Who's #1?
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Optimistic Nihilism

Browns fans have suffered freaking long enough already.
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Yes....but WHAT is the meaning of all this suffering?
I think it was the Buddha who said "to live is to suffer." The goal is to end the karmic cycle to end suffering. So us Browns fans should all kill ourselves.
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Yes....but WHAT is the meaning of all this suffering?
I think it was the Buddha who said "to live is to suffer." The goal is to end the karmic cycle to end suffering. So us Browns fans should all kill ourselves.
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That does not end the karmic cycle...that actually perpetuates it.
You need to to brush up on your Buddhism Gip. When you attain Nirvana, you're out of the Karmic cycle for good... Yeah, we're all coming back as frogs next time.
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That does not end the karmic cycle...that actually perpetuates it.
You need to to brush up on your Buddhism Gip. When you attain Nirvana, you're out of the Karmic cycle for good... Yeah, we're all coming back as frogs next time.
You need to to brush up on your Buddhism Gip. When you attain Nirvana, you're out of the Karmic cycle for good... Yeah, we're all coming back as frogs next time.
You need to read up on your Buddhism. Killing yourself does NOT lead to Nirvana....in fact it leads you further away from it. There may be no more negative karmic flow than to commit suicide.
Now...if you said that we should all go out and purchase white elephants to get closer to Nirvana...that would be more productive.

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I always kind of liked "Que sera, sera." Straight to the point.
(Nero can translate)
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Not exactly Tour. It means "what will be, will be"
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"Cocaine is a helluva drug"
Rick James
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Saquon Barkley is #1 Overall.
We should take Barkley, he's a special type of player. I think he's better than Trent... He has the vision, the speed, the balance, hands and leaping ability that is going to lead to a lot of points for the team that drafts him. I hope it's us.
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Saquon Barkley is #1 Overall.
We should take Barkley, he's a special type of player. I think he's better than Trent... He has the vision, the speed, the balance, hands and leaping ability that is going to lead to a lot of points for the team that drafts him. I hope it's us.
Saquon Barkley is #1 Overall.
We should take Barkley, he's a special type of player. I think he's better than Trent... He has the vision, the speed, the balance, hands and leaping ability that is going to lead to a lot of points for the team that drafts him. I hope it's us.
PO, I'm not saying don't draft Barkley- just not @ #1 overall. Or you think Saquon is magically going to turn Kizer into a HOF QB? (Just drop the Hogan love BTW) We aren't playing qb roulette April 2018, hoping the guy we want falls to us @ #4. It's WAY more likely the other way around.
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Saquon Barkley is #1 Overall.
We should take Barkley, he's a special type of player. I think he's better than Trent... He has the vision, the speed, the balance, hands and leaping ability that is going to lead to a lot of points for the team that drafts him. I hope it's us.
Saquon Barkley is #1 Overall.
We should take Barkley, he's a special type of player. I think he's better than Trent... He has the vision, the speed, the balance, hands and leaping ability that is going to lead to a lot of points for the team that drafts him. I hope it's us.
Barkley is the best player entering the Draft in your mind, because you think he's better than Trent Richardson.
You just can't argue against logic like that.
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Of course it is! Ever really spelled out the word therapist? The rapist. Now you'll never get that outa your head.

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Waaahhhhaaahhhh you can't tell when I'm yanking your chain? Rosen love? Not really from the rest of us. That's only because YOU have put in what? Around 100 posts already repeating everything ad nauseum YOU don't like about him, and there's been counter arguments that you're off base. FWIW, there hasn't been a ton of chatter about Darnold yet- because a certain poster isn't spewing constantly how much he doesn't like him .
lol. I don't dislike Darnold, although the many fumbles are strange. If the Browns draft him or Allen, or even Rudolph, I'll be happy happy happy. I just think it's Allen. Somebody mentioned that Allen has an injury history for how he's played the game.
It's true. So has rosen. But he said THAT "didn't matter".... that's what is annoying about all this stuff. There are no counter arguments about his character/personality. That is a concern many have, I've posted as much. Will it be a problem? Nobody knows, but a lot of folks are concerned about it.
lol. I don't dislike Darnold, although the many fumbles are strange. If the Browns draft him or Allen, or even Rudolph, I'll be happy happy happy. I just think it's Allen. Somebody mentioned that Allen has an injury history for how he's played the game.
It's true. So has rosen. But he said THAT "didn't matter".... that's what is annoying about all this stuff. There are no counter arguments about his character/personality. That is a concern many have, I've posted as much. Will it be a problem? Nobody knows, but a lot of folks are concerned about it.
Well, we DO have a t-shirt that might need to go from XXXL to Tent-size in order to capture every QB's name that didn't survive the challenges of Adversity University on the shore of Lake Erie.
This could be wrong but I have a bad feeling Rosen is going to be the football version of Yao Ming in the fragility sense of "made in China stayed on sideline." Or, with the concussion inventory already rivaling that of Evan Moore - how close is he to the point of no return? Before he had a bruised back and a sore knee sidelining him this season - he had a shoulder injury and multiple concussions that sidelined him prior to that. He's the son of one of the best back surgeons in the world and a frat boy just in case anyone forgot the last brat QB we drafted in round 1 from a lot of money and coddling. This knucklehead thought Manziel would be able to grow out of the party boy thing like Favre, Kelly and many others eventually did. WRONG! Usually I like a QB that has a great intellect reflected by a 3.8 GPA; but I get the sense Rosen doesn't want any part of the mental and physical growing pains that will come with the territory. College football was even too tough for this kid so I don't see a perfect match for life in the AFC North with this kid. Neither does he or he wouldn't already be announcing he prefers to play for the New Jersey Giants. Then again, if the Giants get their most talented WRs back healthy - it offers a bigger shot at success for a young QB than we've been equipping our Rent-A-Wrecks and inexperienced QBs with. Hard to blame him there because the world outside of us (and within) doesn't see a franchise/FO committed to making this a QB friendly environment since 1999. Until that changes, nothing changes here...
Is Rosen talented? Absolutely! As early as 8th or 9th grade - he was getting a ton of press about a great future in the NFL. Elite talent at QB will always be a temptation here. There's going to be fans that want him.
As for Allen, he doesn't have a big enough body of excellence against top caliber opponents for me to get pumped up about with our 1st or 4th pick. This season he only threw 13 TD passes heading into his Bowl Game (even though he also only threw 6 INTs). He was about as sought after coming out of high school as Santa Claus, Indiana's Jay Cutler. All that said, I enjoyed Allen's performance in the Bowl Game. I saw a strong arm with accuracy; very good mobility and nice accuracy throwing on the run. He can also throw touch passes none of our bionic armed QBs like DA, Weeden and Kizer exemplified very often. He has ideal/prototypical height. The question I have is how does a guy that wasn't good enough for BIG time college football go from ho-humsies to being the answer to all of Cleveland's problems?
My faves in random order are Mayfield, Rudolph, and Darnold.
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Actually Manziel just did not grow up fast enough. He has been meeting all the requirements placed on him by the CFL for the past year and was recently approved by the league to sign a contract with those requirements still intact. That was after a thorough background investigation to insure he is meeting the requirements. And the Tiger-Cats just traded out their #1 QB to make room for him. Expect a contract signature soon and football in late spring just on the other side of the lake. Maybe he can take his former party boat over to save Hue when he jumps in. Just a couple years late is all.

Oh, and there is a coach there in Hamilton that actually believes in him, unlike his last little gig.
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