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  • I do like the kid, though.

    Here's a great article on him:

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000889241/article/wilson-or-manziel-the-good-bad-with-ou-qb-baker-mayfield

    weaknesses from Walter Football:

    Weaknesses:

    • Undersized; shorter than ideal
    • Poor footwork
    • Gets happy feet in the pocket
    • Inconsistent field vision
    • Can have issues reading the field
    • Teams question how will he perform when forced to stay in the pocket?
    • Didn't play a lot of top competition
    • Maturity
    • Will need more development for working under center
    • Transition from a college-style to pro-style offense
    •  
    "Mayfield is undersized for the NFL with just average arm strength,..."


    Read more: http://walterfootball.com/scoutingreport2018bmayfield.php#ixzz56Z4kvFZt

  • @calfoxwc said:

    ah. We'll just have to see what all happens. I think Allen has the highest upside. Darnold has turnovers/fumbles problem...

    Allen has the best upside for development. People say that he wont improve his completion rate. Hogwash,  Brady, Brees and Farve improved.

    Some team is going grab Allen and he will be a star. The next big name NFL QB.

    @boo-fagley said:

    Allen has the best upside for development. People say that he wont improve his completion rate. Hogwash,  Brady, Brees and Farve improved.

    Some team is going grab Allen and he will be a star. The next big name NFL QB.

    2 of those 3 weren't even taken in the first round. 

  • https://www.dawgsbynature.com/2018/2/8/16953726/krupkas-baker-mayfield-film-room   film room on Mayfield..agree or disagree?   

  • NFL Radio's Pat Kerwin (Moving the Chains Show) spent the week at the senior bowl and thought Mayfield would be the best pick for the Browns.

  • @boo-fagley said:

    Allen has the best upside for development. People say that he wont improve his completion rate. Hogwash,  Brady, Brees and Farve improved.

    Some team is going grab Allen and he will be a star. The next big name NFL QB.

    2 of those 3 weren't even taken in the first round. 

    @tiamat63 said:

    2 of those 3 weren't even taken in the first round. 

    Would you take them in the 1st round today?

  • @tiamat63 said:

    2 of those 3 weren't even taken in the first round. 

    Would you take them in the 1st round today?

    @boo-fagley said:

    Would you take them in the 1st round today?

    Is this somehow meant to validate your argument?  Because hindsight is kind of a cowpoop way to prove your point. 

  • @boo-fagley said:

    Would you take them in the 1st round today?

    Is this somehow meant to validate your argument?  Because hindsight is kind of a cowpoop way to prove your point. 

    @tiamat63 said:

    Is this somehow meant to validate your argument?  Because hindsight is kind of a cowpoop way to prove your point. 

    but that goes both ways, yes?

  • @boo-fagley said:

    Allen has the best upside for development. People say that he wont improve his completion rate. Hogwash,  Brady, Brees and Farve improved.

    Some team is going grab Allen and he will be a star. The next big name NFL QB.

    2 of those 3 weren't even taken in the first round. 

    @tiamat63 said:

    2 of those 3 weren't even taken in the first round. 

    Brees, Favre and Brady were all taken outside of the first round. 

  • @tiamat63 said:

    2 of those 3 weren't even taken in the first round. 

    Brees, Favre and Brady were all taken outside of the first round. 

    @roycerolls said:

    Brees, Favre and Brady were all taken outside of the first round. 

    You're right, I forgot Favre was taken at the 1st pick of the 2nd round. 

    For some reason I thought he was a 1st round, tail end kind of pick.    

    Point further proven.  None of those QB's were taken in the 1st round.

  • We are going to have the same Brees, Favre, Brady conversation all over again??? 

    I bet that most of us wouldn't have a problem drafting Allen, but never in the top of the 1st, and as that's the spot were we MUST draft our QBOTF, well, that takes Allen out of our ideal draft choices for most of us.

  • We are going to have the same Brees, Favre, Brady conversation all over again??? 

    I bet that most of us wouldn't have a problem drafting Allen, but never in the top of the 1st, and as that's the spot were we MUST draft our QBOTF, well, that takes Allen out of our ideal draft choices for most of us.

    @nero said:

    We are going to have the same Brees, Favre, Brady conversation all over again??? 

    I bet that most of us wouldn't have a problem drafting Allen, but never in the top of the 1st, and as that's the spot were we MUST draft our QBOTF, well, that takes Allen out of our ideal draft choices for most of us.

    Geeezzz I wish the draft was next week! 

  • We are going to have the same Brees, Favre, Brady conversation all over again??? 

    I bet that most of us wouldn't have a problem drafting Allen, but never in the top of the 1st, and as that's the spot were we MUST draft our QBOTF, well, that takes Allen out of our ideal draft choices for most of us.

    @nero said:

    We are going to have the same Brees, Favre, Brady conversation all over again??? 

    I bet that most of us wouldn't have a problem drafting Allen, but never in the top of the 1st, and as that's the spot were we MUST draft our QBOTF, well, that takes Allen out of our ideal draft choices for most of us.

    Besides we already have Allen. He plays exactly the same way and did show some flashes of learning in the last few games. If he'd had any WRs worth a damn other than JG, he might have been able to show us more. Too many game changing drops last year only topped off by Coleman's stone handed miss in the last game.

  • llen has the best upside for development. People say that he wont improve his completion rate. Hogwash,  Brady, Brees and Farve improved.

    Some team is going grab Allen and he will be a star. The next big name NFL QB.

    2 of those 3 weren't even taken in the first round. 

    Actually.....technically....none of them were.   Brady...6th round as you know.  Favre was a second rounder...#33    As was Brees.   Now...he went #32...but at the time there were only 31 picks in the first round.....and he was the first pick of the second round.

  • @nero said:

    We are going to have the same Brees, Favre, Brady conversation all over again??? 

    I bet that most of us wouldn't have a problem drafting Allen, but never in the top of the 1st, and as that's the spot were we MUST draft our QBOTF, well, that takes Allen out of our ideal draft choices for most of us.

    Besides we already have Allen. He plays exactly the same way and did show some flashes of learning in the last few games. If he'd had any WRs worth a damn other than JG, he might have been able to show us more. Too many game changing drops last year only topped off by Coleman's stone handed miss in the last game.

    @texasag1969 said:

    Besides we already have Allen. He plays exactly the same way and did show some flashes of learning in the last few games. If he'd had any WRs worth a damn other than JG, he might have been able to show us more. Too many game changing drops last year only topped off by Coleman's stone handed miss in the last game.

    Exactly.   Why do we want another big, strong, athletic QB who is inaccurate?   We already have Kizer on the roster, why draft another version of him this year? 

  • Tiamat is an insufferable dickwad.

  • Kizer doesn't love the game. Kizer isn't much of a leader on the field, or off it, he has little fire in him. He looks only at ONE THIRD of the field every play. AS in, every...single....play. It's all he can do, apparently. Allen can look one way, and throw the other - he never had the talent around him that Notre Dame has.

    Allen "is Kizer" = Mayfield "is Manziel".

    just really dumb. Kizer is a tall kid who has a big arm who can play a little football. Allen is a tall kid with a big arm, who IS A FOOTBALL PLAYER. In that regard, Allen is a lot like Mayfield. He LOVES the game. He LIVES the game. It seems Kizer doesn't love much of anything.

    Kizer interviews after a lost football game like he just got pulled over for speeding 10 mph over the speed limit and is getting a warning. His first season, he threw a 62.x completion percentage. He's a "star"...wait, his last year it went down to 56.x percent. He's "a bust"

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    Meanwhile, back at the ranch, Mayfield is a heck of a kid. Give him a couple of inch higher platform shoes, and an arm like Allen's, and I'd draft him over Allen. lol

    My dumb opinion - the Browns will go with Mayfield or Allen, with the first pick. It depends on Allen at his pro day and conbine - he will have to show terrific accuracy and touch....or the choice swings to Mayfield right there.

    They will trade out of the four pick, and and get one of three free safeties with the other pick. There are only three fs in this draft - the Browns need one of them, and I think all three are gone by the second round.

    Who knows. I sure don't. lol

  • Tiamat is an insufferable dickwad.

    @mike-h said:

    Tiamat is an insufferable dickwad.

    Hand to God, I laughed pretty hard.  Thanks because I needed that. 

  • The Internet forum wanna-be is not even mad, he’s laughing! It’s funny to him!

    Please continue your delusional posting here. I’m sure you’ll still be here faking it when I come back in 6 months.

  • The Internet forum wanna-be is not even mad, he’s laughing! It’s funny to him!

    Please continue your delusional posting here. I’m sure you’ll still be here faking it when I come back in 6 months.

    @mike-h said:

    The Internet forum wanna-be is not even mad, he’s laughing! It’s funny to him!

    Please continue your delusional posting here. I’m sure you’ll still be here faking it when I come back in 6 months.

    Unlike that one time you actually Shmucked a broad, there's no faking here. See you in 6 months, champ.