Alonzo Highsmith - VP of Football Operations
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I would because "SuperScout"...
You don't call in a special consultant unless you are prepared to heed his advice. I see nothing in "Football-Guy" Dorsey (FGD) to suggest he would do so.
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I would because "SuperScout"...
You don't call in a special consultant unless you are prepared to heed his advice. I see nothing in "Football-Guy" Dorsey (FGD) to suggest he would do so.
I would because "SuperScout"...
You don't call in a special consultant unless you are prepared to heed his advice. I see nothing in "Football-Guy" Dorsey (FGD) to suggest he would do so.
OK, you have likely been paying more attention to this than I have: IF Dorsey agree to bring in a special consultant....why would he not heed his advice? Or are you saying he would never, ever agree to bring in a consultant....because he thinks he knows it all himself?
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I think Dorsey is confident in his own analysis of the position and has nothing to gain by involving a beloved former Brown, but a lot to lose.
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I think Dorsey is confident in his own analysis of the position and has nothing to gain by involving a beloved former Brown, but a lot to lose.
I think Dorsey is confident in his own analysis of the position and has nothing to gain by involving a beloved former Brown, but a lot to lose.
In whose opinion? Confidence is great, well, and good.....but could he indeed have something to gain? Such as a knowledgeable opinion on a matter....even if it is to confirm his own beliefs? Do you think he is going to listen to no one? Or, let me put it this way: do you trust the persons he is going to listen to? Perhaps, it seems, that Highsmith is one of those persons he will listen to. Otherwise, why bring him in? And, on the subject of QBs....who might Highsmith listen to? His old teammate is one possible candidate.
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It does not matter as long as Steelers loving criminal and moron Jimmy H and his ugly dumb wife are around. The Haslams are the cancer eating away at the Browns. Their idiotic decision to cling to the worst coach in NFL history says enough.
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So many posts and tweets about Dorsey being stuck with Hue against his will. Posts about friction on what OC and who picks them. Honestly 99% of it is just cowpoop twitter fodder. The FACT is that when Dorsey accepted the job he knew at that time Hue was locked in as the coach. If he had issue with it he would have simply declined the job offer. He had at a minimum the Giants in the wings ready to ink a deal. I think as opposed to the narrative being woven in the twitterverse we will find that Dorsey and Hue work well together and next year will be a bright spot. I'm fine with being reminded of this next season.
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I think Dorsey is confident in his own analysis of the position and has nothing to gain by involving a beloved former Brown, but a lot to lose.
In whose opinion? Confidence is great, well, and good.....but could he indeed have something to gain? Such as a knowledgeable opinion on a matter....even if it is to confirm his own beliefs? Do you think he is going to listen to no one? Or, let me put it this way: do you trust the persons he is going to listen to? Perhaps, it seems, that Highsmith is one of those persons he will listen to. Otherwise, why bring him in? And, on the subject of QBs....who might Highsmith listen to? His old teammate is one possible candidate.
In whose opinion? Confidence is great, well, and good.....but could he indeed have something to gain? Such as a knowledgeable opinion on a matter....even if it is to confirm his own beliefs? Do you think he is going to listen to no one? Or, let me put it this way: do you trust the persons he is going to listen to? Perhaps, it seems, that Highsmith is one of those persons he will listen to. Otherwise, why bring him in? And, on the subject of QBs....who might Highsmith listen to? His old teammate is one possible candidate.
Since I replied I think you can assume it's my opinion.
I'm sure Dorsey has his confidants... I'd bet Highsmith is one of them. A confidant is someone you know and trust to maintain a confidence. Kosar simply doesn't qualify.
What is your evidence that Bernie would be of any value?
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
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@boo-fagley said:
Let Huey pick his OC.
Then, there are no excuses if things dont go right. If Dorsey gets enough of his people in Cleveland Huey will be outnumbered anyway.
Not if Jimmy Stupidphukkinghillbilly is on hue's side. That's way he's a huebatross. And Dorsey will be just collecting a check like all the others before him.
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Why hasn't Bernie ever gotten a NFL job?
Why hasn't Bernie ever gotten a NFL job?
Slurred speech and boozing?
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In whose opinion? Confidence is great, well, and good.....but could he indeed have something to gain? Such as a knowledgeable opinion on a matter....even if it is to confirm his own beliefs? Do you think he is going to listen to no one? Or, let me put it this way: do you trust the persons he is going to listen to? Perhaps, it seems, that Highsmith is one of those persons he will listen to. Otherwise, why bring him in? And, on the subject of QBs....who might Highsmith listen to? His old teammate is one possible candidate.
Since I replied I think you can assume it's my opinion.
I'm sure Dorsey has his confidants... I'd bet Highsmith is one of them. A confidant is someone you know and trust to maintain a confidence. Kosar simply doesn't qualify.
What is your evidence that Bernie would be of any value?
Since I replied I think you can assume it's my opinion.
I'm sure Dorsey has his confidants... I'd bet Highsmith is one of them. A confidant is someone you know and trust to maintain a confidence. Kosar simply doesn't qualify.
And you have not one effing clue that he doesn't. You just make assumptions there, which make an butt out of you but not me.
What is your evidence that Bernie would be of any value?
Bernie has been very good at assessing QB talent in his broadcasting stints. Few are more insightful about how to play the position.
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Why hasn't Bernie ever gotten a NFL job?
Why hasn't Bernie ever gotten a NFL job?
I don't think he has ever wanted certain kinds of position. That is, like an official type position: coach/scout/etc. If I recall he DID have a position with the Browns at some point....beyond the broadcasting. In fact here is a blurb:
Kosar also purchased a minority share in the Arena Football League's Las Vegas Gladiators in 2007 and announced that the team would move to Cleveland and play under the name Cleveland Gladiators.[10][11] On October 16, 2007, Kosar was named team president and CEO of the franchise.[12] The Gladiators finished the 2008 regular season 9–7, earning them a playoff berth.
On October 17, 2009, Kosar was hired as a consultant for the Cleveland Browns.[13]
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Why hasn't Bernie ever gotten a NFL job?
Slurred speech and boozing?
Slurred speech and boozing?
Kosar continues to deal with the lingering effects of several concussions he sustained during his playing career and is currently in a treatment program to alleviate his symptoms.[19] The experimental treatment has been very helpful for Kosar, to the point where he has openly promoted the treatment in the hopes of helping other players who may have developed the symptoms of chronic traumatic encephalopathy.[20] Kosar's symptoms have included insomnia, slurred speech and a ringing in his head, some present for more than a decade.[21]
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Slurred speech and boozing?
Kosar continues to deal with the lingering effects of several concussions he sustained during his playing career and is currently in a treatment program to alleviate his symptoms.[19] The experimental treatment has been very helpful for Kosar, to the point where he has openly promoted the treatment in the hopes of helping other players who may have developed the symptoms of chronic traumatic encephalopathy.[20] Kosar's symptoms have included insomnia, slurred speech and a ringing in his head, some present for more than a decade.[21]
Kosar continues to deal with the lingering effects of several concussions he sustained during his playing career and is currently in a treatment program to alleviate his symptoms.[19] The experimental treatment has been very helpful for Kosar, to the point where he has openly promoted the treatment in the hopes of helping other players who may have developed the symptoms of chronic traumatic encephalopathy.[20] Kosar's symptoms have included insomnia, slurred speech and a ringing in his head, some present for more than a decade.[21]
I am aware that concussions played a part in the slurred speech. It doesn't take away from the fact that it could be an impediment in social situations.
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Kosar continues to deal with the lingering effects of several concussions he sustained during his playing career and is currently in a treatment program to alleviate his symptoms.[19] The experimental treatment has been very helpful for Kosar, to the point where he has openly promoted the treatment in the hopes of helping other players who may have developed the symptoms of chronic traumatic encephalopathy.[20] Kosar's symptoms have included insomnia, slurred speech and a ringing in his head, some present for more than a decade.[21]
I am aware that concussions played a part in the slurred speech. It doesn't take away from the fact that it could be an impediment in social situations.
I am aware that concussions played a part in the slurred speech. It doesn't take away from the fact that it could be an impediment in social situations.
kind of like Mangini's lisp
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Since I replied I think you can assume it's my opinion.
I'm sure Dorsey has his confidants... I'd bet Highsmith is one of them. A confidant is someone you know and trust to maintain a confidence. Kosar simply doesn't qualify.
And you have not one effing clue that he doesn't. You just make assumptions there, which make an butt out of you but not me.
What is your evidence that Bernie would be of any value?
Bernie has been very good at assessing QB talent in his broadcasting stints. Few are more insightful about how to play the position.
And you have not one effing clue that he doesn't. You just make assumptions there, which make an butt out of you but not me.
Bernie has been very good at assessing QB talent in his broadcasting stints. Few are more insightful about how to play the position.
If you share confidences with people you do not know, then I feel safe in saying you are the clueless one.
Bernie's assessment commentary also got him kicked off broadcasts. Critiquing a pro's play is not the same as projecting a collegian's prospects at the next level.
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And you have not one effing clue that he doesn't. You just make assumptions there, which make an butt out of you but not me.
Bernie has been very good at assessing QB talent in his broadcasting stints. Few are more insightful about how to play the position.
If you share confidences with people you do not know, then I feel safe in saying you are the clueless one.
Bernie's assessment commentary also got him kicked off broadcasts. Critiquing a pro's play is not the same as projecting a collegian's prospects at the next level.
If you share confidences with people you do not know, then I feel safe in saying you are the clueless one.
I am not sharing any confidences with anyone. What confidences do you think I have shared?
Bernie's assessment commentary also got him kicked off broadcasts. Critiquing a pro's play is not the same as projecting a collegian's prospects at the next level.
But, Bernie's assessment was dead butt right on. Its just that he, I guess, should not have been so brutally honest about it. They don't want that kind of honesty in broadcasting. (they won't even admit what a crappy butt job either Hue or Kizer did this year). But that does not mean that an Alonzo Highsmith or John Dorsey would not want his brutally honest opinion about a QB prospect. I am absolutely sure they would...if they solicited his opinion. Which they could.
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Kosar continues to deal with the lingering effects of several concussions he sustained during his playing career and is currently in a treatment program to alleviate his symptoms.[19] The experimental treatment has been very helpful for Kosar, to the point where he has openly promoted the treatment in the hopes of helping other players who may have developed the symptoms of chronic traumatic encephalopathy.[20] Kosar's symptoms have included insomnia, slurred speech and a ringing in his head, some present for more than a decade.[21]
I am aware that concussions played a part in the slurred speech. It doesn't take away from the fact that it could be an impediment in social situations.
I am aware that concussions played a part in the slurred speech. It doesn't take away from the fact that it could be an impediment in social situations.
Which social situations do you think he would be in where that would be an impediment? He makes regular appearances on TV now on one of the Browns pre/post game shows. Do you think that it would be an impediment to him holding a consultancy position with the Browns to advise them on QB prospects? I don't.
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I am aware that concussions played a part in the slurred speech. It doesn't take away from the fact that it could be an impediment in social situations.
Which social situations do you think he would be in where that would be an impediment? He makes regular appearances on TV now on one of the Browns pre/post game shows. Do you think that it would be an impediment to him holding a consultancy position with the Browns to advise them on QB prospects? I don't.
Which social situations do you think he would be in where that would be an impediment? He makes regular appearances on TV now on one of the Browns pre/post game shows. Do you think that it would be an impediment to him holding a consultancy position with the Browns to advise them on QB prospects? I don't.
Well that is where the alcoholism steps in...
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Which social situations do you think he would be in where that would be an impediment? He makes regular appearances on TV now on one of the Browns pre/post game shows. Do you think that it would be an impediment to him holding a consultancy position with the Browns to advise them on QB prospects? I don't.
Well that is where the alcoholism steps in...
Well that is where the alcoholism steps in...
Yours?
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