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  • @skippinturtles said:

    He's a tackle-for-loss machine.  Last guy like that was Khalil Mack.  Mack wasn't a pass rusher out of college

    Stopped reading here. 

    @tiamat63 said:

    Stopped reading here. 

    don't stop watching the video- this kid is the real deal.

  • @tiamat63 said:

    Stopped reading here. 

    Tackles-for-loss is an underrated stat.  Khalil Mack had the most all-time in college.  At Buffalo, Mack was strictly a bull-rusher.  But his potential was undeniable.  Just like Edmunds.  Don't pass on this kid.

    @skippinturtles said:

    Tackles-for-loss is an underrated stat.  Khalil Mack had the most all-time in college.  At Buffalo, Mack was strictly a bull-rusher.  But his potential was undeniable.  Just like Edmunds.  Don't pass on this kid.

    Taylor Decker would disagree with you.  While I'm at it, as  would every other scout on this planet including myself that saw possibly one of the most technically refined pass rushers to enter the draft in a long while.   Kahlil was one of the few that actually had a couple moves in his arsenal - go look up his pressure rate from his rookie year.  It's hard to believe those numbers.  

  • @skippinturtles said:

    Tackles-for-loss is an underrated stat.  Khalil Mack had the most all-time in college.  At Buffalo, Mack was strictly a bull-rusher.  But his potential was undeniable.  Just like Edmunds.  Don't pass on this kid.

    Taylor Decker would disagree with you.  While I'm at it, as  would every other scout on this planet including myself that saw possibly one of the most technically refined pass rushers to enter the draft in a long while.   Kahlil was one of the few that actually had a couple moves in his arsenal - go look up his pressure rate from his rookie year.  It's hard to believe those numbers.  

    @tiamat63 said:

    Taylor Decker would disagree with you.  While I'm at it, as  would every other scout on this planet including myself that saw possibly one of the most technically refined pass rushers to enter the draft in a long while.   Kahlil was one of the few that actually had a couple moves in his arsenal - go look up his pressure rate from his rookie year.  It's hard to believe those numbers.  

    I love Khalil Mack.  I didn't remember him having a ton of pass-rush moves in college, just that he was a freak athlete who dominated lower-level competion.  Ohio State game aside.  That said, Edmunds looks legit.

  • @tiamat63 said:

    Taylor Decker would disagree with you.  While I'm at it, as  would every other scout on this planet including myself that saw possibly one of the most technically refined pass rushers to enter the draft in a long while.   Kahlil was one of the few that actually had a couple moves in his arsenal - go look up his pressure rate from his rookie year.  It's hard to believe those numbers.  

    I love Khalil Mack.  I didn't remember him having a ton of pass-rush moves in college, just that he was a freak athlete who dominated lower-level competion.  Ohio State game aside.  That said, Edmunds looks legit.

    @skippinturtles said:

    I love Khalil Mack.  I didn't remember him having a ton of pass-rush moves in college, just that he dominated lower-level competition and was a freak athlete.  Ohio State game aside.  That said, Edmunds looks legit.

    Then you didn't watch him.

    Also you're comparing Kahlil, a 2pt OLB/DE to Tremaine, whom I'm currently watching vs Clemson right now - and is deployed in a completely different manner being that he's a completely different player.    

    How in the crickey Shmuck did you even come up with this comparison other than just seeing the TFL numbers?

  • @skippinturtles said:

    I love Khalil Mack.  I didn't remember him having a ton of pass-rush moves in college, just that he dominated lower-level competition and was a freak athlete.  Ohio State game aside.  That said, Edmunds looks legit.

    Then you didn't watch him.

    Also you're comparing Kahlil, a 2pt OLB/DE to Tremaine, whom I'm currently watching vs Clemson right now - and is deployed in a completely different manner being that he's a completely different player.    

    How in the crickey Shmuck did you even come up with this comparison other than just seeing the TFL numbers?

    @tiamat63 said:

    Then you didn't watch him.

    Also you're comparing Kahlil, a 2pt OLB/DE to Tremaine, whom I'm currently watching vs Clemson right now - and is deployed in a completely different manner being that he's a completely different player.    

    How in the crickey Shmuck did you even come up with this comparison other than just seeing the TFL numbers?

    Forget Mack, what do you think about Edmunds?

  • @tiamat63 said:

    Then you didn't watch him.

    Also you're comparing Kahlil, a 2pt OLB/DE to Tremaine, whom I'm currently watching vs Clemson right now - and is deployed in a completely different manner being that he's a completely different player.    

    How in the crickey Shmuck did you even come up with this comparison other than just seeing the TFL numbers?

    Forget Mack, what do you think about Edmunds?

    @skippinturtles said:

    Forget Mack, what do you think about Edmunds?

    I'm 2 minutes into my first game with him...  I'll get back to you in a week or so.   Between a family member dying, the flu, work, etc etc... I'm back logged AF right now.   I'm still trying to get my Barkley piece done.  

  • @skippinturtles said:

    Forget Mack, what do you think about Edmunds?

    I'm 2 minutes into my first game with him...  I'll get back to you in a week or so.   Between a family member dying, the flu, work, etc etc... I'm back logged AF right now.   I'm still trying to get my Barkley piece done.  

    @tiamat63 said:

    I'm 2 minutes into my first game with him...  I'll get back to you in a week or so.   Between a family member dying, the flu, work, etc etc... I'm back logged AF right now.   I'm still trying to get my Barkley piece done.  

    Best of luck.  Any initial thoughts?

  • @tiamat63 said:

    I'm 2 minutes into my first game with him...  I'll get back to you in a week or so.   Between a family member dying, the flu, work, etc etc... I'm back logged AF right now.   I'm still trying to get my Barkley piece done.  

    Best of luck.  Any initial thoughts?

    @skippinturtles said:

    Best of luck.  Any initial thoughts?

    Yeah, he's not Kahlil.  

  • @skippinturtles said:

    Best of luck.  Any initial thoughts?

    Yeah, he's not Kahlil.  

    @tiamat63 said:

    Yeah, he's not Kahlil.  

    Duly noted.  If you are an actual scout, is Edmunds worth the #4 pick?

  • @tiamat63 said:

    Stopped reading here. 

    don't stop watching the video- this kid is the real deal.

    @calfoxwc said:

    don't stop watching the video- this kid is the real deal.

    Realer than Real Deal Holyfield.

  • @tiamat63 said:

    Yeah, he's not Kahlil.  

    Duly noted.  If you are an actual scout, is Edmunds worth the #4 pick?

    @skippinturtles said:

    Duly noted.  If you are an actual scout, is Edmunds worth the #4 pick?

    If you look at what the Browns have at LB, I wouldn't take Edmunds @ #4.  We're going to be counting on Garrett and Ogbah to supply qb pressure, and the defensive secondary is higher priority. With a couple guys rated just as high at their respective positions. 

  • @skippinturtles said:

    Duly noted.  If you are an actual scout, is Edmunds worth the #4 pick?

    If you look at what the Browns have at LB, I wouldn't take Edmunds @ #4.  We're going to be counting on Garrett and Ogbah to supply qb pressure, and the defensive secondary is higher priority. With a couple guys rated just as high at their respective positions. 

    @hoorta said:

    If you look at what the Browns have at LB, I wouldn't take Edmunds @ #4.  We're going to be counting on Garrett and Ogbah to supply qb pressure, and the defensive secondary is higher priority. With a couple guys rated just as high at their respective positions. 

    Wouldn't Edmunds be a perfect long-armed inside linebacker who disrupts passing lanes, covers tight ends and running backs and stuffs the run?

  • @hoorta said:

    If you look at what the Browns have at LB, I wouldn't take Edmunds @ #4.  We're going to be counting on Garrett and Ogbah to supply qb pressure, and the defensive secondary is higher priority. With a couple guys rated just as high at their respective positions. 

    Wouldn't Edmunds be a perfect long-armed inside linebacker who disrupts passing lanes, covers tight ends and running backs and stuffs the run?

    @skippinturtles said:

    Wouldn't Edmunds be a perfect long-armed inside linebacker who disrupts passing lanes, covers tight ends and running backs and stuffs the run?

    Schobert made the pro bowl and there are much more pressing matters. There is no FS on the roster, the corners are subpar, Coleman is made of glass, Gordon can't stay off the weed, etc. Linebacker is not high on the glaring needs.

  • @hoorta said:

    If you look at what the Browns have at LB, I wouldn't take Edmunds @ #4.  We're going to be counting on Garrett and Ogbah to supply qb pressure, and the defensive secondary is higher priority. With a couple guys rated just as high at their respective positions. 

    Wouldn't Edmunds be a perfect long-armed inside linebacker who disrupts passing lanes, covers tight ends and running backs and stuffs the run?

    @skippinturtles said:

    Wouldn't Edmunds be a perfect long-armed inside linebacker who disrupts passing lanes, covers tight ends and running backs and stuffs the run?

    Would take Chubb 8 days a week over Edmunds right now.    Or probably any linebacker for that matter.

  • @skippinturtles said:

    Wouldn't Edmunds be a perfect long-armed inside linebacker who disrupts passing lanes, covers tight ends and running backs and stuffs the run?

    Would take Chubb 8 days a week over Edmunds right now.    Or probably any linebacker for that matter.

    @tiamat63 said:

    Would take Chubb 8 days a week over Edmunds right now.    Or probably any linebacker for that matter.

    You're the scout.  Is Chubb a bigger Mack?

  • @tiamat63 said:

    Would take Chubb 8 days a week over Edmunds right now.    Or probably any linebacker for that matter.

    You're the scout.  Is Chubb a bigger Mack?

    @skippinturtles said:

    You're the scout.  Is Chubb a bigger Mack?

    I swear to Christ Almighty, if you say Mack one more time....  

  • @skippinturtles said:

    You're the scout.  Is Chubb a bigger Mack?

    I swear to Christ Almighty, if you say Mack one more time....  

    @tiamat63 said:

    I swear to Christ Almighty, if you say Mack one more time....  

    My bad.  Really just wanted to throw Edmunds into the conversation at #4.  

  • @skippinturtles said:

    Duly noted.  If you are an actual scout, is Edmunds worth the #4 pick?

    If you look at what the Browns have at LB, I wouldn't take Edmunds @ #4.  We're going to be counting on Garrett and Ogbah to supply qb pressure, and the defensive secondary is higher priority. With a couple guys rated just as high at their respective positions. 

    @hoorta said:

    If you look at what the Browns have at LB, I wouldn't take Edmunds @ #4.  We're going to be counting on Garrett and Ogbah to supply qb pressure, and the defensive secondary is higher priority. With a couple guys rated just as high at their respective positions. 

    Wouldn't Edmunds make the LB corps the best in the division?  He seems like a perfect fit at ILB.  Making plays all over the field, against the run and pass.

  • @tiamat63 said:

    Would take Chubb 8 days a week over Edmunds right now.    Or probably any linebacker for that matter.

    You're the scout.  Is Chubb a bigger Mack?

    @skippinturtles said:

    You're the scout.  Is Chubb a bigger Mack?

    Its Big Mac ....come on man get your burgers right

  • the top two choices have to be dramatic impact players. as in, dramatic improvement to your football team.

    Edmunds is very, very good - but adding a FS/CB/QB (the right ones) would be far more dramatic than adding a lb,

    due to serious needs.