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  • @tour2ma said:

    Kinda seeing this already...

    On @Browns_Daily right now @AllbrightNFL said that “Alex Smith chose Washington due to the long term deal that the Skins were offering.” Added Browns offered multiple picks but wanted him for short term deal and Denver offered a 2nd and Aqib Talib!
     
    Pressed in follow ups Zegura posted:
    ... wanted to do right by a vet who had done right by the org and they LOVED Fuller.
     

    So....it was a package deal....and clearly the Chiefs wanted a DB in return if they were also talking Talib. I mean...unless we offered Peppers...who could the Browns have included that would have been satisfactory?

    Also...why would the Chiefs be wanting to deal a decent QB to their in division rival....Denver?

    @the-gipper said:

    So....it was a package deal....and clearly the Chiefs wanted a DB in return if they were also talking Talib. I mean...unless we offered Peppers...who could the Browns have included that would have been satisfactory?

    Also...why would the Chiefs be wanting to deal a decent QB to their in division rival....Denver?

    Chiefs weren't so they didn't.... Also Talib would put KC back into Cap issues.

    Your use of the term "package deal" is quite nebulous.

  • @browns1216 said:

    I think Kirk is after a ring, highly unlikely he'll come to the Browns unless they drastically overpay him and I don't think DePo will let that happen.  AJ McCarron is more realistic given how Hue and Haslam were chatting him up after the Bengals game and the botched trade deal where they actually tried to get him here. have to see what the results of the hearing are.  I wouldn't mind keeping things as Kizer, rookie + let Hogan and Kessler battle it out for QB3 but don't see it happening, Hue has mentioned getting a vet QB multiple times now and I think he has his sights set on AJ. let's hope they don't have to use any draft picks to get him.

    Does anyone think that  McCarron is a serious major upgrade from  Kizer, Kessler, and Hogan.   Honestly...that is not a situation I can wrap my head around.  Now....his hot wife?   Hot bod.....but is it me...or do some of the rest of you think her looks make her like a bit of horseflesh?

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    And if we do go with McCarron.....we will have the QB with the ugliest tats in the league.  WTF is up with those?

    @the-gipper said:

    Does anyone think that  McCarron is a serious major upgrade from  Kizer, Kessler, and Hogan.   Honestly...that is not a situation I can wrap my head around.  Now....his hot wife?   Hot bod.....but is it me...or do some of the rest of you think her looks make her like a bit of horseflesh?

    2A377EBF00000578-3149143-image-a-25_1435

    And if we do go with McCarron.....we will have the QB with the ugliest tats in the league.  WTF is up with those?

    Who on earth is looking at him?

    sweet jeebus

  • @the-gipper said:

    So....it was a package deal....and clearly the Chiefs wanted a DB in return if they were also talking Talib. I mean...unless we offered Peppers...who could the Browns have included that would have been satisfactory?

    Also...why would the Chiefs be wanting to deal a decent QB to their in division rival....Denver?

    Chiefs weren't so they didn't.... Also Talib would put KC back into Cap issues.

    Your use of the term "package deal" is quite nebulous.

    @tour2ma said:

    Chiefs weren't so they didn't.... Also Talib would put KC back into Cap issues.

    Your use of the term "package deal" is quite nebulous.

    Nebulous....but actual and factual....per your own report.  So give yourself credit for it.

  • @the-gipper said:

    Does anyone think that  McCarron is a serious major upgrade from  Kizer, Kessler, and Hogan.   Honestly...that is not a situation I can wrap my head around.  Now....his hot wife?   Hot bod.....but is it me...or do some of the rest of you think her looks make her like a bit of horseflesh?

    2A377EBF00000578-3149143-image-a-25_1435

    And if we do go with McCarron.....we will have the QB with the ugliest tats in the league.  WTF is up with those?

    Who on earth is looking at him?

    sweet jeebus

    @sd_tom said:

    Who on earth is looking at him?

    sweet jeebus

    Peripheral vision.

  • Let's hear it for our new GM!!! 😉

    @orion said:

    We really have only the draft option.......and/or a Josh McCown type.

    If Cousins goes to the Jets, then we could just see the return of McC...

    @pat-mahomo said:

    I'm not going to dispute that the Browns offered "more" but was it really better? From our (KC) point of view, what we got was a 3rd and something better than a 1st wich is a CB that we need...

    One last thought.  Given the skins are at 13 in round 1 so they are on the outside looking in at this QB class, but it points to the fact the Redskins have seen enough to think they aren't interested participating in trying to get one of those guys up top.  Just a thought.

    Add that WSH was burned badly not too long ago moving up to take a QB.

    Agree that in the end WSH put together a better package than we were obviously willing to do.

    @the-gipper said:

    4 years and something like 70 million guraranteed.  That took the Browns out as they were just wanting a bridge guy...not a hugely paid long term guy.

    Took us "out"? Do you think KC gave Smith a say in which deal they'd accept?

    @tour2ma said:

    Let's hear it for our new GM!!! 😉

    If Cousins goes to the Jets, then we could just see the return of McC...

    Add that WSH was burned badly not too long ago moving up to take a QB.

    Agree that in the end WSH put together a better package than we were obviously willing to do.

    Took us "out"? Do you think KC gave Smith a say in which deal they'd accept?

    to long of a deal for a bridge qb also I believe he regress's in Washington no where near the talent he had in K.C

  • Certainly seems to look at the impact of the trade from every angle.

  • sydS syd

    @tour2ma said:

    Let's hear it for our new GM!!! 😉

    If Cousins goes to the Jets, then we could just see the return of McC...

    Add that WSH was burned badly not too long ago moving up to take a QB.

    Agree that in the end WSH put together a better package than we were obviously willing to do.

    Took us "out"? Do you think KC gave Smith a say in which deal they'd accept?

    to long of a deal for a bridge qb also I believe he regress's in Washington no where near the talent he had in K.C

    @syd said:

    to long of a deal for a bridge qb also I believe he regress's in Washington no where near the talent he had in K.C

    When healthy WSH's talent on the O-side is pretty damn good.

    As for the length of the deal... that's TBD. Could be that it's effectively a 2-year deal... and that would have been just fine.

  • i believe it was reported for the next 5 years I mean he got 71 million guaranteed that would a helluva lot of money for 2 years

  • didnt see that coming for sure

    @beare said:

    didnt see that coming for sure

    LMAO. ROTFLMAO.........

    "'DIDN'T SEE THAT COMING" .....Classic....fukcing classic.

    This franchise speacializes in wasting first round picks, getting beat to the punch in FA.....but but but......we are building for the fukcking FUTURE.........We are amassing assets.....ASSETS I TELL YOU.......AAAAAAASSSSSSETTTTTS.

  • @tour2ma said:

    I half expect word to leak out that the KC brass simply couldn't bring themselves to deal Smith to the Browns.

    Kinda seeing this already...

    On @Browns_Daily right now @AllbrightNFL said that “Alex Smith chose Washington due to the long term deal that the Skins were offering.” Added Browns offered multiple picks but wanted him for short term deal and Denver offered a 2nd and Aqib Talib!
     
    Pressed in follow ups Zegura posted:
    ... wanted to do right by a vet who had done right by the org and they LOVED Fuller.
     

    @tour2ma said:

    Kinda seeing this already...

    On @Browns_Daily right now @AllbrightNFL said that “Alex Smith chose Washington due to the long term deal that the Skins were offering.” Added Browns offered multiple picks but wanted him for short term deal and Denver offered a 2nd and Aqib Talib!
     
    Pressed in follow ups Zegura posted:
    ... wanted to do right by a vet who had done right by the org and they LOVED Fuller.
     

    I REALLY hope the reason we didn't get Alex Smith was because we wouldn't commit to a long-term deal. That would send me over the edge. QBs that take care of their bodies and play smartly can definitely play later on into their late 30's. What's Alex...34 or 35? Don't get it, I really don't. 

    I believe (like so many others here) that the plan now has AJ McCarron in it, but he's a WAY bigger unknown to me than the other guys. Heck, I didn't even think he compared to Garoppolo, let alone Alex Smith and Kirk Cousins. I've also heard that Dorsey likes a little guy named Chase Daniels....someone ELSE who hasn't done much of anything. The thought of having another rookie start for us out of the gates is completely mind-numbing. Regardless if he's chosen #1 or #52, but the rest of the presumed FA QBs aren't doing much for me either. Ugh... 

  • sydS syd

    i believe it was reported for the next 5 years I mean he got 71 million guaranteed that would a helluva lot of money for 2 years

    @syd said:

    i believe it was reported for the next 5 years I mean he got 71 million guaranteed that would a helluva lot of money for 2 years

    "Guaranteed" does not mean "fully guaranteed" in the NFL.

    We don't have specifics on the deal yet, but the former first overall pick is in line to reportedly take home $94 million, with $71 million in guarantees, though the deal can't become official until after the new league year begins on March 14. The word "guarantees" doesn't mean anything unless it's prefaced by "fully" or followed by "at signing," so take that number with a grain of salt.

    http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/22271779/winners-losers-alex-smith-trade-kansas-city-chiefs-washington-redskins-2018-nfl-offseason

  • Cousins is ours, Motherfuckers.

    2018 AFC North Champion Cleveland Browns.

    Z

    Zombo said:

    Cousins is ours, MotherShmuckers.

    2018 AFC North Champion Cleveland Browns.

    Z

    Dude......I would expect.you to be punch drunk and drooling idiotic ramblings AFTER I pummled your melon....but Cousins in Cleveland? John, you really need to stop drinking for a bit.

    This franchise is a LOSER.....on the field and off. For 19 years they have not particopated in acquiring the top playmakers. They are not going to start.now.

  • as i said the only way forward is through the draft we are kinda like the Trail Blazers of the nfl big time players don't wont to come here

  • The current state of the tear down and rebuild........ 

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  • The current state of the tear down and rebuild........ 

    Current State of the Browns.jpg

    @d-bone said:

    The current state of the tear down and rebuild........ 

    Current State of the Browns.jpg

    Is the foundation sound?

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  • @d-bone said:

    The current state of the tear down and rebuild........ 

    Current State of the Browns.jpg

    Is the foundation sound?

    MV5BMTI4OTg2NTEwOF5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTYwNTgyNTQ2._V1_.jpg

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    Is the foundation sound?

    Built right smack in the middle of a bog...... but The Process's architects say the untreated balsa wood supports are financially responsible and the basis for a strong, viable future.  

  • Zombo said:

    Cousins is ours, MotherShmuckers.

    2018 AFC North Champion Cleveland Browns.

    Z

    Dude......I would expect.you to be punch drunk and drooling idiotic ramblings AFTER I pummled your melon....but Cousins in Cleveland? John, you really need to stop drinking for a bit.

    This franchise is a LOSER.....on the field and off. For 19 years they have not particopated in acquiring the top playmakers. They are not going to start.now.

    @ghoolie said:

    Dude......I would expect.you to be punch drunk and drooling idiotic ramblings AFTER I pummled your melon....but Cousins in Cleveland? John, you really need to stop drinking for a bit.

    This franchise is a LOSER.....on the field and off. For 19 years they have not particopated in acquiring the top playmakers. They are not going to start.now.

    How are you going to "pummel my melon" if you don't show, you faggot-ass pussy?

    Z

  • sydS syd

    as i said the only way forward is through the draft we are kinda like the Trail Blazers of the nfl big time players don't wont to come here

    @syd said:

    as i said the only way forward is through the draft we are kinda like the Trail Blazers of the nfl big time players don't wont to come here

    Syd.....do you not think that the better college players also don't want to come here? How fukcking stupid do you jave to be to draft a guy who made a video begging not to come? UN BELIEVABLE

  • thing is collage players really do not have a choice free agents do