Rosen
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Nice tweet thread full of Rosen clips... highlights and lowlights from throughout the entire 2017 season. As you scroll past each one it plays once automatically.
A few of them are Darnold clips for contrast.
Don't know the poster, but he posted one interesting stat comparison with Darnold:
" Rosen threw 8 of his 10 Ints when UCLA was losing. Darnold only threw 4 of his 13 Ints when USC was losing."
Nice tweet thread full of Rosen clips... highlights and lowlights from throughout the entire 2017 season. As you scroll past each one it plays once automatically.
A few of them are Darnold clips for contrast.
Don't know the poster, but he posted one interesting stat comparison with Darnold:
" Rosen threw 8 of his 10 Ints when UCLA was losing. Darnold only threw 4 of his 13 Ints when USC was losing."
Interesting stat. I'm sure a factor in this was usc wasn't losing that often during the season compared to UCLA. they had a better team
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Nice tweet thread full of Rosen clips... highlights and lowlights from throughout the entire 2017 season. As you scroll past each one it plays once automatically.
A few of them are Darnold clips for contrast.
Don't know the poster, but he posted one interesting stat comparison with Darnold:
" Rosen threw 8 of his 10 Ints when UCLA was losing. Darnold only threw 4 of his 13 Ints when USC was losing."
Interesting stat. I'm sure a factor in this was usc wasn't losing that often during the season compared to UCLA. they had a better team
Interesting stat. I'm sure a factor in this was usc wasn't losing that often during the season compared to UCLA. they had a better team
Point taken... more time with the lead means more opportunity to throw INTs with the lead, but...
... the point of care with the ball when in the lead vs. trailing is still valid and in light of the above is reinforced by the INT totals alone.
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Ditto... but Combine and Pro days are just confirmation tools for me.
I know I'm just a rank amateur, but this is the clearest cut, on-field evaluation I have seen since Andrew Luck's class.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Ditto... but Combine and Pro days are just confirmation tools for me.
I know I'm just a rank amateur, but this is the clearest cut, on-field evaluation I have seen since Andrew Luck's class.
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I'm really impressed by that Ryan McCrystal analysis. I really hope our GM evaluates the same way. The browns are going to fall in love with one or two of these guys for sure. It's that time of year where every hot girl comes to the dance.
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I know I'm just a rank amateur, but this is the clearest cut, on-field evaluation I have seen since Andrew Luck's class.
So you're a Rosen guy?
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So you're a Rosen guy?
Yup... have been since I first started seeing him... and then I looked.
Since then every other candidate I've looked at has paled in comparison. It's actually made it hard to put in the work on some of them. But now that I'm trying to rank the also-rans, I'm having to force myself.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
So you're a Rosen guy?
Yup... have been since I first started seeing him... and then I looked.
Since then every other candidate I've looked at has paled in comparison. It's actually made it hard to put in the work on some of them. But now that I'm trying to rank the also-rans, I'm having to force myself.
Yup... have been since I first started seeing him... and then I looked.
Since then every other candidate I've looked at has paled in comparison. It's actually made it hard to put in the work on some of them. But now that I'm trying to rank the also-rans, I'm having to force myself.
Pure talent Tour, I'd have Rosen at the top of my board too. Those concussions give me the heebie jeebies. Why I have him #3.
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So you're a Rosen guy?
Yup... have been since I first started seeing him... and then I looked.
Since then every other candidate I've looked at has paled in comparison. It's actually made it hard to put in the work on some of them. But now that I'm trying to rank the also-rans, I'm having to force myself.
Yup... have been since I first started seeing him... and then I looked.
Since then every other candidate I've looked at has paled in comparison. It's actually made it hard to put in the work on some of them. But now that I'm trying to rank the also-rans, I'm having to force myself.
Nice. The several games I've seen, he just looks like an NFL QB. Beautiful spirals in tight windows. Hits guys in stride. Moves defenders with his eyes and shoulder fakes. And he can scramble. He had more dropped passes than the others by far.
Add in the fact that he's very smart, and he should be able to pick up the playbook fairly quickly. People that rag on him cuz he's from money.... Darnold's from San Juan Capistrano. Look at a damn map. It's a very nice section of Orange County, and I can assure you it's not the inner city slums of Cleveland or Detroit
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Yup... have been since I first started seeing him... and then I looked.
Since then every other candidate I've looked at has paled in comparison. It's actually made it hard to put in the work on some of them. But now that I'm trying to rank the also-rans, I'm having to force myself.
Nice. The several games I've seen, he just looks like an NFL QB. Beautiful spirals in tight windows. Hits guys in stride. Moves defenders with his eyes and shoulder fakes. And he can scramble. He had more dropped passes than the others by far.
Add in the fact that he's very smart, and he should be able to pick up the playbook fairly quickly. People that rag on him cuz he's from money.... Darnold's from San Juan Capistrano. Look at a damn map. It's a very nice section of Orange County, and I can assure you it's not the inner city slums of Cleveland or Detroit
People that rag on him cuz he's from money.
Yeah... and "hot tub"...
I think a lot of folks have missed the $$$ cherry on top with Rosen. He said in an interview that he'd be willing to play for league minimum so the team could afford to pay other talent. I chuckled when I read that, but to any extent that he does not walk that back when the time comes will be gravy for any team he joins.
One of the Pat's secrets for success (among many) has been that Brady has always restructured his deal for far less than his "fair-value" so they can afford other talent.
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Yup... have been since I first started seeing him... and then I looked.
Since then every other candidate I've looked at has paled in comparison. It's actually made it hard to put in the work on some of them. But now that I'm trying to rank the also-rans, I'm having to force myself.
Nice. The several games I've seen, he just looks like an NFL QB. Beautiful spirals in tight windows. Hits guys in stride. Moves defenders with his eyes and shoulder fakes. And he can scramble. He had more dropped passes than the others by far.
Add in the fact that he's very smart, and he should be able to pick up the playbook fairly quickly. People that rag on him cuz he's from money.... Darnold's from San Juan Capistrano. Look at a damn map. It's a very nice section of Orange County, and I can assure you it's not the inner city slums of Cleveland or Detroit
Nice. The several games I've seen, he just looks like an NFL QB. Beautiful spirals in tight windows. Hits guys in stride. Moves defenders with his eyes and shoulder fakes. And he can scramble. He had more dropped passes than the others by far.
Add in the fact that he's very smart, and he should be able to pick up the playbook fairly quickly. People that rag on him cuz he's from money.... Darnold's from San Juan Capistrano. Look at a damn map. It's a very nice section of Orange County, and I can assure you it's not the inner city slums of Cleveland or Detroit
I stayed a week in Capistrano BeachI stayed a week in Capistrano Beach
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God, I love Rosen...
Jesse Fritsch @CalhounLambeau
Rosen on his love for football: "I quit a sport because I didn't love it. Why would I go to another sport I don't like? I love football. I love putting massive, obnoxiously large state rings on my finger."
8:08 AM - 28 Jan 2018 -
So you're a Rosen guy?
Yup... have been since I first started seeing him... and then I looked.
Since then every other candidate I've looked at has paled in comparison. It's actually made it hard to put in the work on some of them. But now that I'm trying to rank the also-rans, I'm having to force myself.
Yup... have been since I first started seeing him... and then I looked.
Since then every other candidate I've looked at has paled in comparison. It's actually made it hard to put in the work on some of them. But now that I'm trying to rank the also-rans, I'm having to force myself.
So when Rosen doesn't want to play for Browns, or turns in to Ryan Leaf? I wouldn't even consider him if I'm Cleaveland.
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Yup... have been since I first started seeing him... and then I looked.
Since then every other candidate I've looked at has paled in comparison. It's actually made it hard to put in the work on some of them. But now that I'm trying to rank the also-rans, I'm having to force myself.
So when Rosen doesn't want to play for Browns, or turns in to Ryan Leaf? I wouldn't even consider him if I'm Cleaveland.
I wouldn't even consider him if I'm Cleaveland.
Given the judgement your screen name reveals... I am not surprised.
Cleaveland.... Home of the Cleavers...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
I wouldn't even consider him if I'm Cleaveland.
Given the judgement your screen name reveals... I am not surprised.
Cleaveland.... Home of the Cleavers...
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Gil Brandt chimes in... not a bad endorsement.
Gil BrandtVerified account @Gil_Brandt
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@josh3rosen this morning. Told me he wished it had rained during his@UCLAFootball pro day so he could show teams he could wing it in all elements. He did have plenty of wind to contend with and looked terrific both rolling out and in pocket. Best passer in this draft."When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Also newly posted... Highlights and link to full post below. If you visit site be sure to note the tabs for the Bucky's books on Darnold, Mayfield and Barkley.
Apparently Mr. Brooks is saving the best QB for last... 🥷
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Book on Josh Rosen: Jets, Giants fit draft's most pro-ready QB
By Bucky Brooks NFL.com Analyst Published: March 15, 2018 at 09:35 a.m. Updated: March 15, 2018 at 09:48 a.m.
What I'm seeing
Rosen is the most polished quarterback prospect I've scouted since Andrew Luck entered the league in 2012. In fact, Rosen is so polished as a passer that I would dub him "The Natural" based on his beautiful delivery and flawless footwork in the pocket. Rosen has impressive arm talent and is one of the few quarterback prospects with a full array of MLB pitches at his disposal. The UCLA star can throw with touch, timing, and anticipation or deliver laser-like shots on drive throws to the boundary from the pocket. In addition, he shows a feathery touch on up-and-over throws at intermediate range between the hashes.
As a pure pocket passer with a high football IQ, Rosen is the prototypical franchise quarterback that NFL coaches, scouts, and executives covet. Measuring 6-foot-4 and 226 pounds, Rosen has better-than-advertised movement skills in the pocket. The former junior tennis champion slips and slides around the pocket while keeping his eyes downfield to deal to open receivers. Rosen's subtle movement around the pocket is reminiscent of a 10-year veteran, which is why he's viewed as a plug-and-play prospect by some evaluators.
I can't complete a report on Rosen without mentioning the concerns some evaluators have about his football character and love of the game based on his outspoken nature and affluent background. Although I'm not concerned about those things, there is a faction of evaluators who question Rosen's commitment to the game based on his worldly perspective.
In the end, I think it's silly that anyone would be concerned about those things, but Rosen must address them in his meetings with teams leading up the draft to change the narrative regarding his personality and commitment.
Overall, Rosen is about as complete as they come at the position with a polished game that is ripped straight from an instructional video on how to play the position. He can make throws to every area of the field with pinpoint accuracy and precision. Although there are some questions about his intangibles and commitment level from some scouts around the league, there's no disputing his talent, game or potential.
Where he should be picked
As an elite prospect with the physical tools and mental aptitude to control the game as a QB1, Rosen should be one of the first quarterbacks selected in the 2018 draft. He's the most pro-ready quarterback prospect in the class and has the potential to be a perennial Pro Bowl-caliber player early in his career. Granted, he needs to be surrounded by the right supporting cast (pass-catchers and offensive line), but he is a scheme-friendly thrower with experience playing the game like NFL quarterbacks have been asked to perform for the past 30 years.
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http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2018/02/is_ucla_qb_josh_rosen_tumbling_mel_kiper_explains.html
Is UCLA QB Josh Rosen tumbling in NFL Draft? Mel Kiper explains slide out of Giants, Jets picks
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http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2018/02/is_ucla_qb_josh_rosen_tumbling_mel_kiper_explains.html
Is UCLA QB Josh Rosen tumbling in NFL Draft? Mel Kiper explains slide out of Giants, Jets picks
http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2018/02/is_ucla_qb_josh_rosen_tumbling_mel_kiper_explains.html
Is UCLA QB Josh Rosen tumbling in NFL Draft? Mel Kiper explains slide out of Giants, Jets picks
If he was tumbling....then the Jets would not have traded up to possibly take him.
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