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Trent Dilfer says Rosen has "changed, grew for the better"

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  • Richiswhere RichiswhereR Reacting Well Dedicated Very Popular Posting Machine Collaborator First Post One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
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    RichiswhereR Richiswhere wrote on last edited by
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    ROFLMFAO Dilfer had a camp!?!?!?!?!?

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      Rosen just looks like one of these kids that just cannot bulk up .. I have doubts about his durability...

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        Rosen just looks like one of these kids that just cannot bulk up .. I have doubts about his durability...

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        IbleedbrownI Ibleedbrown wrote on last edited by
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        @nickers said:

        Rosen just looks like one of these kids that just cannot bulk up .. I have doubts about his durability...

        The Mingo effect?

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          The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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          Wait for the hate from Cal.

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            tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
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            Brady himself is the same height but only 10lbs heavier... what is this "bulking up" Sheet we're talking about?  

            Tom has it right, muscle pliability is a big deal for QB's and plays a more important role in absorbing hits.   

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              Wait for the hate from Cal.

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              @the-gipper said:

              Wait for the hate from Cal.

              no hate. got nothin. never did. just dumb opinions, a few here and there smarter than yours.😉

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                The “Rosen isn’t liked by his team” thread seems a little fishy to me. It’s always some shadowy, hush-hush, I know a guy who knows a guy who hates Rosen situation.  I’ve read a lot of ambiguous speculation about how everyone hates the guy, but it seems that sources willing to put their name on it don’t feel that way. Ive read two articles now that have featured named teammates saying that Rosen being disliked by the team is totally overblown by the media, and that they’re glad to “go to battle with him”.  Not saying the kid can’t be a prick, but does anyone believe Peyton Manning, Tom Brady or Aaron Rodgers can’t be a prick? 

                To me the concussions are a far larger red flag than any anything else. 

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                Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                @roycerolls said:

                ... Aaron Rodgers can’t be a prick? 

                Not sure about "prick", but I was just reading an article about how Rodgers was thought to be a little "strange" coming out of college and how that fed his fall in Round 1.

                As for the concussions... a concern for sure, but how much of one is a question for the medical staff. I don't think 2 (possibly 3?) in 2.5 seasons of play with intense focus on the subject is particularly alarming. However, if a medical review of the impacts that produced them find the blows should have been inconsequential for the average athlete, then you have to pass.

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                  @the-gipper said:

                  Wait for the hate from Cal.

                  no hate. got nothin. never did. just dumb opinions, a few here and there smarter than yours.😉

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                  The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by The Gipper
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                  @calfoxwc said:

                  no hate. got nothin. never did. just dumb opinions, a few here and there smarter than yours.😉

                  You only wish that were true.

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                    @roycerolls said:

                    ... Aaron Rodgers can’t be a prick? 

                    Not sure about "prick", but I was just reading an article about how Rodgers was thought to be a little "strange" coming out of college and how that fed his fall in Round 1.

                    As for the concussions... a concern for sure, but how much of one is a question for the medical staff. I don't think 2 (possibly 3?) in 2.5 seasons of play with intense focus on the subject is particularly alarming. However, if a medical review of the impacts that produced them find the blows should have been inconsequential for the average athlete, then you have to pass.

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                    @tour2ma said:

                    Not sure about "prick", but I was just reading an article about how Rodgers was thought to be a little "strange" coming out of college and how that fed his fall in Round 1.

                    As for the concussions... a concern for sure, but how much of one is a question for the medical staff. I don't think 2 (possibly 3?) in 2.5 seasons of play with intense focus on the subject is particularly alarming. However, if a medical review of the impacts that produced them find the blows should have been inconsequential for the average athlete, then you have to pass.

                    What I heard was Rodgers put people off because he challenged authority and was outspoken which seems eerily similar to a lot of the questions surrounding Rosen. Either way, most elite QBs can be difficult to deal with at times because they’re obsessive and ultra focused on winning instead of making people feel good. 

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                      Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                      Yup... of course if they do win, then they are certainly worth putting up with...

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                        Brady himself is the same height but only 10lbs heavier... what is this "bulking up" Sheet we're talking about?  

                        Tom has it right, muscle pliability is a big deal for QB's and plays a more important role in absorbing hits.   

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                        @tiamat63 said:

                        Brady himself is the same height but only 10lbs heavier... what is this "bulking up" Sheet we're talking about?  

                        Tom has it right, muscle pliability is a big deal for QB's and plays a more important role in absorbing hits.   

                        That stuff doesn't tell the whole story. Body composition matters. Brady is pretty stout. Rosen's a twig. Russell Wilson and some other QBs with his height and weight look totally different too.

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                          C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                          Remember "Twiggy" the model? now, compare... LOL

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                            So a 6'4 20 yr old with top S&C coaches and lifting programs won't be able to add about 10 lbs? 

                            Delusional thinking at best. 

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                              @tiamat63 said:

                              Brady himself is the same height but only 10lbs heavier... what is this "bulking up" Sheet we're talking about?  

                              Tom has it right, muscle pliability is a big deal for QB's and plays a more important role in absorbing hits.   

                              That stuff doesn't tell the whole story. Body composition matters. Brady is pretty stout. Rosen's a twig. Russell Wilson and some other QBs with his height and weight look totally different too.

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                              The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by The Gipper
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                              @wargograw said:

                              That stuff doesn't tell the whole story. Body composition matters. Brady is pretty stout. Rosen's a twig. Russell Wilson and some other QBs with his height and weight look totally different too.

                              Rosen is listed at 6'4 218.   Rodgers listed at 6'2  225.   Rosen may be a twig now....but he could easily get up to like 230 with some nutrition and weight training.   Brady is only 7 pounds heavier than Rosen is. 

                              Tom Brady is listed at 6/4  225.   

                              Winston   6/4  231

                              Matt Ryan  6/4 220

                              Mariota 6/4 222

                              Luck 6/4 234

                              Alex Smith 6/4 217

                              Sam Bradford 6/4  224

                              Kizer  6/4 233

                              Josh McCown 6/4 213

                              I don't see Rosen's weight being a major issue for him at all.    10-15 pounds should be no problem at all.

                              http://fftoday.com/rankings/playerrank.php?o=2&PosID=10&LeagueID=1&order_by=Rank&sort_order=ASC&cur_page=0

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                                @wargograw said:

                                That stuff doesn't tell the whole story. Body composition matters. Brady is pretty stout. Rosen's a twig. Russell Wilson and some other QBs with his height and weight look totally different too.

                                Rosen is listed at 6'4 218.   Rodgers listed at 6'2  225.   Rosen may be a twig now....but he could easily get up to like 230 with some nutrition and weight training.   Brady is only 7 pounds heavier than Rosen is. 

                                Tom Brady is listed at 6/4  225.   

                                Winston   6/4  231

                                Matt Ryan  6/4 220

                                Mariota 6/4 222

                                Luck 6/4 234

                                Alex Smith 6/4 217

                                Sam Bradford 6/4  224

                                Kizer  6/4 233

                                Josh McCown 6/4 213

                                I don't see Rosen's weight being a major issue for him at all.    10-15 pounds should be no problem at all.

                                http://fftoday.com/rankings/playerrank.php?o=2&PosID=10&LeagueID=1&order_by=Rank&sort_order=ASC&cur_page=0

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                                Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                                @the-gipper said:

                                Tom Brady is listed at 6/4  225.   

                                And that's today...

                                At his Combine Tom was lighter than Rosen.

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                                  @the-gipper said:

                                  Tom Brady is listed at 6/4  225.   

                                  And that's today...

                                  At his Combine Tom was lighter than Rosen.

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                                  The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                                  @tour2ma said:

                                  And that's today...

                                  At his Combine Tom was lighter than Rosen.

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                                  Is that 6' 4.3 "  211?   Do they measure them that specific down to tenths of an inch?

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                                    So a 6'4 20 yr old with top S&C coaches and lifting programs won't be able to add about 10 lbs? 

                                    Delusional thinking at best. 

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                                    @sd_tom said:

                                    So a 6'4 20 yr old with top S&C coaches and lifting programs won't be able to add about 10 lbs? 

                                    Delusional thinking at best. 

                                    It's about the frame. 

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                                      Not only has Rosen matured.... at his "worst", he NEVER was as bad as he's being made out to be.

                                      But hey, gossip is always more fun than reality - for people who don't want to bother thinking critically.

                                      The Truth About Rosen

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                                        @tour2ma said:

                                        And that's today...

                                        At his Combine Tom was lighter than Rosen.

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                                        Is that 6' 4.3 "  211?   Do they measure them that specific down to tenths of an inch?

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                                        Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                                        @the-gipper said:

                                        Is that 6' 4.3 "  211?   Do they measure them that specific down to tenths of an inch?

                                        What? Mixing of standard and metric systems? 😮 I believe the last digit represents eighths of an inch, but I am not positive about that.

                                        In any case you do have to admire the "whiteboard" technology employed back at the turn of the century...

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                                          Not only has Rosen matured.... at his "worst", he NEVER was as bad as he's being made out to be.

                                          But hey, gossip is always more fun than reality - for people who don't want to bother thinking critically.

                                          The Truth About Rosen

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                                          jrb12711J jrb12711 wrote on last edited by
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                                          @unsympathetic said:

                                          Not only has Rosen matured.... at his "worst", he NEVER was as bad as he's being made out to be.

                                          But hey, gossip is always more fun than reality - for people who don't want to bother thinking critically.

                                          The Truth About Rosen

                                          Trust me man, if you didn't see the other threads this was covered, at length that that all the personality claims are dubious at best. But people like Cal and stillmotion are just people who never listen to objective facts and live in their own little world.

                                          As long as Rosen clears medically, which I'll note is indeed an IF, he's clearly the best prospect in the draft. 

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