Patriots' dinasty finale?
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Biggest failure of his career? It was rather succesful, if you exclusively think about football and not about the Move, which happened when he was a coach and had nothing to do with it.
He had 4 losing seasons out of 5 years he was here. The "move" only affect the last half of his last season...and he was incapable of rallying his team to playing well after that event. It was announced in November of 1995. So yes, he was a failure simply from the football perspective.
I would be 100% on offering BB a job, but I see him rejecting it due to current ownership than his previous story with the team.
Well...we have no idea of what he thinks of current Browns ownership. Not really. Just because all we fans think Haslam sucks does not mean that is the general consensus of those inside the league.
He was setting a winning franchise. All the legacy he made during his Browns' tenure can be seen in the amount of HC, GMs et al that there are nowadays and were part of his coaching staff during that time.
Ozzie Newsome acknowledged that the SB that the Ravens won on '00 was born in Cleveland.
There is a documentary about it that I cannot find now.
And what he thinks of the Browns ownership can be seen in all what was commented (including this article) about the Garoppolo deal. And even if he wasn't half the great coach most of us think he is, he could see that being Browns HC isn't an ideal job, even less for him, who could choose which team to go to.
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It's interesting to read. What is really true and its real consequences remains to be known, but it somehow explaining the latest news coming from New England gives the article some credit.
It's interesting to read. What is really true and its real consequences remains to be known, but it somehow explaining the latest news coming from New England gives the article some credit.
This isn't news. THis is bullschidt.
THe STEELERS................... not internal strife is what stopped the Patriots this year. The media already knows the Pats string of luck has run out. The Steelers are the best team in the NFL and will wipe their asss with Brady again.
The Cleveland Browns have the hardest hit players in the NFL -
It's interesting to read. What is really true and its real consequences remains to be known, but it somehow explaining the latest news coming from New England gives the article some credit.
Nero, you're at least the tenth person to get into a BB debate with Gipper. Welcome to the club...
It's interesting to read. What is really true and its real consequences remains to be known, but it somehow explaining the latest news coming from New England gives the article some credit.
Thanks for the post... really good read.
One thing for sure... Pats are going QB hunting this draft... with barely decent ammo to get the job done. Their #1 and the 29ers #2.09 can get them into the upper end of the 3rd-quartile, mid-1st territory.
New England Patriots Picks:
Round 1 Pick 31
Round 2 Pick 9
Round 2 Pick 31
Round 3 Pick 31
Round 6 Pick 31
Future Picks:
2019 Round 1 Pick
2020 Round 1 PickSo...that is the soap opera apparently playing out in New England...
Food for thought, no?
You halfway summarized the article... minus some accuracy, a lot of depth and all nuance.
Having read the article I can tell you there's no food there... none... nada... given the line attributed to BB in the article that "when the owner gets involved in football decisions, then it's time to go". Plus Bill ain't going anywhere that he doesn't get the GM hat as well.
Your food did make me wonder if Al Lerner, ever considered inviting Bill to come home... DeBartolo probably dissuaded any thought along those lines.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
It's interesting to read. What is really true and its real consequences remains to be known, but it somehow explaining the latest news coming from New England gives the article some credit.
This isn't news. THis is bullschidt.
THe STEELERS................... not internal strife is what stopped the Patriots this year. The media already knows the Pats string of luck has run out. The Steelers are the best team in the NFL and will wipe their asss with Brady again.
This isn't news. THis is bullschidt.
THe STEELERS................... not internal strife is what stopped the Patriots this year. The media already knows the Pats string of luck has run out. The Steelers are the best team in the NFL and will wipe their asss with Brady again.
Cool, because I didn't read anything mentioning what did stop the Patriots this year in the article. It only talks about internal problems, and I'll be damned if some of the speculation doesn't make a lot of sense on the news we have got lately!
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Damn... I could have swore that the Pats beat the Steelers three weeks ago...
Oh wait, they did. Eleven unanswered points in the final 16:33.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
@boo-fagley said:
If bull $hit was money you would be rich.
Shefter just reported that BB is back in NE for the 2018 season. Unlike you his word is gold.
Boo, I am LMAO @ you continually kicking Gip in his old, crusty, brittle nutsack. Keep it up bro, it is a high point of my coming here.
The Cleveland Browns have the hardest hit players in the NFL -
Here is the deal. When this kind of schidt hits the wire, I feel that it is my job to post as many even more ridiculous comments about it just as a statement of how stupid these things are.
Ooooh, sources say that Trump's family is dysfunctional
Ooooooh sources say Bill Cowher just bought a home in Berea
These kind of stories are horseschidt. They are never backed up by witnesses, and they never pan out to be anything.
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Lol...no, not just because I root for them. Theres not a anyone in the football world with half a brain that would consider the Steelers boring.
I guess you didn't watch the Pats game.
You can argue that the Steelers used to be boring ...but recent Steeler teams are atypical of past teams...those teams having defenses that would smack you in the mouth and an offense that would "do just enough" to win games....Rarely could they mount comebacks like this team has.
You are as obtuse as usual. I am not saying the Steeler play a boring game. They do have some exciting players and play some close even wild games...which is all fine well and good. I am saying that we are bored with having them in contention. Who cares if they play like the XFL or play like three yards and a cloud of dust. It is boring having them be around.
That should not have been so hard to comprehend...but you managed it.
You are as obtuse as usual. I am not saying the Steeler play a boring game. They do have some exciting players and play some close even wild games...which is all fine well and good. I am saying that we are bored with having them in contention. Who cares if they play like the XFL or play like three yards and a cloud of dust. It is boring having them be around.
That should not have been so hard to comprehend...but you managed it.
OK,, then you should have said that in the first place. You said in the present tense "the Steelers and Pats are boring", you should have said "the Steelers and Pats would be boring."
Two entirely different conclusions, so its not a matter of being obtuse, its a matter of you failing to convey what you really mean.
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Damn... I could have swore that the Pats beat the Steelers three weeks ago...
Oh wait, they did. Eleven unanswered points in the final 16:33.
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@boo-fagley said:
You should be a moderator here Ghoolie instead they persecute you for being a soothsayer. Its looking like you might be spot on about Brady being done.
You predicted the end a year ago. How did you know Tom?
I thought he said he was done BEFORE he won another SB. If you say it every year, some year you will be right. That's just math and inevitability. BTW I predict that the earth will rotate and make it appear that the sun rises tomorrow. Now that's a soothsayer.
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He was setting a winning franchise. All the legacy he made during his Browns' tenure can be seen in the amount of HC, GMs et al that there are nowadays and were part of his coaching staff during that time.
Ozzie Newsome acknowledged that the SB that the Ravens won on '00 was born in Cleveland.
There is a documentary about it that I cannot find now.
And what he thinks of the Browns ownership can be seen in all what was commented (including this article) about the Garoppolo deal. And even if he wasn't half the great coach most of us think he is, he could see that being Browns HC isn't an ideal job, even less for him, who could choose which team to go to.
He was setting a winning franchise. All the legacy he made during his Browns' tenure can be seen in the amount of HC, GMs et al that there are nowadays and were part of his coaching staff during that time.
Ozzie Newsome acknowledged that the SB that the Ravens won on '00 was born in Cleveland.
There is a documentary about it that I cannot find now.
And what he thinks of the Browns ownership can be seen in all what was commented (including this article) about the Garoppolo deal. And even if he wasn't half the great coach most of us think he is, he could see that being Browns HC isn't an ideal job, even less for him, who could choose which team to go to.
BB was a failure here. Did he learn from his time here? Most certainly. Was he getting better as a coach as he went along.. Likely.......but that does not make him any less of a failure.
I mean....freeking Pat Shurmur is getting serious concern for other HC jobs. Will you argue that he was not a failure as a HC here?
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It's interesting to read. What is really true and its real consequences remains to be known, but it somehow explaining the latest news coming from New England gives the article some credit.
This isn't news. THis is bullschidt.
THe STEELERS................... not internal strife is what stopped the Patriots this year. The media already knows the Pats string of luck has run out. The Steelers are the best team in the NFL and will wipe their asss with Brady again.
This isn't news. THis is bullschidt.
THe STEELERS................... not internal strife is what stopped the Patriots this year. The media already knows the Pats string of luck has run out. The Steelers are the best team in the NFL and will wipe their asss with Brady again.
Funny....what was the score when they played...in Pittsburgh? Oh, yea...the strife ridden Pats still won. How did the Pats get home field advantage? By beating the Squibs.
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@boo-fagley said:
If bull $hit was money you would be rich.
Shefter just reported that BB is back in NE for the 2018 season. Unlike you his word is gold.
Yea...I just made it up......except for the fact that it was still being speculated about on ESPN this morning. Maybe you better call them and call them on it.
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Nero, you're at least the tenth person to get into a BB debate with Gipper. Welcome to the club...
It's interesting to read. What is really true and its real consequences remains to be known, but it somehow explaining the latest news coming from New England gives the article some credit.
Thanks for the post... really good read.
One thing for sure... Pats are going QB hunting this draft... with barely decent ammo to get the job done. Their #1 and the 29ers #2.09 can get them into the upper end of the 3rd-quartile, mid-1st territory.
New England Patriots Picks:
Round 1 Pick 31
Round 2 Pick 9
Round 2 Pick 31
Round 3 Pick 31
Round 6 Pick 31
Future Picks:
2019 Round 1 Pick
2020 Round 1 PickSo...that is the soap opera apparently playing out in New England...
Food for thought, no?
You halfway summarized the article... minus some accuracy, a lot of depth and all nuance.
Having read the article I can tell you there's no food there... none... nada... given the line attributed to BB in the article that "when the owner gets involved in football decisions, then it's time to go". Plus Bill ain't going anywhere that he doesn't get the GM hat as well.
Your food did make me wonder if Al Lerner, ever considered inviting Bill to come home... DeBartolo probably dissuaded any thought along those lines.
You halfway summarized the article... minus some accuracy, a lot of depth and all nuance.
Having read the article I can tell you there's no food there... none... nada... given the line attributed to BB in the article that "when the owner gets involved in football decisions, then it's time to go". Plus Bill ain't going anywhere that he doesn't get the GM hat as well.
Your food did make me wonder if Al Lerner, ever considered inviting Bill to come home... DeBartolo probably dissuaded any thought along those lines.
I didn't summarize the article...I didn't read it. I just related what I heard. So...if I was inaccurate...it is because the reports I heard were inaccurate. (though I don't think they were...you just say shite like that to make people think you are so much smarter than everyone else...when actually all you are is a bigger asshat than anyone else).
and of course...as "SUMMARY" by definition lacks depth and nuance. Or maybe you didn't know that.
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You are as obtuse as usual. I am not saying the Steeler play a boring game. They do have some exciting players and play some close even wild games...which is all fine well and good. I am saying that we are bored with having them in contention. Who cares if they play like the XFL or play like three yards and a cloud of dust. It is boring having them be around.
That should not have been so hard to comprehend...but you managed it.
OK,, then you should have said that in the first place. You said in the present tense "the Steelers and Pats are boring", you should have said "the Steelers and Pats would be boring."
Two entirely different conclusions, so its not a matter of being obtuse, its a matter of you failing to convey what you really mean.
OK,, then you should have said that in the first place. You said in the present tense "the Steelers and Pats are boring", you should have said "the Steelers and Pats would be boring."
Two entirely different conclusions, so its not a matter of being obtuse, its a matter of you failing to convey what you really mean.
Again, you are wrong...even concerning simple English . I said ..and these other boring POS teams, like Squibs and Pats can just fade away for a few decades.. So...I said that they ARE boring. "Would be" implies that something is conditional....such as "it would be boring if the Pats and Steelers made the playoffs". Except...they are already in the playoffs...so there is no "would be" about it. Having them be in contention IS boring....as I said.
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@boo-fagley said:
If bull $hit was money you would be rich.
Shefter just reported that BB is back in NE for the 2018 season. Unlike you his word is gold.
Boo, I am LMAO @ you continually kicking Gip in his old, crusty, brittle nutsack. Keep it up bro, it is a high point of my coming here.
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@boo-fagley said:
You should be a moderator here Ghoolie instead they persecute you for being a soothsayer. Its looking like you might be spot on about Brady being done.
You predicted the end a year ago. How did you know Tom?
Get a fuc-king room already...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
@boo-fagley said:
You should be a moderator here Ghoolie instead they persecute you for being a soothsayer. Its looking like you might be spot on about Brady being done.
You predicted the end a year ago. How did you know Tom?
Get a fuc-king room already...
Get a fuc-king room already...
Considering Ghoolie and boo are the same person, the hotel room would consist of Ghoolie, a box of tissues, lotion and a economy sized box of boner pills.
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@boo-fagley said:
You should be a moderator here Ghoolie instead they persecute you for being a soothsayer. Its looking like you might be spot on about Brady being done.
You predicted the end a year ago. How did you know Tom?
I thought he said he was done BEFORE he won another SB. If you say it every year, some year you will be right. That's just math and inevitability. BTW I predict that the earth will rotate and make it appear that the sun rises tomorrow. Now that's a soothsayer.
I thought he said he was done BEFORE he won another SB. If you say it every year, some year you will be right. That's just math and inevitability. BTW I predict that the earth will rotate and make it appear that the sun rises tomorrow. Now that's a soothsayer.
I said Brady was done when I saw him in the first half of the SB. I have no dog in that hunt because I am a visceral Belichik supporter. Hoorta will tell you that in 1995 I predicted to him that Bill B would be one of the greatest coaches of all time.
I knew Brady was done because I watch life with my eyes, and my brain is not polluted by what someone tells me to think. I never said Brady couldn't play competitive football, what I said was...................his razor sharp reflexes are gone, done, fini, kaput.
if any NFL opponent has the vision I do, he will ignore the fear of pressuring Brady, and abandon zone defenses. Given time to pass? Sure, he can hit open recievers for another 10 years. NFL coaches are mostly like you guys................making a game plan on what Brady used to be. Giving him more time to throw because they fear him shredding them.
That Brady is gone, deceased, he doesn't exist any more. Without miracles, and Atlanta letting up, giving Brady time, the Patriots would not have won last year. I predicted that he would not get to another AFC championship game in his life. I know, out on a limb, he is only one win away, yeah? The Steelers handled him, there is no doubt, and they didn't throw the kitchen sink at him.
Steelers versus patriots? Brady and Belichik have run their course. Football is a young mans game. Brady's mind and body are not what you think they are. He's done. Stick a fork in him.
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Considering Ghoolie and boo are the same person, the hotel room would consist of Ghoolie, a box of tissues, lotion and a economy sized box of boner pills.
Would you be willing to bet me your $1,000 against my $25,000? I cna call Stan and have him provide the IP locations for you.
The Cleveland Browns have the hardest hit players in the NFL
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