Which draftable QB has the best mechanics?
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I want a big, tall, strong QB with a strong arm. But mechanics are important.....and it's AWFULLY hard (if not impossible) to train into a QB at this point in his career.
Tebow had the motion of a starting pitcher.....and they worked HARD to train that out of him but when the game got going he was back on the mound with nobody on base.
If it's Rosen that looks like he was born to be an NFL QB...then that's who I want to roll the dice on.
I'm thinking that our new 'football' people that the building in Berea is being stocked with will be looking for 2 QB's. A veteran to start and an incredibly high draft pick (#1 I would bet) to groom as the future franchise QB. - No rushing the draft pick onto the field. He can learn the nuances of playing under center, reading defenses, etc., even tweaking footwork or motion....but major mechanical flaws in a QB's motion will be there forever IMO....so I want the guy who needs the least tweaking to look like an NFL passer.
Who meets that criteria?
---------- ps...what a friggin' snow storm we had here in New England today. I'm friggin' beat!
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8" of your storm hit here in NC last night O.. State left us with 4 snow plows & 2 trucks throwing Beach Sand for salt trucks..try delivering mail in this crap'olla..Who's are new OC Orion? think 3 been interviewed but not feeling any can help? We need a play caller, That actually calls plays to our QB's game..We got big, tall,strong, with strong arm in Kizer'zilla.. Rosen won't make week 1 in Hue's playbook & Hue needs to butt totally out of it..Darnold can't tuck a ball nor take hits like that buckeye game..The new OC may tell us something? but damn Watson did not turn into to Watson again till his coach let him run some of his college offense..Almost the same with Wentz with what Doug Peterson did also.
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Between Rosen and Darnold, it isn't even close.... Rosen looks like he was made in a lab, and Darnold looks like he taught himself.
Rosen looks like he was made in a lab, and Darnold looks like he taught himself.
That's what I'm talkin ' bout.
8" of your storm hit here in NC last night.. State left us with 4 snow plows & 2 trucks throwing Beach Sand for salt trucks..try delivering mail in this crap'olla..Who's are new OC Orion? think 3 been interviewed but not feeling any can help? We need a play caller, That actually calls plays to our QB's game..We got big, tall,strong, with strong arm in Kizer'zilla.. Rosen won't make week 1 in Hue's playbook & Hue needs to butt totally out of it..Darnold can't tuck a ball nor take hits like that buckeye game..The new OC may tell us something? but damn Watson did not turn into to Watson again till his coach let him run some of his college offense..Almost the same with Wentz with what Doug Peterson did also
While snow throwing my back patio for doggie...in 20 minutes time I bound the auger with the plastic covering the wood pile, cut it out, a ROPE that somehow got back there, cut it out, and a BRICK that was holding down the plastic covering the wood pile got wedged in the auger that I had to pry and bang with a hammer for 10 minutes to get loose. I was a one man comedy routine.
You're right, Kizer is a big strong drink of water with a big arm. And who really knows, he could BE the guy we've been looking for. If you look back in time MANY QB's had horrendous first season. And although we're bringing in an OC, I'm betting he's just a puppet (or coffee fetcher as people like to say). Hue will be calling the plays I guarantee.
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Benkert.
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I want a big, tall, strong QB with a strong arm. But mechanics are important.....and it's AWFULLY hard (if not impossible) to train into a QB at this point in his career.
Tebow had the motion of a starting pitcher.....and they worked HARD to train that out of him but when the game got going he was back on the mound with nobody on base.
If it's Rosen that looks like he was born to be an NFL QB...then that's who I want to roll the dice on.
I'm thinking that our new 'football' people that the building in Berea is being stocked with will be looking for 2 QB's. A veteran to start and an incredibly high draft pick (#1 I would bet) to groom as the future franchise QB. - No rushing the draft pick onto the field. He can learn the nuances of playing under center, reading defenses, etc., even tweaking footwork or motion....but major mechanical flaws in a QB's motion will be there forever IMO....so I want the guy who needs the least tweaking to look like an NFL passer.
Who meets that criteria?
---------- ps...what a friggin' snow storm we had here in New England today. I'm friggin' beat!
I want a big, tall, strong QB with a strong arm. But mechanics are important.....and it's AWFULLY hard (if not impossible) to train into a QB at this point in his career.
Tebow had the motion of a starting pitcher.....and they worked HARD to train that out of him but when the game got going he was back on the mound with nobody on base.
If it's Rosen that looks like he was born to be an NFL QB...then that's who I want to roll the dice on.
I'm thinking that our new 'football' people that the building in Berea is being stocked with will be looking for 2 QB's. A veteran to start and an incredibly high draft pick (#1 I would bet) to groom as the future franchise QB. - No rushing the draft pick onto the field. He can learn the nuances of playing under center, reading defenses, etc., even tweaking footwork or motion....but major mechanical flaws in a QB's motion will be there forever IMO....so I want the guy who needs the least tweaking to look like an NFL passer.
Who meets that criteria?
---------- ps...what a friggin' snow storm we had here in New England today. I'm friggin' beat!
To somewhat placate Cal- I watched a breakdown of Josh Allen's mechanics. I don't get into that much detail, but the QB geeks can comment...
Benkert.
After we take our guy #1 overall, Benkert in the 4th round..... per Walter Football. BTW, he'll play in the Senior Bowl along with Mayfield. That's gonna be must see TV.
1/4/18: A general manager told WalterFootball.com that Benkert was a player who intrigued them and that they were going to be studying him some more. Benkert completed 59 percent of his passes in 2017 for 3,207 yards with 25 touchdowns and nine interceptions. He accepted an invitation to play in the Senior Bowl.
Benkert has enough size and above-average arm strength. While he isn't a great athlete, he has mobility and can extend plays with his feet. Benkert has very impressive deep ball accuracy with the ability to make some phenomenal throws off platform. Benkert will work through his progressions, but he needs to get faster at that and improve his field vision for the NFL. Benkert needs to improve on his feet, but a good NFL coach could fix that. Obviously, working under center and transitioning to a pro system will be a work in progress. The senior is a player to study and consider in the months to come.
Read more at http://walterfootball.com/draft2018QB.php#8XLVsBUTgvzZG8hP.99 -
Benkert's mechanics flat smacked me in the face when I first saw him this year. The criticism that he has to increase his speed through his reads/progressions is laughable as it is true of every QB prospect moving to the next level. At least Kurt has made reads and gone thru progressions at UVA... which is more than most of the top prospects can say.
While I've not side-by-sided them, my impression is that Rosen's mechanics are equal to or better than Kurt's. In part this is due to the shear effortlessness with which he makes every throw and Josh can make every throw. He is the best pure passer I have seen since Andrew Luck.
Third? Surprisingly, even to me, is Mayfield. Some of this impression is a product of all the time he seems to have and the relative "openness" of his receivers, but his action from the pocket is pretty damn good and his TOR mechanics are probably the best in this class.
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Didn't Mike have the best Mechanics?
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Benkert's mechanics flat smacked me in the face when I first saw him this year. The criticism that he has to increase his speed through his reads/progressions is laughable as it is true of every QB prospect moving to the next level. At least Kurt has made reads and gone thru progressions at UVA... which is more than most of the top prospects can say.
While I've not side-by-sided them, my impression is that Rosen's mechanics are equal to or better than Kurt's. In part this is due to the shear effortlessness with which he makes every throw and Josh can make every throw. He is the best pure passer I have seen since Andrew Luck.
Third? Surprisingly, even to me, is Mayfield. Some of this impression is a product of all the time he seems to have and the relative "openness" of his receivers, but his action from the pocket is pretty damn good and his TOR mechanics are probably the best in this class.
Benkert's mechanics flat smacked me in the face when I first saw him this year. The criticism that he has to increase his speed through his reads/progressions is laughable as it is true of every QB prospect moving to the next level. At least Kurt has made reads and gone thru progressions at UVA... which is more than most of the top prospects can say.
While I've not side-by-sided them, my impression is that Rosen's mechanics are equal to or better than Kurt's. In part this is due to the shear effortlessness with which he makes every throw and Josh can make every throw. He is the best pure passer I have seen since Andrew Luck.
Third? Surprisingly, even to me, is Mayfield. Some of this impression is a product of all the time he seems to have and the relative "openness" of his receivers, but his action from the pocket is pretty damn good and his TOR mechanics are probably the best in this class.
I'll convert you to Camp Mayfield yet Tour. I iz seein' Drew Brees.
Right now I have Baker as a lock top 10 pick. Hell, Mahomes went #10. Regarding Benkert, he had a bad Bowl game, which I won't hold against him (ditto Darnold). We'll still have the Senior Bowl, must see TV https://www.seniorbowl.com/accepted-invites.php and the Combine to sort things out.
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Benkert's mechanics flat smacked me in the face when I first saw him this year. The criticism that he has to increase his speed through his reads/progressions is laughable as it is true of every QB prospect moving to the next level. At least Kurt has made reads and gone thru progressions at UVA... which is more than most of the top prospects can say.
While I've not side-by-sided them, my impression is that Rosen's mechanics are equal to or better than Kurt's. In part this is due to the shear effortlessness with which he makes every throw and Josh can make every throw. He is the best pure passer I have seen since Andrew Luck.
Third? Surprisingly, even to me, is Mayfield. Some of this impression is a product of all the time he seems to have and the relative "openness" of his receivers, but his action from the pocket is pretty damn good and his TOR mechanics are probably the best in this class.
I'll convert you to Camp Mayfield yet Tour. I iz seein' Drew Brees.
Right now I have Baker as a lock top 10 pick. Hell, Mahomes went #10. Regarding Benkert, he had a bad Bowl game, which I won't hold against him (ditto Darnold). We'll still have the Senior Bowl, must see TV https://www.seniorbowl.com/accepted-invites.php and the Combine to sort things out.
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Benkert's mechanics flat smacked me in the face when I first saw him this year. The criticism that he has to increase his speed through his reads/progressions is laughable as it is true of every QB prospect moving to the next level. At least Kurt has made reads and gone thru progressions at UVA... which is more than most of the top prospects can say.
While I've not side-by-sided them, my impression is that Rosen's mechanics are equal to or better than Kurt's. In part this is due to the shear effortlessness with which he makes every throw and Josh can make every throw. He is the best pure passer I have seen since Andrew Luck.
Third? Surprisingly, even to me, is Mayfield. Some of this impression is a product of all the time he seems to have and the relative "openness" of his receivers, but his action from the pocket is pretty damn good and his TOR mechanics are probably the best in this class.
I'll convert you to Camp Mayfield yet Tour. I iz seein' Drew Brees.
Right now I have Baker as a lock top 10 pick. Hell, Mahomes went #10. Regarding Benkert, he had a bad Bowl game, which I won't hold against him (ditto Darnold). We'll still have the Senior Bowl, must see TV https://www.seniorbowl.com/accepted-invites.php and the Combine to sort things out.
I'll convert you to Camp Mayfield yet Tour. I iz seein' Drew Brees.
Right now I have Baker as a lock top 10 pick. Hell, Mahomes went #10. Regarding Benkert, he had a bad Bowl game, which I won't hold against him (ditto Darnold). We'll still have the Senior Bowl, must see TV https://www.seniorbowl.com/accepted-invites.php and the Combine to sort things out.
Open for bets regarding Bakers career being no where near Brees. Including Mayfields longevity as a starting QB.
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Benkert's mechanics flat smacked me in the face when I first saw him this year. The criticism that he has to increase his speed through his reads/progressions is laughable as it is true of every QB prospect moving to the next level. At least Kurt has made reads and gone thru progressions at UVA... which is more than most of the top prospects can say.
While I've not side-by-sided them, my impression is that Rosen's mechanics are equal to or better than Kurt's. In part this is due to the shear effortlessness with which he makes every throw and Josh can make every throw. He is the best pure passer I have seen since Andrew Luck.
Third? Surprisingly, even to me, is Mayfield. Some of this impression is a product of all the time he seems to have and the relative "openness" of his receivers, but his action from the pocket is pretty damn good and his TOR mechanics are probably the best in this class.
I'll convert you to Camp Mayfield yet Tour. I iz seein' Drew Brees.
Right now I have Baker as a lock top 10 pick. Hell, Mahomes went #10. Regarding Benkert, he had a bad Bowl game, which I won't hold against him (ditto Darnold). We'll still have the Senior Bowl, must see TV https://www.seniorbowl.com/accepted-invites.php and the Combine to sort things out.
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Darnold has a noticeable hitch in his throwing motion.
He drops the ball down to his waist (could be the reason for all the fumbles) instead of keeping it up near his chest, then winds up and throws passes like he's a baseball pitcher.
He needs to clean this up.
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Darnold has a noticeable hitch in his throwing motion.
He drops the ball down to his waist (could be the reason for all the fumbles) instead of keeping it up near his chest, then winds up and throws passes like he's a baseball pitcher.
He needs to clean this up.
Darnold has a noticeable hitch in his throwing motion.
He drops the ball down to his waist (could be the reason for all the fumbles) instead of keeping it up near his chest, then winds up and throws passes like he's a baseball pitcher.
He needs to clean this up.
Saw that too. I am not getting the Darnold hype at all.
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Why do we have so many QB threads?
You aren’t that new here haha. It is QB/draft season for Browns fans. Happens every year.
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Why do we have so many QB threads?
Because the Silly Season has just begun War. Like we're not drafting one high? Damn, the real mud slinging hasn't even started yet.....
Us Mods will try to keep the assorted "Camps" in one QB love fest thread specific to the love boat.. So we have Rosen, Darnold, Mayfield, Allen (barf- I'm entitled to MHO there) Rudolph, Benkert- SO FAR.
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