Saquon Barkley Combine Bound
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The Eagles won with Jay Ajayi (5th round pick), L.Blount (undrafted) and Corey Clement (undrafted). As good as Barkley is, RB is one of the last positions to invest heavily on (if at all) while building a championship team. An elite pass rusher like Bradley Chubb would be far more valuable. An elite DB like Minkah Fitzpatrick would be more valuable.
It's also a very deep RB draft class. Let's wait and get Ronald Jones, Kerryon Johnson, Derrius Guice, Nick Chubb, Sony Michel, Rashaad Penny ect ect later on.
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This is a BS report. It would have you believe that lardass offensive linemen are the slowest bastards on the field. Those guys are great athletes, anyone knows that.
This is a BS report. It would have you believe that lardass offensive linemen are the slowest bastards on the field. Those guys are great athletes, anyone knows that.
The game is won on the line of scrimmage.
Too many people want offense, offense and more offense and miss the stud lineman in the draft. I would go 1st pick QB and OL with the 4th pick.
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As several people have said, John Dorsey favors selecting running backs later in the draft, and he's never taken one in the first round, let alone with the 4th (or even 1st) pick. In fact, the earliest round he took one is the 2nd round, and that guy didn't have a meaningful career (forget his name).
What it obviously comes down to is whether or not Barkley is THAT much of a better prospect than some of the other ones coming out. This draft appears littered with quality backs that will likely be available throughout the various rounds, and I really don't see us taking one THAT early in the draft. Could we possibly trade back into the first round like what we did with Njoku? Maybe, if we have our heart set on someone. But our team has such an astonishing amount of holes that it's way more likely to me we're taking a QB 1st and then Minkah Fitzpatrick at 4. If Fitzpatrick goes 2 or 3, which is doubtful, I could see us trading down A LITTLE to acquire more picks for 2019. More likely is Fitzpatrick being available at 4, us taking him, and the Browns coming away with two extremely important and talented players early in the draft.
To me, the 2nd round is more of a mystery. Do we select a tackle to take over for Joe? My stance all along is that he's not coming back because he physically won't be able to play at the level he's accustomed to, and he doesn't strike me as a guy who will play when he can't play well. Assuming we go QB, FS/CB, and OT with our first 3 picks, it's likely we'll add a RB in the 2nd round, and then possibly a linebacker who can cover, or more likely a cornerback. We have an amazing opportunity to add some heavy duty talent to our team, and I have hope that Dorsey and company get it right and build our team up.
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The Eagles won with Jay Ajayi (5th round pick), L.Blount (undrafted) and Corey Clement (undrafted). As good as Barkley is, RB is one of the last positions to invest heavily on (if at all) while building a championship team. An elite pass rusher like Bradley Chubb would be far more valuable. An elite DB like Minkah Fitzpatrick would be more valuable.
It's also a very deep RB draft class. Let's wait and get Ronald Jones, Kerryon Johnson, Derrius Guice, Nick Chubb, Sony Michel, Rashaad Penny ect ect later on.
The Eagles won with Jay Ajayi (5th round pick), L.Blount (undrafted) and Corey Clement (undrafted). As good as Barkley is, RB is one of the last positions to invest heavily on (if at all) while building a championship team. An elite pass rusher like Bradley Chubb would be far more valuable. An elite DB like Minkah Fitzpatrick would be more valuable.
It's also a very deep RB draft class. Let's wait and get Ronald Jones, Kerryon Johnson, Derrius Guice, Nick Chubb, Sony Michel, Rashaad Penny ect ect later on.
I mean, that's a bit of a fools gold argument. By that very definition a back-up 3rd round pick and a basically undrafted guy were in the Super Bowl, so we should wait for that position too?
Normally I'd agree, but if Browns (and before your head explodes tia, I'm not saying ME) see Barkley as an impact player he's worth being in the conversation. A dude like Elliott and Fournette have made their teams exponentially better in their first season, and I'm sure those teams are pretty darn happy the took a RB high.
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I don't care if barkley runs a 4.2. He's not on zeke's level as a rb. He just isn't.
Barkley is much more highly rated by about every major scouting report than Zeke was. I know that ends up meeting squat in the end, but he's absolutely on his level as a prospect. Whether that pans out or not, who knows.
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F.ucking stupid philly fan's bet they burn down their city today cause honestly anyone who is stupid enough to put up a statue of Rocky and think that he is real is bound to be a ignorant f.uck
F.ucking stupid philly fan's bet they burn down their city today cause honestly anyone who is stupid enough to put up a statue of Rocky and think that he is real is bound to be a ignorant f.uck
Yo !! What makes you think that anyone thinks he was real?
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Barkley ain't running no 4.3
About as dumb as the 'Peppers running a 4.3 crowd'.
Before they went to electronic timing, Darryl Green and Bo Jackson hold the unofficial records at 4.1 or something like that. Track speed doesn't mean much if you're not a football player, or can't stay healthy (ask the Bengals about 4.22 John Ross). I'd be mighty curious to see what Usain Bolt could do in a 40.
LOL, if Saquon is another Bo, I'd be interested @ #4, not #1 though. Quarterback comes first. As Jiggins pointed out, Dorsey hasn't taken RBs high, and there's a ton of quality guys who will be there in the second round.
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Yo !! What makes you think that anyone thinks he was real?
damn i wish i could find the picture But if philly fan is stupid enough to put horse Sheet in his mouth I am sure they believe rocky is real
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Barkley ain't running no 4.3
About as dumb as the 'Peppers running a 4.3 crowd'.
No, seriously man, that's what he ran. He ran a 4.38 two years ago. Then last year he ran a 4.33! Shaved off .05 of a second off. If he's able to do that one more time, which I think he could do- that could put him in, dare I say it? The late 4.2 speed range... that would be really scary huh? That's why I included the link for you guys- so you know it's not hyperbole.
"Penn State on Wednesday hand-timed at 4.33 seconds in the 40 during winter conditioning tests...
Last year, Barkley ran the team's fastest time at 4.38 seconds. So he's getting faster!...
Barkley's 40 (again, hand-timed) would have been the second-fastest among running backs at last year's NFL combine (Dallas' Ezekiel Elliott ran a 4.47). Backs run Friday at this year's combine, so we'll see how Barkley's time matches against the current draft prospects."
No, seriously man, that's what he ran. He ran a 4.38 two years ago. Then last year he ran a 4.33! Shaved off .05 of a second off. If he's able to do that one more time, which I think he could do- that could put him in, dare I say it? The late 4.2 speed range... that would be really scary huh? That's why I included the link for you guys- so you know it's not hyperbole.
"Penn State on Wednesday hand-timed at 4.33 seconds in the 40 during winter conditioning tests...
Last year, Barkley ran the team's fastest time at 4.38 seconds. So he's getting faster!...
Barkley's 40 (again, hand-timed) would have been the second-fastest among running backs at last year's NFL combine (Dallas' Ezekiel Elliott ran a 4.47). Backs run Friday at this year's combine, so we'll see how Barkley's time matches against the current draft prospects."
Do you know the adjusted time for hand timed vs electronic?
BIG difference in hand vs electronic
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I don't care if barkley runs a 4.2. He's not on zeke's level as a rb. He just isn't.
Barkley is much more highly rated by about every major scouting report than Zeke was. I know that ends up meeting squat in the end, but he's absolutely on his level as a prospect. Whether that pans out or not, who knows.
Barkley is much more highly rated by about every major scouting report than Zeke was. I know that ends up meeting squat in the end, but he's absolutely on his level as a prospect. Whether that pans out or not, who knows.
He's highly touted on all the draft boards, but compared to zeke he didn't do sheet. Zeke dominated the playoffs. Barkley hasn't shown that level, not consistently against the top teams.
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Barkley ain't running no 4.3
About as dumb as the 'Peppers running a 4.3 crowd'.
No, seriously man, that's what he ran. He ran a 4.38 two years ago. Then last year he ran a 4.33! Shaved off .05 of a second off. If he's able to do that one more time, which I think he could do- that could put him in, dare I say it? The late 4.2 speed range... that would be really scary huh? That's why I included the link for you guys- so you know it's not hyperbole.
"Penn State on Wednesday hand-timed at 4.33 seconds in the 40 during winter conditioning tests...
Last year, Barkley ran the team's fastest time at 4.38 seconds. So he's getting faster!...
Barkley's 40 (again, hand-timed) would have been the second-fastest among running backs at last year's NFL combine (Dallas' Ezekiel Elliott ran a 4.47). Backs run Friday at this year's combine, so we'll see how Barkley's time matches against the current draft prospects."
No, seriously man, that's what he ran. He ran a 4.38 two years ago. Then last year he ran a 4.33! Shaved off .05 of a second off. If he's able to do that one more time, which I think he could do- that could put him in, dare I say it? The late 4.2 speed range... that would be really scary huh? That's why I included the link for you guys- so you know it's not hyperbole.
"Penn State on Wednesday hand-timed at 4.33 seconds in the 40 during winter conditioning tests...
Last year, Barkley ran the team's fastest time at 4.38 seconds. So he's getting faster!...
Barkley's 40 (again, hand-timed) would have been the second-fastest among running backs at last year's NFL combine (Dallas' Ezekiel Elliott ran a 4.47). Backs run Friday at this year's combine, so we'll see how Barkley's time matches against the current draft prospects."
He will not run in the 4.3 range at the notoriously slow laser timed track in Indy. Hell he may not even run in the 4.4 range. Ohio state had 8 players run sub "4.4 times" including zeke some even in the 4.2 range on their team with hand timed 40s. While I think only lattimore ran sub 4.4 at the combine. It is greatly exaggerated at the college level. And like I said Indy is notorious for its slow track.
Edit to say that I'm not saying he won't cause buckeyes couldn't and they're so great. I'm just saying colleges all across the country fudge with 40 times. I just referenced Ohio state because I'm familiar with their reported college 40 times.
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We have more important needs.. RB's are a dime a dozen these days.. See Crowell...
This. Don't waste a top pick on a HB
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Barkley is much more highly rated by about every major scouting report than Zeke was. I know that ends up meeting squat in the end, but he's absolutely on his level as a prospect. Whether that pans out or not, who knows.
He's highly touted on all the draft boards, but compared to zeke he didn't do sheet. Zeke dominated the playoffs. Barkley hasn't shown that level, not consistently against the top teams.
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Barkley ain't running no 4.3
About as dumb as the 'Peppers running a 4.3 crowd'.
Before they went to electronic timing, Darryl Green and Bo Jackson hold the unofficial records at 4.1 or something like that. Track speed doesn't mean much if you're not a football player, or can't stay healthy (ask the Bengals about 4.22 John Ross). I'd be mighty curious to see what Usain Bolt could do in a 40.
LOL, if Saquon is another Bo, I'd be interested @ #4, not #1 though. Quarterback comes first. As Jiggins pointed out, Dorsey hasn't taken RBs high, and there's a ton of quality guys who will be there in the second round.
Before they went to electronic timing, Darryl Green and Bo Jackson hold the unofficial records at 4.1 or something like that. Track speed doesn't mean much if you're not a football player, or can't stay healthy (ask the Bengals about 4.22 John Ross). I'd be mighty curious to see what Usain Bolt could do in a 40.
LOL, if Saquon is another Bo, I'd be interested @ #4, not #1 though. Quarterback comes first. As Jiggins pointed out, Dorsey hasn't taken RBs high, and there's a ton of quality guys who will be there in the second round.
Didn't Ben Gay (RB) run a 4.3 or some Sheet?
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Kent State RB Dri Archer ran a 4.26 40 at the combine & was out of league in a year & a half..10 rushes for 40 yards & 23 passing yards..a 3rd round pick that would rather fall down than take a hit..speeds good till ya get caught
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Kent State RB Dri Archer ran a 4.26 40 at the combine & was out of league in a year & a half..10 rushes for 40 yards & 23 passing yards..a 3rd round pick that would rather fall down than take a hit..speeds good till ya get caught
Kent State RB Dri Archer ran a 4.26 40 at the combine & was out of league in a year & a half..10 rushes for 40 yards & 23 passing yards..a 3rd round pick that would rather fall down than take a hit..speeds good till ya get caught
This is what I argued with Po with, regarding Trent Richardson. RE: Saquon getting the nfl.com comparison to Barry Sanders. I never saw Sanders getting caught from behind in college. Trent? Plenty of times, didn't have the breakaway gear, not to mention worse field vision than our now RB Crowell.
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Kent State RB Dri Archer ran a 4.26 40 at the combine & was out of league in a year & a half..10 rushes for 40 yards & 23 passing yards..a 3rd round pick that would rather fall down than take a hit..speeds good till ya get caught
This is what I argued with Po with, regarding Trent Richardson. RE: Saquon getting the nfl.com comparison to Barry Sanders. I never saw Sanders getting caught from behind in college. Trent? Plenty of times, didn't have the breakaway gear, not to mention worse field vision than our now RB Crowell.
This is what I argued with Po with, regarding Trent Richardson. RE: Saquon getting the nfl.com comparison to Barry Sanders. I never saw Sanders getting caught from behind in college. Trent? Plenty of times, didn't have the breakaway gear, not to mention worse field vision than our now RB Crowell.
Barkley doesn't just have the strength (he put up 30 reps at a charity event last year) but he is also ghostly elusive and has breakaway speed.
Where the small guys that had fast times got into trouble was when they met up with contact.
Saquon doesn't need to go physical when he can easily make the defenders miss. Physical contact is the last resort when you don't have any other options. Barkley rarely runs out of options. It doesn't mean that he can't be physical in the run game. It all depends on the situation and it's very fluid. It's poetic when you watch Barkley move like water as he's slicing through a sea of defenders left grasping at air.
Barkley's like a Frankenstein creation at running back- He's part Juggernaut, part Ghost.
He will completely change the mindset of the team into contenders from day one.
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