Players are sick of Haslam, Hue and Dorsey
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Some of you will never be happy. No matter who is hired you will find fault. If they add someone to the org who is a football guy, you bitch. They go outside the box, you bitch. They fire a guy after a year you bitch, they keep a coach around, you bitch. I think the every coach deserves a fair shake, if Hue doesn't make marketed progress next season he needs to go. But pray tell how many do you think he should have won? He was handed a bag of rocks for his QB position. The team was gutted of veterans. You could blow it all up and redo the offense and defense again etc. As to Williams, whether you like him or not, he improved the defense from yr to yr. Maybe he played his DBs deeps because outside of Calhoun they all pretty much suck. Lets let Dorsey at least do a draft etc before we determine he sucks.
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I am telling you, the 2018 Browns will be just as bad as the 2017 version. 2 - 14 caliber team. NOBODY wants to play for this schidt franchise.
Dorsey is a coffee fetcher. He will do whatever Haslam tells him to do. This is NOT a GM, this is a penis kisser.
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/browns-players-tired-no-talent-205539987.html
Old news Tom. I have long suspected not every player on the Browns roster "loves" playing for Hue. BTW you may well be right in that Williams isn't what he was cracked up to be. playing Peppers a mile off the ball, and his corners 5+ yards off the LOS when the other team is third and two. Go figure.
I hope this is just the early beginning of pre-draft smokescreen, but if the report is even 1\2 true Dorsey is already "locked in" on Josh Allen- he should be fired immediately. We can only hope when Hue coaches the Senior Bowl, he'll "feel the earth move" when he coaches Baker Mayfield.
Old news Tom. I have long suspected not every player on the Browns roster "loves" playing for Hue. BTW you may well be right in that Williams isn't what he was cracked up to be. playing Peppers a mile off the ball, and his corners 5+ yards off the LOS when the other team is third and two. Go figure.
I hope this is just the early beginning of pre-draft smokescreen, but if the report is even 1\2 true Dorsey is already "locked in" on Josh Allen- he should be fired immediately. We can only hope when Hue coaches the Senior Bowl, he'll "feel the earth move" when he coaches Baker Mayfield.
What's wrong with Allen? Everyone is worried because he played for Wyoming, but he had same HC and OC as Wentz. Craig Boh the HC, coached on 3 National Championship teams with Nebraska. Allen is getting top notch coaching in college. Wyoming is actually a D1 school. Wentz played for a D1-a school and it's the same system.
Mayfield is small for the NFC north. He's what 6'1" They usually exaggerate the height too. A small QB in the AFC North, the cold, and wind. I just don't see anything special there. He gets excited when his team wins? I don't see all the leadership qualities everyone talks about. I see immaturity and some Manziel in him for sure. He'll fall come draft day. Unless Rosen and Darnold don't come out. By the time the process is over Allen will be the clear cut #1 QB.
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@boo-fagley said:
Exactly my thoughts.
1) You want a guy who kicks a$$ and takes names later as your head coach.
2) Same with a rookie QB. Rosen is a vagina boy crying that he wont play for the Browns if they draft his sorry a$$. You want a QB who believes " Im good enough to turn this team into a winner" and who is not afraid of adversity. GTFO of my way.
1) Hue is Mr. Nice Guy to the players- that's why they all love him. It's IMHO why he will fall flat on his face again next year, even with some improved talent from the draft. I mean, we couldn't possibly screw up all five picks we have in the first two rounds. Or could we?
2) Sounds like Baker Mayfield to me...
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Old news Tom. I have long suspected not every player on the Browns roster "loves" playing for Hue. BTW you may well be right in that Williams isn't what he was cracked up to be. playing Peppers a mile off the ball, and his corners 5+ yards off the LOS when the other team is third and two. Go figure.
I hope this is just the early beginning of pre-draft smokescreen, but if the report is even 1\2 true Dorsey is already "locked in" on Josh Allen- he should be fired immediately. We can only hope when Hue coaches the Senior Bowl, he'll "feel the earth move" when he coaches Baker Mayfield.
What's wrong with Allen? Everyone is worried because he played for Wyoming, but he had same HC and OC as Wentz. Craig Boh the HC, coached on 3 National Championship teams with Nebraska. Allen is getting top notch coaching in college. Wyoming is actually a D1 school. Wentz played for a D1-a school and it's the same system.
Mayfield is small for the NFC north. He's what 6'1" They usually exaggerate the height too. A small QB in the AFC North, the cold, and wind. I just don't see anything special there. He gets excited when his team wins? I don't see all the leadership qualities everyone talks about. I see immaturity and some Manziel in him for sure. He'll fall come draft day. Unless Rosen and Darnold don't come out. By the time the process is over Allen will be the clear cut #1 QB.
What's wrong with Allen? Everyone is worried because he played for Wyoming, but he had same HC and OC as Wentz. Craig Boh the HC, coached on 3 National Championship teams with Nebraska. Allen is getting top notch coaching in college. Wyoming is actually a D1 school. Wentz played for a D1-a school and it's the same system.
Mayfield is small for the NFC north. He's what 6'1" They usually exaggerate the height too. A small QB in the AFC North, the cold, and wind. I just don't see anything special there. He gets excited when his team wins? I don't see all the leadership qualities everyone talks about. I see immaturity and some Manziel in him for sure. He'll fall come draft day. Unless Rosen and Darnold don't come out. By the time the process is over Allen will be the clear cut #1 QB.
What's wrong with Allen? He has accuracy issues. Same knock as Deshone Kizer. Only way Allen will make it into the top 10 in the draft is if Rosen and Darnold both stay in school.....
BTW, Brian Sipe was 6'1" too.
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I don’t think Mayfield will be 6’1”. Schools always doctor the numbers.
Big 12 QBs play against terrible defenses and in wide open pass happy offenses. Not a one has amounted to squat in the NFL.
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I am telling you, the 2018 Browns will be just as bad as the 2017 version. 2 - 14 caliber team. NOBODY wants to play for this schidt franchise.
Dorsey is a coffee fetcher. He will do whatever Haslam tells him to do. This is NOT a GM, this is a penis kisser.
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/browns-players-tired-no-talent-205539987.html
I am telling you, the 2018 Browns will be just as bad as the 2017 version. 2 - 14 caliber team. NOBODY wants to play for this schidt franchise.
Dorsey is a coffee fetcher. He will do whatever Haslam tells him to do. This is NOT a GM, this is a penis kisser.
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/browns-players-tired-no-talent-205539987.html
No, I was assured by Nero that firing Sashi and keeping Hue would have no effect on the team’s morale.
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I am telling you, the 2018 Browns will be just as bad as the 2017 version. 2 - 14 caliber team. NOBODY wants to play for this schidt franchise.
Dorsey is a coffee fetcher. He will do whatever Haslam tells him to do. This is NOT a GM, this is a penis kisser.
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/browns-players-tired-no-talent-205539987.html
No, I was assured by Nero that firing Sashi and keeping Hue would have no effect on the team’s morale.
No, I was assured by Nero that firing Sashi and keeping Hue would have no effect on the team’s morale.
Nero shoves raisins up his asss. Now he is a football expert?
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Blaming the players is weak sauce. The roster is young and shallow, but not 1-31 bad. There isn’t a single team in the league that’s 1-31 bad without serious deficiencies from the top down. Hue is clearly in over his head and is terrible with play calling and clock management. He panicks like a bitch over everything and chucks up prayer challenges that everyone knows he will lose after watching the replay once. That is when he can dig the challenge flag out of his vagina in time...
The Retards who don’t want to assign any blame to a catty, crybaby, ego-fueled moron like hue deserve the trash football he will deliver.
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I don’t think Mayfield will be 6’1”. Schools always doctor the numbers.
Big 12 QBs play against terrible defenses and in wide open pass happy offenses. Not a one has amounted to squat in the NFL.
I don’t think Mayfield will be 6’1”. Schools always doctor the numbers.
Big 12 QBs play against terrible defenses and in wide open pass happy offenses. Not a one has amounted to squat in the NFL.
The combine will tell. If he shrinks an inch that's not a horribly big deal. Mayfield hung 31 on Ohio State, 40+ on TCU (twice), and 40+ on Georgia. Those were not cupcake defenses. Sorry, just because it hasn't happened yet doesn't mean it can never happen. As Investment Companies like to say- past performance is no guarantee of future results.
I'm not "all in" on Baker- yet. But there's a couple other potentially draftable QBs I'm not thrilled about. It's way early in the process.
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I am telling you, the 2018 Browns will be just as bad as the 2017 version. 2 - 14 caliber team. NOBODY wants to play for this schidt franchise.
Dorsey is a coffee fetcher. He will do whatever Haslam tells him to do. This is NOT a GM, this is a penis kisser.
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/browns-players-tired-no-talent-205539987.html
No, I was assured by Nero that firing Sashi and keeping Hue would have no effect on the team’s morale.
No, I was assured by Nero that firing Sashi and keeping Hue would have no effect on the team’s morale.
What? Show me the post, but I think you are distorting whatever I said. I didn't mention that constantly calling out players and throwing them under the bus wouldn't affect them, I even said in some posts that I didn't like Hue's attitude (for example towards Crowell).
Only thing I said when Dorsey decided to say that previous regime didn't bring talent at all is that he shouldn't have done that, but I didn't worry too much about players getting hurt because they should use those comments as motivation to prove him wrong.
You simply don't go 0-16 without everyone of the groups (players, coaches and front office) contributing to the sh!t show.
#1 Nero shoves raisins up his asss. #2 Now he is a football expert?
Answer to #2: Yes, of course.
Answer to #1: Wanna some?
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Hue has his system and you play according to it.
A good coach sets his system up using his players attributes to the best advantage.
Hue is my way or the highway.
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So, all of the players in the locker room are "bugged" by their coaches and upper management basically declaring that "they aren't good enough"?
Damn, I would've thought the scoreboard at the end of the last 31 games might have led them to that conclusion....... I guess they're also not very bright either.
So, all of the players in the locker room are "bugged" by their coaches and upper management basically declaring that "they aren't good enough"?
Damn, I would've thought the scoreboard at the end of the last 31 games might have led them to that conclusion....... I guess they're also not very bright either.
but they can jump high and run fast!! and sport's science espn shows us how mingo is the new prototypical DE. do players just come here to fail?
btw....????? how can anyone gate shakes the clown? he's been on the job a week. this team was losing a long time before that.
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No, I was assured by Nero that firing Sashi and keeping Hue would have no effect on the team’s morale.
Nero shoves raisins up his asss. Now he is a football expert?
Nero shoves raisins up his asss. Now he is a football expert?
Now you just proved how ignorant you are. In Spain they have so many damn olive trees there are enough to shove dozens up everyone's butt without affecting the olive oil business one iota.
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@boo-fagley said:
Mayfield lit up a lot of chump teams with sieves for defenses.
UTEP, Tulane, Kansas Jaybirds, Tejas Tech, Baylor. He has Micky Tribisky written all over him. Just watch, around draft time the pundits will blow him up to be Dan Marino.
Gruden would say that he has all the tools to be a great NFL QB...which he tells every single QB he meets.
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@boo-fagley said:
Its gotten ridiculous hasnt it?
Watching the Mingo video shaking my head.
That's his job. When he's coaching it's a different ball game with him.
EDIT: Besides I'd rather watch his pressers after games than Huey Fig Newton Fester.
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@boo-fagley said:
Its gotten ridiculous hasnt it?
Watching the Mingo video shaking my head.
That's his job. When he's coaching it's a different ball game with him.
EDIT: Besides I'd rather watch his pressers after games than Huey Fig Newton Fester.
That's his job. When he's coaching it's a different ball game with him.
EDIT: Besides I'd rather watch his pressers after games than Huey Fig Newton Fester.
I was jabbing at the people who give credence to Gruden's words when it is indeed his job to hype up every QB he interviews.
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That's his job. When he's coaching it's a different ball game with him.
EDIT: Besides I'd rather watch his pressers after games than Huey Fig Newton Fester.
I was jabbing at the people who give credence to Gruden's words when it is indeed his job to hype up every QB he interviews.
I was jabbing at the people who give credence to Gruden's words when it is indeed his job to hype up every QB he interviews.
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@boo-fagley said:
Ya, but doesnt he lose credibility?
These draft previews build up college players as if they are Hall of Famers in the waiting. They get everyone all fired up and then the rug gets pulled out from under you after a season or two when the guy is $hitbum.
You mean kind of like you and cal are building up shitty QB's.
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@boo-fagley said:
Drew Lock is just the type of QB that everybody will kick themselves for not taking him.
Every draft it seems a QB comes out of no where.
And every draft multiple QBs go back to nowhere and you've picked two.
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How is Hue wrong? The players SaShit gave him to work with are 95% garbage.
How is Hue wrong? The players SaShit gave him to work with are 95% garbage.
He is wrong because I would say that 50% of the ineptitude on this team lays clearly on his own personal shoulders. I don't think the talent is overall that bad.....key spot, QB, being an exception.
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