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Alonzo Highsmith - VP of Football Operations

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  • @boo-fagley said:

    Let Huey pick his OC.

    Then, there are no excuses if things dont go right. If Dorsey gets enough of his people in Cleveland Huey will be outnumbered anyway.

    Not if Jimmy Stupidphukkinghillbilly is on hue's side. That's way he's a huebatross. And Dorsey will be just collecting a check like all the others before him.

  • Why hasn't Bernie ever gotten a NFL job?

    @dutch-oven said:

    Why hasn't Bernie ever gotten a NFL job?

    Slurred speech and boozing?

  • @the-gipper said:

    In whose opinion? Confidence is great, well, and good.....but could he indeed have something to gain?  Such as a knowledgeable opinion on a matter....even if it is to confirm his own beliefs?  Do you think he is going to listen to no one?  Or, let me put it this way:  do you trust the persons he is going to listen to?    Perhaps, it seems, that Highsmith is one of those persons he will listen to. Otherwise, why bring him in?  And, on the subject of QBs....who might Highsmith listen to?   His old teammate is one possible candidate.

    Since I replied I think you can assume it's my opinion.

    I'm sure Dorsey has his confidants... I'd bet Highsmith is one of them. A confidant is someone you know and trust to maintain a confidence. Kosar simply doesn't qualify.

    What is your evidence that Bernie would be of any value?

    @tour2ma said:

    Since I replied I think you can assume it's my opinion.

    I'm sure Dorsey has his confidants... I'd bet Highsmith is one of them. A confidant is someone you know and trust to maintain a confidence. Kosar simply doesn't qualify.

    And you have not one effing clue that he doesn't.  You just make assumptions there, which make an butt out of you but not me.

    What is your evidence that Bernie would be of any value?

    Bernie has been very good at assessing QB talent in his broadcasting stints.  Few are more insightful about how to play the position.

  • Why hasn't Bernie ever gotten a NFL job?

    @dutch-oven said:

    Why hasn't Bernie ever gotten a NFL job?

    I don't think he has ever wanted certain kinds of position.  That is, like an official type position:  coach/scout/etc.    If I recall he DID have a position with the Browns at some point....beyond the broadcasting.  In fact here is a blurb:

    Kosar also purchased a minority share in the Arena Football League's Las Vegas Gladiators in 2007 and announced that the team would move to Cleveland and play under the name Cleveland Gladiators.[10][11] On October 16, 2007, Kosar was named team president and CEO of the franchise.[12] The Gladiators finished the 2008 regular season 9–7, earning them a playoff berth.

    On October 17, 2009, Kosar was hired as a consultant for the Cleveland Browns.[13]

  • @dutch-oven said:

    Why hasn't Bernie ever gotten a NFL job?

    Slurred speech and boozing?

    @logicisforsquares said:

    Slurred speech and boozing?

    Kosar continues to deal with the lingering effects of several concussions he sustained during his playing career and is currently in a treatment program to alleviate his symptoms.[19] The experimental treatment has been very helpful for Kosar, to the point where he has openly promoted the treatment in the hopes of helping other players who may have developed the symptoms of chronic traumatic encephalopathy.[20] Kosar's symptoms have included insomnia, slurred speech and a ringing in his head, some present for more than a decade.[21]

  • @logicisforsquares said:

    Slurred speech and boozing?

    Kosar continues to deal with the lingering effects of several concussions he sustained during his playing career and is currently in a treatment program to alleviate his symptoms.[19] The experimental treatment has been very helpful for Kosar, to the point where he has openly promoted the treatment in the hopes of helping other players who may have developed the symptoms of chronic traumatic encephalopathy.[20] Kosar's symptoms have included insomnia, slurred speech and a ringing in his head, some present for more than a decade.[21]

    @the-gipper said:

    Kosar continues to deal with the lingering effects of several concussions he sustained during his playing career and is currently in a treatment program to alleviate his symptoms.[19] The experimental treatment has been very helpful for Kosar, to the point where he has openly promoted the treatment in the hopes of helping other players who may have developed the symptoms of chronic traumatic encephalopathy.[20] Kosar's symptoms have included insomnia, slurred speech and a ringing in his head, some present for more than a decade.[21]

    I am aware that concussions played a part in the slurred speech. It doesn't take away from the fact that it could be an impediment in social situations. 

  • @the-gipper said:

    Kosar continues to deal with the lingering effects of several concussions he sustained during his playing career and is currently in a treatment program to alleviate his symptoms.[19] The experimental treatment has been very helpful for Kosar, to the point where he has openly promoted the treatment in the hopes of helping other players who may have developed the symptoms of chronic traumatic encephalopathy.[20] Kosar's symptoms have included insomnia, slurred speech and a ringing in his head, some present for more than a decade.[21]

    I am aware that concussions played a part in the slurred speech. It doesn't take away from the fact that it could be an impediment in social situations. 

    @logicisforsquares said:

    I am aware that concussions played a part in the slurred speech. It doesn't take away from the fact that it could be an impediment in social situations. 

    kind of like Mangini's lisp

  • @tour2ma said:

    Since I replied I think you can assume it's my opinion.

    I'm sure Dorsey has his confidants... I'd bet Highsmith is one of them. A confidant is someone you know and trust to maintain a confidence. Kosar simply doesn't qualify.

    And you have not one effing clue that he doesn't.  You just make assumptions there, which make an butt out of you but not me.

    What is your evidence that Bernie would be of any value?

    Bernie has been very good at assessing QB talent in his broadcasting stints.  Few are more insightful about how to play the position.

    @the-gipper said:

    And you have not one effing clue that he doesn't.  You just make assumptions there, which make an butt out of you but not me.

    Bernie has been very good at assessing QB talent in his broadcasting stints.  Few are more insightful about how to play the position.

    If you share confidences with people you do not know, then I feel safe in saying you are the clueless one.

    Bernie's assessment commentary also got him kicked off broadcasts. Critiquing a pro's play is not the same as projecting a collegian's prospects at the next level.

  • @the-gipper said:

    And you have not one effing clue that he doesn't.  You just make assumptions there, which make an butt out of you but not me.

    Bernie has been very good at assessing QB talent in his broadcasting stints.  Few are more insightful about how to play the position.

    If you share confidences with people you do not know, then I feel safe in saying you are the clueless one.

    Bernie's assessment commentary also got him kicked off broadcasts. Critiquing a pro's play is not the same as projecting a collegian's prospects at the next level.

    @tour2ma said:

    If you share confidences with people you do not know, then I feel safe in saying you are the clueless one.

    I am not sharing any confidences with anyone. What confidences do you think I have shared?

    Bernie's assessment commentary also got him kicked off broadcasts. Critiquing a pro's play is not the same as projecting a collegian's prospects at the next level.

    But, Bernie's assessment was dead butt right on.  Its just that he, I guess, should not have been so brutally honest about it. They don't want that kind of honesty in broadcasting.  (they won't even admit what a crappy butt job either Hue or Kizer did this year).  But that does not mean that an Alonzo Highsmith or John Dorsey would not want his brutally honest opinion about a QB prospect.  I am absolutely sure they would...if they solicited his opinion.   Which they could.

  • @the-gipper said:

    Kosar continues to deal with the lingering effects of several concussions he sustained during his playing career and is currently in a treatment program to alleviate his symptoms.[19] The experimental treatment has been very helpful for Kosar, to the point where he has openly promoted the treatment in the hopes of helping other players who may have developed the symptoms of chronic traumatic encephalopathy.[20] Kosar's symptoms have included insomnia, slurred speech and a ringing in his head, some present for more than a decade.[21]

    I am aware that concussions played a part in the slurred speech. It doesn't take away from the fact that it could be an impediment in social situations. 

    @logicisforsquares said:

    I am aware that concussions played a part in the slurred speech. It doesn't take away from the fact that it could be an impediment in social situations. 

    Which social situations do you think he would be in where that would be an impediment?  He makes regular appearances on TV now on one of the Browns pre/post game shows.   Do you think that it would be an impediment to him holding a consultancy position with the Browns to advise them on QB prospects?  I don't. 

  • @logicisforsquares said:

    I am aware that concussions played a part in the slurred speech. It doesn't take away from the fact that it could be an impediment in social situations. 

    Which social situations do you think he would be in where that would be an impediment?  He makes regular appearances on TV now on one of the Browns pre/post game shows.   Do you think that it would be an impediment to him holding a consultancy position with the Browns to advise them on QB prospects?  I don't. 

    @the-gipper said:

    Which social situations do you think he would be in where that would be an impediment?  He makes regular appearances on TV now on one of the Browns pre/post game shows.   Do you think that it would be an impediment to him holding a consultancy position with the Browns to advise them on QB prospects?  I don't. 

    Well that is where the alcoholism steps in...

  • @the-gipper said:

    Which social situations do you think he would be in where that would be an impediment?  He makes regular appearances on TV now on one of the Browns pre/post game shows.   Do you think that it would be an impediment to him holding a consultancy position with the Browns to advise them on QB prospects?  I don't. 

    Well that is where the alcoholism steps in...

    @logicisforsquares said:

    Well that is where the alcoholism steps in...

    Yours?

  • @logicisforsquares said:

    Well that is where the alcoholism steps in...

    Yours?

    @the-gipper said:

    Yours?

    Nah, the guy who is a former Browns QB and has a life long struggle with being a boozehound.

  • @the-gipper said:

    Yours?

    Nah, the guy who is a former Browns QB and has a life long struggle with being a boozehound.

    @logicisforsquares said:

    Nah, the guy who is a former Browns QB and has a life long struggle with being a boozehound.

    Not a factor...at all, even if true....which it certainly may not be...in his ability to evaluate a potential QB prospect.   Again, even if true...it does not prevent him from appearing on TV or from making cogent, insightful comments on there.

  • Alcoholism and brain trauma wouldn’t make him bad at critically thinking and analyzing information?

  • Alcoholism and brain trauma wouldn’t make him bad at critically thinking and analyzing information?

    @logicisforsquares said:

    Alcoholism and brain trauma wouldn’t make him bad at critically thinking and analyzing information?

    No, not necessarily....in chronic or extreme cases it could.   But have you seen him on TV?  He is perfectly capable of critical thinking and analyzing information. Or have you not paid attention because you are in your own stupor of some cause or other?

    I mean...or maybe is just another Youngstown arsehole.   We have a few of those on this board.  Do you believe they are not capable of critical thinking and being analytical?       (Ghoolie begs you not to answer that question).

  • Gip, it was a passing joke. I was unaware that it would trigger your Aspbergers. I will make sure to put an asterisk so you know next time. 

  • I guess my point was if Bernie is such a brilliant football mind, and he really wants to be in a NFL football front office, there's 31 other NFL teams out there.

  • @the-gipper said:

    And you have not one effing clue that he doesn't.  You just make assumptions there, which make an butt out of you but not me.

    Bernie has been very good at assessing QB talent in his broadcasting stints.  Few are more insightful about how to play the position.

    If you share confidences with people you do not know, then I feel safe in saying you are the clueless one.

    Bernie's assessment commentary also got him kicked off broadcasts. Critiquing a pro's play is not the same as projecting a collegian's prospects at the next level.

    @tour2ma said:

    If you share confidences with people you do not know, then I feel safe in saying you are the clueless one.

    Bernie's assessment commentary also got him kicked off broadcasts. Critiquing a pro's play is not the same as projecting a collegian's prospects at the next level.

    It was not for his assessment. It was the symptoms of his injuries that got him canned. He still does spot on assessments. On the radio for The Cleveland Browns Radio Network.

    What's your point?

  • I guess my point was if Bernie is such a brilliant football mind, and he really wants to be in a NFL football front office, there's 31 other NFL teams out there.

    @dutch-oven said:

    I guess my point was if Bernie is such a brilliant football mind, and he really wants to be in a NFL football front office, there's 31 other NFL teams out there.

    He's answered that question many times. He's a Homer. No more, no less.