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  • PoeticGP PoeticG

    All I'm saying is exercise your due diligence and don't just burn a number 1 overall pick on a Quarterback that will still be there in the second round. 

    Avoid the knee jerk reaction to REACH for a QB #1 overall at all costs. You have to take the best player. 

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    @poeticg said:

    All I'm saying is exercise your due diligence and don't just burn a number 1 overall pick on a Quarterback that will still be there in the second round. 

    Avoid the knee jerk reaction to REACH for a QB #1 overall at all costs. You have to take the best player. 

    If Rosen declares I stick with him. Darnold, maybe if Rosen stays @UCLA.

    And highlights tell me nothing. I have watched all in games which are far better evaluations than highlights. I could send out my racquetball highlights and you'd wonder why I wasn't in the record books for best ever @ 70 and over. Some of my shots on any given two hour period look like they were fired by a laser into the crack in the front corners. But that would leave out 90+% of reality which some days just bites.

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      B beare wrote on last edited by beare
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      we got to get a qb till we do expect crappy team so i say go qb then nab barkley.

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        RichiswhereR Richiswhere wrote on last edited by
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        What an impressive 6 game stretch he had this season 100 carries 381 yards............HELLO   where did you go!!!!!!!!!!!!!

        "You see the Rams are still thinking that they are playing Tony Dorsett" -Jim Brown 1978
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          What an impressive 6 game stretch he had this season 100 carries 381 yards............HELLO   where did you go!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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          @richiswhere said:

          What an impressive 6 game stretch he had this season 100 carries 381 yards............HELLO   where did you go!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          The Barkley fans just ignore this.

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            MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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            1) If PoG loves him it's probably a bad pick

            2) Barkley disappeared for part of the year

            3) We aren't 1 HB away from a playoff spot. HBs can be found late. Taking one this early is buying high on a lower need we can get with a later pick.

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              TopDawg31T TopDawg31 wrote on last edited by
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              #1 for a guy that had only 4 100 yrd games? Yeah that sounds about right to go along with our 17 #1 pick that gets 1 Tackle a game. I'm seeing a pattern here.

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                OrionO Orion wrote on last edited by Orion
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                I watched some of that highlight real.

                Barkley is good...and he's FAST.  But that #10 guy seems to catch up to him before he reaches the end zone.  #10 is WICKED fast.

                We need a QB.

                The QB trumps a RB.  It's like the Queen to the Rook in chess.

                We've gotta pick the best damn QB in this draft.  And THEN work on the rest of the team.   (I cannot overstate my position on this.  Pretend I carved it in stone)

                Myles Garrett was 'off the charts' better than anyone else in last year's draft.  And do ya know how many touchdown passes he threw for us this year?  Fuggin' None!   We lost every fuggin' game this year because we can't throw a goddamn touchdown pass.

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                  How is Saquon a lock at the first RB taken? He had 4 games over 100 yds this season. That's hardly dominant. It's not like he was playing the Buckeyes or Bama each game. 

                  JK Dobbins put up better numbers as a true freshman than Barkley did as a Jr. I don't get all the hype for him, especially in rd 1. 

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                  • PoeticGP PoeticG

                    Say-Gone  BARKLEY! 

                    Game Changer. 

                    We have 2 picks in the top 5 of the draft. 

                    Nothing says we have to take the guy #1 overall. 

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                    @poeticg said:

                    Say-Gone  BARKLEY! 

                    Game Changer. 

                    We have 2 picks in the top 5 of the draft. 

                    Nothing says we have to take the guy #1 overall. 

                    And we won't. Dorsey isn't that dumb. It's plain as mud we're taking a qb with the first pick. If Rosen doesn't declare, (or only wants to play for the Giants) he's not the only fish in this very deep QB class. It will cost the G-Men plenty to swap picks, and this year second best isn't going to be chopped liver. 

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                    • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody

                      1) If PoG loves him it's probably a bad pick

                      2) Barkley disappeared for part of the year

                      3) We aren't 1 HB away from a playoff spot. HBs can be found late. Taking one this early is buying high on a lower need we can get with a later pick.

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                      @mld-woody said:

                      1) If PoG loves him it's probably a bad pick

                      2) Barkley disappeared for part of the year

                      3) We aren't 1 HB away from a playoff spot. HBs can be found late. Taking one this early is buying high on a lower need we can get with a later pick.

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                      I tend to agree but doesn't it seem like Adrian Peterson and Ezekiel Elliott made significant improvements to the Vikings and Cowboys?

                      (But I like PoG)

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                        MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                        We're not a team where one HB will make a big difference. We don't have Romo//Dak, Their OL, Dez, etc. 

                        An elite DB will help this team more in the long run than an elite HB

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                          We're not a team where one HB will make a big difference. We don't have Romo//Dak, Their OL, Dez, etc. 

                          An elite DB will help this team more in the long run than an elite HB

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                          @mld-woody said:

                          We're not a team where one HB will make a big difference. We don't have Romo//Dak, Their OL, Dez, etc. 

                          An elite DB will help this team more in the long run than an elite HB

                          True enough. And of course I wouldn't take him with the first pick. Just that if we have number 1 and number 4 he might still be there. I wouldn't be upset with Fitzgerald either. Giants will go quarterback. Who's next?

                          Also I'm not sure how much hype is involved. Still there would be some great DBs in the second round too.

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                          • PoeticGP PoeticG

                            All I'm saying is exercise your due diligence and don't just burn a number 1 overall pick on a Quarterback that will still be there in the second round. 

                            Avoid the knee jerk reaction to REACH for a QB #1 overall at all costs. You have to take the best player. 

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                            jiggins7919J jiggins7919 wrote on last edited by
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                            @poeticg said:

                            All I'm saying is exercise your due diligence and don't just burn a number 1 overall pick on a Quarterback that will still be there in the second round. 

                            Avoid the knee jerk reaction to REACH for a QB #1 overall at all costs. You have to take the best player. 

                            I strongly agree with you that it doesn't have to be a QB, but I also feel like we HAVE to get our highest rated QB at any cost. Last year we got cute. We tried to have our cake and eat it by drafting other positions early, trading back (yet again), and then selecting our QB in the 2nd round. This year we need to get the guy we have ranked the highest. Even if we're picking 6th in the draft, that leaves 4 other teams who could draft our QB if we select someone else at 1. Can we REALLY afford that? 

                            Even if we sign a veteran QB, we need to get our guy. We just can't get cute again. 

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                              There is no way the top qbs are lasting until the second round. 

                              If a qb lasts past early first rd,  he's probably as crappy as every other qb we've drafted outside of the top ten 

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                              • PoeticGP PoeticG

                                Say-Gone  BARKLEY! 

                                Game Changer. 

                                We have 2 picks in the top 5 of the draft. 

                                Nothing says we have to take the guy #1 overall. 

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                                The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                                @poeticg said:

                                Say-Gone  BARKLEY! 

                                Game Changer. 

                                We have 2 picks in the top 5 of the draft. 

                                Nothing says we have to take the guy #1 overall. 

                                Saigon Barkley?  Yea, we could all be running for roofs hoping to get picked up by helicopters if we go with Saigon Barkley.

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                                  I watched some of that highlight real.

                                  Barkley is good...and he's FAST.  But that #10 guy seems to catch up to him before he reaches the end zone.  #10 is WICKED fast.

                                  We need a QB.

                                  The QB trumps a RB.  It's like the Queen to the Rook in chess.

                                  We've gotta pick the best damn QB in this draft.  And THEN work on the rest of the team.   (I cannot overstate my position on this.  Pretend I carved it in stone)

                                  Myles Garrett was 'off the charts' better than anyone else in last year's draft.  And do ya know how many touchdown passes he threw for us this year?  Fuggin' None!   We lost every fuggin' game this year because we can't throw a goddamn touchdown pass.

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                                  The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                                  @orion said:

                                  I watched some of that highlight real.

                                  Barkley is good...and he's FAST.  But that #10 guy seems to catch up to him before he reaches the end zone.  #10 is WICKED fast.

                                  We need a QB.

                                  The QB trumps a RB.  It's like the Queen to the Rook in chess.

                                  We've gotta pick the best damn QB in this draft.  And THEN work on the rest of the team.   (I cannot overstate my position on this.  Pretend I carved it in stone)

                                  Myles Garrett was 'off the charts' better than anyone else in last year's draft.  And do ya know how many touchdown passes he threw for us this year?  Fuggin' None!   We lost every fuggin' game this year because we can't throw a goddamn touchdown pass.

                                  Interesting.   Comparing football players to Chess pieces.   Agree....that a QB is like the Queen.   But I think that a WR is more like the Rook...unless it is a Duke Johnson type:  hybrid RB/WR.    RBs more often would be like the Bishop.   And TEs would be the Knights.  Naturally....the OL are the Pawns.

                                  And the HC is the King.  Not greatly in the game himself....but he directs everyone else.

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                                    @orion said:

                                    I watched some of that highlight real.

                                    Barkley is good...and he's FAST.  But that #10 guy seems to catch up to him before he reaches the end zone.  #10 is WICKED fast.

                                    We need a QB.

                                    The QB trumps a RB.  It's like the Queen to the Rook in chess.

                                    We've gotta pick the best damn QB in this draft.  And THEN work on the rest of the team.   (I cannot overstate my position on this.  Pretend I carved it in stone)

                                    Myles Garrett was 'off the charts' better than anyone else in last year's draft.  And do ya know how many touchdown passes he threw for us this year?  Fuggin' None!   We lost every fuggin' game this year because we can't throw a goddamn touchdown pass.

                                    Interesting.   Comparing football players to Chess pieces.   Agree....that a QB is like the Queen.   But I think that a WR is more like the Rook...unless it is a Duke Johnson type:  hybrid RB/WR.    RBs more often would be like the Bishop.   And TEs would be the Knights.  Naturally....the OL are the Pawns.

                                    And the HC is the King.  Not greatly in the game himself....but he directs everyone else.

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                                    @the-gipper said:

                                    Interesting.   Comparing football players to Chess pieces.   Agree....that a QB is like the Queen.   But I think that a WR is more like the Rook...unless it is a Duke Johnson type:  hybrid RB/WR.    RBs more often would be like the Bishop.   And TEs would be the Knights.  Naturally....the OL are the Pawns.

                                    And the HC is the King.  Not greatly in the game himself....but he directs everyone else.

                                    That explains everything. The King keeps forgetting how to us his chess clock.

                                    @westside-steve said:

                                    True enough. And of course I wouldn't take him with the first pick. Just that if we have number 1 and number 4 he might still be there. I wouldn't be upset with Fitzgerald either. Giants will go quarterback. Who's next?

                                    Also I'm not sure how much hype is involved. Still there would be some great DBs in the second round too.

                                    WSS

                                    3rd to pick would be the Colts if all remains the same after next weekend. And we would be 4th.

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                                      @orion said:

                                      I watched some of that highlight real.

                                      Barkley is good...and he's FAST.  But that #10 guy seems to catch up to him before he reaches the end zone.  #10 is WICKED fast.

                                      We need a QB.

                                      The QB trumps a RB.  It's like the Queen to the Rook in chess.

                                      We've gotta pick the best damn QB in this draft.  And THEN work on the rest of the team.   (I cannot overstate my position on this.  Pretend I carved it in stone)

                                      Myles Garrett was 'off the charts' better than anyone else in last year's draft.  And do ya know how many touchdown passes he threw for us this year?  Fuggin' None!   We lost every fuggin' game this year because we can't throw a goddamn touchdown pass.

                                      Interesting.   Comparing football players to Chess pieces.   Agree....that a QB is like the Queen.   But I think that a WR is more like the Rook...unless it is a Duke Johnson type:  hybrid RB/WR.    RBs more often would be like the Bishop.   And TEs would be the Knights.  Naturally....the OL are the Pawns.

                                      And the HC is the King.  Not greatly in the game himself....but he directs everyone else.

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                                      @the-gipper said:

                                      But I think that a WR is more like the Rook

                                      OK.  They line up wide.  (my thinking was as a straight ahead runner while the bishops weave their way down field)

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                                        @the-gipper said:

                                        Interesting.   Comparing football players to Chess pieces.   Agree....that a QB is like the Queen.   But I think that a WR is more like the Rook...unless it is a Duke Johnson type:  hybrid RB/WR.    RBs more often would be like the Bishop.   And TEs would be the Knights.  Naturally....the OL are the Pawns.

                                        And the HC is the King.  Not greatly in the game himself....but he directs everyone else.

                                        That explains everything. The King keeps forgetting how to us his chess clock.

                                        @westside-steve said:

                                        True enough. And of course I wouldn't take him with the first pick. Just that if we have number 1 and number 4 he might still be there. I wouldn't be upset with Fitzgerald either. Giants will go quarterback. Who's next?

                                        Also I'm not sure how much hype is involved. Still there would be some great DBs in the second round too.

                                        WSS

                                        3rd to pick would be the Colts if all remains the same after next weekend. And we would be 4th.

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                                        @texasag1969 said:

                                        3rd to pick would be the Colts if all remains the same after next weekend. And we would be 4th.

                                        I'm not 100% certain, but I don't think it matters if the Colts win or lose (to the Colts that is).  I think they remain picking 3rd due to strength of schedule.

                                        And it may be possible for Houston to fall to #7 with a win against Indy (with the final changes being made to strength of schedule)

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                                          @texasag1969 said:

                                          3rd to pick would be the Colts if all remains the same after next weekend. And we would be 4th.

                                          I'm not 100% certain, but I don't think it matters if the Colts win or lose (to the Colts that is).  I think they remain picking 3rd due to strength of schedule.

                                          And it may be possible for Houston to fall to #7 with a win against Indy (with the final changes being made to strength of schedule)

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                                          @orion said:

                                          I'm not 100% certain, but I don't think it matters if the Colts win or lose (to the Colts that is).  I think they remain picking 3rd due to strength of schedule.

                                          And it may be possible for Houston to fall to #7 with a win against Indy (with the final changes being made to strength of schedule)

                                          We are rooting for the Colts this week, but it just may not be in the cards. I don't think they can stop Houston's WR star DeAndre Hopkins.

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