Let’s win now
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"A dime a dozen" maybe correct about lawyers, ever seen the yellow pages?
JUST KIDDING GIP. But for a good starting OL that's going to be there for 10 years to get some continuity with his line-mates I'd take a 1st or 2nd round shot at an OL, especially if you've two.
Now highest on the dime list maybe RBs, some LBs maybe long snappers or TEs?
It would take a fair amount of work, but it'd be interesting to examine the league-wide bust and "dime" percentages for each position.
It would take a fair amount of work, but it'd be interesting to examine the league-wide bust and "dime" percentages for each position.
Where's Gip he likes to do this stuff.....and he's good at it.
....... (just trying to get back on his good side
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Certainly true in the top three rounds or so. Before Cam you have to go back to Fowler in '02 or Ed King in '91 to find a hint of a miss in rounds 1 thru 3.
However, the other side of the coin is equally true, i.e., we haven't unearthed a quality, OL starter in Rnd 4 or later since.... Winters in '87? You'd think at "a dime a dozen" we would have had more late-round success than that.
"A dime a dozen" maybe correct about lawyers, ever seen the yellow pages?
JUST KIDDING GIP. But for a good starting OL that's going to be there for 10 years to get some continuity with his line-mates I'd take a 1st or 2nd round shot at an OL, especially if you've two.
Now highest on the dime list maybe RBs, some LBs maybe long snappers or TEs?
"A dime a dozen" maybe correct about lawyers, ever seen the yellow pages?
JUST KIDDING GIP. But for a good starting OL that's going to be there for 10 years to get some continuity with his line-mates I'd take a 1st or 2nd round shot at an OL, especially if you've two.
Now highest on the dime list maybe RBs, some LBs maybe long snappers or TEs?
There are certainly more than enough lawyers around....you don't have to tell me. It is partially why I am on the verge of partial retirement.
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One thing is for sure the browns are on the cusp of a great beginning. The a new oc and a gm that can find the diamonds in the draft. A few big pieces remain. For instance the line there are holes they need filled and we have thenpicks to do it with the first two picks give me Mike McGlinchey and Orlando Brown bring over Kirk and bring back prior I believe that’s a top ten offense. Spend the rest of the picks on d. Boom start the Winning.
I am sure using the first 2 picks of the draft on the O line will go down great on here
I am sure using the first 2 picks of the draft on the O line will go down great on here
We know it's not happening...
someone better erase this thread before Ghoolie see's it , drafting 2 OT with the first 2 picks he'll have an epic meltdown !!!!
It would have a positive effect on the board. Ghoolie's head would explode, and we wouldn't have to deal with him anymore....
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Let's win now imploded when Alex Smith went to the freaking Redskins. And don't say anything about Kirk Cousins...he's not coming here. (fun fact! Only a few years ago we could've gotten Cousins for a 2nd round pick but we said no).
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Let's win now imploded when Alex Smith went to the freaking Redskins. And don't say anything about Kirk Cousins...he's not coming here. (fun fact! Only a few years ago we could've gotten Cousins for a 2nd round pick but we said no).
Let's win now imploded when Alex Smith went to the freaking Redskins. And don't say anything about Kirk Cousins...he's not coming here. (fun fact! Only a few years ago we could've gotten Cousins for a 2nd round pick but we said no).
I'm just waiting to open my computer or see the local TV news say "BROWNS SIGN COUSINS", but I'm also waiting for the Indians and Cavaliers to win it all.
GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND! -
One thing is for sure the browns are on the cusp of a great beginning. The a new oc and a gm that can find the diamonds in the draft. A few big pieces remain. For instance the line there are holes they need filled and we have thenpicks to do it with the first two picks give me Mike McGlinchey and Orlando Brown bring over Kirk and bring back prior I believe that’s a top ten offense. Spend the rest of the picks on d. Boom start the Winning.
One thing is for sure the browns are on the cusp of a great beginning. The a new oc and a gm that can find the diamonds in the draft. A few big pieces remain. For instance the line there are holes they need filled and we have thenpicks to do it with the first two picks give me Mike McGlinchey and Orlando Brown bring over Kirk and bring back prior I believe that’s a top ten offense. Spend the rest of the picks on d. Boom start the Winning.
"Let's win now".......*drafts two o linemen in the top five picks*
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One thing is for sure the browns are on the cusp of a great beginning. The a new oc and a gm that can find the diamonds in the draft. A few big pieces remain. For instance the line there are holes they need filled and we have thenpicks to do it with the first two picks give me Mike McGlinchey and Orlando Brown bring over Kirk and bring back prior I believe that’s a top ten offense. Spend the rest of the picks on d. Boom start the Winning.
"Let's win now".......*drafts two o linemen in the top five picks*
"Let's win now".......*drafts two o linemen in the top five picks*
Yeah...
then add "win now" and "cusp of a great beginning" and...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
One thing is for sure the browns are on the cusp of a great beginning. The a new oc and a gm that can find the diamonds in the draft. A few big pieces remain. For instance the line there are holes they need filled and we have thenpicks to do it with the first two picks give me Mike McGlinchey and Orlando Brown bring over Kirk and bring back prior I believe that’s a top ten offense. Spend the rest of the picks on d. Boom start the Winning.
"Let's win now".......*drafts two o linemen in the top five picks*
"Let's win now".......*drafts two o linemen in the top five picks*
When there's nothing wrong with the line. Most if not all of the sacks last season were due to Kizer holding the ball too long. We will need someone to replace Thomas at some point, but not yet.
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"Let's win now".......*drafts two o linemen in the top five picks*
When there's nothing wrong with the line. Most if not all of the sacks last season were due to Kizer holding the ball too long. We will need someone to replace Thomas at some point, but not yet.
When there's nothing wrong with the line. Most if not all of the sacks last season were due to Kizer holding the ball too long. We will need someone to replace Thomas at some point, but not yet.
Joe's heir apparent may need to be drafted at some point during the first 3 rounds this year or next for sure.
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When there's nothing wrong with the line. Most if not all of the sacks last season were due to Kizer holding the ball too long. We will need someone to replace Thomas at some point, but not yet.
Joe's heir apparent may need to be drafted at some point during the first 3 rounds this year or next for sure.
Joe's heir apparent may need to be drafted at some point during the first 3 rounds this year or next for sure.
I'd prefer to wait till next year but if theres a guy there in round 3 that would be a good pick up.
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When there's nothing wrong with the line. Most if not all of the sacks last season were due to Kizer holding the ball too long. We will need someone to replace Thomas at some point, but not yet.
Joe's heir apparent may need to be drafted at some point during the first 3 rounds this year or next for sure.
Joe's heir apparent may need to be drafted at some point during the first 3 rounds this year or next for sure.
What aboot Rod Johnson? *(yes...I went Canadian on you).
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Let's win now imploded when Alex Smith went to the freaking Redskins. And don't say anything about Kirk Cousins...he's not coming here. (fun fact! Only a few years ago we could've gotten Cousins for a 2nd round pick but we said no).
I'm just waiting to open my computer or see the local TV news say "BROWNS SIGN COUSINS", but I'm also waiting for the Indians and Cavaliers to win it all.
I'm just waiting to open my computer or see the local TV news say "BROWNS SIGN COUSINS", but I'm also waiting for the Indians and Cavaliers to win it all.
Hehehehe. Just so you aren't waiting for a miracle, repeat after me. "Kirk Cousins will never sign with the Browns. Ever, ever, ever, EVER."
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I'm just waiting to open my computer or see the local TV news say "BROWNS SIGN COUSINS", but I'm also waiting for the Indians and Cavaliers to win it all.
Hehehehe. Just so you aren't waiting for a miracle, repeat after me. "Kirk Cousins will never sign with the Browns. Ever, ever, ever, EVER."
Hehehehe. Just so you aren't waiting for a miracle, repeat after me. "Kirk Cousins will never sign with the Browns. Ever, ever, ever, EVER."
Well.....as I heard on the radio this afternoon: You will know what Cousins is all about based on where he signs. If he signs with the Browns or Jets....then he is ALL about the money. If he signs with the Vikings, Jags, Broncos...then he is about winning.
So....riddle me this: After receiving the franchise tag 2 years running this cat has made a LOT of money. Hasn't he made like 40 million just the last couple of years?
(actually...it is 43.9 million). All told, the team has paid Cousins $43.9 million over the last two seasons. And should the Redskins choose again not to give their franchise quarterback a long-term contract, or franchise him to the tune of $34.5 million in 2018, he would become a much-sought-after free agent. And to hear Cousins tell it, he's at least interested in the prospect of, in the simplest terms, going to a team that appreciates his worth and has a chance to win the Super Bowl.
He claims he is all about winning:
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Joe's heir apparent may need to be drafted at some point during the first 3 rounds this year or next for sure.
What aboot Rod Johnson? *(yes...I went Canadian on you).
What aboot Rod Johnson? *(yes...I went Canadian on you).
You said "Rod Johnson"... uhhuhhuhhuhhuh...
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What aboot Rod Johnson? *(yes...I went Canadian on you).
You said "Rod Johnson"... uhhuhhuhhuhhuh...
You said "Rod Johnson"... uhhuhhuhhuhhuh...
Isn't that his name. The OT that we drafted. Yeah I know
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I'm just waiting to open my computer or see the local TV news say "BROWNS SIGN COUSINS", but I'm also waiting for the Indians and Cavaliers to win it all.
Hehehehe. Just so you aren't waiting for a miracle, repeat after me. "Kirk Cousins will never sign with the Browns. Ever, ever, ever, EVER."
Hehehehe. Just so you aren't waiting for a miracle, repeat after me. "Kirk Cousins will never sign with the Browns. Ever, ever, ever, EVER."
But I have a dream......OK so I don't, I'm a pragmatic realist, I give up. The BROWNS will draft one of these super rookies they'll flop and Kizer will start the next 15 games.
Maybe a 0.01% chance Cousins will be a brownie?
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Ya know, I always seem to agree that our OL could use improving. And the situation with JT could make things interesting with the OL and the draft.
Having said that, we need playmakers! We need a QB...the best one in the draft. A WR. It's a good draft to pick up a RB without using a top 5 pick on one. We've gotta have SOMEone play free safety so that they can move Peppers somewhere within ear-shot of the LOS. - Kryst Sake.......the QB yells HIKE and he doesn't hear it for two full seconds.
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Hehehehe. Just so you aren't waiting for a miracle, repeat after me. "Kirk Cousins will never sign with the Browns. Ever, ever, ever, EVER."
But I have a dream......OK so I don't, I'm a pragmatic realist, I give up. The BROWNS will draft one of these super rookies they'll flop and Kizer will start the next 15 games.
Maybe a 0.01% chance Cousins will be a brownie?
But I have a dream......OK so I don't, I'm a pragmatic realist, I give up. The BROWNS will draft one of these super rookies they'll flop and Kizer will start the next 15 games.
Maybe a 0.01% chance Cousins will be a brownie?
Since nobody can be 100% sure, I'll grant you the hope of .01%. Feel better? Lol.
But you do sort of bring up a valid point. Although I don't believe the rookie we draft will "flop", I DO believe Kizer has a bigger chance to start than many realize. Whoever we draft will obviously be a rookie, and he's not going to have the faintest idea of how to run an NFL offense, understand the language, or fully comprehend the playbook. Kizer will. This isn't to say our rookie CAN'T beat him out, but it certainly won't be easy, and I doubt the starting gig will be freely given.
No, I suspect our rookie won't play much, especially at first, and we'll throw in some washed out veteran that nobody else wanted. The ever-so-exciting prospects include Sam Bradford (and his knee surgeon), Teddy Twatwater (with Sam's knee surgeon), Chase Daniels (who?!), Nick Foles (surely he was benched for a reason), AJ McCarron (impressive resume of 3 or 4 starts I believe!), and last but not least, Josh McCown (yes, THAT Josh McCown). Have I wet your appetite yet? Oh, and nobody say another word about Kirk Cousins. He's been addressed, and I also don't want to hear anything about Case Keenum. Minnesota made it to the conference championship, they're NOT letting him go, mmmmkay?
So the smart money says this: We're going to trot out the washed out veteran to begin the season. We're going to probably go....oh...like, 1-7 to start the year? We'll probably have our bye right around then, so after that, we'll toss the young rookie out on his butt and tell everyone "it's for his own good" and "he'll get invaluable experience!". The rookie, like virtually ALL rookies, will of course start out completely miserable. We're drafting a QB with the 1st pick, so the pressure to play him will be IMMENSE and suffocating. Our management will give in after the bye week and throw this kid out there, and hopefully NOT ruin him. We'll finish the year with a couple of wins, it won't be enough to save our coach's jobs (good news for some here, not for me), and then NEXT year we'll be starting all over again, and dilly dilly. Did I miss anything?
I need some coffee to get me out of the grumpy, childish, and petulant state I'm currently in. Lol.
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But I have a dream......OK so I don't, I'm a pragmatic realist, I give up. The BROWNS will draft one of these super rookies they'll flop and Kizer will start the next 15 games.
Maybe a 0.01% chance Cousins will be a brownie?
Since nobody can be 100% sure, I'll grant you the hope of .01%. Feel better? Lol.
But you do sort of bring up a valid point. Although I don't believe the rookie we draft will "flop", I DO believe Kizer has a bigger chance to start than many realize. Whoever we draft will obviously be a rookie, and he's not going to have the faintest idea of how to run an NFL offense, understand the language, or fully comprehend the playbook. Kizer will. This isn't to say our rookie CAN'T beat him out, but it certainly won't be easy, and I doubt the starting gig will be freely given.
No, I suspect our rookie won't play much, especially at first, and we'll throw in some washed out veteran that nobody else wanted. The ever-so-exciting prospects include Sam Bradford (and his knee surgeon), Teddy Twatwater (with Sam's knee surgeon), Chase Daniels (who?!), Nick Foles (surely he was benched for a reason), AJ McCarron (impressive resume of 3 or 4 starts I believe!), and last but not least, Josh McCown (yes, THAT Josh McCown). Have I wet your appetite yet? Oh, and nobody say another word about Kirk Cousins. He's been addressed, and I also don't want to hear anything about Case Keenum. Minnesota made it to the conference championship, they're NOT letting him go, mmmmkay?
So the smart money says this: We're going to trot out the washed out veteran to begin the season. We're going to probably go....oh...like, 1-7 to start the year? We'll probably have our bye right around then, so after that, we'll toss the young rookie out on his butt and tell everyone "it's for his own good" and "he'll get invaluable experience!". The rookie, like virtually ALL rookies, will of course start out completely miserable. We're drafting a QB with the 1st pick, so the pressure to play him will be IMMENSE and suffocating. Our management will give in after the bye week and throw this kid out there, and hopefully NOT ruin him. We'll finish the year with a couple of wins, it won't be enough to save our coach's jobs (good news for some here, not for me), and then NEXT year we'll be starting all over again, and dilly dilly. Did I miss anything?
I need some coffee to get me out of the grumpy, childish, and petulant state I'm currently in. Lol.
I need some coffee to get me out of the grumpy, childish, and petulant state I'm currently in. Lol.
A little mixer for your coffee. LOL!
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