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  • @gumby73 said:

    imo, Dorsey can't wait to grade these scouts scorecards..Expect more scouts to go when work is final after combine

    Oh Boy! Get that group-think started early! 🥷

    @hoorta said:

    That's probably something that probably should be looked at Gipper. Rosen, Fitzpatrick, Barkley, and Darnold weren't eligible because they weren't "Seniors".

    Players who stick it out for four (or five) years deserve (and need) their own showcase. Love that Savage & Co. dig deep in Div's 2 and 3 for prospects to invite that otherwise would get no light cast upon them.

    Could start a "Junior Bowl" I guess. With 130 underclassmen certified by the NFL as draft eligible they ought to be able to field a couple teams.

    @tour2ma said:

    Oh Boy! Get that group-think started early! 🥷

    Players who stick it out for four (or five) years deserve (and need) their own showcase. Love that Savage & Co. dig deep in Div's 2 and 3 for prospects to invite that otherwise would get no light cast upon them.

    Could start a "Junior Bowl" I guess. With 130 underclassmen certified by the NFL as draft eligible they ought to be able to field a couple teams.

    Regarding Savage digging deep that OL guy from D III Humboldt definitely got some love... http://www.hsujacks.com/news/2017/11/27/football-alex-cappa-invited-to-2018-reeses-senior-bowl.aspx

    He was rag-dolling guys in his college tape...   

  • He ain't ragdolling Edge players this week. Definitely a "project" OT.

  • Nice tweet thread full of Rosen clips... highlights and lowlights from throughout the entire 2017 season. As you scroll past each one it plays once automatically.

    A few of them are Darnold clips for contrast.

    Don't know the poster, but he posted one interesting stat comparison with Darnold:

    " Rosen threw 8 of his 10 Ints when UCLA was losing. Darnold only threw 4 of his 13 Ints when USC was losing."

  • Nice tweet thread full of Rosen clips... highlights and lowlights from throughout the entire 2017 season. As you scroll past each one it plays once automatically.

    A few of them are Darnold clips for contrast.

    Don't know the poster, but he posted one interesting stat comparison with Darnold:

    " Rosen threw 8 of his 10 Ints when UCLA was losing. Darnold only threw 4 of his 13 Ints when USC was losing."

    @tour2ma said:

    Nice tweet thread full of Rosen clips... highlights and lowlights from throughout the entire 2017 season. As you scroll past each one it plays once automatically.

    A few of them are Darnold clips for contrast.

    Don't know the poster, but he posted one interesting stat comparison with Darnold:

    " Rosen threw 8 of his 10 Ints when UCLA was losing. Darnold only threw 4 of his 13 Ints when USC was losing."

    Interesting stat.   I'm sure a factor in this was usc wasn't losing that often during the season compared to UCLA.  they had a better team

  • @tour2ma said:

    Nice tweet thread full of Rosen clips... highlights and lowlights from throughout the entire 2017 season. As you scroll past each one it plays once automatically.

    A few of them are Darnold clips for contrast.

    Don't know the poster, but he posted one interesting stat comparison with Darnold:

    " Rosen threw 8 of his 10 Ints when UCLA was losing. Darnold only threw 4 of his 13 Ints when USC was losing."

    Interesting stat.   I'm sure a factor in this was usc wasn't losing that often during the season compared to UCLA.  they had a better team

    @sd_tom said:

    Interesting stat.   I'm sure a factor in this was usc wasn't losing that often during the season compared to UCLA.  they had a better team

    Point taken... more time with the lead means more opportunity to throw INTs with the lead, but...

    ... the point of care with the ball when in the lead vs. trailing is still valid and in light of the above is reinforced by the INT totals alone.

  • Can't wait for the combine and pro days to see how it starts sorting itself out. 

    Most felt Rosen looked better head to head when they played. 

  • Ditto... but Combine and Pro days are just confirmation tools for me.

    I know I'm just a rank amateur, but this is the clearest cut, on-field evaluation I have seen since Andrew Luck's class.

  • Ditto... but Combine and Pro days are just confirmation tools for me.

    I know I'm just a rank amateur, but this is the clearest cut, on-field evaluation I have seen since Andrew Luck's class.

    @tour2ma said:

    Ditto... but Combine and Pro days are just confirmation tools for me.

    I know I'm just a rank amateur, but this is the clearest cut, on-field evaluation I have seen since Andrew Luck's class.

    So you're a Rosen guy? 

  • I'm really impressed by that Ryan McCrystal analysis. I really hope our GM evaluates the same way. The browns are going to fall in love with one or two of these guys for sure. It's that time of year where every hot girl comes to the dance. 

  • I know I'm just a rank amateur, but this is the clearest cut, on-field evaluation I have seen since Andrew Luck's class.

    So you're a Rosen guy? 

  • @tour2ma said:

    Ditto... but Combine and Pro days are just confirmation tools for me.

    I know I'm just a rank amateur, but this is the clearest cut, on-field evaluation I have seen since Andrew Luck's class.

    So you're a Rosen guy? 

    @sd_tom said:

    So you're a Rosen guy? 

    Yup... have been since I first started seeing him... and then I looked.

    Since then every other candidate I've looked at has paled in comparison. It's actually made it hard to put in the work on some of them. But now that I'm trying to rank the also-rans, I'm having to force myself.

  • @sd_tom said:

    So you're a Rosen guy? 

    Yup... have been since I first started seeing him... and then I looked.

    Since then every other candidate I've looked at has paled in comparison. It's actually made it hard to put in the work on some of them. But now that I'm trying to rank the also-rans, I'm having to force myself.

    @tour2ma said:

    Yup... have been since I first started seeing him... and then I looked.

    Since then every other candidate I've looked at has paled in comparison. It's actually made it hard to put in the work on some of them. But now that I'm trying to rank the also-rans, I'm having to force myself.

    Pure talent Tour, I'd have Rosen at the top of my board too. Those concussions give me the heebie jeebies. Why I have him #3.   

  • @sd_tom said:

    So you're a Rosen guy? 

    Yup... have been since I first started seeing him... and then I looked.

    Since then every other candidate I've looked at has paled in comparison. It's actually made it hard to put in the work on some of them. But now that I'm trying to rank the also-rans, I'm having to force myself.

    @tour2ma said:

    Yup... have been since I first started seeing him... and then I looked.

    Since then every other candidate I've looked at has paled in comparison. It's actually made it hard to put in the work on some of them. But now that I'm trying to rank the also-rans, I'm having to force myself.

    Nice. The several games I've seen, he just looks like an NFL QB. Beautiful spirals in tight windows. Hits guys in stride.  Moves defenders with his eyes and shoulder fakes. And he can scramble. He had more dropped passes than the others by far. 

    Add in the fact that he's very smart, and he should be able to pick up the playbook fairly quickly. People that rag on him cuz he's from money....  Darnold's from San Juan Capistrano. Look at a damn map. It's a very nice section of Orange County, and I can assure you it's not the inner city slums of Cleveland or Detroit

  • @tour2ma said:

    Yup... have been since I first started seeing him... and then I looked.

    Since then every other candidate I've looked at has paled in comparison. It's actually made it hard to put in the work on some of them. But now that I'm trying to rank the also-rans, I'm having to force myself.

    Nice. The several games I've seen, he just looks like an NFL QB. Beautiful spirals in tight windows. Hits guys in stride.  Moves defenders with his eyes and shoulder fakes. And he can scramble. He had more dropped passes than the others by far. 

    Add in the fact that he's very smart, and he should be able to pick up the playbook fairly quickly. People that rag on him cuz he's from money....  Darnold's from San Juan Capistrano. Look at a damn map. It's a very nice section of Orange County, and I can assure you it's not the inner city slums of Cleveland or Detroit

    @sd_tom said:

    People that rag on him cuz he's from money.

    Yeah... and "hot tub"...

    I think a lot of folks have missed the $$$ cherry on top with Rosen. He said in an interview that he'd be willing to play for league minimum so the team could afford to pay other talent. I chuckled when I read that, but to any extent that he does not walk that back when the time comes will be gravy for any team he joins.

    One of the Pat's secrets for success (among many) has been that Brady has always restructured his deal for far less than his "fair-value" so they can afford other talent.

  • @tour2ma said:

    Yup... have been since I first started seeing him... and then I looked.

    Since then every other candidate I've looked at has paled in comparison. It's actually made it hard to put in the work on some of them. But now that I'm trying to rank the also-rans, I'm having to force myself.

    Nice. The several games I've seen, he just looks like an NFL QB. Beautiful spirals in tight windows. Hits guys in stride.  Moves defenders with his eyes and shoulder fakes. And he can scramble. He had more dropped passes than the others by far. 

    Add in the fact that he's very smart, and he should be able to pick up the playbook fairly quickly. People that rag on him cuz he's from money....  Darnold's from San Juan Capistrano. Look at a damn map. It's a very nice section of Orange County, and I can assure you it's not the inner city slums of Cleveland or Detroit

    @sd_tom said:

    Nice. The several games I've seen, he just looks like an NFL QB. Beautiful spirals in tight windows. Hits guys in stride.  Moves defenders with his eyes and shoulder fakes. And he can scramble. He had more dropped passes than the others by far. 

    Add in the fact that he's very smart, and he should be able to pick up the playbook fairly quickly. People that rag on him cuz he's from money....  Darnold's from San Juan Capistrano. Look at a damn map. It's a very nice section of Orange County, and I can assure you it's not the inner city slums of Cleveland or Detroit

    I stayed a week in Capistrano BeachI stayed a week in Capistrano Beach

  • God, I love Rosen...

    Jesse Fritsch‏ @CalhounLambeau

    Rosen on his love for football: "I quit a sport because I didn't love it. Why would I go to another sport I don't like? I love football. I love putting massive, obnoxiously large state rings on my finger."

    8:08 AM - 28 Jan 2018
  • @sd_tom said:

    So you're a Rosen guy? 

    Yup... have been since I first started seeing him... and then I looked.

    Since then every other candidate I've looked at has paled in comparison. It's actually made it hard to put in the work on some of them. But now that I'm trying to rank the also-rans, I'm having to force myself.

    @tour2ma said:

    Yup... have been since I first started seeing him... and then I looked.

    Since then every other candidate I've looked at has paled in comparison. It's actually made it hard to put in the work on some of them. But now that I'm trying to rank the also-rans, I'm having to force myself.

    So when Rosen doesn't want to play for Browns, or turns in to Ryan Leaf? I wouldn't even consider him if I'm Cleaveland. 

  • @tour2ma said:

    Yup... have been since I first started seeing him... and then I looked.

    Since then every other candidate I've looked at has paled in comparison. It's actually made it hard to put in the work on some of them. But now that I'm trying to rank the also-rans, I'm having to force myself.

    So when Rosen doesn't want to play for Browns, or turns in to Ryan Leaf? I wouldn't even consider him if I'm Cleaveland. 

    @ghoolie1fan said:

    I wouldn't even consider him if I'm Cleaveland. 

    Given the judgement your screen name reveals... I am not surprised.

    Cleaveland.... Home of the Cleavers...

  • @ghoolie1fan said:

    I wouldn't even consider him if I'm Cleaveland. 

    Given the judgement your screen name reveals... I am not surprised.

    Cleaveland.... Home of the Cleavers...

    @tour2ma said:

    Given the judgement your screen name reveals... I am not surprised.

    Cleaveland.... Home of the Cleavers...

    Mayfield, actually.  A suburb.

  • Gil Brandt chimes in... not a bad endorsement.

    Gil Brandt‏Verified account @Gil_Brandt

    Talked w/ @josh3rosen this morning. Told me he wished it had rained during his @UCLAFootball pro day so he could show teams he could wing it in all elements. He did have plenty of wind to contend with and looked terrific both rolling out and in pocket. Best passer in this draft.