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  • Kvoethe KvoetheK Conversation Starter Dedicated Very Popular Posting Machine Collaborator First Post Reacting Well One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
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    KvoetheK Kvoethe wrote on last edited by
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    I see articles saying the Browns should be blowing up the eagles phone to try to land Foles.    

    Hes a FA after next season.

    I think the Eagles have to pay him.  I have heard Wentz’ recovery lagging behind and he may not be ready for next season.

    Do we overpay for Foles now?  Or still take a shot at the cheaper cousins?  

    Suprised there are no threads already.

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      He'd be a solid choice to lead the team while whatever rookie we draft and kizer continue to develop. 

      Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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        Gunz41G Gunz41 wrote on last edited by
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        Cousins wouldn't be anywhere close to cheaper. Foles looked GREAT and is still relatively young, so IF he could keep up close to that level of play, there would be no need for the rookie

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          There's always need to draft a QB. They should draft one every year without fail until the point they have a franchise player and then continue to draft and move them if need be. 

          Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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            There's always need to draft a QB. They should draft one every year without fail until the point they have a franchise player and then continue to draft and move them if need be. 

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            @the-cysko-kid said:

            There's always need to draft a QB. They should draft one every year without fail until the point they have a franchise player and then continue to draft and move them if need be. 

            IF they got Foles and he was as good as last night, then the QB drafted wouldn't see the field. I'm not saying you don't need to draft one, but the need to get THE guy at the top of draft isn't there. Even if they got Foles, you don't know that he will keep up with how he played, so still get that guy, but if Foles is in Cleveland and becomes a top Franchise QB, then it would end up as a wasted pick.

            You just never know, but IF that happened, Foles is still relatively young and the drafted QB could leave before taking a snap.

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              jiggins7919J jiggins7919 wrote on last edited by
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              Is Foles an unrestricted free agent, or restricted?  There's a large part of me that says there's no way the Eagles will let Foles go because Wentz was severely injured towards the end of the season, and he won't fully be ready to go until September, right?  That means they won't have any established QB to run the team's offense during minicamp, OTA's, and probably all of training camp.  And ACL injuries are funny things.  Sure, most of the time they heal just fine, but there's always that chance Wentz could have a setback, and if they didn't have Foles, they'd be up the creek big time.  Let me do some research on his contract status because that's going to determine a lot.  

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                jiggins7919J jiggins7919 wrote on last edited by
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                Guys, Foles is under contract with the Eagles for $7.6 million in 2018.  He's not coming to Cleveland.

                If the Eagles DO decide to move Foles, it won't be until much later in the year when they've had a chance to monitor Wentz's progress and get a better understanding of his return timetable.  I don't have a date on when Wentz is supposed to return, but I'm pretty sure it's going to be late summer.  Eagles will still need an experienced QB for the offseason, and I really don't see anything happening with Foles for quite some time.  

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                  Is Foles an unrestricted free agent, or restricted?  There's a large part of me that says there's no way the Eagles will let Foles go because Wentz was severely injured towards the end of the season, and he won't fully be ready to go until September, right?  That means they won't have any established QB to run the team's offense during minicamp, OTA's, and probably all of training camp.  And ACL injuries are funny things.  Sure, most of the time they heal just fine, but there's always that chance Wentz could have a setback, and if they didn't have Foles, they'd be up the creek big time.  Let me do some research on his contract status because that's going to determine a lot.  

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                  jrb12711J jrb12711 wrote on last edited by
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                  @jiggins7919 said:

                  Is Foles an unrestricted free agent, or restricted?  There's a large part of me that says there's no way the Eagles will let Foles go because Wentz was severely injured towards the end of the season, and he won't fully be ready to go until September, right?  That means they won't have any established QB to run the team's offense during minicamp, OTA's, and probably all of training camp.  And ACL injuries are funny things.  Sure, most of the time they heal just fine, but there's always that chance Wentz could have a setback, and if they didn't have Foles, they'd be up the creek big time.  Let me do some research on his contract status because that's going to determine a lot.  

                  None of that, he's fully under contract until 2019. We would have to trade to get him, and you know they will be circling around a 1st round pick to send him away.

                  Thing is though, the Eagles just won the whole dang thing and can afford to keep him. They also has the talent coming back to be just as strong as they were this year. Wentz is coming off a recoverable but serious injury, so to me it makes very little sense that they'd trade him away. It goes without saying how much the guy was worth to the team this year.

                  The only incentive the Eagles would have is that they are over the cap for 2018, with a good highlight here: http://www.nj.com/eagles/index.ssf/2018/02/eagles_2018_cap_space_amount_potential_cuts_trades.html. $7.6 million is definitely a ton to pay a back-up, but considering Wentz is still on his rookie deal the position itself is only tied up in about $15 million for next year, which is markedly low for two very capable (and one franchise) players at the most important position on the field.

                  Put simply, unless they reallllllly feel like the cost savings from Foles is worth trading away, I doubt he'll move anywhere. 

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                    Browns1216B Browns1216 wrote on last edited by
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                    Foles is great, but I don't think even Foles would be able to carry the Browns to victory on his own so no sense in throwing everything they have to try to land him here.  Don't underestimate the Eagle's receivers.  There were a few throws where it looked like it would be overthrown, but the Eagles receivers were able to jump up and grab it.  Can't say the same would happen on the Browns.  There were also a few floaters that I thought for sure would get picked off, but the Eagles receivers actually went towards the ball and fought for it.  Plus, that Eagle's O-line and run game are no joke and defense did their job in putting pressure on the GOAT.   Nice job by the Eagles all around, was a much better game than I thought it would be.  I think the Eagles will hold on to Foles until they know for sure Wentz is 100%, no way he's going anywhere especially after last night's performance. 

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                      DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                      Foles would be in a wheelchair by game 3, and philly isn't going to let him leave.

                      "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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                        Foles would be in a wheelchair by game 3, and philly isn't going to let him leave.

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                        nickersN nickers wrote on last edited by
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                        @diehardbrownsfan said:

                        Foles would be in a wheelchair by game 3, and philly isn't going to let him leave.

                        I think we have a better shot at making a play for Wentz...

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                          The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                          I was always a Foles fan.  If you were to look back at posts of mine in year's past you would see where I would have like the Browns to have drafted him....and to have picked him up when he  became a FA.

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                            hx214H hx214 wrote on last edited by hx214
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                            Listening to the radio this morning on 92.3

                            They talked about Foles contract. And if what they say is correct, it's crazy good deal for any team if the Eagles decided to trade him. 

                            The Eagles control his contract through next season. Then he is free to opt out. 

                            However, if they trade him to another team he is locked in for 5 years at a very cheap rate for a QB.  Seems like they made the deal on this contract making it really enticing for another team to trade for him.

                            Watching some of those throws he pulled off last night, If I'm Doresy, I'm on the phone offering one of the 2nd rounders today. But as some of you have pointed too, if Wentz is really behind the 8 ball, then I don't see Philly giving up on him for just a 2nd rounder.

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                              I see articles saying the Browns should be blowing up the eagles phone to try to land Foles.    

                              Hes a FA after next season.

                              I think the Eagles have to pay him.  I have heard Wentz’ recovery lagging behind and he may not be ready for next season.

                              Do we overpay for Foles now?  Or still take a shot at the cheaper cousins?  

                              Suprised there are no threads already.

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                              FlugelF Flugel wrote on last edited by
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                              @kvoethe said:

                              I see articles saying the Browns should be blowing up the eagles phone to try to land Foles.    

                              Hes a FA after next season.

                              I think the Eagles have to pay him.  I have heard Wentz’ recovery lagging behind and he may not be ready for next season.

                              Do we overpay for Foles now?  Or still take a shot at the cheaper cousins?  

                              Suprised there are no threads already.

                              According to ESPN's scroll today, the Washington Redskins are considering putting a franchise tag of Kirk Cousins again this year. This would mean any team interested in pursuing him would now need to trade for him and part with a draft pick or player or both.

                              I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!"
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                                @kvoethe said:

                                I see articles saying the Browns should be blowing up the eagles phone to try to land Foles.    

                                Hes a FA after next season.

                                I think the Eagles have to pay him.  I have heard Wentz’ recovery lagging behind and he may not be ready for next season.

                                Do we overpay for Foles now?  Or still take a shot at the cheaper cousins?  

                                Suprised there are no threads already.

                                According to ESPN's scroll today, the Washington Redskins are considering putting a franchise tag of Kirk Cousins again this year. This would mean any team interested in pursuing him would now need to trade for him and part with a draft pick or player or both.

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                                The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                                @flugel said:

                                According to ESPN's scroll today, the Washington Redskins are considering putting a franchise tag of Kirk Cousins again this year. This would mean any team interested in pursuing him would now need to trade for him and part with a draft pick or player or both.

                                AND pay the 34 million or whatever franchise tag rate.

                                I say:  NYET

                                I would rather make a deal for Foles.  As I have said...I have always liked him better as a QB.

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                                  @flugel said:

                                  According to ESPN's scroll today, the Washington Redskins are considering putting a franchise tag of Kirk Cousins again this year. This would mean any team interested in pursuing him would now need to trade for him and part with a draft pick or player or both.

                                  AND pay the 34 million or whatever franchise tag rate.

                                  I say:  NYET

                                  I would rather make a deal for Foles.  As I have said...I have always liked him better as a QB.

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                                  FlugelF Flugel wrote on last edited by
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                                  @the-gipper said:

                                  AND pay the 34 million or whatever franchise tag rate.

                                  I say:  NYET

                                  I would rather make a deal for Foles.  As I have said...I have always liked him better as a QB.


                                  I know.  It would be nice if we could offer Foles or whoever we end up with a WR Corps like Philly had for their QBs and a system compatible to his wiring/strengths.

                                  With over 100 million $ of spending money and only 1 Win to show for our last 32 outings - it's about time our FO goes Alpha Dawg on bringing in some play makers here.

                                  I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!"
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                                    @the-gipper said:

                                    AND pay the 34 million or whatever franchise tag rate.

                                    I say:  NYET

                                    I would rather make a deal for Foles.  As I have said...I have always liked him better as a QB.


                                    I know.  It would be nice if we could offer Foles or whoever we end up with a WR Corps like Philly had for their QBs and a system compatible to his wiring/strengths.

                                    With over 100 million $ of spending money and only 1 Win to show for our last 32 outings - it's about time our FO goes Alpha Dawg on bringing in some play makers here.

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                                    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by The Gipper
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                                    @flugel said:


                                    I know.  It would be nice if we could offer Foles or whoever we end up with a WR Corps like Philly had for their QBs and a system compatible to his wiring/strengths.

                                    With over 100 million $ of spending money and only 1 Win to show for our last 32 outings - it's about time our FO goes Alpha Dawg on bringing in some play makers here.

                                    I also thought that we should have grabbed Nelson Agholor in the 2015 draft.   Instead....one pick ahead of him the Browns took  freeking Cam Erving.  Talk about another effup.

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                                      @flugel said:


                                      I know.  It would be nice if we could offer Foles or whoever we end up with a WR Corps like Philly had for their QBs and a system compatible to his wiring/strengths.

                                      With over 100 million $ of spending money and only 1 Win to show for our last 32 outings - it's about time our FO goes Alpha Dawg on bringing in some play makers here.

                                      I also thought that we should have grabbed Nelson Agholor in the 2015 draft.   Instead....one pick ahead of him the Browns took  freeking Cam Erving.  Talk about another effup.

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                                      @the-gipper said:

                                      I also thought that we should have grabbed Nelson Agholor in the 2015 draft.   Instead....one pick ahead of him the Browns took  freeking Cam Erving.  Talk about another effup.

                                      Now I am sick (insert throw-up icon from the Browns Tavern).😵

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                                          @7moses7 said:

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                                          Thanks. I feel better now.😉

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