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  • @skippinturtles said:

    Duly noted.  If you are an actual scout, is Edmunds worth the #4 pick?

    If you look at what the Browns have at LB, I wouldn't take Edmunds @ #4.  We're going to be counting on Garrett and Ogbah to supply qb pressure, and the defensive secondary is higher priority. With a couple guys rated just as high at their respective positions. 

    @hoorta said:

    If you look at what the Browns have at LB, I wouldn't take Edmunds @ #4.  We're going to be counting on Garrett and Ogbah to supply qb pressure, and the defensive secondary is higher priority. With a couple guys rated just as high at their respective positions. 

    Wouldn't Edmunds be a perfect long-armed inside linebacker who disrupts passing lanes, covers tight ends and running backs and stuffs the run?

  • @hoorta said:

    If you look at what the Browns have at LB, I wouldn't take Edmunds @ #4.  We're going to be counting on Garrett and Ogbah to supply qb pressure, and the defensive secondary is higher priority. With a couple guys rated just as high at their respective positions. 

    Wouldn't Edmunds be a perfect long-armed inside linebacker who disrupts passing lanes, covers tight ends and running backs and stuffs the run?

    @skippinturtles said:

    Wouldn't Edmunds be a perfect long-armed inside linebacker who disrupts passing lanes, covers tight ends and running backs and stuffs the run?

    Schobert made the pro bowl and there are much more pressing matters. There is no FS on the roster, the corners are subpar, Coleman is made of glass, Gordon can't stay off the weed, etc. Linebacker is not high on the glaring needs.

  • @hoorta said:

    If you look at what the Browns have at LB, I wouldn't take Edmunds @ #4.  We're going to be counting on Garrett and Ogbah to supply qb pressure, and the defensive secondary is higher priority. With a couple guys rated just as high at their respective positions. 

    Wouldn't Edmunds be a perfect long-armed inside linebacker who disrupts passing lanes, covers tight ends and running backs and stuffs the run?

    @skippinturtles said:

    Wouldn't Edmunds be a perfect long-armed inside linebacker who disrupts passing lanes, covers tight ends and running backs and stuffs the run?

    Would take Chubb 8 days a week over Edmunds right now.    Or probably any linebacker for that matter.

  • @skippinturtles said:

    Wouldn't Edmunds be a perfect long-armed inside linebacker who disrupts passing lanes, covers tight ends and running backs and stuffs the run?

    Would take Chubb 8 days a week over Edmunds right now.    Or probably any linebacker for that matter.

    @tiamat63 said:

    Would take Chubb 8 days a week over Edmunds right now.    Or probably any linebacker for that matter.

    You're the scout.  Is Chubb a bigger Mack?

  • @tiamat63 said:

    Would take Chubb 8 days a week over Edmunds right now.    Or probably any linebacker for that matter.

    You're the scout.  Is Chubb a bigger Mack?

    @skippinturtles said:

    You're the scout.  Is Chubb a bigger Mack?

    I swear to Christ Almighty, if you say Mack one more time....  

  • @skippinturtles said:

    You're the scout.  Is Chubb a bigger Mack?

    I swear to Christ Almighty, if you say Mack one more time....  

    @tiamat63 said:

    I swear to Christ Almighty, if you say Mack one more time....  

    My bad.  Really just wanted to throw Edmunds into the conversation at #4.  

  • @skippinturtles said:

    Duly noted.  If you are an actual scout, is Edmunds worth the #4 pick?

    If you look at what the Browns have at LB, I wouldn't take Edmunds @ #4.  We're going to be counting on Garrett and Ogbah to supply qb pressure, and the defensive secondary is higher priority. With a couple guys rated just as high at their respective positions. 

    @hoorta said:

    If you look at what the Browns have at LB, I wouldn't take Edmunds @ #4.  We're going to be counting on Garrett and Ogbah to supply qb pressure, and the defensive secondary is higher priority. With a couple guys rated just as high at their respective positions. 

    Wouldn't Edmunds make the LB corps the best in the division?  He seems like a perfect fit at ILB.  Making plays all over the field, against the run and pass.

  • @tiamat63 said:

    Would take Chubb 8 days a week over Edmunds right now.    Or probably any linebacker for that matter.

    You're the scout.  Is Chubb a bigger Mack?

    @skippinturtles said:

    You're the scout.  Is Chubb a bigger Mack?

    Its Big Mac ....come on man get your burgers right

  • the top two choices have to be dramatic impact players. as in, dramatic improvement to your football team.

    Edmunds is very, very good - but adding a FS/CB/QB (the right ones) would be far more dramatic than adding a lb,

    due to serious needs.

  • @hoorta said:

    If you look at what the Browns have at LB, I wouldn't take Edmunds @ #4.  We're going to be counting on Garrett and Ogbah to supply qb pressure, and the defensive secondary is higher priority. With a couple guys rated just as high at their respective positions. 

    Wouldn't Edmunds make the LB corps the best in the division?  He seems like a perfect fit at ILB.  Making plays all over the field, against the run and pass.

    @skippinturtles said:

    Wouldn't Edmunds make the LB corps the best in the division?  He seems like a perfect fit at ILB.  Making plays all over the field, against the run and pass.

    if our plan was to replace Collins this season? Than maybe Edmunds would be in the mix of need with Fitzpatrick or Upgrading Ogbah/Nassib with Chubbs. Edmonds looks to be a better depth role behind Collins beating out Burgess but not at #4 .Hokies Bud Foster defensive coach maybe the best of molding a kids defensive talent I've seen. Edmunds is a young 19 yr. old freak watching alot of ACC. Again were watching a Highlight reel. If ya watch his Full game Lowlights tape, watch for his some times wrong guessing by losing track of ball or ball carrier over his coverage assignments.Smooth deep drops but sometimes leaving to much cushion in front of him.I'd  at times question that hip flip.ACC has not been known for TE coverage experts..When he gets to big leagues. TE will see some real TE's     

  • @skippinturtles said:

    You're the scout.  Is Chubb a bigger Mack?

    I swear to Christ Almighty, if you say Mack one more time....  

    @tiamat63 said:

    I swear to Christ Almighty, if you say Mack one more time....  

    "SAY WHAT ONE MORE MOTHERShmuckING TIME!" 😆

  • Anyone concerned about the idea of using the 4th overall pick on a 19 year old?

    Of course it's all a crap shoot, but man, 19?  

  • Anyone concerned about the idea of using the 4th overall pick on a 19 year old?

    Of course it's all a crap shoot, but man, 19?  

    @dutch-oven said:

    Anyone concerned about the idea of using the 4th overall pick on a 19 year old?

    Of course it's all a crap shoot, but man, 19?  

    I feel you on the age thing.  His production is legit at 19.  The kid is a proven player with unlimited potential.  His athleticism and body type don't exist really at LB.  He's a match-up nightmare.  Plays sideline to sideline, stuffs the run and flips his hips in coverage.  6'5", 250 lbs.  He's 19 and could anchor the LB corps until 2030.  Worth the #4?  Yes.

  • @tiamat63 said:

    I swear to Christ Almighty, if you say Mack one more time....  

    "SAY WHAT ONE MORE MOTHERShmuckING TIME!" 😆

    @dutch-oven said:

    "SAY WHAT ONE MORE MOTHERShmuckING TIME!" 😆

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  • We play defense with 10 guys.....and Peppers in punt return formation.  If we were to go D at #4 I would HOPE it would be for the FS so as to bring Peppers up closer to the LOS where he was effective in college.

  • We play defense with 10 guys.....and Peppers in punt return formation.  If we were to go D at #4 I would HOPE it would be for the FS so as to bring Peppers up closer to the LOS where he was effective in college.

    @orion said:

    We play defense with 10 guys.....and Peppers in punt return formation.  If we were to go D at #4 I would HOPE it would be for the FS so as to bring Peppers up closer to the LOS where he was effective in college.

    Fitzpatrick is projected to go #4 but he's not a pure center-fielder like Malik Hooker last year.  Edmunds can make plays all over the field with ideal size and speed.

  • @orion said:

    We play defense with 10 guys.....and Peppers in punt return formation.  If we were to go D at #4 I would HOPE it would be for the FS so as to bring Peppers up closer to the LOS where he was effective in college.

    Fitzpatrick is projected to go #4 but he's not a pure center-fielder like Malik Hooker last year.  Edmunds can make plays all over the field with ideal size and speed.

    @skippinturtles said:

    Fitzpatrick is projected to go #4 but he's not a pure center-fielder like Malik Hooker last year.  Edmunds can make plays all over the field with ideal size and speed.

    This is like pushing for buying a new car while homeless. LBs are not an issue for the team right now. It is wayy down on the list of needs.

  • @tiamat63 said:

    I swear to Christ Almighty, if you say Mack one more time....  

    "SAY WHAT ONE MORE MOTHERShmuckING TIME!" 😆

    @dutch-oven said:

    "SAY WHAT ONE MORE MOTHERShmuckING TIME!" 😆

  • @skippinturtles said:

    Fitzpatrick is projected to go #4 but he's not a pure center-fielder like Malik Hooker last year.  Edmunds can make plays all over the field with ideal size and speed.

    This is like pushing for buying a new car while homeless. LBs are not an issue for the team right now. It is wayy down on the list of needs.

    @logicisforsquares said:

    This is like pushing for buying a new car while homeless. LBs are not an issue for the team right now. It is wayy down on the list of needs.

    Drafting for need instead of BPA always works out.  This team needs talent.  Taking a potential superstar linebacker if he's the best player available will always make sense.  Injuries in the NFL can turn a strength into a weakness real quick.  0-16 teams should lean toward best player available.  Loading up the front 7 with no future Ronnie Lott or Deion Sanders available seems reasonable.  Edmunds is an athletic freak.

  • @logicisforsquares said:

    This is like pushing for buying a new car while homeless. LBs are not an issue for the team right now. It is wayy down on the list of needs.

    Drafting for need instead of BPA always works out.  This team needs talent.  Taking a potential superstar linebacker if he's the best player available will always make sense.  Injuries in the NFL can turn a strength into a weakness real quick.  0-16 teams should lean toward best player available.  Loading up the front 7 with no future Ronnie Lott or Deion Sanders available seems reasonable.  Edmunds is an athletic freak.

    @skippinturtles said:

    Drafting for need instead of BPA always works out.  This team needs talent.  Taking a potential superstar linebacker if he's the best player available will always make sense.  Injuries in the NFL can turn a strength into a weakness real quick.  0-16 teams should lean toward best player available.  Loading up the front 7 with no future Ronnie Lott or Deion Sanders available seems reasonable.

    Edmunds is not some generational talent. Need also happens to coincide with talent this year (QB, FS) in the top five.