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  • PoeticGP PoeticG wrote on last edited by

    In Comparing Barkley to Gurley- 

    Let's see here, if the charts below are to be believed then you can see that Barkley beats out Gurley in nearly every single category. 

    Would it be fair to say that Gurley had a better Offensive Line at Georgia? Many times the defense would meet Barkley in the backfield as soon as he got the ball, he'd make 2 or 3 guys miss to pick up positive yardage. 

    Barkley played in more games, had more yards rushing, had longer runs for TDs, had more rushing TDs, had more receptions, more reception yards, longer reception for TD and he had more receiving TDs. 

    Both players are team protecting with the ball in their hands as they had a very low amount of fumbles.  

    Outside of these charts, Barkley is stronger, faster and more athletic. He's got better moves and better character. 

    It's a double edged sword, it may seem like I'm putting down the Offensive Player of the Year... I'm not, I'm just saying that by comparing the statistics and using the eye test, Barkley is the superior player. 

     

    College statistics[edit]

     
    NCAA career statistics
    Penn State Nittany Lions
    Season Team Rushing   Receiving   Kickoff Return   Passing
    G Att Yds Avg Long TD Rec Yds Avg Long TD KR Yds TD Long Comp Att Yards TD
    2015 Penn State 11 182 1,076 5.9 56 7 20 161 8.1 32 0 1 12 0 12 0 0 0 0
    2016 Penn State 14 272 1,496 5.5 81T 18 28 402 14.4 44T 5 4 84 0 33 0 0 0 0
    2017 Penn State 13 217 1,271 5.9 92T 18 54 632 11.7 85T 3 14 423 2 98T 2 2 36 1
    Total 38 672 3,843 5.7 92T 43   102 1,195 11.7 85T 8   19 519 2 98T 2 2 36 1

    College statistics[edit]

    Georgia Bulldogs
    Season Rushing Receiving Fumbles
    Year GP GS Att Yards Avg Long TD Rec Yards Avg Long TD Fum Lost
    2012 14 14 222 1,385 6.2 55 17 16 117 7.3 23 0 2 1
    2013 10 10 165 989 6.0 75 10 37 441 11.9 73 6 1 1
    2014 6 6 123 911 7.4 51 9 12 57 4.8 15 0 0 0
    Career 30 30 510 3,285 6.4 75 36 65 615 9.5 73 6 3 2
  • UndertakerU Undertaker wrote on last edited by

    I like Barkley and he might be the most talent player in this draft....Chubb and Fitzpatrick are tough as well. However, I think Barkley still has to prove it before he is mentioned with Gurley

  • gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by

    minus 162 carries times 6 yards per carry equals fuzzy math of addition 972 yards poe..😛 Gurley's knee looks fine in pro ball...carry on Captain Hook,Jack or Morgan..

  • In Comparing Barkley to Gurley- 

    Let's see here, if the charts below are to be believed then you can see that Barkley beats out Gurley in nearly every single category. 

    Would it be fair to say that Gurley had a better Offensive Line at Georgia? Many times the defense would meet Barkley in the backfield as soon as he got the ball, he'd make 2 or 3 guys miss to pick up positive yardage. 

    Barkley played in more games, had more yards rushing, had longer runs for TDs, had more rushing TDs, had more receptions, more reception yards, longer reception for TD and he had more receiving TDs. 

    Both players are team protecting with the ball in their hands as they had a very low amount of fumbles.  

    Outside of these charts, Barkley is stronger, faster and more athletic. He's got better moves and better character. 

    It's a double edged sword, it may seem like I'm putting down the Offensive Player of the Year... I'm not, I'm just saying that by comparing the statistics and using the eye test, Barkley is the superior player. 

     

    College statistics[edit]

     
    NCAA career statistics
    Penn State Nittany Lions
    Season Team Rushing   Receiving   Kickoff Return   Passing
    G Att Yds Avg Long TD Rec Yds Avg Long TD KR Yds TD Long Comp Att Yards TD
    2015 Penn State 11 182 1,076 5.9 56 7 20 161 8.1 32 0 1 12 0 12 0 0 0 0
    2016 Penn State 14 272 1,496 5.5 81T 18 28 402 14.4 44T 5 4 84 0 33 0 0 0 0
    2017 Penn State 13 217 1,271 5.9 92T 18 54 632 11.7 85T 3 14 423 2 98T 2 2 36 1
    Total 38 672 3,843 5.7 92T 43   102 1,195 11.7 85T 8   19 519 2 98T 2 2 36 1

    College statistics[edit]

    Georgia Bulldogs
    Season Rushing Receiving Fumbles
    Year GP GS Att Yards Avg Long TD Rec Yards Avg Long TD Fum Lost
    2012 14 14 222 1,385 6.2 55 17 16 117 7.3 23 0 2 1
    2013 10 10 165 989 6.0 75 10 37 441 11.9 73 6 1 1
    2014 6 6 123 911 7.4 51 9 12 57 4.8 15 0 0 0
    Career 30 30 510 3,285 6.4 75 36 65 615 9.5 73 6 3 2
    Gunz41G Gunz41 wrote on last edited by

    @poeticg said:

    In Comparing Barkley to Gurley- 

    Let's see here, if the charts below are to be believed then you can see that Barkley beats out Gurley in nearly every single category. 

    Would it be fair to say that Gurley had a better Offensive Line at Georgia? Many times the defense would meet Barkley in the backfield as soon as he got the ball, he'd make 2 or 3 guys miss to pick up positive yardage. 

    Barkley played in more games, had more yards rushing, had longer runs for TDs, had more rushing TDs, had more receptions, more reception yards, longer reception for TD and he had more receiving TDs. 

    Both players are team protecting with the ball in their hands as they had a very low amount of fumbles.  

    Outside of these charts, Barkley is stronger, faster and more athletic. He's got better moves and better character. 

    It's a double edged sword, it may seem like I'm putting down the Offensive Player of the Year... I'm not, I'm just saying that by comparing the statistics and using the eye test, Barkley is the superior player. 

     

    College statistics[edit]

     
    NCAA career statistics
    Penn State Nittany Lions
    Season Team Rushing   Receiving   Kickoff Return   Passing
    G Att Yds Avg Long TD Rec Yds Avg Long TD KR Yds TD Long Comp Att Yards TD
    2015 Penn State 11 182 1,076 5.9 56 7 20 161 8.1 32 0 1 12 0 12 0 0 0 0
    2016 Penn State 14 272 1,496 5.5 81T 18 28 402 14.4 44T 5 4 84 0 33 0 0 0 0
    2017 Penn State 13 217 1,271 5.9 92T 18 54 632 11.7 85T 3 14 423 2 98T 2 2 36 1
    Total 38 672 3,843 5.7 92T 43   102 1,195 11.7 85T 8   19 519 2 98T 2 2 36 1

    College statistics[edit]

    Georgia Bulldogs
    Season Rushing Receiving Fumbles
    Year GP GS Att Yards Avg Long TD Rec Yards Avg Long TD Fum Lost
    2012 14 14 222 1,385 6.2 55 17 16 117 7.3 23 0 2 1
    2013 10 10 165 989 6.0 75 10 37 441 11.9 73 6 1 1
    2014 6 6 123 911 7.4 51 9 12 57 4.8 15 0 0 0
    Career 30 30 510 3,285 6.4 75 36 65 615 9.5 73 6 3 2

    You can use some kind of stat to try and prove your unproven player, but what part of clocked under 4.3 vs 4.33-4.38 Don't you understand? Just because he had a slower time sometime soon after an injury doesn't mean at full strength he isn't faster than your boy.

    And last time this should have to be said, NOBODY HERE IS SAYING BARKLEY WON'T BE GOOD/GREAT, but he is UNPROVEN and he certainly hasn't shown ANYTHING to be considered the best player ever and be talked about more highly than GURLEY.

    Since apparently we all make too many good points for you to answer any question about your SEVERE OVERHYPE of Mr. Barkley, try answering just this one.

    Do you think the Rams would trade Gurley for Barkley? 

  • Contest? There is no contest. NOBODY anywhere can match my insight and accuracy.

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by

    @ghoolie said:

    Contest? There is no contest.Everyone Everywhere  can match my insight and accuracy.

    FIFY

  • @tiamat63 said:

    😆😆

    You find it funny huh? 

    You don't believe that the play action fake is supported by having a home run threat at running back? 

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by

    @poeticg said:

    You find it funny huh? 

    You don't believe that the play action fake is supported by having a home run threat at running back? 

    What is funny is that you base your entire support for him as a choice at QB on his play action fake ability.

    See...you are a funny guy.  Like Richard Pryor, Robin Williams, Gabriel Iglesias.   We laugh at just about everything you say.  

    You should try out at one of those open mike nights at a Comedy Club.

    I mean...you would get some serious laughs.  

    Sort of Henny Youngmanish:     "Take Saquon Barkley. Please"!!!   You would have them rolling in the floors. 

  • The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by

    Rodney Dangerfield ain't got nothing on PoG.

  • PoeticGP PoeticG wrote on last edited by

    Most everyone I've talked to in NE Ohio about the Browns and the Draft, are all on board with Barkley at #1 Overall. They recognize the talent.

    It's only a small handful of people that are up in arms about the issue... You tend to think that a QB at #1 is going to fix everything... but what if that player turns out to be a bust?

    Let's say that we do take Chosen injury prone Frozen #1 overall or maybe Ronald McDonald #1 and they bust. NY or the Colts take Barkley and he does in fact turn out to be a stud RB like many have projected. We reached for a bust prospect at #1 and then take bust on the #4 as well, could be an injury or maybe Fitzpatrick is a product of an outstanding Alabama team... then what? Does it go down as the biggest draft blunder of all time? 

  • Most everyone I've talked to in NE Ohio about the Browns and the Draft, are all on board with Barkley at #1 Overall. They recognize the talent.

    It's only a small handful of people that are up in arms about the issue... You tend to think that a QB at #1 is going to fix everything... but what if that player turns out to be a bust?

    Let's say that we do take Chosen injury prone Frozen #1 overall or maybe Ronald McDonald #1 and they bust. NY or the Colts take Barkley and he does in fact turn out to be a stud RB like many have projected. We reached for a bust prospect at #1 and then take bust on the #4 as well, could be an injury or maybe Fitzpatrick is a product of an outstanding Alabama team... then what? Does it go down as the biggest draft blunder of all time? 

    T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by

    @poeticg said:

    Fitzpatrick is a product of an outstanding Alabama team... then what? Does it go down as the biggest draft blunder of all time? 

    LOL! The way Saban trusted Fitzgerald to run his defense on the field you might actually have an argument that an outstanding Fitzgerald made Bama.

  • Most everyone I've talked to in NE Ohio about the Browns and the Draft, are all on board with Barkley at #1 Overall. They recognize the talent.

    It's only a small handful of people that are up in arms about the issue... You tend to think that a QB at #1 is going to fix everything... but what if that player turns out to be a bust?

    Let's say that we do take Chosen injury prone Frozen #1 overall or maybe Ronald McDonald #1 and they bust. NY or the Colts take Barkley and he does in fact turn out to be a stud RB like many have projected. We reached for a bust prospect at #1 and then take bust on the #4 as well, could be an injury or maybe Fitzpatrick is a product of an outstanding Alabama team... then what? Does it go down as the biggest draft blunder of all time? 

    Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by

    @poeticg said:

    Most everyone I've talked to in NE Ohio about the Browns and the Draft, are all on board with Barkley at #1 Overall. They recognize the talent.

    Then you mention how Kevin Hogan will lead the team to the promise land with Trent Richardson as Barkley's running mate, and guys in white coats put you back in the mental hospital for a 48 hour stay. 

  • @poeticg said:

    Most everyone I've talked to in NE Ohio about the Browns and the Draft, are all on board with Barkley at #1 Overall. They recognize the talent.

    Then you mention how Kevin Hogan will lead the team to the promise land with Trent Richardson as Barkley's running mate, and guys in white coats put you back in the mental hospital for a 48 hour stay. 

    T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by

    @dutch-oven said:

    Then you mention how Kevin Hogan will lead the team to the promise land with Trent Richardson as Barkley's running mate, and guys in white coats put you back in the mental hospital for ANOTHER 48 hour stay. 

    FIFY😉

  • Most everyone I've talked to in NE Ohio about the Browns and the Draft, are all on board with Barkley at #1 Overall. They recognize the talent.

    It's only a small handful of people that are up in arms about the issue... You tend to think that a QB at #1 is going to fix everything... but what if that player turns out to be a bust?

    Let's say that we do take Chosen injury prone Frozen #1 overall or maybe Ronald McDonald #1 and they bust. NY or the Colts take Barkley and he does in fact turn out to be a stud RB like many have projected. We reached for a bust prospect at #1 and then take bust on the #4 as well, could be an injury or maybe Fitzpatrick is a product of an outstanding Alabama team... then what? Does it go down as the biggest draft blunder of all time? 

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by

    @poeticg said:

    Most everyone I've talked to in NE Ohio about the Browns and the Draft, are all on board with Barkley at #1 Overall. They recognize the talent.

    It's only a small handful of people that are up in arms about the issue... You tend to think that a QB at #1 is going to fix everything... but what if that player turns out to be a bust?

    Let's say that we do take Chosen injury prone Frozen #1 overall or maybe Ronald McDonald #1 and they bust. NY or the Colts take Barkley and he does in fact turn out to be a stud RB like many have projected. We reached for a bust prospect at #1 and then take bust on the #4 as well, could be an injury or maybe Fitzpatrick is a product of an outstanding Alabama team... then what? Does it go down as the biggest draft blunder of all time? 

  • @poeticg said:

    I don't know what you guys are saying?

    Same thing many of us have been saying... we do not agree with you.

    Flug's scenarios nailed it. If you pass on your QB at #1, then you have to hope he survives the next two picks because those are both going to be QBs... and more than likely the two QBs will be Darnold and Rosen... although probably in the more correct order.

    @flugel said:

    A lot of this I agree with Ghoolie. Well done! 

    Even the draft a monster for next to Garrett double team thing? Cause... you know... Sheldon?

    Also note that he doesn't commit to a QB at #1. Has to keep his powder dry for future "critiques".

    @poeticg said:

    Resign Trent and draft Barkley #1. Thunder and Lightning! Let's do this!

    Quality troll there...

    GhoolieG Ghoolie wrote on last edited by

    @tour2ma said:

    Same thing many of us have been saying... we do not agree with you.

    Flug's scenarios nailed it. If you pass on your QB at #1, then you have to hope he survives the next two picks because those are both going to be QBs... and more than likely the two QBs will be Darnold and Rosen... although probably in the more correct order.

    Even the draft a monster for next to Garrett double team thing? Cause... you know... Sheldon?

    Also note that he doesn't commit to a QB at #1. Has to keep his powder dry for future "critiques".

    Quality troll there...

    I have already named Mayfield as the best QB in this draft. If I could magically draft for the Browns, we would be a hell of a lot better off than we are now. We would have a QB, Julio Jones and better support players than we do now.

    My comments were NOT about individuals other than for one fukcking time since the drafting of Jim Brown, taking the best goddamned player in the draft........ Barkley.

    We were talking about how the browns could really make an impact. That IS by securing the #1, #2 anf then #4 or 5 pick to take the best WR in the draft.

    However they do it, the Browns need to pick #1 and #2 to get the QB they want, and Barkley, and then pick high enough, #4 or #5 to get the top WR. If they stand pat and pick #1 and #4, then they will not have a remarkable draft and they won't make the gain that they need to make to build momentum. hye need a QB, RB and top WR along with Gordon to get moving. Next years #1, Coleman, and THomas, or whoerver else they can get value for, needs to be packaged and traded to get to #1 #2 and #4/5.

    Sheldon is unremarkable.

  • C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by

    again - I like Barkley - who doesn't ? But it is a very excellent  rb draft. So, getting two other stars ? in other positions,

    I would be happy with some of the other rb's in the 2nd round, maybe third. So, Barkley, is terrific, but if you aren't a team on

    the verge of  being a complete team - I don't see any rb in the first round.

  • @tour2ma said:

    Same thing many of us have been saying... we do not agree with you.

    Flug's scenarios nailed it. If you pass on your QB at #1, then you have to hope he survives the next two picks because those are both going to be QBs... and more than likely the two QBs will be Darnold and Rosen... although probably in the more correct order.

    Even the draft a monster for next to Garrett double team thing? Cause... you know... Sheldon?

    Also note that he doesn't commit to a QB at #1. Has to keep his powder dry for future "critiques".

    Quality troll there...

    I have already named Mayfield as the best QB in this draft. If I could magically draft for the Browns, we would be a hell of a lot better off than we are now. We would have a QB, Julio Jones and better support players than we do now.

    My comments were NOT about individuals other than for one fukcking time since the drafting of Jim Brown, taking the best goddamned player in the draft........ Barkley.

    We were talking about how the browns could really make an impact. That IS by securing the #1, #2 anf then #4 or 5 pick to take the best WR in the draft.

    However they do it, the Browns need to pick #1 and #2 to get the QB they want, and Barkley, and then pick high enough, #4 or #5 to get the top WR. If they stand pat and pick #1 and #4, then they will not have a remarkable draft and they won't make the gain that they need to make to build momentum. hye need a QB, RB and top WR along with Gordon to get moving. Next years #1, Coleman, and THomas, or whoerver else they can get value for, needs to be packaged and traded to get to #1 #2 and #4/5.

    Sheldon is unremarkable.

    Gunz41G Gunz41 wrote on last edited by

    @ghoolie said:

    I have already named Mayfield as the best QB in this draft. If I could magically draft for the Browns, we would be a hell of a lot better off than we are now. We would have a QB, Julio Jones and better support players than we do now.

    My comments were NOT about individuals other than for one fukcking time since the drafting of Jim Brown, taking the best goddamned player in the draft........ Barkley.

    We were talking about how the browns could really make an impact. That IS by securing the #1, #2 anf then #4 or 5 pick to take the best WR in the draft.

    However they do it, the Browns need to pick #1 and #2 to get the QB they want, and Barkley, and then pick high enough, #4 or #5 to get the top WR. If they stand pat and pick #1 and #4, then they will not have a remarkable draft and they won't make the gain that they need to make to build momentum. hye need a QB, RB and top WR along with Gordon to get moving. Next years #1, Coleman, and THomas, or whoerver else they can get value for, needs to be packaged and traded to get to #1 #2 and #4/5.

    Sheldon is unremarkable.

    Again, you talk bad about them, and think you can get that kind of value.

    Of course we all know that if you were in charge of the Browns, they would never lose a game, and Paxton Lynch would be the NFL MVP. He would have made Brady retire ( since he was never going to win last year, and could never win a playoff game again this year.

    The kicker to your team would be, there would be no OL, ALL PLAYMAKERS, and either those playmakers would play defense too, or you wouldn't even have a defense. You would just let the other team score so you can go back on offense since defense doesn't matter.

    Let me break it down for you. You know NOTHING ABOUT FOOTBALL. You may be good in Vegas at bets or predictions, but the GAME, NADA ZILCH ZERO.

    You talk terrible about the team you supposedly like, and just as bad about the city. They can't get any top FAs, but you would have kept Julio Jones and others. 

    Congrats, besides being Nostradamus, you would be the best GM in history.

    Without any hyperbole, you are the best at something, and it isn't anything football related, or prediction related, you are the best TROLL EVER, and one seriously funny dude. Reading your rants is funny, but you trying to act like you have a clue about football, HILARIOUS

    Didn't you say you were done with the board, the Browns, FOOTBALL?

    You know why I dont talk about violins or whatever it is that you play? Because I dont know anything about the subject. You should try that approach with a subject you know nothing about, FOOTBALL.

  • PoeticGP PoeticG wrote on last edited by PoeticG

    Your Picks:
    Round 1 Pick 1: Saquon Barkley, RB, Penn State (A)
    Round 1 Pick 4: Baker Mayfield, QB, Oklahoma (A-)
    Round 2 Pick 1: Equanimeous St. Brown, WR, Notre Dame (A-)
    Round 2 Pick 3: Vita Vea, DT, Washington (A-)
    Round 2 Pick 31: Lamar Jackson, QB, Louisville (A-)
    Round 3 Pick 1: Duke Dawson, CB, Florida (A-)
    Round 4 Pick 1: Simmie Cobbs Jr., WR, Indiana (A)
    Round 4 Pick 23: Mike Gesicki, TE, Penn State (A+)
    Round 5 Pick 1: Isaiah Wynn, OG, Georgia (A+)
    Round 5 Pick 22: Bo Scarbrough, RB, Alabama (A+)
    Round 6 Pick 1: Dimitri Flowers, FB, Oklahoma (A)
    Round 7 Pick 1: Daniel Carlson, K, Auburn (A+)

    Your Future Picks:
    2019 Round 1 Pick
    2020 Round 1 Pick

    Tell me what's wrong with this draft? This would be a huge upgrade. 

  • Your Picks:
    Round 1 Pick 1: Saquon Barkley, RB, Penn State (A)
    Round 1 Pick 4: Baker Mayfield, QB, Oklahoma (A-)
    Round 2 Pick 1: Equanimeous St. Brown, WR, Notre Dame (A-)
    Round 2 Pick 3: Vita Vea, DT, Washington (A-)
    Round 2 Pick 31: Lamar Jackson, QB, Louisville (A-)
    Round 3 Pick 1: Duke Dawson, CB, Florida (A-)
    Round 4 Pick 1: Simmie Cobbs Jr., WR, Indiana (A)
    Round 4 Pick 23: Mike Gesicki, TE, Penn State (A+)
    Round 5 Pick 1: Isaiah Wynn, OG, Georgia (A+)
    Round 5 Pick 22: Bo Scarbrough, RB, Alabama (A+)
    Round 6 Pick 1: Dimitri Flowers, FB, Oklahoma (A)
    Round 7 Pick 1: Daniel Carlson, K, Auburn (A+)

    Your Future Picks:
    2019 Round 1 Pick
    2020 Round 1 Pick

    Tell me what's wrong with this draft? This would be a huge upgrade. 

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by

    @poeticg said:

    Your Picks:
    Round 1 Pick 1: Saquon Barkley, RB, Penn State (A)
    Round 1 Pick 4: Baker Mayfield, QB, Oklahoma (A-)
    Round 2 Pick 1: Equanimeous St. Brown, WR, Notre Dame (A-)
    Round 2 Pick 3: Vita Vea, DT, Washington (A-)
    Round 2 Pick 31: Lamar Jackson, QB, Louisville (A-)
    Round 3 Pick 1: Duke Dawson, CB, Florida (A-)
    Round 4 Pick 1: Simmie Cobbs Jr., WR, Indiana (A)
    Round 4 Pick 23: Mike Gesicki, TE, Penn State (A+)
    Round 5 Pick 1: Isaiah Wynn, OG, Georgia (A+)
    Round 5 Pick 22: Bo Scarbrough, RB, Alabama (A+)
    Round 6 Pick 1: Dimitri Flowers, FB, Oklahoma (A)
    Round 7 Pick 1: Daniel Carlson, K, Auburn (A+)

    Your Future Picks:
    2019 Round 1 Pick
    2020 Round 1 Pick

    Tell me what's wrong with this draft? This would be a huge upgrade. 

    The biggest problem with this draft is that it just represents more of your dog slobbering over Barkley.

    Beyond that....even if Barkley were that good...there is no effing way the Browns are going to invest both a first and second round pick on QBs.  And there is no way if they go with Barkley that they will take another RB in round 5..and a fullback in round 6.   And there is no way that they are going to invest another draft pick in a Kicker...even a 7th rounder.

    So...overall...it is just a stupid draft....even if there may be perhaps a few decent picks in there to consider.  You basically ignore our primary needs in the defensive backfield.....and the help that we need at LB.

    So...you wanted an opinion...honest one:   You have come up with a really dumb mock draft. 

  • Your Picks:
    Round 1 Pick 1: Saquon Barkley, RB, Penn State (A)
    Round 1 Pick 4: Baker Mayfield, QB, Oklahoma (A-)
    Round 2 Pick 1: Equanimeous St. Brown, WR, Notre Dame (A-)
    Round 2 Pick 3: Vita Vea, DT, Washington (A-)
    Round 2 Pick 31: Lamar Jackson, QB, Louisville (A-)
    Round 3 Pick 1: Duke Dawson, CB, Florida (A-)
    Round 4 Pick 1: Simmie Cobbs Jr., WR, Indiana (A)
    Round 4 Pick 23: Mike Gesicki, TE, Penn State (A+)
    Round 5 Pick 1: Isaiah Wynn, OG, Georgia (A+)
    Round 5 Pick 22: Bo Scarbrough, RB, Alabama (A+)
    Round 6 Pick 1: Dimitri Flowers, FB, Oklahoma (A)
    Round 7 Pick 1: Daniel Carlson, K, Auburn (A+)

    Your Future Picks:
    2019 Round 1 Pick
    2020 Round 1 Pick

    Tell me what's wrong with this draft? This would be a huge upgrade. 

    PoeticGP PoeticG wrote on last edited by

    @poeticg said:

    Your Picks:
    Round 1 Pick 1: Saquon Barkley, RB, Penn State (A)
    Round 1 Pick 4: Baker Mayfield, QB, Oklahoma (A-)
    Round 2 Pick 1: Equanimeous St. Brown, WR, Notre Dame (A-)
    Round 2 Pick 3: Vita Vea, DT, Washington (A-)
    Round 2 Pick 31: Lamar Jackson, QB, Louisville (A-)
    Round 3 Pick 1: Duke Dawson, CB, Florida (A-)
    Round 4 Pick 1: Simmie Cobbs Jr., WR, Indiana (A)
    Round 4 Pick 23: Mike Gesicki, TE, Penn State (A+)
    Round 5 Pick 1: Isaiah Wynn, OG, Georgia (A+)
    Round 5 Pick 22: Bo Scarbrough, RB, Alabama (A+)
    Round 6 Pick 1: Dimitri Flowers, FB, Oklahoma (A)
    Round 7 Pick 1: Daniel Carlson, K, Auburn (A+)

    Your Future Picks:
    2019 Round 1 Pick
    2020 Round 1 Pick

    Tell me what's wrong with this draft? This would be a huge upgrade. 

    @the-gipper said:

    The biggest problem with this draft is that it just represents more of your dog slobbering over Barkley.

    Beyond that....even if Barkley were that good...there is no effing way the Browns are going to invest both a first and second round pick on QBs.  And there is no way if they go with Barkley that they will take another RB in round 5..and a fullback in round 6.   And there is no way that they are going to invest another draft pick in a Kicker...even a 7th rounder.

    So...overall...it is just a stupid draft....even if there may be perhaps a few decent picks in there to consider.  You basically ignore our primary needs in the defensive backfield.....and the help that we need at LB.

    So...you wanted an opinion...honest one:   You have come up with a really dumb mock draft. 

    1) We get the #1 RB on the draft that many compare to Barry Sanders.

    2) We get your QBOTF in Mayfield and we only take Jackson because he's the BPA. He's a project and he's a damn intriguing prospect, already better than Kizer. 

    3) Why not pick up a player like Bo in the 5th? Even if we take Barkley #1 we should get a bruiser so we don't wear him out to soon. Do you suggest running Duke Johnson up the gut on 4th and inches? We should protect our #1 investment and look for a way to sustain him LONGTERM. 

    4) A FB and a HB are not the same things. Vitale hasn't done much and Flowers is Mayfield's guy. He's a do it all FB and he's an immediate upgrade. 

    5) Gonzales isn't that great, he did better toward the end of the year but it's obvious he needs some competition, Carlson has been a fine kicker with a strong leg. 

    6) We addressed the CB position with DUKE DAWSON. Peppers and Kindred will be fine in the backfield, who do you cut then? McCourty and Taylor and BBC? Wilson should be healthy and looked like a steal before his injury last year. The secondary will be much better once we get the front seven to make an impact. The best way to help the secondary isn't by throwing more players at it but by improving the pass rush causing errant or rushed passes. 

    7) I addressed the front 7 by adding Vita Vea, a monster of a NT. Put him next to Shelton and we have the most Dominant DL in the game. Garrett, Vea, Shelton, Ogbah with Nassib and Orchard subbing in. 

    😎 Wynn was a dominate run blocking OG for Georgia, he'll be good insurance should anything happen to Bitonio or Zeitler. 

    9) I also added TWO HUGE WRS to help compliment Josh Gordon. Think about Gordon, Brown and Cobbs with Coleman and Njoku? The rest of the teams in the NFL are ones who are going to need those secondary players you're slobbering over lol

    What I just gave you is one of the best drafts of all time my friend. Oh, btw, how did it work out for Washington when they took RG3 in the first and then they also drafted Kirk Cousins around where I took Jackson? 

    I even got another TE so we can replace Telfer. 

  • Your Picks:
    Round 1 Pick 1: Saquon Barkley, RB, Penn State (A)
    Round 1 Pick 4: Baker Mayfield, QB, Oklahoma (A-)
    Round 2 Pick 1: Equanimeous St. Brown, WR, Notre Dame (A-)
    Round 2 Pick 3: Vita Vea, DT, Washington (A-)
    Round 2 Pick 31: Lamar Jackson, QB, Louisville (A-)
    Round 3 Pick 1: Duke Dawson, CB, Florida (A-)
    Round 4 Pick 1: Simmie Cobbs Jr., WR, Indiana (A)
    Round 4 Pick 23: Mike Gesicki, TE, Penn State (A+)
    Round 5 Pick 1: Isaiah Wynn, OG, Georgia (A+)
    Round 5 Pick 22: Bo Scarbrough, RB, Alabama (A+)
    Round 6 Pick 1: Dimitri Flowers, FB, Oklahoma (A)
    Round 7 Pick 1: Daniel Carlson, K, Auburn (A+)

    Your Future Picks:
    2019 Round 1 Pick
    2020 Round 1 Pick

    Tell me what's wrong with this draft? This would be a huge upgrade. 

    J JimboJones wrote on last edited by JimboJones

    @poeticg said:

    Your Picks:
    Round 1 Pick 1: Saquon Barkley, RB, Penn State (A)
    Round 1 Pick 4: Baker Mayfield, QB, Oklahoma (A-)
    Round 2 Pick 1: Equanimeous St. Brown, WR, Notre Dame (A-)
    Round 2 Pick 3: Vita Vea, DT, Washington (A-)
    Round 2 Pick 31: Lamar Jackson, QB, Louisville (A-)
    Round 3 Pick 1: Duke Dawson, CB, Florida (A-)
    Round 4 Pick 1: Simmie Cobbs Jr., WR, Indiana (A)
    Round 4 Pick 23: Mike Gesicki, TE, Penn State (A+)
    Round 5 Pick 1: Isaiah Wynn, OG, Georgia (A+)
    Round 5 Pick 22: Bo Scarbrough, RB, Alabama (A+)
    Round 6 Pick 1: Dimitri Flowers, FB, Oklahoma (A)
    Round 7 Pick 1: Daniel Carlson, K, Auburn (A+)

    Your Future Picks:
    2019 Round 1 Pick
    2020 Round 1 Pick

    Tell me what's wrong with this draft? This would be a huge upgrade. 

    Vita Vea will go in the 10-20 range of round 1 and Isaiah Wynn is a late 1st/early 2nd round talent, not a 5th.

  • PoeticGP PoeticG wrote on last edited by PoeticG

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2755786-nfl-draft-2018-order-and-predictions-for-top-prospects-after-super-bowl-52

    Barkley's best skill is his versatility. He can run between the tackles or on the outside, catch passes out of the backfield or stay in and protect the quarterback. He also scored two touchdowns on kickoff returns in 2017.

    Regardless of where he goes, he should become a go-to option in the backfield and an immediate impact player.

    This is exactly what the Giants need to kick-start the offense, especially if Eli Manning remains the team's starting quarterback. He can provide some balance to the roster and turn this talented group into a real threat.

    Prediction: New York Giants

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    - Even said he's better than Gurley and Zeke 🙂 BoOM!! Mic drop