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  • Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven

    @tour2ma said:

    Niw we have to suffer 7 years before a change? Oy vey...

    Bears announced KC's OC Matt Nagy as their new HC about the same time you posted this.

    I'm going to definitely keep an eye on how this turns out, seeing that there was rumors that if Hue had gotten fired, Nagy was his probable/possible replacement.

    @dutch-oven said:

    I'm going to definitely keep an eye on how this turns out, seeing that there was rumors that if Hue had gotten fired, Nagy was his probable/possible replacement.

    Nagy wasn't on my radar, but Reid's coaching tree is really impressive. On NFL Live yesterday Louis Riddick was going on and on yesterday about how Reid prepares his staff for future success.

    It’s very possible that the Big Red coaching tree will expand to include eight teams, or 25 percent of the league (H/T Will Brinson of CBS Sports for noticing this first)

    Will Brinson@WillBrinson
    So now 7/32 head coaches in the NFL will be from the Andy Reid coaching tree. More than 20 percent!

    Reid - KC
    John Harbaugh - BAL
    Ron Rivera - CAR
    Doug Pederson - PHI
    Todd Bowles - NYJ
    Sean McDermott - BUF
    Matt Nagy - CHI

    If Pat Shurmur lands a gig, 1/4 of NFL = Reid tree.
    Jan 8, 2018 1.1K 85View on X

    There is currently Andy Reid and six of his former underlings as head coaches in the NFL. Chiefs special teams coach Dave Toub is considered a possibility for someone this year. Pat Shurmur is the offensive coordinator of the Vikings and considered a head coaching candidate this year.

    If Shurmur or Toub gets a job, that’ll be eight.

    https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2018/1/9/16863682/andy-reid-coaching-tree-could-stretch-to-more-than-25-percent-of-the-league

    @flyingfooldoug said:

    Football is about winning. Not some indefinite long term losing strategy playing with numbers.

    So step one is "Win" and step two is "See step one"?

    Simple plan for simple folks.

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
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  • flyingfooldougF flyingfooldoug

    @wargograw said:

    Wait wait wait. Me not understanding that (supposedly) means you don't have to use facts? Interesting. Explains alot.

    Why let the facts get in the way. Never been fishing  either?  Football is about winning. Not some indefinite long term losing strategy playing with numbers. John boy is in Canada now. Maybe he will play nice with you.

    @flyingfooldoug said:

    Why let the facts get in the way. Never been fishing  either?  Football is about winning. Not some indefinite long term losing strategy playing with numbers. John boy is in Canada now. Maybe he will play nice with you.

    So by your own admission facts don’t matter. Sweet. Good talk. 

  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    @dutch-oven said:

    I'm going to definitely keep an eye on how this turns out, seeing that there was rumors that if Hue had gotten fired, Nagy was his probable/possible replacement.

    Nagy wasn't on my radar, but Reid's coaching tree is really impressive. On NFL Live yesterday Louis Riddick was going on and on yesterday about how Reid prepares his staff for future success.

    It’s very possible that the Big Red coaching tree will expand to include eight teams, or 25 percent of the league (H/T Will Brinson of CBS Sports for noticing this first)

    Will Brinson@WillBrinson
    So now 7/32 head coaches in the NFL will be from the Andy Reid coaching tree. More than 20 percent!

    Reid - KC
    John Harbaugh - BAL
    Ron Rivera - CAR
    Doug Pederson - PHI
    Todd Bowles - NYJ
    Sean McDermott - BUF
    Matt Nagy - CHI

    If Pat Shurmur lands a gig, 1/4 of NFL = Reid tree.
    Jan 8, 2018 1.1K 85View on X

    There is currently Andy Reid and six of his former underlings as head coaches in the NFL. Chiefs special teams coach Dave Toub is considered a possibility for someone this year. Pat Shurmur is the offensive coordinator of the Vikings and considered a head coaching candidate this year.

    If Shurmur or Toub gets a job, that’ll be eight.

    https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2018/1/9/16863682/andy-reid-coaching-tree-could-stretch-to-more-than-25-percent-of-the-league

    @flyingfooldoug said:

    Football is about winning. Not some indefinite long term losing strategy playing with numbers.

    So step one is "Win" and step two is "See step one"?

    Simple plan for simple folks.

    @tour2ma said:

    Nagy wasn't on my radar, but Reid's coaching tree is really impressive. On NFL Live yesterday Louis Riddick was going on and on yesterday about how Reid prepares his staff for future success.

    It’s very possible that the Big Red coaching tree will expand to include eight teams, or 25 percent of the league (H/T Will Brinson of CBS Sports for noticing this first)

    There is currently Andy Reid and six of his former underlings as head coaches in the NFL. Chiefs special teams coach Dave Toub is considered a possibility for someone this year. Pat Shurmur is the offensive coordinator of the Vikings and considered a head coaching candidate this year.

    If Shurmur or Toub gets a job, that’ll be eight.

    https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2018/1/9/16863682/andy-reid-coaching-tree-could-stretch-to-more-than-25-percent-of-the-league

    So step one is "Win" and step two is "See step one"?

    Simple plan for simple folks.

    Or a guy that studies film along with a stat sheet. Isn't so arrogant that he can listen to others. First in, last out.... Yep simple is as simple does. Why make it complex? KISS?

  • flyingfooldougF flyingfooldoug

    @tour2ma said:

    Nagy wasn't on my radar, but Reid's coaching tree is really impressive. On NFL Live yesterday Louis Riddick was going on and on yesterday about how Reid prepares his staff for future success.

    It’s very possible that the Big Red coaching tree will expand to include eight teams, or 25 percent of the league (H/T Will Brinson of CBS Sports for noticing this first)

    There is currently Andy Reid and six of his former underlings as head coaches in the NFL. Chiefs special teams coach Dave Toub is considered a possibility for someone this year. Pat Shurmur is the offensive coordinator of the Vikings and considered a head coaching candidate this year.

    If Shurmur or Toub gets a job, that’ll be eight.

    https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2018/1/9/16863682/andy-reid-coaching-tree-could-stretch-to-more-than-25-percent-of-the-league

    So step one is "Win" and step two is "See step one"?

    Simple plan for simple folks.

    Or a guy that studies film along with a stat sheet. Isn't so arrogant that he can listen to others. First in, last out.... Yep simple is as simple does. Why make it complex? KISS?

    @flyingfooldoug said:

    Or a guy that studies film along with a stat sheet. Isn't so arrogant that he can listen to others. First in, last out.... Yep simple is as simple does. Why make it complex? KISS?

    First, no thanks.

    Second, you just complicated things.

    Third, that "guy" is called a "scout".

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
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  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    @flyingfooldoug said:

    Or a guy that studies film along with a stat sheet. Isn't so arrogant that he can listen to others. First in, last out.... Yep simple is as simple does. Why make it complex? KISS?

    First, no thanks.

    Second, you just complicated things.

    Third, that "guy" is called a "scout".

    @tour2ma said:

    First in, last out

    Nah.  First in's gotta make the coffee.

    We want that in a QB.  (a QB that makes good coffee)

    BEING A BROWNS FAN IS A TEST TO SEE HOW MUCH YOU CAN TAKE
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  • OrionO Orion

    @tour2ma said:

    First in, last out

    Nah.  First in's gotta make the coffee.

    We want that in a QB.  (a QB that makes good coffee)

    @orion said:

    Nah.  First in's gotta make the coffee.

    We want that in a QB.  (a QB that makes good coffee)

    What about a QB projected to be a nice coffee maker? You don't want to draft a guy who makes great coffee but always makes a mess. 

    😂
  • OrionO Orion

    @tour2ma said:

    First in, last out

    Nah.  First in's gotta make the coffee.

    We want that in a QB.  (a QB that makes good coffee)

    @orion said:

    Nah.  First in's gotta make the coffee.

    We want that in a QB.  (a QB that makes good coffee)

    Coffee is for Closers.

    😂
  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    @flyingfooldoug said:

    Or a guy that studies film along with a stat sheet. Isn't so arrogant that he can listen to others. First in, last out.... Yep simple is as simple does. Why make it complex? KISS?

    First, no thanks.

    Second, you just complicated things.

    Third, that "guy" is called a "scout".

    @tour2ma said:

    First, no thanks.

    Second, you just complicated things.

    Third, that "guy" is called a "scout".

    No, it's called problem solving. KISS. Keep It Simple Stupid

    Any seemingly large problem can be broken down into a series of smaller problems. These then have easier solutions. Sorry Stosh didn't work for ya. I don't see anyone lining up to hire a 2 time loser and I dam sure don't see any other teams trying out a total anal ytics program. BTW, GM is just the head scout. He should look at film. That was one of the criticisms of Stosh. 

  • Only you would want a lawyer with no football background "looking at film."

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    Only you would want a lawyer with no football background "looking at film."

    @tour2ma said:

    Only you would want a lawyer with no football background "looking at film."

    Five NFL GMs actually apparently have law degrees.    (or did when you included Sashi).    Not sure about their additional background in football. The others may have had a lot more than Sashi.

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