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  • @tour2ma said:

    Reports are now flying that Cousins to Denver is close to a done deal...

    How? Given the start of the league year is still over a month away... I have no idea.

    One other interesting tidbit... in addition to us, NYJ, and DNV pursuing Cousins... The Vikings were mentioned. Had not seen them mentioned before, but why not? They don't have a QB signed to their roster.

    Similar to the Smith deal....all done but the signing on the date they can.  And I had heard about the Vikings potential interest on Golic/Wingo.

    @the-gipper said:

    Similar to the Smith deal....all done but the signing on the date they can.  And I had heard about the Vikings potential interest on Golic/Wingo.

    I believe all 3 of the Vikings qb's are free agents this year maybe we can choose from their left overs ?

  • Reports are now flying that Cousins to Denver is close to a done deal...

    How? Given the start of the league year is still over a month away... I have no idea.

    One other interesting tidbit... in addition to us, NYJ, and DNV pursuing Cousins... The Vikings were mentioned. Had not seen them mentioned before, but why not? They don't have a QB signed to their roster.

    @tour2ma said:

    Reports are now flying that Cousins to Denver is close to a done deal...

    How? Given the start of the league year is still over a month away... I have no idea.

    seems that The Senior Bowl week now jumps deals even before combine..last night am watching the state of the Union.seemed like Trump fired the national anthem at Roger..than within 5 minutes after.. reports of Smith to DC fired right back at Trump..me thinks, the timing had a idea

  • @tour2ma said:

    Reports are now flying that Cousins to Denver is close to a done deal...

    How? Given the start of the league year is still over a month away... I have no idea.

    One other interesting tidbit... in addition to us, NYJ, and DNV pursuing Cousins... The Vikings were mentioned. Had not seen them mentioned before, but why not? They don't have a QB signed to their roster.

    Similar to the Smith deal....all done but the signing on the date they can.  And I had heard about the Vikings potential interest on Golic/Wingo.

    @the-gipper said:

    Similar to the Smith deal....all done but the signing on the date they can.

    Except the league year is not over so as of now Cousins is still a WSH employee and any talking to him is considered "illegal tampering" under league rules. There is a "legal tampering" period a day or so before the official start of the league year... and there's a more relaxed view of "conversations" with agents as that day approaches, but this is way outside that timing.

    So it can't be "similar".

    Thinking more on it... either WSH has filed paperwork to release Cousins or they've given permission to teams to talk to their employee.

  • @the-gipper said:

    Similar to the Smith deal....all done but the signing on the date they can.

    Except the league year is not over so as of now Cousins is still a WSH employee and any talking to him is considered "illegal tampering" under league rules. There is a "legal tampering" period a day or so before the official start of the league year... and there's a more relaxed view of "conversations" with agents as that day approaches, but this is way outside that timing.

    So it can't be "similar".

    Thinking more on it... either WSH has filed paperwork to release Cousins or they've given permission to teams to talk to their employee.

    @tour2ma said:

    Except the league year is not over so as of now Cousins is still a WSH employee and any talking to him is considered "illegal tampering" under league rules. There is a "legal tampering" period a day or so before the official start of the league year... and there's a more relaxed view of "conversations" with agents as that day approaches, but this is way outside that timing.

    So it can't be "similar".

    Thinking more on it... either WSH has filed paperwork to release Cousins or they've given permission to teams to talk to their employee.

    a team could still trade for him so why can't it be similar 

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    @the-gipper said:

    Similar to the Smith deal....all done but the signing on the date they can.  And I had heard about the Vikings potential interest on Golic/Wingo.

    I believe all 3 of the Vikings qb's are free agents this year maybe we can choose from their left overs ?

    YAWN.

    @syd said:

    I believe all 3 of the Vikings qb's are free agents this year maybe we can choose from their left overs ?

    Idiot fukcking Browns fans going through more mental masturbation....inventing Browns football moves that have abso-Shmucking-lutely no chance of even being considered.....let alone happening.

    Seriously, don't you jackoffs get tired pf dping this same.schidt year after year after year?

    Is reality that fukcing hard for you to accept?

    NOBODY OF ANY TALENT WANTS TO COME TO SCHIDTHOLE cleveland.

    Myels Garrett made goddamned video offering fellatio to Jerry Jones to rescue him. A top rated college qb threatened to stay on college rather than come.to schidt hole-land.

    Meanwhile.  You jackoffs believe Cleveland is a mover-shaker.......top franchise.

    Do you hear players objecting to any other city?

    But hey..........go ahead.....pretend that Cleveland  is a really.cool place. EVERYONE wants to play on Cleveland. LMAO.

    I imagine this is why.the Browns continue to draft.schidt like Garrett and Coleman. Top.guys won't play here.

  • YAWN.

    @syd said:

    I believe all 3 of the Vikings qb's are free agents this year maybe we can choose from their left overs ?

    Idiot fukcking Browns fans going through more mental masturbation....inventing Browns football moves that have abso-Shmucking-lutely no chance of even being considered.....let alone happening.

    Seriously, don't you jackoffs get tired pf dping this same.schidt year after year after year?

    Is reality that fukcing hard for you to accept?

    NOBODY OF ANY TALENT WANTS TO COME TO SCHIDTHOLE cleveland.

    Myels Garrett made goddamned video offering fellatio to Jerry Jones to rescue him. A top rated college qb threatened to stay on college rather than come.to schidt hole-land.

    Meanwhile.  You jackoffs believe Cleveland is a mover-shaker.......top franchise.

    Do you hear players objecting to any other city?

    But hey..........go ahead.....pretend that Cleveland  is a really.cool place. EVERYONE wants to play on Cleveland. LMAO.

    I imagine this is why.the Browns continue to draft.schidt like Garrett and Coleman. Top.guys won't play here.

    @ghoolie said:

    YAWN.

    Idiot fukcking Browns fans going through more mental masturbation....inventing Browns football moves that have abso-Shmucking-lutely no chance of even being considered.....let alone happening.

    Seriously, don't you jackoffs get tired pf dping this same.schidt year after year after year?

    Is reality that fukcing hard for you to accept?

    NOBODY OF ANY TALENT WANTS TO COME TO SCHIDTHOLE cleveland.

    Myels Garrett made goddamned video offering fellatio to Jerry Jones to rescue him. A top rated college qb threatened to stay on college rather than come.to schidt hole-land.

    Meanwhile.  You jackoffs believe Cleveland is a mover-shaker.......top franchise.

    Do you hear players objecting to any other city?

    But hey..........go ahead.....pretend that Cleveland  is a really.cool place. EVERYONE wants to play on Cleveland. LMAO.

    I imagine this is why.the Browns continue to draft.schidt like Garrett and Coleman. Top.guys won't play here.

    For someone giving up the NFL you seem strangely obsessed with the Browns.

  • @the-gipper said:

    Similar to the Smith deal....all done but the signing on the date they can.

    Except the league year is not over so as of now Cousins is still a WSH employee and any talking to him is considered "illegal tampering" under league rules. There is a "legal tampering" period a day or so before the official start of the league year... and there's a more relaxed view of "conversations" with agents as that day approaches, but this is way outside that timing.

    So it can't be "similar".

    Thinking more on it... either WSH has filed paperwork to release Cousins or they've given permission to teams to talk to their employee.

    @tour2ma said:

    Except the league year is not over so as of now Cousins is still a WSH employee and any talking to him is considered "illegal tampering" under league rules. There is a "legal tampering" period a day or so before the official start of the league year... and there's a more relaxed view of "conversations" with agents as that day approaches, but this is way outside that timing.

    So it can't be "similar".

    Thinking more on it... either WSH has filed paperwork to release Cousins or they've given permission to teams to talk to their employee.

    Sure...

  • A little Skin Bracer for the Cousins optimists...

    ... Cousins can pick his destination. Sure, the Browns have the most money, but unless they come in way over what other suitors are willing to pay him, Cousins will likely not choose the Browns. Last year, Tony Jefferson chose the Ravens over the Browns in free agency for less  money because he wanted to have a better chance at the playoffs.

    Cousins told New York radio station WFAN on Tuesday he wants to go to a winner.

    “Winning is everything, especially at this stage of my career,” Cousins said. “I’m going into Year 7. Because I’ve been franchise-tagged twice, it’s not about the money so much. It’s about winning. I want to win.

    “This isn’t the NBA," he said. "You can’t just get one player and now you’re in the AFC championship game or NFC championship game. There are other pieces that come into play.”

    https://scout.com/nfl/browns/Article/Will-the-Browns-pay-the-price-for-their-1-31-record-114477106

  • But on the other hand ochocinco says we're a lock... so y'all got that going for you...

    Chad Johnson says Kirk Cousins will sign with Cleveland Browns, Joe Thomas says team is the favorite

    "Don't listen to any sources out there, I said it first," Johnson added.
     
  • Glance at teams with QB need and space to accomodate a $30mm/yr QB...

    Team Cap
    Space
    Effective Cap
    Space
    ℹ️
    # Active
    Cap Spending
    Dead
    Money
    49ers $113,574,832 $113,574,832 61 $105,419,029 $15,054,569
    Browns $109,653,737 $109,653,737 70 $116,984,421 $10,274,802
    Jets      $72,446,618   $72,446,618 55   $118,713,011   $2,918,337
    Vikings $50,163,643   $49,203,643 49  $140,910,744    $654,816
    Bills $29,418,581  $29,418,581 52    $141,045,590 $18,719,288
    Broncos $26,773,245  $26,773,245 59    $161,069,049 $365,907

    BUF and DNV would have to do a little shuffling, but are well within "striking distance".

    Teams that would have to do a lot more work include:

    Jaguars $16,517,319 $16,517,319 66 $188,606,617 $644,803
    Cardinals $8,714,438 $8,714,438 51 $170,213,859 $673,489
    Dolphins $7,487,613 $7,487,613 55 $169,304,860 $276,688

    If going to a winner is a strong consideration, then the Vikes, Broncos and Jags would have to be the top contenders.

  • Jags extended Bortles so they are out of the running.

  • well if ocho said it 😵

  • As the main guy fighting off the salary cap hawks in favor of Cousins, I think I'm out after the Smith trade. Smith netted a 3rd and a premium young corner. You would have to think the redskins are looking at that and thinking they can atleast get a 1st for Cousins, if not more. I would love to have Cousins but if we have to give up a pick in the top 3 rounds I would much rather look at a free agent like Bridgewater. Worse come to worse we start the rookie or we let Kizer take the lumps next year

  • Glance at teams with QB need and space to accomodate a $30mm/yr QB...

    Team Cap
    Space
    Effective Cap
    Space
    ℹ️
    # Active
    Cap Spending
    Dead
    Money
    49ers $113,574,832 $113,574,832 61 $105,419,029 $15,054,569
    Browns $109,653,737 $109,653,737 70 $116,984,421 $10,274,802
    Jets      $72,446,618   $72,446,618 55   $118,713,011   $2,918,337
    Vikings $50,163,643   $49,203,643 49  $140,910,744    $654,816
    Bills $29,418,581  $29,418,581 52    $141,045,590 $18,719,288
    Broncos $26,773,245  $26,773,245 59    $161,069,049 $365,907

    BUF and DNV would have to do a little shuffling, but are well within "striking distance".

    Teams that would have to do a lot more work include:

    Jaguars $16,517,319 $16,517,319 66 $188,606,617 $644,803
    Cardinals $8,714,438 $8,714,438 51 $170,213,859 $673,489
    Dolphins $7,487,613 $7,487,613 55 $169,304,860 $276,688

    If going to a winner is a strong consideration, then the Vikes, Broncos and Jags would have to be the top contenders.

    @tour2ma said:

    Glance at teams with QB need and space to accomodate a $30mm/yr QB...

    Team Cap
    Space
    Effective Cap
    Space
    ℹ️
    # Active
    Cap Spending
    Dead
    Money
    49ers $113,574,832 $113,574,832 61 $105,419,029 $15,054,569
    Browns $109,653,737 $109,653,737 70 $116,984,421 $10,274,802
    Jets      $72,446,618   $72,446,618 55   $118,713,011   $2,918,337
    Vikings $50,163,643   $49,203,643 49  $140,910,744    $654,816
    Bills $29,418,581  $29,418,581 52    $141,045,590 $18,719,288
    Broncos $26,773,245  $26,773,245 59    $161,069,049 $365,907

    BUF and DNV would have to do a little shuffling, but are well within "striking distance".

    Teams that would have to do a lot more work include:

    Jaguars $16,517,319 $16,517,319 66 $188,606,617 $644,803
    Cardinals $8,714,438 $8,714,438 51 $170,213,859 $673,489
    Dolphins $7,487,613 $7,487,613 55 $169,304,860 $276,688

    If going to a winner is a strong consideration, then the Vikes, Broncos and Jags would have to be the top contenders.49ers

    49ers  already have their guy.   Are Jets really much better if at all than Browns if "winning is the goal?  Vikings...yes...but will they prefer to stick with what they know in Keenum/the Twat etc. 

    Bills have what is supposed to be a good defense...so they could be in their with Broncos....but both, as you say, would have to shuffle cap space.

  • As the main guy fighting off the salary cap hawks in favor of Cousins, I think I'm out after the Smith trade. Smith netted a 3rd and a premium young corner. You would have to think the redskins are looking at that and thinking they can atleast get a 1st for Cousins, if not more. I would love to have Cousins but if we have to give up a pick in the top 3 rounds I would much rather look at a free agent like Bridgewater. Worse come to worse we start the rookie or we let Kizer take the lumps next year

    @louisville-slugger said:

    As the main guy fighting off the salary cap hawks in favor of Cousins, I think I'm out after the Smith trade. Smith netted a 3rd and a premium young corner. You would have to think the redskins are looking at that and thinking they can atleast get a 1st for Cousins, if not more. I would love to have Cousins but if we have to give up a pick in the top 3 rounds I would much rather look at a free agent like Bridgewater. Worse come to worse we start the rookie or we let Kizer take the lumps next year

    Washington would have to sign him or give him the 34 million tag to trade him. So there will be no compensation given up to get Captain Kirk except for the exorbitant amounts of money he will demand, worth it or not

  • It's a shame he's not tradeable. Anyone who wouldn't give pick 4 for Cousins needs therapy 🙂 I mean serious ? therapy

  • Jags extended Bortles so they are out of the running.

    Where would I sign up?

    @logicisforsquares said:

    Jags extended Bortles so they are out of the running.

    Link? Not finding that news anywhere...

    JAX was pretty well committed when Bortles just put his wrist under the knife which fully guaranteed his 5th-year-option, 2018 contract. Well played, Mr. Bortles.

  • Where would I sign up?

    @logicisforsquares said:

    Jags extended Bortles so they are out of the running.

    Link? Not finding that news anywhere...

    JAX was pretty well committed when Bortles just put his wrist under the knife which fully guaranteed his 5th-year-option, 2018 contract. Well played, Mr. Bortles.

    @tour2ma said:

    Where would I sign up?

    Link? Not finding that news anywhere...

    JAX was pretty well committed when Bortles just put his wrist under the knife which fully guaranteed his 5th-year-option, 2018 contract. Well played, Mr. Bortles.

    https://nesn.com/2018/01/jaguars-reportedly-plan-to-keep-blake-bortles-even-with-kirk-cousins-available/

    Reportedly. So not official, my bad. 

  • Thanks...

    JAX had cap space issues pursuing Cousins before Bortles salary was guaranteed. Now it's really hard for them to make it work.

  • YAWN.

    @syd said:

    I believe all 3 of the Vikings qb's are free agents this year maybe we can choose from their left overs ?

    Idiot fukcking Browns fans going through more mental masturbation....inventing Browns football moves that have abso-Shmucking-lutely no chance of even being considered.....let alone happening.

    Seriously, don't you jackoffs get tired pf dping this same.schidt year after year after year?

    Is reality that fukcing hard for you to accept?

    NOBODY OF ANY TALENT WANTS TO COME TO SCHIDTHOLE cleveland.

    Myels Garrett made goddamned video offering fellatio to Jerry Jones to rescue him. A top rated college qb threatened to stay on college rather than come.to schidt hole-land.

    Meanwhile.  You jackoffs believe Cleveland is a mover-shaker.......top franchise.

    Do you hear players objecting to any other city?

    But hey..........go ahead.....pretend that Cleveland  is a really.cool place. EVERYONE wants to play on Cleveland. LMAO.

    I imagine this is why.the Browns continue to draft.schidt like Garrett and Coleman. Top.guys won't play here.

    @ghoolie said:

    YAWN.

    Idiot fukcking Browns fans going through more mental masturbation....inventing Browns football moves that have abso-Shmucking-lutely no chance of even being considered.....let alone happening.

    Seriously, don't you jackoffs get tired pf dping this same.schidt year after year after year?

    Is reality that fukcing hard for you to accept?

    NOBODY OF ANY TALENT WANTS TO COME TO SCHIDTHOLE cleveland.

    Myels Garrett made goddamned video offering fellatio to Jerry Jones to rescue him. A top rated college qb threatened to stay on college rather than come.to schidt hole-land.

    Meanwhile.  You jackoffs believe Cleveland is a mover-shaker.......top franchise.

    Do you hear players objecting to any other city?

    But hey..........go ahead.....pretend that Cleveland  is a really.cool place. EVERYONE wants to play on Cleveland. LMAO.

    I imagine this is why.the Browns continue to draft.schidt like Garrett and Coleman. Top.guys won't play here.

    Money talks. Period.