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  • tiamat63T tiamat63

    Barkley ain't running no 4.3   

    About as dumb as the 'Peppers running a 4.3 crowd'.  

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    @tiamat63 said:

    Barkley ain't running no 4.3   

    About as dumb as the 'Peppers running a 4.3 crowd'.  

    No, seriously man, that's what he ran. He ran a 4.38 two years ago. Then last year he ran a 4.33! Shaved off .05 of a second off. If he's able to do that one more time, which I think he could do- that could put him in, dare I say it? The late 4.2 speed range... that would be really scary huh? That's why I included the link for you guys- so you know it's not hyperbole. 

    http://www.mcall.com/sports/college/psu/mc-watch-penn-state-s-saquon-barkley-runs-a-blazing-40-yard-dash-20170301-story.html

    "Penn State on Wednesday hand-timed at 4.33 seconds in the 40 during winter conditioning tests... 

    Last year, Barkley ran the team's fastest time at 4.38 seconds. So he's getting faster!...

    Barkley's 40 (again, hand-timed) would have been the second-fastest among running backs at last year's NFL combine (Dallas' Ezekiel Elliott ran a 4.47). Backs run Friday at this year's combine, so we'll see how Barkley's time matches against the current draft prospects."

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      @tiamat63 said:

      Barkley ain't running no 4.3   

      About as dumb as the 'Peppers running a 4.3 crowd'.  

      No, seriously man, that's what he ran. He ran a 4.38 two years ago. Then last year he ran a 4.33! Shaved off .05 of a second off. If he's able to do that one more time, which I think he could do- that could put him in, dare I say it? The late 4.2 speed range... that would be really scary huh? That's why I included the link for you guys- so you know it's not hyperbole. 

      http://www.mcall.com/sports/college/psu/mc-watch-penn-state-s-saquon-barkley-runs-a-blazing-40-yard-dash-20170301-story.html

      "Penn State on Wednesday hand-timed at 4.33 seconds in the 40 during winter conditioning tests... 

      Last year, Barkley ran the team's fastest time at 4.38 seconds. So he's getting faster!...

      Barkley's 40 (again, hand-timed) would have been the second-fastest among running backs at last year's NFL combine (Dallas' Ezekiel Elliott ran a 4.47). Backs run Friday at this year's combine, so we'll see how Barkley's time matches against the current draft prospects."

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      tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
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      @poeticg said:

      No, seriously man, that's what he ran. He ran a 4.38 two years ago. Then last year he ran a 4.33! Shaved off .05 of a second off. If he's able to do that one more time, which I think he could do- that could put him in, dare I say it? The late 4.2 speed range... that would be really scary huh? That's why I included the link for you guys- so you know it's not hyperbole. 

      http://www.mcall.com/sports/college/psu/mc-watch-penn-state-s-saquon-barkley-runs-a-blazing-40-yard-dash-20170301-story.html

      "Penn State on Wednesday hand-timed at 4.33 seconds in the 40 during winter conditioning tests... 

      Last year, Barkley ran the team's fastest time at 4.38 seconds. So he's getting faster!...

      Barkley's 40 (again, hand-timed) would have been the second-fastest among running backs at last year's NFL combine (Dallas' Ezekiel Elliott ran a 4.47). Backs run Friday at this year's combine, so we'll see how Barkley's time matches against the current draft prospects."

      I'm gonna toss you on ignore like the other trolls.   Get at me when you want a sig or account time-out bet based on the combine 40.  I accept PM's.

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        The Eagles won with Jay Ajayi (5th round pick), L.Blount (undrafted) and Corey Clement (undrafted).  As good as Barkley is, RB is one of the last positions to invest heavily on (if at all) while building a championship team.  An elite pass rusher like Bradley Chubb would be far more valuable.  An elite DB like Minkah Fitzpatrick would be more valuable.

        It's also a very deep RB draft class.  Let's wait and get Ronald Jones, Kerryon Johnson, Derrius Guice, Nick Chubb, Sony Michel, Rashaad Penny ect ect later on.

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          GhoolieG Ghoolie wrote on last edited by
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          This is a BS report. It would have you believe that lardass offensive linemen are the slowest bastards on the field. Those guys are great athletes, anyone knows that.

          The Cleveland Browns have the hardest hit players in the NFL
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          • GhoolieG Ghoolie

            This is a BS report. It would have you believe that lardass offensive linemen are the slowest bastards on the field. Those guys are great athletes, anyone knows that.

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            @ghoolie said:

            This is a BS report. It would have you believe that lardass offensive linemen are the slowest bastards on the field. Those guys are great athletes, anyone knows that.

            The game is won on the line of scrimmage.

            Too many people want offense, offense and more offense and miss the stud lineman in the draft. I would go 1st pick QB and OL with the 4th pick.

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              jiggins7919J jiggins7919 wrote on last edited by
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              As several people have said, John Dorsey favors selecting running backs later in the draft, and he's never taken one in the first round, let alone with the 4th (or even 1st) pick. In fact, the earliest round he took one is the 2nd round, and that guy didn't have a meaningful career (forget his name). 

              What it obviously comes down to is whether or not Barkley is THAT much of a better prospect than some of the other ones coming out. This draft appears littered with quality backs that will likely be available throughout the various rounds, and I really don't see us taking one THAT early in the draft. Could we possibly trade back into the first round like what we did with Njoku? Maybe, if we have our heart set on someone. But our team has such an astonishing amount of holes that it's way more likely to me we're taking a QB 1st and then Minkah Fitzpatrick at 4. If Fitzpatrick goes 2 or 3, which is doubtful, I could see us trading down A LITTLE to acquire more picks for 2019. More likely is Fitzpatrick being available at 4, us taking him, and the Browns coming away with two extremely important and talented players early in the draft. 

              To me, the 2nd round is more of a mystery. Do we select a tackle to take over for Joe? My stance all along is that he's not coming back because he physically won't be able to play at the level he's accustomed to, and he doesn't strike me as a guy who will play when he can't play well. Assuming we go QB, FS/CB, and OT with our first 3 picks, it's likely we'll add a RB in the 2nd round, and then possibly a linebacker who can cover, or more likely a cornerback. We have an amazing opportunity to add some heavy duty talent to our team, and I have hope that Dorsey and company get it right and build our team up. 

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                The Eagles won with Jay Ajayi (5th round pick), L.Blount (undrafted) and Corey Clement (undrafted).  As good as Barkley is, RB is one of the last positions to invest heavily on (if at all) while building a championship team.  An elite pass rusher like Bradley Chubb would be far more valuable.  An elite DB like Minkah Fitzpatrick would be more valuable.

                It's also a very deep RB draft class.  Let's wait and get Ronald Jones, Kerryon Johnson, Derrius Guice, Nick Chubb, Sony Michel, Rashaad Penny ect ect later on.

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                jrb12711J jrb12711 wrote on last edited by
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                @jimbojones said:

                The Eagles won with Jay Ajayi (5th round pick), L.Blount (undrafted) and Corey Clement (undrafted).  As good as Barkley is, RB is one of the last positions to invest heavily on (if at all) while building a championship team.  An elite pass rusher like Bradley Chubb would be far more valuable.  An elite DB like Minkah Fitzpatrick would be more valuable.

                It's also a very deep RB draft class.  Let's wait and get Ronald Jones, Kerryon Johnson, Derrius Guice, Nick Chubb, Sony Michel, Rashaad Penny ect ect later on.

                I mean, that's a bit of a fools gold argument. By that very definition a back-up 3rd round pick and a basically undrafted guy were in the Super Bowl, so we should wait for that position too?

                Normally I'd agree, but if Browns (and before your head explodes tia, I'm not saying ME) see Barkley as an impact player he's worth being in the conversation. A dude like Elliott and Fournette have made their teams exponentially better in their first season, and I'm sure those teams are pretty darn happy the took a RB high.

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                  I don't care if barkley runs a 4.2.  He's not on zeke's level as a rb.  He just isn't. 

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                    F.ucking stupid philly fan's bet they burn down their city today cause honestly anyone who is stupid enough to put up a statue of Rocky and think that he is real is bound to be a ignorant f.uck

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                      I don't care if barkley runs a 4.2.  He's not on zeke's level as a rb.  He just isn't. 

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                      jrb12711J jrb12711 wrote on last edited by
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                      @sd_tom said:

                      I don't care if barkley runs a 4.2.  He's not on zeke's level as a rb.  He just isn't. 

                      Barkley is much more highly rated by about every major scouting report than Zeke was. I know that ends up meeting squat in the end, but he's absolutely on his level as a prospect. Whether that pans out or not, who knows. 

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                        F.ucking stupid philly fan's bet they burn down their city today cause honestly anyone who is stupid enough to put up a statue of Rocky and think that he is real is bound to be a ignorant f.uck

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                        The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                        @syd said:

                        F.ucking stupid philly fan's bet they burn down their city today cause honestly anyone who is stupid enough to put up a statue of Rocky and think that he is real is bound to be a ignorant f.uck

                        Yo !! What makes you think that anyone thinks he was real?

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                        • tiamat63T tiamat63

                          Barkley ain't running no 4.3   

                          About as dumb as the 'Peppers running a 4.3 crowd'.  

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                          hoortaH hoorta wrote on last edited by
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                          @tiamat63 said:

                          Barkley ain't running no 4.3   

                          About as dumb as the 'Peppers running a 4.3 crowd'.  

                          Before they went to electronic timing, Darryl Green and Bo Jackson hold the unofficial records at 4.1 or something like that. Track speed doesn't mean much if you're not a football player, or can't stay healthy (ask the Bengals about 4.22 John Ross). I'd be mighty curious to see what Usain Bolt could do in a 40.  🙂 LOL, if Saquon is another Bo, I'd be interested @ #4, not #1 though. Quarterback comes first.  As Jiggins pointed out, Dorsey hasn't taken RBs high, and there's a ton of quality guys who will be there in the second round. 

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                            @syd said:

                            F.ucking stupid philly fan's bet they burn down their city today cause honestly anyone who is stupid enough to put up a statue of Rocky and think that he is real is bound to be a ignorant f.uck

                            Yo !! What makes you think that anyone thinks he was real?

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                            @the-gipper said:

                            Yo !! What makes you think that anyone thinks he was real?

                            damn i wish i could find the picture But if philly fan is stupid enough to put horse Sheet in his mouth I am sure they believe rocky is real 

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                              @tiamat63 said:

                              Barkley ain't running no 4.3   

                              About as dumb as the 'Peppers running a 4.3 crowd'.  

                              No, seriously man, that's what he ran. He ran a 4.38 two years ago. Then last year he ran a 4.33! Shaved off .05 of a second off. If he's able to do that one more time, which I think he could do- that could put him in, dare I say it? The late 4.2 speed range... that would be really scary huh? That's why I included the link for you guys- so you know it's not hyperbole. 

                              http://www.mcall.com/sports/college/psu/mc-watch-penn-state-s-saquon-barkley-runs-a-blazing-40-yard-dash-20170301-story.html

                              "Penn State on Wednesday hand-timed at 4.33 seconds in the 40 during winter conditioning tests... 

                              Last year, Barkley ran the team's fastest time at 4.38 seconds. So he's getting faster!...

                              Barkley's 40 (again, hand-timed) would have been the second-fastest among running backs at last year's NFL combine (Dallas' Ezekiel Elliott ran a 4.47). Backs run Friday at this year's combine, so we'll see how Barkley's time matches against the current draft prospects."

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                              Gunz41G Gunz41 wrote on last edited by
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                              @poeticg said:

                              No, seriously man, that's what he ran. He ran a 4.38 two years ago. Then last year he ran a 4.33! Shaved off .05 of a second off. If he's able to do that one more time, which I think he could do- that could put him in, dare I say it? The late 4.2 speed range... that would be really scary huh? That's why I included the link for you guys- so you know it's not hyperbole. 

                              http://www.mcall.com/sports/college/psu/mc-watch-penn-state-s-saquon-barkley-runs-a-blazing-40-yard-dash-20170301-story.html

                              "Penn State on Wednesday hand-timed at 4.33 seconds in the 40 during winter conditioning tests... 

                              Last year, Barkley ran the team's fastest time at 4.38 seconds. So he's getting faster!...

                              Barkley's 40 (again, hand-timed) would have been the second-fastest among running backs at last year's NFL combine (Dallas' Ezekiel Elliott ran a 4.47). Backs run Friday at this year's combine, so we'll see how Barkley's time matches against the current draft prospects."

                              Do you know the adjusted time for hand timed vs electronic? 

                              BIG difference in hand vs electronic 

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                                @sd_tom said:

                                I don't care if barkley runs a 4.2.  He's not on zeke's level as a rb.  He just isn't. 

                                Barkley is much more highly rated by about every major scouting report than Zeke was. I know that ends up meeting squat in the end, but he's absolutely on his level as a prospect. Whether that pans out or not, who knows. 

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                                @jrb12711 said:

                                Barkley is much more highly rated by about every major scouting report than Zeke was. I know that ends up meeting squat in the end, but he's absolutely on his level as a prospect. Whether that pans out or not, who knows. 

                                He's highly touted on all the draft boards,  but compared to zeke he didn't do sheet.  Zeke dominated the playoffs.  Barkley hasn't shown that level,  not consistently against the top teams.   

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                                  @tiamat63 said:

                                  Barkley ain't running no 4.3   

                                  About as dumb as the 'Peppers running a 4.3 crowd'.  

                                  No, seriously man, that's what he ran. He ran a 4.38 two years ago. Then last year he ran a 4.33! Shaved off .05 of a second off. If he's able to do that one more time, which I think he could do- that could put him in, dare I say it? The late 4.2 speed range... that would be really scary huh? That's why I included the link for you guys- so you know it's not hyperbole. 

                                  http://www.mcall.com/sports/college/psu/mc-watch-penn-state-s-saquon-barkley-runs-a-blazing-40-yard-dash-20170301-story.html

                                  "Penn State on Wednesday hand-timed at 4.33 seconds in the 40 during winter conditioning tests... 

                                  Last year, Barkley ran the team's fastest time at 4.38 seconds. So he's getting faster!...

                                  Barkley's 40 (again, hand-timed) would have been the second-fastest among running backs at last year's NFL combine (Dallas' Ezekiel Elliott ran a 4.47). Backs run Friday at this year's combine, so we'll see how Barkley's time matches against the current draft prospects."

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                                  bjh2130B bjh2130 wrote on last edited by bjh2130
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                                  @poeticg said:

                                  No, seriously man, that's what he ran. He ran a 4.38 two years ago. Then last year he ran a 4.33! Shaved off .05 of a second off. If he's able to do that one more time, which I think he could do- that could put him in, dare I say it? The late 4.2 speed range... that would be really scary huh? That's why I included the link for you guys- so you know it's not hyperbole. 

                                  http://www.mcall.com/sports/college/psu/mc-watch-penn-state-s-saquon-barkley-runs-a-blazing-40-yard-dash-20170301-story.html

                                  "Penn State on Wednesday hand-timed at 4.33 seconds in the 40 during winter conditioning tests... 

                                  Last year, Barkley ran the team's fastest time at 4.38 seconds. So he's getting faster!...

                                  Barkley's 40 (again, hand-timed) would have been the second-fastest among running backs at last year's NFL combine (Dallas' Ezekiel Elliott ran a 4.47). Backs run Friday at this year's combine, so we'll see how Barkley's time matches against the current draft prospects."

                                  He will not run in the 4.3 range at the notoriously slow laser timed track in Indy. Hell he may not even run in the 4.4 range. Ohio state had 8 players run sub "4.4 times" including zeke some even in the 4.2 range on their team with hand timed 40s. While I think only lattimore ran sub 4.4 at the combine. It is greatly exaggerated at the college level. And like I said Indy is notorious for its slow track.

                                  Edit to say that I'm not saying he won't cause buckeyes couldn't and they're so great. I'm just saying colleges all across the country fudge with 40 times. I just referenced Ohio state because I'm familiar with their reported college 40 times.

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                                    We have more important needs.. RB's are a dime a dozen these days.. See Crowell...

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                                    We have more important needs.. RB's are a dime a dozen these days.. See Crowell...

                                    This. Don't waste a top pick on a HB

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                                      @jrb12711 said:

                                      Barkley is much more highly rated by about every major scouting report than Zeke was. I know that ends up meeting squat in the end, but he's absolutely on his level as a prospect. Whether that pans out or not, who knows. 

                                      He's highly touted on all the draft boards,  but compared to zeke he didn't do sheet.  Zeke dominated the playoffs.  Barkley hasn't shown that level,  not consistently against the top teams.   

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                                      @sd_tom said:

                                      He's highly touted on all the draft boards,  but compared to zeke he didn't do sheet.  Zeke dominated the playoffs.  Barkley hasn't shown that level,  not consistently against the top teams.   

                                      Your bias is showing.

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                                        @tiamat63 said:

                                        Barkley ain't running no 4.3   

                                        About as dumb as the 'Peppers running a 4.3 crowd'.  

                                        Before they went to electronic timing, Darryl Green and Bo Jackson hold the unofficial records at 4.1 or something like that. Track speed doesn't mean much if you're not a football player, or can't stay healthy (ask the Bengals about 4.22 John Ross). I'd be mighty curious to see what Usain Bolt could do in a 40.  🙂 LOL, if Saquon is another Bo, I'd be interested @ #4, not #1 though. Quarterback comes first.  As Jiggins pointed out, Dorsey hasn't taken RBs high, and there's a ton of quality guys who will be there in the second round. 

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                                        nickersN nickers wrote on last edited by
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                                        @hoorta said:

                                        Before they went to electronic timing, Darryl Green and Bo Jackson hold the unofficial records at 4.1 or something like that. Track speed doesn't mean much if you're not a football player, or can't stay healthy (ask the Bengals about 4.22 John Ross). I'd be mighty curious to see what Usain Bolt could do in a 40.  🙂 LOL, if Saquon is another Bo, I'd be interested @ #4, not #1 though. Quarterback comes first.  As Jiggins pointed out, Dorsey hasn't taken RBs high, and there's a ton of quality guys who will be there in the second round. 

                                        Didn't Ben Gay (RB) run a 4.3 or some Sheet?

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                                          gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by
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                                          Kent State RB Dri Archer ran a 4.26 40 at the combine & was out of league in a year & a half..10 rushes for 40 yards & 23 passing yards..a 3rd round pick that would rather fall down than take a hit..speeds good till ya get caught

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