ODDS TO WIN THE AFC, NFC and SB LII

mjp28

NFL SPREAD

01/13 4:35 PM 301 Atlanta 302 Philadelphia	-3 -05 44u-15	-3 -10 41u-10	-3 EV 41u-10	-3 EV 41½u-10	-3 EV 41½u-10	-3 EV 41u-10	-2½ -20 41u-10	-3 EV 41½u-10	-3 -05 41u-12	Picks
PHI-QB-Carson Wentz-OUT \| TV: NBC
01/13 8:15 PM 303 Tennessee 304 New England	47u-10 -13½ -20	47u-10 -13½ -10	47u-10 -13½ -10	47½u-10 -13 -10	47u-10 -13½ -10	47½u-10 -13½ -10	47½u-10 -13½ -10	47u-10 -13½ -10	47u-10 -13½ -05	Picks
TV: CBS
01/14 1:05 PM 305 Jacksonville 306 Pittsburgh	40½u-10 -7½ -05	41u-10 -7½ -10	41u-10 -7½ EV	41u-10 -7½ -05	41u-10 -7½ -10	41u-10 -7½ -10	40½u-10 -7 -20	40½u-10 -7½ EV	41u-10 -7½ +10	Picks
PIT-WR-Antonio Brown-Probable \| TV: CBS
01/14 4:40 PM 307 New Orleans 308 Minnesota	45u-10 -3½ -05	45½u-10 -4 -10	45½u-10 -4 -10	45½u-10 -4 -20	45u-10 -4 -10	45u-10 -4 -10	45u-10 -4 -10	45½u-10 -4½ -10	45½o-11 -4 -10	Picks
MIN-RB-Dalvin Cook-OUT \| TV: FOX
01/28 3:00 PM 497 AFC 498 NFC		51½u-10 PK -10	51½u-10 -2½ -10
TV: ESPN, DTV: 206

Updated: Wed, Jan 10 11:50 AM EDT

NOTES:

Open Line: Consists of the first betting line received from one of our Las Vegas or Online sportsbooks.
VI Consensus: Consists of the current betting line which occurs most frequently among our list of Las Vegas and Online sportsbooks.
All Game Times are Eastern Standard Time.

The Cysko Kid

@dawg2fan said:

My wife's family would argue that any Championship before the SuperBowl era does not count. So, everything the Browns won before that era does not count, regardless of how much I try to argue. So to put it mildy, they even have me believing that our wins don't count. It's sick, but that's the way it is.

That's stupid. If they don't count the Steelers titles in the 70s don't count either on account of how fully 1/8 of the league was not in existence at that time

The Gipper

@the-cysko-kid said:

That's stupid. If they don't count the Steelers titles in the 70s don't count either on account of how fully 1/8 of the league was not in existence at that time

No need to be concerned about what stupid Steeler fan thinks....they ALL count. Yes, while they all count.....I say this over and over again: the only ones that matter are the last one and the next one. Every other one is just part of history.

mjp28

Updated odds from vegasinsider.com......

ODDS TO WIN 2017-18 SUPER BOWL LII (2/4/18)

Team	Odds
New England Patriots	7/4
Minnesota Vikings	7/2
Pittsburgh Steelers	11/2
New Orleans Saints	6/1
Atlanta Falcons	15/2
Philadelphia Eagles	12/1
Jacksonville Jaguars	16/1
Tennessee Titans	40/1

ODDS TO WIN 2017-18 AFC CHAMPIONSHIP (7/21/18)

Team	Odds
New England Patriots	4/7
Pittsburgh Steelers	9/4
Jacksonville Jaguars	8/1
Tennessee Titans	25/1

ODDS TO WIN 2017-18 NFC CHAMPIONSHIP (7/21/18)

Team	Odds
Minnesota Vikings	27/20
New Orleans Saints	11/4
Atlanta Falcons	15/4
Philadelphia Eagles	4/1

The Gipper

After last night the Pats do seem a prohibitive favorite.

I mean, could Brady be the GOAT? Even over Jim Brown and Jerry Rice?

mjp28

@the-gipper said:

After last night the Pats do seem a prohibitive favorite.

I mean, could Brady be the GOAT? Even over Jim Brown and Jerry Rice?

Wow those are seriously big words......but might be TRUE!

The Gipper

Steelers chance of winning the Super Bowl effing zero. Die matafakas.

mjp28

@the-gipper said:

Steelers chance of winning the Super Bowl if you CK zero. Die motherShmucker's

Now if NO can knock off MIN? That will shaKe things up. And JAX at NE, what will that spread be? I'm guessing NE -8.

The Gipper

@mjp28 said:

Now if NO can knock off MIN? That will shaKe things up. And JAX at NE, what will that spread be? I'm guessing NE -8.

I think I would prefer to see Minnesota win. They have never won a championship and New Orleans at least had one six or eight years ago I think.

mjp28

@the-gipper said:

I think I would prefer to see Minnesota win. They have never won a championship and New Orleans at least had one six or eight years agoI think I would prefer to see Minnesota win. They have never won a championship and New Orleans at least had one six or eight years ago

Well I picked MIN -4 FWIW, 17-0 late 2nd looking pretty good, shutting down Drew Brees.

Nero

@mjp28 said:

Well I picked MIN -4 FWIW, 17-0 late 2nd looking pretty good, shutting down Drew Brees.

Just 1 stat: they never received more than 19 points at home this year. Man, it is looking ugly for the Saints! What a great team Minnesota is. Everyone has contributed so far.

mjp28

@mjp28 said:

Now if NO can knock off MIN? That will shaKe things up. And JAX at NE, what will that spread be? I'm guessing NE -8.

Some real early numbers:

AFC Championship Game

Sunday, Jan. 21 3:05 p.m.

PATRIOTS -9.5 Jaguars

Odds to win AFC Championship

Patriots 2/1 Jaguars 10/1......whoa not even close!

NFC Championship Game

Sunday, Jan. 21 6:40 p.m.

Vikings -3 EAGLES or Saints -2.5 EAGLES

mjp28

@mjp28 said:

Well I picked MIN -4 FWIW, 17-0 late 2nd looking pretty good, shutting down Drew Brees.

NO SAINTS 24 MIN VIKINGS 23 Final........oooops last play MIN 29 NO 24

Geeezzzus H Christmas, nevermind. (saved my perfect 4-0 weekend)

TexasAg1969

6th grade DB 101-tackle the player with your head up.

Nero

@mjp28 said:

NO SAINTS 24 MIN VIKINGS 23 Final........oooops last play MIN 29 NO 24

Geeezzzus H Christmas, nevermind. (saved my perfect 4-0 weekend)

What the hell was that. Last play was unbelievable!! Saints #43 will remember it his entire life.

Bob806

Is Dwayne Rudd the only player ever penalized for taking off a helmet? Saw at least 2 Vikings do it on that last play.

Wow 43. Hope his team mates don't destroy him.

Nero

@bob806 said:

Is Dwayne Rudd the only player ever penalized for taking off a helmet? Saw at least 2 Vikings do it on that last play.

Wow 43. Hope his team mates don't destroy him.

Dwayne Rudd did it when the ball STILL was in play. In the Vikings' TD they take the helmet off afterwards.

mjp28

@nero said:

Dwayne Rudd did it when the ball STILL was in play. In the Vikings' TD they take the helmet off afterwards.

Rudd also cost his team a win!

gumby73

@texasag1969 said:

6th grade DB 101-tackle the player with your head up.

That 6th grade DB Marcus Williams was high on my & Tour's draft board last season I'd still take him..1 bone headed rookie whiff......Football..the greatest game on the planet. Run by mind-less million-naries..Complete with mind-less coaching blunders...But the Athletes are awesome...Great Games..period (but them damn zebra's with camera )

hoorta

@mjp28 said:

Why do I have the feeling that it will NOT be MIN vs NE and maybe neither?

@stinkhole said:

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Give it a rest already you fossil. lol

AAFC titles, equivalent to the modern day Arena Bowl championships are not recognized by the NFL.

The operative number is 6, and the only thing that matters in todays football world are Super Bowls.

I bet even Browns fans grow weary of your "feel better about yourself because we actually have more Championships than the Steelers" rhetoric.

But if it works for you then by all means keep going with it.

@the-gipper said:

Speaking of fuyucking idiots. The operative number is 13....even though you are stupid of a fuyucking idiot to believe it.

Do they not count NBA titles before 1970? Do they not count World Series titles before 1970? Do they not count NHL titles before 1970? They count them all....and all those leagues have expanded as much as the NFL. The "Super Bowl" is merely an expansion of the playoffs due to the expansion of the teams in the league. Its just that the other teams didn't come up with some marketing gimmick for their versions of the expanded playoffs.

And the reason it works...is because it is the pure truth and fact of the matter.

The only titles that count are the last one and the next one...the rest are all just historical data.

If it makes you feel better Gip. When they start calling it "The World Bowl" Steeler fans are all out of luck.

@the-gipper said:

After last night the Pats do seem a prohibitive favorite.

I mean, could Brady be the GOAT? Even over Jim Brown and Jerry Rice?

But according to Ghoolie- Brady is washed up, done....

@mjp28 said:

NO SAINTS 24 MIN VIKINGS 23 Final........oooops last play MIN 29 NO 24

Geeezzzus H Christmas, nevermind. (saved my perfect 4-0 weekend)

They will still be talking about that last play 40 years from now, shades of The Immaculate Reception, the Music City Miracle.... What was the college Doug Flutie one where they ran through the band? HAS to be in the top 10 all time "Fantastic Finishes". Certainly last play of the game (considering the stakes involved)... I'll let you research that one Gip. Was with a group of 20 other pals and they all agreed, f'n unbelievable.