Camp Barkley #1 Overall
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Who is going to be the best player on the team if we draft Saquon?
Josh Gordon vs Saquon Barkley
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I bet Jags fans are happy their team didn't listen to the "Don't take a RB high in the 1st round, cause it's just a waste of a pick because you can find a good RB any time you want" stuff.
Fournette averaged 3.9 yards a rush.
Crowell, his cane with a red tip and guide dog averaged better than that.
Just what we needed to convince us about Barkley.... longer posts by PoG...
Fournette averaged 3.9 yards a rush.
More telling to my mind that on a team that features D and the running game, Fournette was 8th in the league in rushing.
Never said he was....... typical post from you.
Statements can be implied. You implied Fournette's value.
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This was a good read from that earlier link. Pretty humorous about the beetle and Bosa! That tickled~
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https://www.theringer.com/2017/9/29/16384752/saquon-barkley-penn-state-nittany-lions-highlights
"..."-Good news, Saquon: You have the ball! Bad news: You probably shouldn’t. In this 2015 clash with Ohio State, your team would rather not attempt to block Joey Bosa, who would go on to be the no. 3 overall pick in the 2016 NFL draft and win the Defensive Rookie of the Year award. So your coach has called an option in the hopes that your quarterback can eliminate Bosa from the play by making the right read. Unfortunately, he makes the wrong read and hands you the ball with Bosa looming 2 yards away. What are you to do?
There’s a bug called the Tiger Beetle, the second-fastest insect in the world. It runs so fast in comparison with its body size that it essentially goes blind while running; its bug brain is unable to interpret all the information its eyes capture. To see, it has to stop running every few seconds.
This is not a problem for Barkley, who jukes perhaps the best defender in college football and then hops over a 6-foot-3 defender about 1.5 seconds later. I’m glad Bosa managed to embark on a successful NFL career so soon after Barkley broke his ankles.
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That was some good stuff.
Hey, Kevin Hogan is a boss, I'm still riding with him.
The secret of getting ahead is getting started. The secret of getting started is breaking your complex overwhelming tasks into small manageable tasks, and then starting on the first one. -Mark Twain- "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -Mark Twain- -
I can't be the only person who gets this image in their head after reading a PoG post, right?
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This was a good read from that earlier link. Pretty humorous about the beetle and Bosa! That tickled~
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https://www.theringer.com/2017/9/29/16384752/saquon-barkley-penn-state-nittany-lions-highlights
"..."-Good news, Saquon: You have the ball! Bad news: You probably shouldn’t. In this 2015 clash with Ohio State, your team would rather not attempt to block Joey Bosa, who would go on to be the no. 3 overall pick in the 2016 NFL draft and win the Defensive Rookie of the Year award. So your coach has called an option in the hopes that your quarterback can eliminate Bosa from the play by making the right read. Unfortunately, he makes the wrong read and hands you the ball with Bosa looming 2 yards away. What are you to do?
There’s a bug called the Tiger Beetle, the second-fastest insect in the world. It runs so fast in comparison with its body size that it essentially goes blind while running; its bug brain is unable to interpret all the information its eyes capture. To see, it has to stop running every few seconds.
This is not a problem for Barkley, who jukes perhaps the best defender in college football and then hops over a 6-foot-3 defender about 1.5 seconds later. I’m glad Bosa managed to embark on a successful NFL career so soon after Barkley broke his ankles.
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That was some good stuff.
Hey, Kevin Hogan is a boss, I'm still riding with him.
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The only time I want to be any attention whatsoever to see Kwon Berkeley is if and when we draft him
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The only time I want to be any attention whatsoever to see Kwon Berkeley is if and when we draft him
The only time I want to be any attention whatsoever to see Kwon Berkeley is if and when we draft him
O come on now, everyone will have to stand at attention to him. He is going to be Jim Brown, Walter Payton, Emmitt Smith, and Marshall Faulk all rolled into one. But 10 times better. And if the Browns do draft him, he will make either Hogan or Mayfield into Brady, Rodgers, and Wentz all into one. And Josh Gordon, well he will be Rice, Moss, Fitzgerald, and Calvin Johnson. With Barkley, the Browns dont need anybody but those 3 players, he will make his own holes, make all 53 players miss, and then go outrun Bolt. 15 Super Bowls in a row.
And even though I am obviously joking, and only 1 person believes anywhere close to that, IF he becomes a Brown, I hope it happens
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Our discussion's over already?
How does a 65 yard TD run once a game help you when the rest of time you can't muster up a yard and a half?
I don't know what stat you are talking about here.
You're saying that if you take out the big plays he makes, then he's just as good as a player like Crowell? What about when he makes guys miss on 3rd down to move the chains? Or the receiving yards? Or the kickoff returns? Do you get extra points for 3rd downs or picking up blocks? What are the rules in this game you want to play? Which stat are you ultimately judging this player by? Are all runningbacks that you judge scrutinized by the same measure? What are a player like Adrian Peterson's numbers like in comparison to Barkley's numbers, with and then without whatever stat or numbers your using to rank these guys?
What I do is much simpler- I use my eyes and intuition to "see" what I can see. You can play or you can't play. I see Barkley as a special talent. If I was a captain and I'm picking teams, with my first pick I'm pointing at Barkley- I'm going to win if I get this guy. Have you ever went to a basketball park at night and played pick up games under the lights? You learn things. A stat is just an attempt to systematically describe what transpired. But we all know that games aren't played by the numbers, the numbers come after the act.
If we draft Barkley- who is the best playmaker on the team. Who are you giving the ball to on the first play? Who are you giving the ball to on the last play to win the game?
I don't know what stat you are talking about here.
You're saying that if you take out the big plays he makes, then he's just as good as a player like Crowell? What about when he makes guys miss on 3rd down to move the chains? Or the receiving yards? Or the kickoff returns? Do you get extra points for 3rd downs or picking up blocks? What are the rules in this game you want to play? Which stat are you ultimately judging this player by? Are all runningbacks that you judge scrutinized by the same measure? What are a player like Adrian Peterson's numbers like in comparison to Barkley's numbers, with and then without whatever stat or numbers your using to rank these guys?
What I do is much simpler- I use my eyes and intuition to "see" what I can see. You can play or you can't play. I see Barkley as a special talent. If I was a captain and I'm picking teams, with my first pick I'm pointing at Barkley- I'm going to win if I get this guy. Have you ever went to a basketball park at night and played pick up games under the lights? You learn things. A stat is just an attempt to systematically describe what transpired. But we all know that games aren't played by the numbers, the numbers come after the act.
If we draft Barkley- who is the best playmaker on the team. Who are you giving the ball to on the first play? Who are you giving the ball to on the last play to win the game?
No, he's worse than Crowell. Crowell could ball up SEC defenses on a consistent basis without relying on 85 yard runs for a respectable YPC (a YPC that was still 80th or whatever it was in the country for Barkley, mind you).
If Barkley is what you say he is as a RB, he won't be returning kicks, so yeah, we can throw that out.
We're judging him by his rushing stats. An honest, objective look at how they're going to translate to the NFL. IF you want to just concede that and say "well he's not the best pure running back BUT he is adequate there and can do so many other things, and therefore he's worthy of #1," then fine. We'd just then be arguing about whether a guy with THOSE skills is worthy of #1. At present, however, I'm arguing that he is not a particularly good pure runningback. That's the issue. That's what I'm discussing. I'd like you to focus on that and the fact that you seem to not want to indicates to me you don't have a good response.
And by the way I'm not dismissing the value of intensity or clutchness or any of the other intangibles you bring up. Those should, however, be reflected in his stats as a RB, and they simply are not. That's a problem.
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Agree with war on this one. ^^^^
Agree with war on this one. ^^^^
Yea, pretty much.
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Unreal, this kid. He's the closest thing to a Superman we're going to find. If anybody need one, it's Cleveland. Just watch the video and tell me that Coleman wouldn't thrive with this guy around. Coleman would go to a whole 'nother level. Saquon is a leader and I have to think that, as young as our team is, our guys will gravitate to him.
What would a Barkley/Mayfield locker room, with Gordon and everybody look like?... I mean, stats are just stats. Everybody is good, it's about when it's time to execute, who come in clutch. Games are so tough and closely matched, in most cases, it comes down to the team and who wants it more, who BELIEVES they are going to win. We have to get away from the Mercenary type of team that we've been. Players coming and leaving all the time, coaches coming and leaving, so on and so on. We have believe in each other. We need to grind this out and learn from it, let it burn so we can win next timer. What hurt is it to a player when loyalty is gone, but the pain is real for fans- when Kenny Britt is going to the Superbow. For guys like Joe Thomas, Josh Gordon and Joe Ha...damn. But for players like Kevin Hogan, Christian Kirksey it's gotta burn... this thing we're trying to build, it's built in the trenches- during the grind. But we will rise from this, to heights not yet seen, to heights not yet dreamed. The best is ahead of us. Belief, trust and love.
The secret of getting ahead is getting started. The secret of getting started is breaking your complex overwhelming tasks into small manageable tasks, and then starting on the first one. -Mark Twain- "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -Mark Twain- -
I can't be the only person who gets this image in their head after reading a PoG post, right?
I can't be the only person who gets this image in their head after reading a PoG post, right?
look in front yard..The Barkley Cinderella Stagecoach just pulled up
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I can't be the only person who gets this image in their head after reading a PoG post, right?
look in front yard..The Barkley Cinderella Stagecoach just pulled up
look in front yard..The Barkley Cinderella Stagecoach just pulled up
"Is this stagecoach beeper-friendly?"
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The video is 6 minutes long. You aren't doing your work, you've shown that you haven't.
The secret of getting ahead is getting started. The secret of getting started is breaking your complex overwhelming tasks into small manageable tasks, and then starting on the first one. -Mark Twain- "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -Mark Twain- -
How sweet would it be to draft a #1 Overall RB?
It's kind of cheating because we also have the #4- lol, but still!
Superstar.
It creates belief. It's what we need.
The secret of getting ahead is getting started. The secret of getting started is breaking your complex overwhelming tasks into small manageable tasks, and then starting on the first one. -Mark Twain- "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -Mark Twain- -
Unreal, this kid. He's the closest thing to a Superman we're going to find. If anybody need one, it's Cleveland. Just watch the video and tell me that Coleman wouldn't thrive with this guy around. Coleman would go to a whole 'nother level. Saquon is a leader and I have to think that, as young as our team is, our guys will gravitate to him.
What would a Barkley/Mayfield locker room, with Gordon and everybody look like?... I mean, stats are just stats. Everybody is good, it's about when it's time to execute, who come in clutch. Games are so tough and closely matched, in most cases, it comes down to the team and who wants it more, who BELIEVES they are going to win. We have to get away from the Mercenary type of team that we've been. Players coming and leaving all the time, coaches coming and leaving, so on and so on. We have believe in each other. We need to grind this out and learn from it, let it burn so we can win next timer. What hurt is it to a player when loyalty is gone, but the pain is real for fans- when Kenny Britt is going to the Superbow. For guys like Joe Thomas, Josh Gordon and Joe Ha...damn. But for players like Kevin Hogan, Christian Kirksey it's gotta burn... this thing we're trying to build, it's built in the trenches- during the grind. But we will rise from this, to heights not yet seen, to heights not yet dreamed. The best is ahead of us. Belief, trust and love.
Unreal, this kid. He's the closest thing to a Superman we're going to find. If anybody need one, it's Cleveland. Just watch the video and tell me that Coleman wouldn't thrive with this guy around. Coleman would go to a whole 'nother level. Saquon is a leader and I have to think that, as young as our team is, our guys will gravitate to him.
What would a Barkley/Mayfield locker room, with Gordon and everybody look like?... I mean, stats are just stats. Everybody is good, it's about when it's time to execute, who come in clutch. Games are so tough and closely matched, in most cases, it comes down to the team and who wants it more, who BELIEVES they are going to win. We have to get away from the Mercenary type of team that we've been. Players coming and leaving all the time, coaches coming and leaving, so on and so on. We have believe in each other. We need to grind this out and learn from it, let it burn so we can win next timer. What hurt is it to a player when loyalty is gone, but the pain is real for fans- when Kenny Britt is going to the Superbow. For guys like Joe Thomas, Josh Gordon and Joe Ha...damn. But for players like Kevin Hogan, Christian Kirksey it's gotta burn... this thing we're trying to build, it's built in the trenches- during the grind. But we will rise from this, to heights not yet seen, to heights not yet dreamed. The best is ahead of us. Belief, trust and love.
And what about your other hero Kevin Hogan if the Browns draft Baker?
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Would it be that bad if Hogan started the season while Baker learned from Hogan's experience? Hogan with Barkley, Gordon, Coleman and Njoku. They are gonna put up a lot of points if they get to work together and develop some chemistry.
The secret of getting ahead is getting started. The secret of getting started is breaking your complex overwhelming tasks into small manageable tasks, and then starting on the first one. -Mark Twain- "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -Mark Twain- -
Would it be that bad if Hogan started the season while Baker learned from Hogan's experience? Hogan with Barkley, Gordon, Coleman and Njoku. They are gonna put up a lot of points if they get to work together and develop some chemistry.
Would it be that bad if Hogan started the season while Baker learned from Hogan's experience? Hogan with Barkley, Gordon, Coleman and Njoku. They are gonna put up a lot of points if they get to work together and develop some chemistry.
Why would the Browns waste a first rounder on Baker Mayfield when you've told us, over and over, that Kevin Hogan is a future franchise QB?
If you are going to troll, at least stick to the script.
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I was hyped on Barkely early this season, but I've seen him disappear a lot.Maybe they were limiting his snaps or whatever, mybe PSU just wasn't that great.
Love and Penny were the most impressive backs I've seen this year. I've seen numerous games for both, and every time they had the ball they were a threat to score. their stats reflect that as well. Love may be a bit small, but damn he was awesome. He even got injured 3/4 thru the season, and he was still putting up close to 200 yds a game. Penny actually had 5 straight 200+ yd games including the bowl game, but he gets no love from anyone.
) You aren't doing your work
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