No Foles talk
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Is Foles an unrestricted free agent, or restricted? There's a large part of me that says there's no way the Eagles will let Foles go because Wentz was severely injured towards the end of the season, and he won't fully be ready to go until September, right? That means they won't have any established QB to run the team's offense during minicamp, OTA's, and probably all of training camp. And ACL injuries are funny things. Sure, most of the time they heal just fine, but there's always that chance Wentz could have a setback, and if they didn't have Foles, they'd be up the creek big time. Let me do some research on his contract status because that's going to determine a lot.
Is Foles an unrestricted free agent, or restricted? There's a large part of me that says there's no way the Eagles will let Foles go because Wentz was severely injured towards the end of the season, and he won't fully be ready to go until September, right? That means they won't have any established QB to run the team's offense during minicamp, OTA's, and probably all of training camp. And ACL injuries are funny things. Sure, most of the time they heal just fine, but there's always that chance Wentz could have a setback, and if they didn't have Foles, they'd be up the creek big time. Let me do some research on his contract status because that's going to determine a lot.
None of that, he's fully under contract until 2019. We would have to trade to get him, and you know they will be circling around a 1st round pick to send him away.
Thing is though, the Eagles just won the whole dang thing and can afford to keep him. They also has the talent coming back to be just as strong as they were this year. Wentz is coming off a recoverable but serious injury, so to me it makes very little sense that they'd trade him away. It goes without saying how much the guy was worth to the team this year.
The only incentive the Eagles would have is that they are over the cap for 2018, with a good highlight here: http://www.nj.com/eagles/index.ssf/2018/02/eagles_2018_cap_space_amount_potential_cuts_trades.html. $7.6 million is definitely a ton to pay a back-up, but considering Wentz is still on his rookie deal the position itself is only tied up in about $15 million for next year, which is markedly low for two very capable (and one franchise) players at the most important position on the field.
Put simply, unless they reallllllly feel like the cost savings from Foles is worth trading away, I doubt he'll move anywhere.
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Foles is great, but I don't think even Foles would be able to carry the Browns to victory on his own so no sense in throwing everything they have to try to land him here. Don't underestimate the Eagle's receivers. There were a few throws where it looked like it would be overthrown, but the Eagles receivers were able to jump up and grab it. Can't say the same would happen on the Browns. There were also a few floaters that I thought for sure would get picked off, but the Eagles receivers actually went towards the ball and fought for it. Plus, that Eagle's O-line and run game are no joke and defense did their job in putting pressure on the GOAT. Nice job by the Eagles all around, was a much better game than I thought it would be. I think the Eagles will hold on to Foles until they know for sure Wentz is 100%, no way he's going anywhere especially after last night's performance.
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Foles would be in a wheelchair by game 3, and philly isn't going to let him leave.
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Foles would be in a wheelchair by game 3, and philly isn't going to let him leave.
Foles would be in a wheelchair by game 3, and philly isn't going to let him leave.
I think we have a better shot at making a play for Wentz...
Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~ -
I was always a Foles fan. If you were to look back at posts of mine in year's past you would see where I would have like the Browns to have drafted him....and to have picked him up when he became a FA.
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Listening to the radio this morning on 92.3
They talked about Foles contract. And if what they say is correct, it's crazy good deal for any team if the Eagles decided to trade him.
The Eagles control his contract through next season. Then he is free to opt out.
However, if they trade him to another team he is locked in for 5 years at a very cheap rate for a QB. Seems like they made the deal on this contract making it really enticing for another team to trade for him.
Watching some of those throws he pulled off last night, If I'm Doresy, I'm on the phone offering one of the 2nd rounders today. But as some of you have pointed too, if Wentz is really behind the 8 ball, then I don't see Philly giving up on him for just a 2nd rounder.
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I see articles saying the Browns should be blowing up the eagles phone to try to land Foles.
Hes a FA after next season.
I think the Eagles have to pay him. I have heard Wentz’ recovery lagging behind and he may not be ready for next season.
Do we overpay for Foles now? Or still take a shot at the cheaper cousins?
Suprised there are no threads already.
I see articles saying the Browns should be blowing up the eagles phone to try to land Foles.
Hes a FA after next season.
I think the Eagles have to pay him. I have heard Wentz’ recovery lagging behind and he may not be ready for next season.
Do we overpay for Foles now? Or still take a shot at the cheaper cousins?
Suprised there are no threads already.
According to ESPN's scroll today, the Washington Redskins are considering putting a franchise tag of Kirk Cousins again this year. This would mean any team interested in pursuing him would now need to trade for him and part with a draft pick or player or both.
I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!" -
I see articles saying the Browns should be blowing up the eagles phone to try to land Foles.
Hes a FA after next season.
I think the Eagles have to pay him. I have heard Wentz’ recovery lagging behind and he may not be ready for next season.
Do we overpay for Foles now? Or still take a shot at the cheaper cousins?
Suprised there are no threads already.
According to ESPN's scroll today, the Washington Redskins are considering putting a franchise tag of Kirk Cousins again this year. This would mean any team interested in pursuing him would now need to trade for him and part with a draft pick or player or both.
According to ESPN's scroll today, the Washington Redskins are considering putting a franchise tag of Kirk Cousins again this year. This would mean any team interested in pursuing him would now need to trade for him and part with a draft pick or player or both.
AND pay the 34 million or whatever franchise tag rate.
I say: NYET
I would rather make a deal for Foles. As I have said...I have always liked him better as a QB.
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According to ESPN's scroll today, the Washington Redskins are considering putting a franchise tag of Kirk Cousins again this year. This would mean any team interested in pursuing him would now need to trade for him and part with a draft pick or player or both.
AND pay the 34 million or whatever franchise tag rate.
I say: NYET
I would rather make a deal for Foles. As I have said...I have always liked him better as a QB.
AND pay the 34 million or whatever franchise tag rate.
I say: NYET
I would rather make a deal for Foles. As I have said...I have always liked him better as a QB.
I know. It would be nice if we could offer Foles or whoever we end up with a WR Corps like Philly had for their QBs and a system compatible to his wiring/strengths.With over 100 million $ of spending money and only 1 Win to show for our last 32 outings - it's about time our FO goes Alpha Dawg on bringing in some play makers here.
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AND pay the 34 million or whatever franchise tag rate.
I say: NYET
I would rather make a deal for Foles. As I have said...I have always liked him better as a QB.
I know. It would be nice if we could offer Foles or whoever we end up with a WR Corps like Philly had for their QBs and a system compatible to his wiring/strengths.With over 100 million $ of spending money and only 1 Win to show for our last 32 outings - it's about time our FO goes Alpha Dawg on bringing in some play makers here.
I know. It would be nice if we could offer Foles or whoever we end up with a WR Corps like Philly had for their QBs and a system compatible to his wiring/strengths.With over 100 million $ of spending money and only 1 Win to show for our last 32 outings - it's about time our FO goes Alpha Dawg on bringing in some play makers here.
I also thought that we should have grabbed Nelson Agholor in the 2015 draft. Instead....one pick ahead of him the Browns took freeking Cam Erving. Talk about another effup.
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I know. It would be nice if we could offer Foles or whoever we end up with a WR Corps like Philly had for their QBs and a system compatible to his wiring/strengths.With over 100 million $ of spending money and only 1 Win to show for our last 32 outings - it's about time our FO goes Alpha Dawg on bringing in some play makers here.
I also thought that we should have grabbed Nelson Agholor in the 2015 draft. Instead....one pick ahead of him the Browns took freeking Cam Erving. Talk about another effup.
I also thought that we should have grabbed Nelson Agholor in the 2015 draft. Instead....one pick ahead of him the Browns took freeking Cam Erving. Talk about another effup.
Now I am sick (insert throw-up icon from the Browns Tavern).
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I see articles saying the Browns should be blowing up the eagles phone to try to land Foles.
Hes a FA after next season.
I think the Eagles have to pay him. I have heard Wentz’ recovery lagging behind and he may not be ready for next season.
Do we overpay for Foles now? Or still take a shot at the cheaper cousins?
Suprised there are no threads already.
According to ESPN's scroll today, the Washington Redskins are considering putting a franchise tag of Kirk Cousins again this year. This would mean any team interested in pursuing him would now need to trade for him and part with a draft pick or player or both.
According to ESPN's scroll today, the Washington Redskins are considering putting a franchise tag of Kirk Cousins again this year. This would mean any team interested in pursuing him would now need to trade for him and part with a draft pick or player or both.
Couldn't teams just call their bluff and make them eat the $34 million in addition to paying Alex Smith? I'm assuming it wouldn't ever happen because there are teams that are desperate for a competent QB, but it sure'd be funny to see nobody trade with the Skins and watch them struggle with the cap after signing Smith. Hahaha.
As I look through the teams in the NFL, I actually don't see too many that absolutely don't have a starting QB. About the only ones I see are the Broncos, Cardinals, Jets, and POSSIBLY Fins, right? There are a few other teams with starting QB's who will be retiring soon (Bolts, Giants, etc), but I only counted 4 teams that must have someone immediately. So if the Redskins DO franchise Cousins, that could possibly change things big time. I just wonder how greedy the Redskins would be with their trade demands, ya know? I'm struggling to think of a comparable situation in recent league history, and I'm not really coming up with any. What if Washington asks for our #4 pick? Before you say that's insane, let me ask you this: What would be the difference in drafting an unproven, rookie QB at #1 or #4, versus trading the #4 pick for a proven QB and someone who would be starting right away?
Now, to me, our first rounders are off the table, but I'm not sure why I feel that way considering we'd be getting a QB we KNOW can play. We trade the #4 for Cousins (contingent on contract extension, obviously) and we still get to draft the #1 overall player on our board. So we get our starting QB, the best prospect in the entire draft, we still have THREE second rounders, and we still have enough money to go after other free agents.
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I see articles saying the Browns should be blowing up the eagles phone to try to land Foles.
Hes a FA after next season.
I think the Eagles have to pay him. I have heard Wentz’ recovery lagging behind and he may not be ready for next season.
Do we overpay for Foles now? Or still take a shot at the cheaper cousins?
Suprised there are no threads already.
According to ESPN's scroll today, the Washington Redskins are considering putting a franchise tag of Kirk Cousins again this year. This would mean any team interested in pursuing him would now need to trade for him and part with a draft pick or player or both.
According to ESPN's scroll today, the Washington Redskins are considering putting a franchise tag of Kirk Cousins again this year. This would mean any team interested in pursuing him would now need to trade for him and part with a draft pick or player or both.
Shame on ESPN, I would call BS on Washington putting the franchise tag on Kirk Cousins after they paid a boatload of money for Alex Smith.
Look at their cap space WITHOUT Cousins' salary figured in. . .
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According to ESPN's scroll today, the Washington Redskins are considering putting a franchise tag of Kirk Cousins again this year. This would mean any team interested in pursuing him would now need to trade for him and part with a draft pick or player or both.
Couldn't teams just call their bluff and make them eat the $34 million in addition to paying Alex Smith? I'm assuming it wouldn't ever happen because there are teams that are desperate for a competent QB, but it sure'd be funny to see nobody trade with the Skins and watch them struggle with the cap after signing Smith. Hahaha.
As I look through the teams in the NFL, I actually don't see too many that absolutely don't have a starting QB. About the only ones I see are the Broncos, Cardinals, Jets, and POSSIBLY Fins, right? There are a few other teams with starting QB's who will be retiring soon (Bolts, Giants, etc), but I only counted 4 teams that must have someone immediately. So if the Redskins DO franchise Cousins, that could possibly change things big time. I just wonder how greedy the Redskins would be with their trade demands, ya know? I'm struggling to think of a comparable situation in recent league history, and I'm not really coming up with any. What if Washington asks for our #4 pick? Before you say that's insane, let me ask you this: What would be the difference in drafting an unproven, rookie QB at #1 or #4, versus trading the #4 pick for a proven QB and someone who would be starting right away?
Now, to me, our first rounders are off the table, but I'm not sure why I feel that way considering we'd be getting a QB we KNOW can play. We trade the #4 for Cousins (contingent on contract extension, obviously) and we still get to draft the #1 overall player on our board. So we get our starting QB, the best prospect in the entire draft, we still have THREE second rounders, and we still have enough money to go after other free agents.
Couldn't teams just call their bluff and make them eat the $34 million in addition to paying Alex Smith? I'm assuming it wouldn't ever happen because there are teams that are desperate for a competent QB, but it sure'd be funny to see nobody trade with the Skins and watch them struggle with the cap after signing Smith. Hahaha.
As I look through the teams in the NFL, I actually don't see too many that absolutely don't have a starting QB. About the only ones I see are the Broncos, Cardinals, Jets, and POSSIBLY Fins, right? There are a few other teams with starting QB's who will be retiring soon (Bolts, Giants, etc), but I only counted 4 teams that must have someone immediately. So if the Redskins DO franchise Cousins, that could possibly change things big time. I just wonder how greedy the Redskins would be with their trade demands, ya know? I'm struggling to think of a comparable situation in recent league history, and I'm not really coming up with any. What if Washington asks for our #4 pick? Before you say that's insane, let me ask you this: What would be the difference in drafting an unproven, rookie QB at #1 or #4, versus trading the #4 pick for a proven QB and someone who would be starting right away?
Now, to me, our first rounders are off the table, but I'm not sure why I feel that way considering we'd be getting a QB we KNOW can play. We trade the #4 for Cousins (contingent on contract extension, obviously) and we still get to draft the #1 overall player on our board. So we get our starting QB, the best prospect in the entire draft, we still have THREE second rounders, and we still have enough money to go after other free agents.
I mean A LOT of NFL deals are done on "hand-shake" agreement basis. The Redskins would never in a million years pay Kirk that type of money unless they had such an agreement. While of course a team COULD back out of such an arrangement, that team/GM would literally have no credibility left to any NFL franchise. No team would ever do that on this scale.
In that regard, it's not "irresponsible" to report they might do that-it's a very real possibility.
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According to ESPN's scroll today, the Washington Redskins are considering putting a franchise tag of Kirk Cousins again this year. This would mean any team interested in pursuing him would now need to trade for him and part with a draft pick or player or both.
Couldn't teams just call their bluff and make them eat the $34 million in addition to paying Alex Smith? I'm assuming it wouldn't ever happen because there are teams that are desperate for a competent QB, but it sure'd be funny to see nobody trade with the Skins and watch them struggle with the cap after signing Smith. Hahaha.
As I look through the teams in the NFL, I actually don't see too many that absolutely don't have a starting QB. About the only ones I see are the Broncos, Cardinals, Jets, and POSSIBLY Fins, right? There are a few other teams with starting QB's who will be retiring soon (Bolts, Giants, etc), but I only counted 4 teams that must have someone immediately. So if the Redskins DO franchise Cousins, that could possibly change things big time. I just wonder how greedy the Redskins would be with their trade demands, ya know? I'm struggling to think of a comparable situation in recent league history, and I'm not really coming up with any. What if Washington asks for our #4 pick? Before you say that's insane, let me ask you this: What would be the difference in drafting an unproven, rookie QB at #1 or #4, versus trading the #4 pick for a proven QB and someone who would be starting right away?
Now, to me, our first rounders are off the table, but I'm not sure why I feel that way considering we'd be getting a QB we KNOW can play. We trade the #4 for Cousins (contingent on contract extension, obviously) and we still get to draft the #1 overall player on our board. So we get our starting QB, the best prospect in the entire draft, we still have THREE second rounders, and we still have enough money to go after other free agents.
Couldn't teams just call their bluff and make them eat the $34 million in addition to paying Alex Smith? I'm assuming it wouldn't ever happen because there are teams that are desperate for a competent QB, but it sure'd be funny to see nobody trade with the Skins and watch them struggle with the cap after signing Smith. Hahaha.
As I look through the teams in the NFL, I actually don't see too many that absolutely don't have a starting QB. About the only ones I see are the Broncos, Cardinals, Jets, and POSSIBLY Fins, right? There are a few other teams with starting QB's who will be retiring soon (Bolts, Giants, etc), but I only counted 4 teams that must have someone immediately. So if the Redskins DO franchise Cousins, that could possibly change things big time. I just wonder how greedy the Redskins would be with their trade demands, ya know? I'm struggling to think of a comparable situation in recent league history, and I'm not really coming up with any. What if Washington asks for our #4 pick? Before you say that's insane, let me ask you this: What would be the difference in drafting an unproven, rookie QB at #1 or #4, versus trading the #4 pick for a proven QB and someone who would be starting right away?
Now, to me, our first rounders are off the table, but I'm not sure why I feel that way considering we'd be getting a QB we KNOW can play. We trade the #4 for Cousins (contingent on contract extension, obviously) and we still get to draft the #1 overall player on our board. So we get our starting QB, the best prospect in the entire draft, we still have THREE second rounders, and we still have enough money to go after other free agents.
One major difference is the money you pay a rookie vs Cousins
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Guy had two good games and you guys want to anoint him. Just like you anointed Wentz. They clearly have something there other than a QB....
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Guy had two good games and you guys want to anoint him. Just like you anointed Wentz. They clearly have something there other than a QB....
Guy had two good games and you guys want to anoint him. Just like you anointed Wentz. They clearly have something there other than a QB....
See above....I had said that I always liked Foles. I had wanted the Browns to draft him. And I had thought that they should pick him up when he was bouncing around the league.
Why? Accuracy.
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