line will really have trouble understanding him at the los.
Tremendous talented kid, though. Halfback/wr passer trick plays?
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Yea he definitely needs to get with someone to work on his speech, but from everything I've heard is a legitmatly good person. He visited my little cousins school and her parents said he was very nice.
Lamar has come along way as a passer. I didn' think he was going to be an NFL QB coming into the season. He has had to deal with a poor offensive line weak running game and an awful defense until we got Alexander and Stacy Thomas back. The most infuriating thing about him is he throws a terrible flare route to running backs. I don't understand it but that seems fixable. His accuracy is actually pretty good most of the time, but every once in a while he will throw one way off the mark.
Bottom line is if we bring him along like the Seahawks did Russell Wilson I think he can really develop. Only make him throw 15-20 times a game for the first season and once he gets comfortable give him more rope. Right now I have darnold as safer prospect for a traditional offense but Lamar could be a game changer
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The offensive line will really have trouble understanding him at the los.
Tremendous talented kid, though. Halfback/wr passer trick plays?
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Yea he definitely needs to get with someone to work on his speech, but from everything I've heard is a legitmatly good person. He visited my little cousins school and her parents said he was very nice.
Lamar has come along way as a passer. I didn' think he was going to be an NFL QB coming into the season. He has had to deal with a poor offensive line weak running game and an awful defense until we got Alexander and Stacy Thomas back. The most infuriating thing about him is he throws a terrible flare route to running backs. I don't understand it but that seems fixable. His accuracy is actually pretty good most of the time, but every once in a while he will throw one way off the mark.
Bottom line is if we bring him along like the Seahawks did Russell Wilson I think he can really develop. Only make him throw 15-20 times a game for the first season and once he gets comfortable give him more rope. Right now I have darnold as safer prospect for a traditional offense but Lamar could be a game changer
Yea he definitely needs to get with someone to work on his speech, but from everything I've heard is a legitmatly good person. He visited my little cousins school and her parents said he was very nice.
Lamar has come along way as a passer. I didn' think he was going to be an NFL QB coming into the season. He has had to deal with a poor offensive line weak running game and an awful defense until we got Alexander and Stacy Thomas back. The most infuriating thing about him is he throws a terrible flare route to running backs. I don't understand it but that seems fixable. His accuracy is actually pretty good most of the time, but every once in a while he will throw one way off the mark.
Bottom line is if we bring him along like the Seahawks did Russell Wilson I think he can really develop. Only make him throw 15-20 times a game for the first season and once he gets comfortable give him more rope. Right now I have darnold as safer prospect for a traditional offense but Lamar could be a game changer
By 'like the Seahawks did' you mean toss him out there full time as a rookie minus the stellar defense and HoF RB to take pressure off....?
If so, then yeah....totally.
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