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  • Sorry, didn't read whole thread, but did anyone mention where one can now watch the parade?

    @sissyboyfloyd said:

    Sorry, didn't read whole thread, but did anyone mention where one can now watch the parade?

    On Uranus.com

  • @sissyboyfloyd said:

    Sorry, didn't read whole thread, but did anyone mention where one can now watch the parade?

    On Uranus.com

    @the-gipper said:

    On Uranus.com

    Don't forget the 3 D glasses

  • Sorry, didn't read whole thread, but did anyone mention where one can now watch the parade?

    @sissyboyfloyd said:

    Sorry, didn't read whole thread, but did anyone mention where one can now watch the parade?

    It’s on the page 1 of this thread.

  • @thenew23 said:

    Shelton made a good point. If this parade changes even 1 FA's mind about coming to Cleveland then these fans did themselves and the rest of us fans a major disservice. 

    We'll never know for sure, but this was an embarrassment that could make the FO's job even harder.  Regardless of the "intent" of the parade, you cannot change how others react to it. Players will see this and say "I don't want to go there and be embarrassed by those fans".

    A lesson to you all (from a behavior specialist), you cannot chose how others perceive your actions. Same as what happened with the anthem protest.  You CANNOT choose others' interpretations.  If kneeling is disrespectful in somebody's opinion, telling them your "intent" does not make the action less disrespectful in that person's view. If a player views the parade as an embarrassment, you cannot change their opinion by saying it was about "passion" and "sticking it to the FO."  Sorry, just not how the world works...

    Saying we should have a 0-16 parade is one thing, kind of funny; however, actually doing it was just stupid...

    Great post!

    Leads me to a short phrase I use often..."Perception is reality"

    Mike

    @canton-mike said:

    Great post!

    Leads me to a short phrase I use often..."Perception is reality"

    Mike

    As Al Davis said “Just Win Baby “

  • @thenew23 said:

    Shelton made a good point. If this parade changes even 1 FA's mind about coming to Cleveland then these fans did themselves and the rest of us fans a major disservice. 

    We'll never know for sure, but this was an embarrassment that could make the FO's job even harder.  Regardless of the "intent" of the parade, you cannot change how others react to it. Players will see this and say "I don't want to go there and be embarrassed by those fans".

    A lesson to you all (from a behavior specialist), you cannot chose how others perceive your actions. Same as what happened with the anthem protest.  You CANNOT choose others' interpretations.  If kneeling is disrespectful in somebody's opinion, telling them your "intent" does not make the action less disrespectful in that person's view. If a player views the parade as an embarrassment, you cannot change their opinion by saying it was about "passion" and "sticking it to the FO."  Sorry, just not how the world works...

    Saying we should have a 0-16 parade is one thing, kind of funny; however, actually doing it was just stupid...

    Awesome post...

    @tour2ma said:

    20 hours ago, thenew23 said:

    Shelton made a good point. If this parade changes even 1 FA's mind about coming to Cleveland then these fans did themselves and the rest of us fans a major disservice. 

    That's a riot.  The FANS are scaring away FA's.   Man that's funny stuff.

    I suppose it was the FANS that made Kyle Shanahan wash his hands of the Browns organization.......it was the FANS that drove Alex Mack away.  It's the FANS and this parade that have had potential draft picks stating they don't want to come to Cleveland.

  • @thenew23 said:

    Shelton made a good point. If this parade changes even 1 FA's mind about coming to Cleveland then these fans did themselves and the rest of us fans a major disservice. 

    We'll never know for sure, but this was an embarrassment that could make the FO's job even harder.  Regardless of the "intent" of the parade, you cannot change how others react to it. Players will see this and say "I don't want to go there and be embarrassed by those fans".

    A lesson to you all (from a behavior specialist), you cannot chose how others perceive your actions. Same as what happened with the anthem protest.  You CANNOT choose others' interpretations.  If kneeling is disrespectful in somebody's opinion, telling them your "intent" does not make the action less disrespectful in that person's view. If a player views the parade as an embarrassment, you cannot change their opinion by saying it was about "passion" and "sticking it to the FO."  Sorry, just not how the world works...

    Saying we should have a 0-16 parade is one thing, kind of funny; however, actually doing it was just stupid...

    Great post!

    Leads me to a short phrase I use often..."Perception is reality"

    Mike

    @canton-mike said:

    Great post!

    Leads me to a short phrase I use often..."Perception is reality"

    Mike

    ...except I highly, highly doubt this is going to change any FA's minds in regards to coming here. If a FA was opposed to crazy fans doing stupid Sheet that eliminates about 50% of the teams off the top. Players care about $$$ first, and fit a close second.

    You know why we don't get FA's? Because the team Shmucking sucks and has for a decade. We're stuck with the Kenny Britt's of the world until that changes, not because some dude dressed up like a T-Rex. Get over yourselves people, it comes off poorly.

  • @tour2ma said:

    20 hours ago, thenew23 said:

    Shelton made a good point. If this parade changes even 1 FA's mind about coming to Cleveland then these fans did themselves and the rest of us fans a major disservice. 

    That's a riot.  The FANS are scaring away FA's.   Man that's funny stuff.

    I suppose it was the FANS that made Kyle Shanahan wash his hands of the Browns organization.......it was the FANS that drove Alex Mack away.  It's the FANS and this parade that have had potential draft picks stating they don't want to come to Cleveland.

    @orion said:

    That's a riot.  The FANS are scaring away FA's.   Man that's funny stuff.

    I suppose it was the FANS that made Kyle Shanahan wash his hands of the Browns organization.......it was the FANS that drove Alex Mack away.  It's the FANS and this parade that have had potential draft picks stating they don't want to come to Cleveland.

    You "suppose" wrongly. Shelton DID make a good point. If a FA were to see the fans acting out, hating everything that moves, embarrassing the team if they don't win... that, to me, would be a definate tiebreaker if a highly valued FA had a few other teams really interested to sign him. What little video I saw on the news, there was a toilet, a coffin, hateful signs.... It doesn't relect well on the rest of us who are obviously disappointed, but looking forward to a qb that can lead the offense, db's to fix the pass defense, and wr's who can get open vs any defense they face, in the upcoming draft.

  • @orion said:

    That's a riot.  The FANS are scaring away FA's.   Man that's funny stuff.

    I suppose it was the FANS that made Kyle Shanahan wash his hands of the Browns organization.......it was the FANS that drove Alex Mack away.  It's the FANS and this parade that have had potential draft picks stating they don't want to come to Cleveland.

    You "suppose" wrongly. Shelton DID make a good point. If a FA were to see the fans acting out, hating everything that moves, embarrassing the team if they don't win... that, to me, would be a definate tiebreaker if a highly valued FA had a few other teams really interested to sign him. What little video I saw on the news, there was a toilet, a coffin, hateful signs.... It doesn't relect well on the rest of us who are obviously disappointed, but looking forward to a qb that can lead the offense, db's to fix the pass defense, and wr's who can get open vs any defense they face, in the upcoming draft.

    @calfoxwc said:

    You "suppose" wrongly. Shelton DID make a good point. If a FA were to see the fans acting out, hating everything that moves, embarrassing the team if they don't win... that, to me, would be a definate tiebreaker if a highly valued FA had a few other teams really interested to sign him. What little video I saw on the news, there was a toilet, a coffin, hateful signs.... It doesn't relect well on the rest of us who are obviously disappointed, but looking forward to a qb that can lead the offense, db's to fix the pass defense, and wr's who can get open vs any defense they face, in the upcoming draft.

    The team embarrasses themselves by not winning.  The coach embarrasses the team by being inept. The players embarrass themselves by not knowing how to make a high school tackle.  By not knowing how to catch a ball. By not knowing how to even look to see where they are lined up instead of being offsides....etc. etc. etc. etc.    The owner embarasses the fan and the team at being so inept at hiring the proper personell.

    There IS ONLY ONE aspect of this team that is NOT embarrassing....and that is the fan support that it gets.   That is the only proud thing practically that this team has going for it.  

    If these players want to shite on the fans for being passionate about our team....they do not deserve us.  They are what we know them to be:  LOSERS.  And with this they may be worse losers than even we believed.

  • @calfoxwc said:

    You "suppose" wrongly. Shelton DID make a good point. If a FA were to see the fans acting out, hating everything that moves, embarrassing the team if they don't win... that, to me, would be a definate tiebreaker if a highly valued FA had a few other teams really interested to sign him. What little video I saw on the news, there was a toilet, a coffin, hateful signs.... It doesn't relect well on the rest of us who are obviously disappointed, but looking forward to a qb that can lead the offense, db's to fix the pass defense, and wr's who can get open vs any defense they face, in the upcoming draft.

    The team embarrasses themselves by not winning.  The coach embarrasses the team by being inept. The players embarrass themselves by not knowing how to make a high school tackle.  By not knowing how to catch a ball. By not knowing how to even look to see where they are lined up instead of being offsides....etc. etc. etc. etc.    The owner embarasses the fan and the team at being so inept at hiring the proper personell.

    There IS ONLY ONE aspect of this team that is NOT embarrassing....and that is the fan support that it gets.   That is the only proud thing practically that this team has going for it.  

    If these players want to shite on the fans for being passionate about our team....they do not deserve us.  They are what we know them to be:  LOSERS.  And with this they may be worse losers than even we believed.

    @the-gipper said:

    The team embarrasses themselves by not winning.  The coach embarrasses the team by being inept. The players embarrass themselves by not knowing how to make a high school tackle.  By not knowing how to catch a ball. By not knowing how to even look to see where they are lined up instead of being offsides....etc. etc. etc. etc.    The owner embarasses the fan and the team at being so inept at hiring the proper personell.

    There IS ONLY ONE aspect of this team that is NOT embarrassing....and that is the fan support that it gets.   That is the only proud thing practically that this team has going for it.  

    If these players want to shite on the fans for being passionate about our team....they do not deserve us.  They are what we know them to be:  LOSERS.  And with this they may be worse losers than even we believed.

    Gipper,

    I hope you're kidding...FAN SUPPORT???..cowpoop!!!!!!   Get off your butt, come to a game, look at the empty seats, alleged fans leaving games early, those same fans(?) booing the Browns & probably the same fans who approved of the parade?...SUPPORT????...I DO want to thank you for this highly supportive post I have quoted. Obviously you don't know what support is!

    Mike

  • @calfoxwc said:

    You "suppose" wrongly. Shelton DID make a good point. If a FA were to see the fans acting out, hating everything that moves, embarrassing the team if they don't win... that, to me, would be a definate tiebreaker if a highly valued FA had a few other teams really interested to sign him. What little video I saw on the news, there was a toilet, a coffin, hateful signs.... It doesn't relect well on the rest of us who are obviously disappointed, but looking forward to a qb that can lead the offense, db's to fix the pass defense, and wr's who can get open vs any defense they face, in the upcoming draft.

    The team embarrasses themselves by not winning.  The coach embarrasses the team by being inept. The players embarrass themselves by not knowing how to make a high school tackle.  By not knowing how to catch a ball. By not knowing how to even look to see where they are lined up instead of being offsides....etc. etc. etc. etc.    The owner embarasses the fan and the team at being so inept at hiring the proper personell.

    There IS ONLY ONE aspect of this team that is NOT embarrassing....and that is the fan support that it gets.   That is the only proud thing practically that this team has going for it.  

    If these players want to shite on the fans for being passionate about our team....they do not deserve us.  They are what we know them to be:  LOSERS.  And with this they may be worse losers than even we believed.

    @the-gipper said:

    The team embarrasses themselves by not winning.  The coach embarrasses the team by being inept. The players embarrass themselves by not knowing how to make a high school tackle.  By not knowing how to catch a ball. By not knowing how to even look to see where they are lined up instead of being offsides....etc. etc. etc. etc.    The owner embarasses the fan and the team at being so inept at hiring the proper personell.

    There IS ONLY ONE aspect of this team that is NOT embarrassing....and that is the fan support that it gets.   That is the only proud thing practically that this team has going for it.  

    If these players want to shite on the fans for being passionate about our team....they do not deserve us.  They are what we know them to be:  LOSERS.  And with this they may be worse losers than even we believed.

       No. The team is embarrassing, everything went wrong, etc etcetc. But you fix that for next year, and the rest of us willbe happy, happy, happy. You are cherry picking about some players who just shouldn't be there next year on the starter roster.

    That is not the whole team. NO - there are several aspects of this team that we can be proud of. They fought like hell and really showedthey can slam the opposing rb's into the turf. They showed more than once the moxie to shut out an offense for four downs at the goal line.

       There is no player giving all fans any crap. Just not appreciating being mocked and ridiculed because SOME fans wanted to make an asinine spectacle of themselves, at the cost of ALL FANS. The rest of the many tens of thousands of us wouldn't have gone to the stupid parade. It did absolutely nothing to say good things about the fans who went there and acted out. They played their hearts out - just don't have the talent, (admitting that some players did stupid stuff and made huge mistakes).... That's all.

       They fought like hell, it just wouldn't work out one time. Having a small bunch of fans throw a temper tantrum for the media helps nothing, and adds to the unwarranted jokes about the Browns not winning, with ridicule about fans who can't handle losing with any class or respect for where we are right now.

       Furthermore, I didn't see the Browns quit, right up to the last second of the last game. And, that is something serious to build on with a great draft. But the "fans" who were a disgrace to the rest of the REAL fans who will never give up on our Browns and will still hang in there. As absolutely tough as they played all year, a "Few" fans gave them a hearse, coffin and a commode.

         Like it was eloquently stated earlier, the so-called intention of this "parade" was bs - because it was not taken as

    anything else, and it's the parade goer's fault..

  • @the-gipper said:

    The team embarrasses themselves by not winning.  The coach embarrasses the team by being inept. The players embarrass themselves by not knowing how to make a high school tackle.  By not knowing how to catch a ball. By not knowing how to even look to see where they are lined up instead of being offsides....etc. etc. etc. etc.    The owner embarasses the fan and the team at being so inept at hiring the proper personell.

    There IS ONLY ONE aspect of this team that is NOT embarrassing....and that is the fan support that it gets.   That is the only proud thing practically that this team has going for it.  

    If these players want to shite on the fans for being passionate about our team....they do not deserve us.  They are what we know them to be:  LOSERS.  And with this they may be worse losers than even we believed.

    Gipper,

    I hope you're kidding...FAN SUPPORT???..cowpoop!!!!!!   Get off your butt, come to a game, look at the empty seats, alleged fans leaving games early, those same fans(?) booing the Browns & probably the same fans who approved of the parade?...SUPPORT????...I DO want to thank you for this highly supportive post I have quoted. Obviously you don't know what support is!

    Mike

    @canton-mike said:

    Gipper,

    I hope you're kidding...FAN SUPPORT???..cowpoop!!!!!!   Get off your butt, come to a game, look at the empty seats, alleged fans leaving games early, those same fans(?) booing the Browns & probably the same fans who approved of the parade?...SUPPORT????...I DO want to thank you for this highly supportive post I have quoted. Obviously you don't know what support is!

    Mike

    I suppose golf claps combined with "It's OK men, you tried your best and will get 'em next time...... as long as you had fun, that's all that matters" chants by real fans will undoubtedly take the team from a 1-31 laughingstock to a winner in no time flat!

  • @the-gipper said:

    The team embarrasses themselves by not winning.  The coach embarrasses the team by being inept. The players embarrass themselves by not knowing how to make a high school tackle.  By not knowing how to catch a ball. By not knowing how to even look to see where they are lined up instead of being offsides....etc. etc. etc. etc.    The owner embarasses the fan and the team at being so inept at hiring the proper personell.

    There IS ONLY ONE aspect of this team that is NOT embarrassing....and that is the fan support that it gets.   That is the only proud thing practically that this team has going for it.  

    If these players want to shite on the fans for being passionate about our team....they do not deserve us.  They are what we know them to be:  LOSERS.  And with this they may be worse losers than even we believed.

       No. The team is embarrassing, everything went wrong, etc etcetc. But you fix that for next year, and the rest of us willbe happy, happy, happy. You are cherry picking about some players who just shouldn't be there next year on the starter roster.

    That is not the whole team. NO - there are several aspects of this team that we can be proud of. They fought like hell and really showedthey can slam the opposing rb's into the turf. They showed more than once the moxie to shut out an offense for four downs at the goal line.

       There is no player giving all fans any crap. Just not appreciating being mocked and ridiculed because SOME fans wanted to make an asinine spectacle of themselves, at the cost of ALL FANS. The rest of the many tens of thousands of us wouldn't have gone to the stupid parade. It did absolutely nothing to say good things about the fans who went there and acted out. They played their hearts out - just don't have the talent, (admitting that some players did stupid stuff and made huge mistakes).... That's all.

       They fought like hell, it just wouldn't work out one time. Having a small bunch of fans throw a temper tantrum for the media helps nothing, and adds to the unwarranted jokes about the Browns not winning, with ridicule about fans who can't handle losing with any class or respect for where we are right now.

       Furthermore, I didn't see the Browns quit, right up to the last second of the last game. And, that is something serious to build on with a great draft. But the "fans" who were a disgrace to the rest of the REAL fans who will never give up on our Browns and will still hang in there. As absolutely tough as they played all year, a "Few" fans gave them a hearse, coffin and a commode.

         Like it was eloquently stated earlier, the so-called intention of this "parade" was bs - because it was not taken as

    anything else, and it's the parade goer's fault..

    @calfoxwc said:

       No. The team is embarrassing, everything went wrong, etc etcetc. But you fix that for next year, and the rest of us willbe happy, happy, happy. You are cherry picking about some players who just shouldn't be there next year on the starter roster.

    That is not the whole team. NO - there are several aspects of this team that we can be proud of. They fought like hell and really showedthey can slam the opposing rb's into the turf. They showed more than once the moxie to shut out an offense for four downs at the goal line.

       There is no player giving all fans any crap. Just not appreciating being mocked and ridiculed because SOME fans wanted to make an asinine spectacle of themselves, at the cost of ALL FANS. The rest of the many tens of thousands of us wouldn't have gone to the stupid parade. It did absolutely nothing to say good things about the fans who went there and acted out. They played their hearts out - just don't have the talent, (admitting that some players did stupid stuff and made huge mistakes).... That's all.

       They fought like hell, it just wouldn't work out one time. Having a small bunch of fans throw a temper tantrum for the media helps nothing, and adds to the unwarranted jokes about the Browns not winning, with ridicule about fans who can't handle losing with any class or respect for where we are right now.

       Furthermore, I didn't see the Browns quit, right up to the last second of the last game. And, that is something serious to build on with a great draft. But the "fans" who were a disgrace to the rest of the REAL fans who will never give up on our Browns and will still hang in there. As absolutely tough as they played all year, a "Few" fans gave them a hearse, coffin and a commode.

         Like it was eloquently stated earlier, the so-called intention of this "parade" was bs - because it was not taken as

    anything else, and it's the parade goer's fault..

    As one sign said Cal THEY TRIED

     If you want to take it as mockery- be my guest. The Browns are a national joke if you haven't noticed, getting regularly mocked on ESPN  and pregame broadcasts. So it's OK for the talking heads to mock the Browns ineptitude, and the Fans can't have a little humor over the same? 

    Lighten up Cal. No one is blaming the players for lack of effort- I suppose Shelton's pride is all hurtsie because the team wasn't good enough (or well coached enough) to win ONE STINKING GAME ALL YEAR. 

  • @calfoxwc said:

       No. The team is embarrassing, everything went wrong, etc etcetc. But you fix that for next year, and the rest of us willbe happy, happy, happy. You are cherry picking about some players who just shouldn't be there next year on the starter roster.

    That is not the whole team. NO - there are several aspects of this team that we can be proud of. They fought like hell and really showedthey can slam the opposing rb's into the turf. They showed more than once the moxie to shut out an offense for four downs at the goal line.

       There is no player giving all fans any crap. Just not appreciating being mocked and ridiculed because SOME fans wanted to make an asinine spectacle of themselves, at the cost of ALL FANS. The rest of the many tens of thousands of us wouldn't have gone to the stupid parade. It did absolutely nothing to say good things about the fans who went there and acted out. They played their hearts out - just don't have the talent, (admitting that some players did stupid stuff and made huge mistakes).... That's all.

       They fought like hell, it just wouldn't work out one time. Having a small bunch of fans throw a temper tantrum for the media helps nothing, and adds to the unwarranted jokes about the Browns not winning, with ridicule about fans who can't handle losing with any class or respect for where we are right now.

       Furthermore, I didn't see the Browns quit, right up to the last second of the last game. And, that is something serious to build on with a great draft. But the "fans" who were a disgrace to the rest of the REAL fans who will never give up on our Browns and will still hang in there. As absolutely tough as they played all year, a "Few" fans gave them a hearse, coffin and a commode.

         Like it was eloquently stated earlier, the so-called intention of this "parade" was bs - because it was not taken as

    anything else, and it's the parade goer's fault..

    As one sign said Cal THEY TRIED

     If you want to take it as mockery- be my guest. The Browns are a national joke if you haven't noticed, getting regularly mocked on ESPN  and pregame broadcasts. So it's OK for the talking heads to mock the Browns ineptitude, and the Fans can't have a little humor over the same? 

    Lighten up Cal. No one is blaming the players for lack of effort- I suppose Shelton's pride is all hurtsie because the team wasn't good enough (or well coached enough) to win ONE STINKING GAME ALL YEAR. 

    @hoorta said:

    As one sign said Cal THEY TRIED

     If you want to take it as mockery- be my guest. The Browns are a national joke if you haven't noticed, getting regularly mocked on ESPN  and pregame broadcasts. So it's OK for the talking heads to mock the Browns ineptitude, and the Fans can't have a little humor over the same? 

    Lighten up Cal. No one is blaming the players for lack of effort- I suppose Shelton's pride is all hurtsie because the team wasn't good enough (or well coached enough) to win ONE STINKING GAME ALL YEAR. 

    If the players were truthful they would not blame the fans for reacting this way, nor would they blame themselves for zero victories. But they would be entirely accurate if they put the blame on the entire coaching staff which failed them miserably starting with the guy with no clock management or red zone play calling skills and ending with the guy who keeps getting the red flag toss screwed up. Who the hell is spotting up there anyway?

  • @hoorta said:

    As one sign said Cal THEY TRIED

     If you want to take it as mockery- be my guest. The Browns are a national joke if you haven't noticed, getting regularly mocked on ESPN  and pregame broadcasts. So it's OK for the talking heads to mock the Browns ineptitude, and the Fans can't have a little humor over the same? 

    Lighten up Cal. No one is blaming the players for lack of effort- I suppose Shelton's pride is all hurtsie because the team wasn't good enough (or well coached enough) to win ONE STINKING GAME ALL YEAR. 

    If the players were truthful they would not blame the fans for reacting this way, nor would they blame themselves for zero victories. But they would be entirely accurate if they put the blame on the entire coaching staff which failed them miserably starting with the guy with no clock management or red zone play calling skills and ending with the guy who keeps getting the red flag toss screwed up. Who the hell is spotting up there anyway?

    @texasag1969 said:

    If the players were truthful they would not blame the fans for reacting this way, nor would they blame themselves for ro victories. But they would be entirely accurate if they put the blame on the entire coaching staff which failed them miserably starting with the guy with no clock management or red zone play calling skills and ending with the guy who keeps getting the red flag toss screwed up. Who the hell is spotting up there anyway?

    Still can't believe Sushi was fired before Baby Huey.

  • @texasag1969 said:

    If the players were truthful they would not blame the fans for reacting this way, nor would they blame themselves for ro victories. But they would be entirely accurate if they put the blame on the entire coaching staff which failed them miserably starting with the guy with no clock management or red zone play calling skills and ending with the guy who keeps getting the red flag toss screwed up. Who the hell is spotting up there anyway?

    Still can't believe Sushi was fired before Baby Huey.

    @d-bone said:

    Still can't believe Sushi was fired before Baby Huey.

    He played the game better than Sashi with Jimmy...

  • @texasag1969 said:

    If the players were truthful they would not blame the fans for reacting this way, nor would they blame themselves for ro victories. But they would be entirely accurate if they put the blame on the entire coaching staff which failed them miserably starting with the guy with no clock management or red zone play calling skills and ending with the guy who keeps getting the red flag toss screwed up. Who the hell is spotting up there anyway?

    Still can't believe Sushi was fired before Baby Huey.

    @d-bone said:

    Still can't believe Sushi was fired before Baby Huey.

    It was because Huey convinced Jimmy he only needed McCarron to be a great HC and Sushi screwed up the deal. Jimmy is a gullible idiot.

  • Sorry, didn't read whole thread, but did anyone mention where one can now watch the parade?

    @sissyboyfloyd said:

    Sorry, didn't read whole thread, but did anyone mention where one can now watch the parade?

    It's on youtube, one video is 40 Mins long. Once again if they don't want a parade win a goddamn game simple as that. No one to blame but themselves, they should be ashamed. 

  • @calfoxwc said:

       No. The team is embarrassing, everything went wrong, etc etcetc. But you fix that for next year, and the rest of us willbe happy, happy, happy. You are cherry picking about some players who just shouldn't be there next year on the starter roster.

    That is not the whole team. NO - there are several aspects of this team that we can be proud of. They fought like hell and really showedthey can slam the opposing rb's into the turf. They showed more than once the moxie to shut out an offense for four downs at the goal line.

       There is no player giving all fans any crap. Just not appreciating being mocked and ridiculed because SOME fans wanted to make an asinine spectacle of themselves, at the cost of ALL FANS. The rest of the many tens of thousands of us wouldn't have gone to the stupid parade. It did absolutely nothing to say good things about the fans who went there and acted out. They played their hearts out - just don't have the talent, (admitting that some players did stupid stuff and made huge mistakes).... That's all.

       They fought like hell, it just wouldn't work out one time. Having a small bunch of fans throw a temper tantrum for the media helps nothing, and adds to the unwarranted jokes about the Browns not winning, with ridicule about fans who can't handle losing with any class or respect for where we are right now.

       Furthermore, I didn't see the Browns quit, right up to the last second of the last game. And, that is something serious to build on with a great draft. But the "fans" who were a disgrace to the rest of the REAL fans who will never give up on our Browns and will still hang in there. As absolutely tough as they played all year, a "Few" fans gave them a hearse, coffin and a commode.

         Like it was eloquently stated earlier, the so-called intention of this "parade" was bs - because it was not taken as

    anything else, and it's the parade goer's fault..

    As one sign said Cal THEY TRIED

     If you want to take it as mockery- be my guest. The Browns are a national joke if you haven't noticed, getting regularly mocked on ESPN  and pregame broadcasts. So it's OK for the talking heads to mock the Browns ineptitude, and the Fans can't have a little humor over the same? 

    Lighten up Cal. No one is blaming the players for lack of effort- I suppose Shelton's pride is all hurtsie because the team wasn't good enough (or well coached enough) to win ONE STINKING GAME ALL YEAR. 

    @hoorta said:

    As one sign said Cal THEY TRIED

     If you want to take it as mockery- be my guest. The Browns are a national joke if you haven't noticed, getting regularly mocked on ESPN  and pregame broadcasts. So it's OK for the talking heads to mock the Browns ineptitude, and the Fans can't have a little humor over the same? 

    Lighten up Cal. No one is blaming the players for lack of effort- I suppose Shelton's pride is all hurtsie because the team wasn't good enough (or well coached enough) to win ONE STINKING GAME ALL YEAR. 

    right. "lighten up" means "don't disagree with me, or I'll get the redass"

    Of course the media jokes about the Browns dismal season. But pretty much everybody respects Browns fans for hanging in there,

    and supporting their team regardless. It isn't like they lost 45-0 half the season. Now, of course, the frustration of some emotional knee jerk angry "fans" went and made the fans more a joke that the no win season did. I figure it's you folks who support that "parade of fools" nonsense that are all "hurtsie" It just didn't represent the entire Browns fanbase well at all. commode? coffin? Just poor taste, that's all, and it didn't come across as respectable.

  • @hoorta said:

    As one sign said Cal THEY TRIED

     If you want to take it as mockery- be my guest. The Browns are a national joke if you haven't noticed, getting regularly mocked on ESPN  and pregame broadcasts. So it's OK for the talking heads to mock the Browns ineptitude, and the Fans can't have a little humor over the same? 

    Lighten up Cal. No one is blaming the players for lack of effort- I suppose Shelton's pride is all hurtsie because the team wasn't good enough (or well coached enough) to win ONE STINKING GAME ALL YEAR. 

    If the players were truthful they would not blame the fans for reacting this way, nor would they blame themselves for zero victories. But they would be entirely accurate if they put the blame on the entire coaching staff which failed them miserably starting with the guy with no clock management or red zone play calling skills and ending with the guy who keeps getting the red flag toss screwed up. Who the hell is spotting up there anyway?

    @texasag1969 said:

    If the players were truthful they would not blame the fans for reacting this way, nor would they blame themselves for zero victories. But they would be entirely accurate if they put the blame on the entire coaching staff which failed them miserably starting with the guy with no clock management or red zone play calling skills and ending with the guy who keeps getting the red flag toss screwed up. Who the hell is spotting up there anyway?

    bs.

    Sharon Broussard, chief editorial writer, cleveland.com:

    If the Browns can't get on the map for winning, why should they go down in history as a team with a losers' parade?  This is beyond humiliating -- and let's not repeat this embarrassment next year should the Browns come up winless in 2018.

    Ted Diadiun, editorial board member:

    I think this is a pathetic and disgusting grab for publicity by someone who can't find any other way to get people to pay attention to him. It will do nothing but offer up a chance for any news broadcast in the country to take easy, mindless shots at ridiculing our city, and I've got nothing but contempt for the organizers and anyone who shows up for this foolishness.  

  • @orion said:

    That's a riot.  The FANS are scaring away FA's.   Man that's funny stuff.

    I suppose it was the FANS that made Kyle Shanahan wash his hands of the Browns organization.......it was the FANS that drove Alex Mack away.  It's the FANS and this parade that have had potential draft picks stating they don't want to come to Cleveland.

    You "suppose" wrongly. Shelton DID make a good point. If a FA were to see the fans acting out, hating everything that moves, embarrassing the team if they don't win... that, to me, would be a definate tiebreaker if a highly valued FA had a few other teams really interested to sign him. What little video I saw on the news, there was a toilet, a coffin, hateful signs.... It doesn't relect well on the rest of us who are obviously disappointed, but looking forward to a qb that can lead the offense, db's to fix the pass defense, and wr's who can get open vs any defense they face, in the upcoming draft.

    @calfoxwc said:

    If a FA were to see the fans acting out,

    You've got to be kidding me.  

    Do you realize that you're talking about BROWNS FANS?

    What's the only team that picked up and moved and were not allowed to take the team name, colors and tradition?  And why?

    answer:  The Browns.  Because of the fans.

    The LAST thing a FA would be worried about in coming to Cleveland would be the fans.

    Can you picture a player in ANY big sport saying, "Oh, I won't go to THAT team because the fans might not like me."   My goodness....