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  • This narrative on Garrett being injured, really is horseschidt. This is similar to people saying that Kosar was the smartest QB in the league. It is something one can never defend. In Garretts case, I don't believe anyone here believes right now that he looks like a #1 #1 should look. He is okay, but nobody has been overwhelmed by his performance.

    So, what do his fans do? Do they admit that he probably was taken way too high. OR............do they create and  believe a narrative that he is actually playing injured and when healthy next year, will be 2x better. Guys, even if he is 10 % better, he isn't exactly scaring anyone. He is an NFL caliber DE. He is NOT a monster of the midway, an intimidator or a game changer. Like him. That's fine, but don't make up pretend crap anout how he is going to become something he is not.

    There is just as much probability that he is going to keep getting injured.

    @ghoolie said:

    This narrative on Garrett being injured, really is horseschidt. This is similar to people saying that Kosar was the smartest QB in the league. It is something one can never defend. In Garretts case, I don't believe anyone here believes right now that he looks like a #1 #1 should look. He is okay, but nobody has been overwhelmed by his performance.

    So, what do his fans do? Do they admit that he probably was taken way too high. OR............do they create and  believe a narrative that he is actually playing injured and when healthy next year, will be 2x better. Guys, even if he is 10 % better, he isn't exactly scaring anyone. He is an NFL caliber DE. He is NOT a monster of the midway, an intimidator or a game changer. Like him. That's fine, but don't make up pretend crap anout how he is going to become something he is not.

    There is just as much probability that he is going to keep getting injured.

    the fact he hasn't been 100% isn't debateable. Watching him limp off the field a couple times this year is a clear indicator. People said this same stuff about Clowney when he came back from surgery and wasn't quite 100% yet. Once he did work his way back to healthy he was a monster as his original draft stock predicted. That's why it's a wait and see with Garrett. I mean if we get someone in here that's head and shoulders above him fine, obviously you replace a piece if a better piece comes along. Garretts skillset if we can pair him with a veteran DE, we really should have something special coming off the edges. 

  • @topdawg31 said:

    sorry war im a Browns season ticket holder

    Then act like it.

    @wargograw said:

    Then act like it.

    Oooh, ahh, 0-15 is just wonderful? Seriously, I'm not going to rub it in (much) on yet another pathetic performance. This dumpster fire that I used to get emotionally involved in isn't even worth getting upset over anymore when they lose another one. To be honest I missed watching almost all of the game travelling over to Indianapolis to spend Christmas Eve with the in laws. (Just got back) Know what? I didn't even care.  I've got the game on my DVR, and I'm not even sure I'm going to waste my time watching it. I was able to listen to much of the first half. Was talking with Flugels at halftime, and he filled me in on the beautiful interception in the End Zone. Saw some of the lowlights on NFLN. Told sister in law (Bears Fan) just watch, I feel a fumble near the goal line coming on. Bingo!!  Lining up offsides on a pick six. Football follies, it's getting funny. 

    We'll see if Hue really will jump in the Lake- Dorsey might save him the ignominy by firing him first. 

    & War- when the hardest of the hardcore fans don't care about the losses anymore, Jimmy has officially lost the fanbase. Like the Cubs of decades past, the Brown are now the "Lovable Losers". Expect to lose, a win is a bonus. 

  • @wargograw said:

    Then act like it.

    Oooh, ahh, 0-15 is just wonderful? Seriously, I'm not going to rub it in (much) on yet another pathetic performance. This dumpster fire that I used to get emotionally involved in isn't even worth getting upset over anymore when they lose another one. To be honest I missed watching almost all of the game travelling over to Indianapolis to spend Christmas Eve with the in laws. (Just got back) Know what? I didn't even care.  I've got the game on my DVR, and I'm not even sure I'm going to waste my time watching it. I was able to listen to much of the first half. Was talking with Flugels at halftime, and he filled me in on the beautiful interception in the End Zone. Saw some of the lowlights on NFLN. Told sister in law (Bears Fan) just watch, I feel a fumble near the goal line coming on. Bingo!!  Lining up offsides on a pick six. Football follies, it's getting funny. 

    We'll see if Hue really will jump in the Lake- Dorsey might save him the ignominy by firing him first. 

    & War- when the hardest of the hardcore fans don't care about the losses anymore, Jimmy has officially lost the fanbase. Like the Cubs of decades past, the Brown are now the "Lovable Losers". Expect to lose, a win is a bonus. 

    @hoorta said:

    Oooh, ahh, 0-15 is just wonderful? Seriously, I'm not going to rub it in (much) on yet another pathetic performance. This dumpster fire that I used to get emotionally involved in isn't even worth getting upset over anymore when they lose another one. To be honest I missed watching almost all of the game travelling over to Indianapolis to spend Christmas Eve with the in laws. (Just got back) Know what? I didn't even care.  I've got the game on my DVR, and I'm not even sure I'm going to waste my time watching it. I was able to listen to much of the first half. Was talking with Flugels at halftime, and he filled me in on the beautiful interception in the End Zone. Saw some of the lowlights on NFLN. Told sister in law (Bears Fan) just watch, I feel a fumble near the goal line coming on. Bingo!!  Lining up offsides on a pick six. Football follies, it's getting funny. 

    & War- when the hardest of the hardcore fans don't care about the losses anymore, Jimmy has officially lost the fanbase. Like the Cubs of decades past, the Brown are now the "Lovable Losers". Expect to lose, a win is a bonus. 

    I was thinking the same lovable losers term yesterday. Baseball is different tho. For football,,,drop the lovable part. They have looked horrible, terrible and amateurish but certainly not lovable. So they're just losers. Go Cav's, Go Tribe... Browns???????!

  • THEY BOTH SUCK end thread

  • THEY BOTH SUCK end thread

    @warriorsrpussies said:

    THEY BOTH SUCK end thread

    This thread will live in infamy.

  • @clevfan4life said:

    Finally u give an objective analysis. We also have reservations about garrett, mainly on his ankle durability. He's shown he can still be productive tho even when not at 100%. Its one of those we shall see things, just like clowneys situation. But im glad ur acknowledging his raw skill set even if he ends up not veing durable enough to utilize his full range if skills. 

    Ive been saying fir weeks now we need a veteran DE opposite him. Maybe ansah? I dunno, right now he looks to be the best FA DE. Or maybe we can trade for someone i dunno. Perhaps some team has a DE they know is leaving in a year so they'd be happy to get something for him before he bolts....id be happy to package some combo of og, nas and orchard for a legit top 10 DE. 

    I haven't given up on Ogbah yet. The two just did not play enough games together due to injuries to each in turn. However I also think they need one more true pass rusher in the rotation besides them.

    @texasag1969 said:

    I haven't given up on Ogbah yet. The two just did not play enough games together due to injuries to each in turn. However I also think they need one more true pass rusher in the rotation besides them.

    Interestingly, I listened to a couple.of.the games on Sirius radio but with the opponents announcers. They were all impressed with Ogbah and called him a one man wrecking crew

  • @warriorsrpussies said:

    THEY BOTH SUCK end thread

    This thread will live in infamy.

    @topdawg31 said:

    This thread will live in infamy.

    Of all Ghoolie's fake accounts, you are the most mediocre.

  • @wargograw said:

    Then act like it.

    Oooh, ahh, 0-15 is just wonderful? Seriously, I'm not going to rub it in (much) on yet another pathetic performance. This dumpster fire that I used to get emotionally involved in isn't even worth getting upset over anymore when they lose another one. To be honest I missed watching almost all of the game travelling over to Indianapolis to spend Christmas Eve with the in laws. (Just got back) Know what? I didn't even care.  I've got the game on my DVR, and I'm not even sure I'm going to waste my time watching it. I was able to listen to much of the first half. Was talking with Flugels at halftime, and he filled me in on the beautiful interception in the End Zone. Saw some of the lowlights on NFLN. Told sister in law (Bears Fan) just watch, I feel a fumble near the goal line coming on. Bingo!!  Lining up offsides on a pick six. Football follies, it's getting funny. 

    We'll see if Hue really will jump in the Lake- Dorsey might save him the ignominy by firing him first. 

    & War- when the hardest of the hardcore fans don't care about the losses anymore, Jimmy has officially lost the fanbase. Like the Cubs of decades past, the Brown are now the "Lovable Losers". Expect to lose, a win is a bonus. 

    @hoorta said:

    Oooh, ahh, 0-15 is just wonderful? Seriously, I'm not going to rub it in (much) on yet another pathetic performance. This dumpster fire that I used to get emotionally involved in isn't even worth getting upset over anymore when they lose another one. To be honest I missed watching almost all of the game travelling over to Indianapolis to spend Christmas Eve with the in laws. (Just got back) Know what? I didn't even care.  I've got the game on my DVR, and I'm not even sure I'm going to waste my time watching it. I was able to listen to much of the first half. Was talking with Flugels at halftime, and he filled me in on the beautiful interception in the End Zone. Saw some of the lowlights on NFLN. Told sister in law (Bears Fan) just watch, I feel a fumble near the goal line coming on. Bingo!!  Lining up offsides on a pick six. Football follies, it's getting funny. 

    We'll see if Hue really will jump in the Lake- Dorsey might save him the ignominy by firing him first. 

    & War- when the hardest of the hardcore fans don't care about the losses anymore, Jimmy has officially lost the fanbase. Like the Cubs of decades past, the Brown are now the "Lovable Losers". Expect to lose, a win is a bonus. 

    I didn't read most of this post. But as for the last couple lines. You're still here, so is "topdawg." Jimmy hasn't lost a thing.

  • @hoorta said:

    Oooh, ahh, 0-15 is just wonderful? Seriously, I'm not going to rub it in (much) on yet another pathetic performance. This dumpster fire that I used to get emotionally involved in isn't even worth getting upset over anymore when they lose another one. To be honest I missed watching almost all of the game travelling over to Indianapolis to spend Christmas Eve with the in laws. (Just got back) Know what? I didn't even care.  I've got the game on my DVR, and I'm not even sure I'm going to waste my time watching it. I was able to listen to much of the first half. Was talking with Flugels at halftime, and he filled me in on the beautiful interception in the End Zone. Saw some of the lowlights on NFLN. Told sister in law (Bears Fan) just watch, I feel a fumble near the goal line coming on. Bingo!!  Lining up offsides on a pick six. Football follies, it's getting funny. 

    We'll see if Hue really will jump in the Lake- Dorsey might save him the ignominy by firing him first. 

    & War- when the hardest of the hardcore fans don't care about the losses anymore, Jimmy has officially lost the fanbase. Like the Cubs of decades past, the Brown are now the "Lovable Losers". Expect to lose, a win is a bonus. 

    I didn't read most of this post. But as for the last couple lines. You're still here, so is "topdawg." Jimmy hasn't lost a thing.

    @wargograw said:

    I didn't read most of this post. But as for the last couple lines. You're still here, so is "topdawg." Jimmy hasn't lost a thing.

    Did you happen to notice all of those empty seats?

  • @wargograw said:

    I didn't read most of this post. But as for the last couple lines. You're still here, so is "topdawg." Jimmy hasn't lost a thing.

    Did you happen to notice all of those empty seats?

    @canton-dawg said:

    Did you happen to notice all of those empty seats?

    Is the stadium half full or half empty.....................inquiring minds want to know.😛

  • @texasag1969 said:

    I haven't given up on Ogbah yet. The two just did not play enough games together due to injuries to each in turn. However I also think they need one more true pass rusher in the rotation besides them.

    Interestingly, I listened to a couple.of.the games on Sirius radio but with the opponents announcers. They were all impressed with Ogbah and called him a one man wrecking crew

    @ghoolie said:

    Interestingly, I listened to a couple.of.the games on Sirius radio but with the opponents announcers. They were all impressed with Ogbah and called him a one man wrecking crew

    He does us no good if he is out injured.   So, he only has wrecked himself apparently.

  • @topdawg31 said:

    This thread will live in infamy.

    Of all Ghoolie's fake accounts, you are the most mediocre.

    @dutch-oven said:

    Of all Ghoolie's fake accounts, you are the most mediocre.

    Ghoolie's a legend, can't help that I'm a realist and see this Sheet show from the same perspective that he does. We are not the same, you are as blind about that as you are about all the Hall of Fame players that are currently on this roster. I have copied his 1 tackle texas nickname as it fits Garrett to a tee. 

  • @hoorta said:

    Oooh, ahh, 0-15 is just wonderful? Seriously, I'm not going to rub it in (much) on yet another pathetic performance. This dumpster fire that I used to get emotionally involved in isn't even worth getting upset over anymore when they lose another one. To be honest I missed watching almost all of the game travelling over to Indianapolis to spend Christmas Eve with the in laws. (Just got back) Know what? I didn't even care.  I've got the game on my DVR, and I'm not even sure I'm going to waste my time watching it. I was able to listen to much of the first half. Was talking with Flugels at halftime, and he filled me in on the beautiful interception in the End Zone. Saw some of the lowlights on NFLN. Told sister in law (Bears Fan) just watch, I feel a fumble near the goal line coming on. Bingo!!  Lining up offsides on a pick six. Football follies, it's getting funny. 

    We'll see if Hue really will jump in the Lake- Dorsey might save him the ignominy by firing him first. 

    & War- when the hardest of the hardcore fans don't care about the losses anymore, Jimmy has officially lost the fanbase. Like the Cubs of decades past, the Brown are now the "Lovable Losers". Expect to lose, a win is a bonus. 

    I didn't read most of this post. But as for the last couple lines. You're still here, so is "topdawg." Jimmy hasn't lost a thing.

    @wargograw said:

    I didn't read most of this post. But as for the last couple lines. You're still here, so is "topdawg." Jimmy hasn't lost a thing.

    Really? 

    1) I didn't know that Jimmy takes a cut from The Browns Board..... Glad you set us straight.

    2) All those empty seats and plummeting season ticket renewals...... and yet "Jimmy hasn't lost a thing"

    3) All those empty seats resulting in lost parking revenue and concession sales..... and yet "Jimmy hasn't lost a thing"

    4) People like me who didn't see a SINGLE phucking Browns snap last week for the 1st time since 1980ish....... and not because I was away from my TV, but because I watched EVERY single Rams snap instead..... and yet "Jimmy hasn't lost a thing"

    5) People like me who no longer give a  s h i t  about this team, and while some will come back if the Browns ever resemble a real NFL team again, most of us will never come back because life is too short to to waste any more time and energy with this embarrassing "pro" sports franchise...... and yet "Jimmy hasn't lost a thing"

    Yep Jimmy, you're doing great....... keep it up..... we'll all still be here no matter what..... You haven't lost a thing. 

  • @texasag1969 said:

    I haven't given up on Ogbah yet. The two just did not play enough games together due to injuries to each in turn. However I also think they need one more true pass rusher in the rotation besides them.

    Interestingly, I listened to a couple.of.the games on Sirius radio but with the opponents announcers. They were all impressed with Ogbah and called him a one man wrecking crew

    @ghoolie said:

    Interestingly, I listened to a couple.of.the games on Sirius radio but with the opponents announcers. They were all impressed with Ogbah and called him a one man wrecking crew

    you got sucked in by announcers who have nothing else to talk about when it comes to the browns. So one guy makes a good play and they give him an immediate 2 minute long straight **Mask** with some prostate play thrown in. I hear it every sunday. The fact is everyone on that team has made one or two good plays throughout the season. For every good play Ogbah's made, he's made countless mistakes in the run game and his edge rushing is nonexistent. He's a stiff, he has no idea how to go carve the edge. If he doesn't catch the RT with a straight bull...his rush is finished. 

  • @ghoolie said:

    Interestingly, I listened to a couple.of.the games on Sirius radio but with the opponents announcers. They were all impressed with Ogbah and called him a one man wrecking crew

    you got sucked in by announcers who have nothing else to talk about when it comes to the browns. So one guy makes a good play and they give him an immediate 2 minute long straight **Mask** with some prostate play thrown in. I hear it every sunday. The fact is everyone on that team has made one or two good plays throughout the season. For every good play Ogbah's made, he's made countless mistakes in the run game and his edge rushing is nonexistent. He's a stiff, he has no idea how to go carve the edge. If he doesn't catch the RT with a straight bull...his rush is finished. 

    @clevfan4life said:

    you got sucked in by announcers who have nothing else to talk about when it comes to the browns. So one guy makes a good play and they give him an immediate 2 minute long straight **Mask** with some prostate play thrown in. I hear it every sunday. The fact is everyone on that team has made one or two good plays throughout the season. For every good play Ogbah's made, he's made countless mistakes in the run game and his edge rushing is nonexistent. He's a stiff, he has no idea how to go carve the edge. If he doesn't catch the RT with a straight bull...his rush is finished. 

    I got sucked into nothing. Ogbah's number gets called a fukck lot more than Garrett's number does. NO matter what network you listen to. It is BROWNS fans who get sucked into propaganda. 0 -15, and you have the majority of Browns fans who believe this team is on the right path.

  • @dutch-oven said:

    Of all Ghoolie's fake accounts, you are the most mediocre.

    Ghoolie's a legend, can't help that I'm a realist and see this Sheet show from the same perspective that he does. We are not the same, you are as blind about that as you are about all the Hall of Fame players that are currently on this roster. I have copied his 1 tackle texas nickname as it fits Garrett to a tee. 

    @topdawg31 said:

    Ghoolie's a legend, can't help that I'm a realist and see this Sheet show from the same perspective that he does. We are not the same, you are as blind about that as you are about all the Hall of Fame players that are currently on this roster. I have copied his 1 tackle texas nickname as it fits Garrett to a tee. 

    Tops, ClevFan4Life is by the definition of his own screen name a simpleton who has no ability to think for himself. Not anywhere in his posts will you find him sharing a thought that was not shoved up his asss by some TV analyst. He has not had an original thought since he cried the day he squirted out of his Mother's asss.

    He believes that anyone who agrees with me (99%) of this board, is me.

    Year after year he comes in here only to see that everything I predicted in the direct contrast of all the experts, pans out. It is beyond his pea brain to accept my superiority, so like Zomblow creating fantasies about fighting me, this dikchead makes up a fantasy world in which 30% of the board is actually me. Never mind that I have never had an alternate screen name................. other than an obvious parody for a moment's joke.

    He has refused to make a bet with me for $1,000 per accusation that every account he claims is me, is not. The IP address of these accounts are all different. Also, there is not one poster here who can even come close to cloaking themselves in my writing style. Remember, I am a published book author and magazine columnist with voluminous prints. My style is not something that a person of average intelligence can even approach. Clev has to have his caretaker read my posts and explain them to him. So don't worry about his accusations. Like Zomblow, he lives in a make-believe world.

    I was a troll when I called for Hue to be fired after the first quarter of his first, 2016 pre-season game. Nobody is saying schidt now, are they?

  • Gate sales are part of the NFL revshare program. So no, Jimmy hasn’t really lost anything at all.

    The Browns franchise has increased in value since he bought it so the idea that you guys think you can have any effect whatsoever on his profits is hilarious.

    I will say it again - Jimmy doesn’t care that the old fogey fans stop going to the game.  We could sell zero tickets and he’d still make money. We could operate at 30% capacity for years and he’d still make money. 

    Hate to break it to you, but this idea that boycotting the team will cause some wide-eyed cathartic realization is dumb.

  • Gate sales are part of the NFL revshare program. So no, Jimmy hasn’t really lost anything at all.

    The Browns franchise has increased in value since he bought it so the idea that you guys think you can have any effect whatsoever on his profits is hilarious.

    I will say it again - Jimmy doesn’t care that the old fogey fans stop going to the game.  We could sell zero tickets and he’d still make money. We could operate at 30% capacity for years and he’d still make money. 

    Hate to break it to you, but this idea that boycotting the team will cause some wide-eyed cathartic realization is dumb.

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    Gate sales are part of the NFL revshare program. So no, Jimmy hasn’t really lost anything at all.

    The Browns franchise has increased in value since he bought it so the idea that you guys think you can have any effect whatsoever on his profits is hilarious.

    I will say it again - Jimmy doesn’t care that the old fogey fans stop going to the game.  We could sell zero tickets and he’d still make money. We could operate at 30% capacity for years and he’d still make money. 

    Hate to break it to you, but this idea that boycotting the team will cause some wide-eyed cathartic realization is dumb.

    correct But the other owners do take notice of the Browns lack of revenue 

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    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    Gate sales are part of the NFL revshare program. So no, Jimmy hasn’t really lost anything at all.

    The Browns franchise has increased in value since he bought it so the idea that you guys think you can have any effect whatsoever on his profits is hilarious.

    I will say it again - Jimmy doesn’t care that the old fogey fans stop going to the game.  We could sell zero tickets and he’d still make money. We could operate at 30% capacity for years and he’d still make money. 

    Hate to break it to you, but this idea that boycotting the team will cause some wide-eyed cathartic realization is dumb.

    correct But the other owners do take notice of the Browns lack of revenue 

    @syd said:

    correct But the other owners do take notice of the Browns lack of revenue 

    If it ever gets to a point of being bad, yes. We’re still in the middle of the league in total home attendance and ahead of Cincy in % of capacity, despite our record.

    It would take multiple consecutive last place attendance finishes to draw enough ire to move the franchise a la San Diego. We’re not there yet...and if we aren’t there after 1 win in two years, we never will be.

  • @syd said:

    correct But the other owners do take notice of the Browns lack of revenue 

    If it ever gets to a point of being bad, yes. We’re still in the middle of the league in total home attendance and ahead of Cincy in % of capacity, despite our record.

    It would take multiple consecutive last place attendance finishes to draw enough ire to move the franchise a la San Diego. We’re not there yet...and if we aren’t there after 1 win in two years, we never will be.

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    We’re not there yet...and if we aren’t there after 1 win in two years, we never will be.

    That's the same sort of thing some of us old fogey fans said in '95 when rumors first surfaced the Browns would move......