Josh Rosen?
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http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2017/12/ucla_qb_josh_rosen_wants_to_play_for_giants_not_br.html
Well then...he's pulling an Elway/Eli after all.
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He doesn’t want to come here anyway And I don’t blame him
Wouldn't it be ironic if both Rosen and Darnold decide to stay another year to avoid being drafted by the Browns. Then we'd take Allen who will lead us to another #1 overall next year to draft yet another QB. Hopefully we are smart enough to pass on Allen and take Mayfield.
Wouldn't it be ironic if both Rosen and Darnold decide to stay another year to avoid being drafted by the Browns. Then we'd take Allen who will lead us to another #1 overall next year to draft yet another QB. Hopefully we are smart enough to pass on Allen and take Mayfield.
Sorry Browns149, I also put the link up, didn't see that you did.
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In regards to he doesn't want to play here; how many times are you gonna buy into It? This garbage comes out several times a year and is never true. I'm amazed at what people believe at face value with no proof.
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According to ESPN's Adam Schefter, UCLA QB Josh Rosen prefers to play for the Giants and would be "hesitant to come out in next year's draft" if the Browns pursue him with the first overall pick.
Rosen is still deciding whether to enter the upcoming draft, where he would likely be a first-round selection. Per Schefter, he wants no part of the Browns, however, and may be tempted to return to UCLA for his senior year if it meant avoiding Cleveland. ESPN's Todd McShay projects Rosen as the No. 1 pick while Mel Kiper has him at No 4. The winless Browns are a lock to draft a quarterback after missing on Carson Wentz and Deshaun Watson the past two years. -
War, this is exactly the point I've been making a bunch in this thread. Yes, the kid isn't as clean as a whistle but his "indiscretions" break down to:
-Wearing a stupid hat
-Making an articulate point about an issue where many people agree, although maybe could have not been said at all.
-Defending his coach against a moron fan
Everything else is nothing but heresay unless you really want to buy into stillmotions "60 friends say he sucks" bullcrap. Tell me then, how is that "a zillion red flags"? It simply isn't, and has been noted it's hard knowing this objective reality to think people are against the kid because he's wealthy and outspoken. His coach has said he's respected on several occasions, and all the chatter about him is nothing but opinionated tabloid crap.
First off, you can always boil things down to make them sound better. For example, with Johnny you can say he just defended his friend at a bar, took money for autographs (oh wait you can't say that--never proven), and partied. Pretty much like any other college kid.
Secondly, we're talking about the sheer numbers of reports coming out on him, and there are plenty. You can dismiss them all, but at some point it should be overwhelming. I mean I tried to dismiss he first few reports about Bill Cosby, but at a certain point you just have to concede it's probably true.
You're the one promoting the conspiracy theory. You want to prove he's a head case? Have at it, hoss.
But it's your job to prove your assertion item by item, not just claim randomness.
You need to demonstrate verifiable EVENTS ---- not "i heard someone say something" or "Everyone knows he's" or "There's a zillion red flags".
Of course you don't mention any specific item that is said or any specific item that everyone knows or any specific red flag...... because all those lies fall apart under strict scrutiny.
I don't believe or personally spread gossip -- rather, I think gossip points solely at the person making the assertion as someone who's not trustworthy now or ever in the future.
The reason Schiano didn't get the UT job is because McQueary is good at lying....... not because of something Schiano did.
Alot of this is just speculation. I don't deny that. I went to one of the kid's games and all HIS fans hated him and cited how much the team hates him (or at least how much Rosen hated them). Yeah that's speculation. I didn't put the guys on record. I didn't film the comments. But they do jibe with what has been the general story on this kid for three years.
But nevertheless, you have article after article saying he's an a-hole and a tool and you guys want to sweep it under the rug as some Republican revenge campaign. Sweep it under the rug if you wish, but at least be honest about what you're doing.
I know some of you guys don't follow CFB very closely (it's really obvious), but none of this is new with Rosen. It always takes the NFL draft and non-CFB fans to purify a kid's record who everyone in the college scene knows is a punk.
Why would we admit something that we do not find to be true? But nice straw-man follow up...
Sure it's hyperbole, but it's not a total straw-man when we've go people saying stuff like "oh, this story (where he does something really dumb) just makes me like him more." "Oh this story where he punched his OL in the face is actually to his credit because it shows how competitive he is."
Again, yeah, it's hyperbole, but it's also the general trajectory of this board's commentary on him.
I went to one of the kid's games and all HIS fans hated him and cited how much the team hates him (or at least how much Rosen hated them).
I never agree with War, but this time I'm fully backing him. This is 100x true. I've never met so many people dislike their college QB. My friend who teaches at UCLA's friend is a Jewish professor (UCLA) and hated Rosen because of the way the kid treated him, that's unheard of.
Like I said, he's a spoiled rich kid from California, and he'd probably refuse to play in cold Cleveland because he's a punk.
If he kid already acts like he's "better than everyone else", do you expect him to be the hardest working Cleveland Brown?
Say whatever you want, but I speculate Rosen will be a bust simply because he's an pooper even his fans hate.
Mayfield will be a success in the NFL simply because he's an pooper all his fans love. #teammayfield
Nope. You've got nothing and they've got nothing.. period.
Not everything in life can be cited. Seeing the kid play, seeing the kids hate him is one thing for war. It's a red flag, and if you think it isn't and doesn't matter at all, and Rosen leaves the Browns after we draft him and goes to Denver, i'll be saying I told you so.
Essentially you're saying let's check someone's resume, and it looks great, but when you check the references, no one wants to be around him. You check his facebook and he has no friends. You check his wife or girlfriend, and she makes Carson Wentz's look like Heidi Klum.
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According to ESPN's Adam Schefter, UCLA QB Josh Rosen prefers to play for the Giants and would be "hesitant to come out in next year's draft" if the Browns pursue him with the first overall pick.
Rosen is still deciding whether to enter the upcoming draft, where he would likely be a first-round selection. Per Schefter, he wants no part of the Browns, however, and may be tempted to return to UCLA for his senior year if it meant avoiding Cleveland. ESPN's Todd McShay projects Rosen as the No. 1 pick while Mel Kiper has him at No 4. The winless Browns are a lock to draft a quarterback after missing on Carson Wentz and Deshaun Watson the past two years.According to ESPN's Adam Schefter, UCLA QB Josh Rosen prefers to play for the Giants and would be "hesitant to come out in next year's draft" if the Browns pursue him with the first overall pick.
Rosen is still deciding whether to enter the upcoming draft, where he would likely be a first-round selection. Per Schefter, he wants no part of the Browns, however, and may be tempted to return to UCLA for his senior year if it meant avoiding Cleveland. ESPN's Todd McShay projects Rosen as the No. 1 pick while Mel Kiper has him at No 4. The winless Browns are a lock to draft a quarterback after missing on Carson Wentz and Deshaun Watson the past two years.Yeah, and this is the kid everyone on the board thinks will be the next Joe Montana.
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What a F U C K stick.
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According to ESPN's Adam Schefter, UCLA QB Josh Rosen prefers to play for the Giants and would be "hesitant to come out in next year's draft" if the Browns pursue him with the first overall pick.
Rosen is still deciding whether to enter the upcoming draft, where he would likely be a first-round selection. Per Schefter, he wants no part of the Browns, however, and may be tempted to return to UCLA for his senior year if it meant avoiding Cleveland. ESPN's Todd McShay projects Rosen as the No. 1 pick while Mel Kiper has him at No 4. The winless Browns are a lock to draft a quarterback after missing on Carson Wentz and Deshaun Watson the past two years.Yeah, and this is the kid everyone on the board thinks will be the next Joe Montana.
Yeah, and this is the kid everyone on the board thinks will be the next Joe Montana.
No everyone, literally every poster, determined Rosen was the greatest NFL QB of all time.
Is that how this game is played? You seem to be personally offended that not everyone thinks Mayfield is a better prospect than Rosen.
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Rosen is a better NFL prospect then Mayfield. IMO
Mayfield is a great college QB but his skills in college are not going to transfer to the NFL as well as Rosen’s skills will
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I don't think that is it at all. But evaluating a qb - there IS leadership and love for the game involved, and a hell of a lot of work ethic, etc. I don't see much of the intangibles in rosen that I look for - Ryan Leaf, Jimmy Claussen, Jeff George, Johnny Manziel, etc etc etc. I wish I could refind that article where rosen admits he has a perception problem with women in sororities on his campus. He has a few women friends who have made sure he knows, it seems. But he is so arrogant and abrasive, he doesn't care. At least Manziel was likeable when sober.
And just remember - the freshman qb who is taking rosen's place in the bowl game? has outstanding stats too. Go figure.
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According to ESPN's Adam Schefter, UCLA QB Josh Rosen prefers to play for the Giants and would be "hesitant to come out in next year's draft" if the Browns pursue him with the first overall pick.
Rosen is still deciding whether to enter the upcoming draft, where he would likely be a first-round selection. Per Schefter, he wants no part of the Browns, however, and may be tempted to return to UCLA for his senior year if it meant avoiding Cleveland. ESPN's Todd McShay projects Rosen as the No. 1 pick while Mel Kiper has him at No 4. The winless Browns are a lock to draft a quarterback after missing on Carson Wentz and Deshaun Watson the past two years.According to ESPN's Adam Schefter, UCLA QB Josh Rosen prefers to play for the Giants and would be "hesitant to come out in next year's draft" if the Browns pursue him with the first overall pick.
Rosen is still deciding whether to enter the upcoming draft, where he would likely be a first-round selection. Per Schefter, he wants no part of the Browns, however, and may be tempted to return to UCLA for his senior year if it meant avoiding Cleveland. ESPN's Todd McShay projects Rosen as the No. 1 pick while Mel Kiper has him at No 4. The winless Browns are a lock to draft a quarterback after missing on Carson Wentz and Deshaun Watson the past two years.Schefter almost verbatim made the same report about darnold and it was flat out false. How naive can you people be? It really saddens me how much people believe based on nothing.
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Mayfield doesn’t have the best reputation off the field either. And his skills are not as good as Rosen’s
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Yeah, and this is the kid everyone on the board thinks will be the next Joe Montana.
No everyone, literally every poster, determined Rosen was the greatest NFL QB of all time.
Is that how this game is played? You seem to be personally offended that not everyone thinks Mayfield is a better prospect than Rosen.
You seem to be personally offended that not everyone thinks Mayfield is a better prospect than Rosen.
I'm just dumbfounded that very few people on the board think character is a concern with Rosen, yet hate Mayfield mainly because of character.
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if the giants want him they should have to pay dearly to move up to #1
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Rosen is a better NFL prospect then Mayfield. IMO
Mayfield is a great college QB but his skills in college are not going to transfer to the NFL as well as Rosen’s skills will
Rosen is a better NFL prospect then Mayfield. IMO
Mayfield is a great college QB but his skills in college are not going to transfer to the NFL as well as Rosen’s skills will
True, and not true. Mayfield has outstanding intangibles - leadership, love for the game...but he's made some mistakes off the field. He's apologized.
Rosen has outstanding physical passing stats and abilities, but lacks what Mayfield has. Teammates LOVE Josh Allen, and Mayfield, and others. Rosen, "der". not so much at all. The mistakes he has made off the field- he doesn't apologize for - he's not going to. Rules, People.... don't matter to him - he's rich and privileged. I just don't buy his act.
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"League sources"
Translation - "Horseshi t"
Wouldn't pay it any mind.
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Intangibles are great but they don’t complete passes from the pocket. Running around playing street ball works in college. And that’s why guys love playing with him
But in the pros the Qb needs to win from the pocket FIRST. And I think Rosen is much better at that
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