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  • tiamat63 tiamat63T Conversation Starter Dedicated Reacting Well Collaborator First Post Posting Machine Week One Done One Month Later One Year In Very Popular
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    tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
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    Trading up to #1 for a RB?

    I'd love to play poker with whoever is peddling that cowpoop.   I'd be able to pay my rent taking them to the cleaners.

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      Trading up to #1 for a RB?

      I'd love to play poker with whoever is peddling that cowpoop.   I'd be able to pay my rent taking them to the cleaners.

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      mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by mjp28
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      @tiamat63 said:

      Trading up to #1 for a RB?

      I'd love to play poker with whoever is peddling that cowpoop.   I'd be able to pay my rent taking them to the cleaners.

      Who's trading up to #1 for a RB?

      GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND!
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        LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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        If the Browns take the Colts deal, trade down, and don't get their desired QB, anarchy would reign in Cleveland haha.

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          @tiamat63 said:

          Trading up to #1 for a RB?

          I'd love to play poker with whoever is peddling that cowpoop.   I'd be able to pay my rent taking them to the cleaners.

          Who's trading up to #1 for a RB?

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          tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
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          @mjp28 said:

          Who's trading up to #1 for a RB?

          Alex:  What is - not a god damn NFL worthy GM, that's for sure.  

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            sydS syd wrote on last edited by
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            the colts have so many holes on their team I can see them trading back but no way in hell do they give up picks to move up

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            • LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares

              If the Browns take the Colts deal, trade down, and don't get their desired QB, anarchy would reign in Cleveland haha.

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              mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by
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              @logicisforsquares said:

              If the Browns take the Colts deal, trade down, and don't get their desired QB, anarchy would reign in Cleveland haha.

              And all of this still depends "IF" the BROWNS can or cannot sign an experienced quarterback in the FA market......NO QB, sign a rookie savior and debate on who starts him or Kizer. 😮

              Oh I can't wait until April 26.

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                jiggins7919J jiggins7919 wrote on last edited by
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                Sounds like an excellent opportunity for us to lose out on the QB we have rated the highest. Would I like to get more assets? Sure. Would I like to absolutely get the QB we want with 100% certainty even more? You bet. 

                This isn't complicated. Draft the guy you like the most and don't play games with our future. 

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                  Browns1216B Browns1216 wrote on last edited by
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                  or....it's all a clever ploy by the Colts.  they'll convince the Browns they'll use the #1 on a running back and then BAM!  once they have the #1 pick they swipe the Browns' top QB choice out from under them.  It's all a plot for revenge for the Trent Richardson trade.

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                    Sounds like an excellent opportunity for us to lose out on the QB we have rated the highest. Would I like to get more assets? Sure. Would I like to absolutely get the QB we want with 100% certainty even more? You bet. 

                    This isn't complicated. Draft the guy you like the most and don't play games with our future. 

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                    jrb12711J jrb12711 wrote on last edited by
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                    @jiggins7919 said:

                    This isn't complicated. Draft the guy you like the most and don't play games with our future. 

                    Amen to that. There's several candidates that would qualify as the #1 pick at the strongest position of need. To not take one unless we pull Cousins out of our hat would be nothing short of absurd. 

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                    • LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares

                      If the Browns take the Colts deal, trade down, and don't get their desired QB, anarchy would reign in Cleveland haha.

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                      The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                      @logicisforsquares said:

                      If the Browns take the Colts deal, trade down, and don't get their desired QB, anarchy would reign in Cleveland haha.

                      Except...of course....they would claim that the DID get their desired QB.  Fair to say?   If the Giants took Rosen....and they took Darnold...they would say that they were after Darnold all the time.....and vice versa.

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                        @darren15 said:

                        While listening to CBS Sports radio earlier it was reported that the Colts are seriously looking to trade up to number 1 to take Barklay over the Giants ........ I wonder what we would get from the Colts in return ?

                        What would you suggest?   Obviously the #3.....plus their 2d rounder? At minimum.

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                        hoortaH hoorta wrote on last edited by hoorta
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                        @the-gipper said:

                        What would you suggest?   Obviously the #3.....plus their 2d rounder? At minimum.

                        Draft Value chart says their #3, the #35, plus a second next year.  Might be interested. That gives us the first, third, fourth, and last picks in the second round. 

                        @browns1216 said:

                        or....it's all a clever ploy by the Colts.  they'll convince the Browns they'll use the #1 on a running back and then BAM!  once they have the #1 pick they swipe the Browns' top QB choice out from under them.  It's all a plot for revenge for the Trent Richardson trade.

                        Only way that would happen is if they think Luck is so damaged, it's time to move on. Even if in that scenario (Colts take Barkley) the Giants would do as I suspect and take a QB, that would Still leave 2 out of 3 for us to take- Darnold, Rosen, or Mayfield. I could live with that. Or they could pull a Sonny Weaver draft day move- go up to #1, and then trade back to a team that really wants a QB.  However, if a team really wanted to move up to #1 for a qb- I'd think they'd deal directly with the Browns and cut out the middleman. 

                        Finally- MHO is why? Would the Colts (or the Giants) want to take a RB? Even with a healthy OBJ (Giants) or Luck (Colts) Barkley isn't going to magically transform them into a Super Bowl caliber team. Plus, should the Browns take a QB, #1, Saquon is gonna be there for them without having to make a trade.   

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                        • jiggins7919J jiggins7919

                          Sounds like an excellent opportunity for us to lose out on the QB we have rated the highest. Would I like to get more assets? Sure. Would I like to absolutely get the QB we want with 100% certainty even more? You bet. 

                          This isn't complicated. Draft the guy you like the most and don't play games with our future. 

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                          mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by
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                          @jiggins7919 said:

                          Sounds like an excellent opportunity for us to lose out on the QB we have rated the highest. Would I like to get more assets? Sure. Would I like to absolutely get the QB we want with 100% certainty even more? You bet. 

                          This isn't complicated. Draft the guy you like the most and don't play games with our future. 

                          More than likely the BROWNS will pick a QB with the #1 or 4 the way things appear to be going right now.

                          I'm basically scrapping the 2018 season as a 5 win maximum  season and going for 2019 to compete, one thing for sure they can address a slew of needs all over the place. After 1-31 I've turned into a grumpy ol' realist. 😠

                          GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND!
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                            @jiggins7919 said:

                            Sounds like an excellent opportunity for us to lose out on the QB we have rated the highest. Would I like to get more assets? Sure. Would I like to absolutely get the QB we want with 100% certainty even more? You bet. 

                            This isn't complicated. Draft the guy you like the most and don't play games with our future. 

                            More than likely the BROWNS will pick a QB with the #1 or 4 the way things appear to be going right now.

                            I'm basically scrapping the 2018 season as a 5 win maximum  season and going for 2019 to compete, one thing for sure they can address a slew of needs all over the place. After 1-31 I've turned into a grumpy ol' realist. 😠

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                            hoortaH hoorta wrote on last edited by
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                            @mjp28 said:

                            More than likely the BROWNS will pick a QB with the #1 or 4 the way things appear to be going right now.

                            I'm basically scrapping the 2018 season as a 5 win maximum  season and going for 2019 to compete, one thing for sure they can address a slew of needs all over the place. After 1-31 I've turned into a grumpy ol' realist. 😠

                            It will depend who they get as the "bridge" QB.  McCown won 5 games with a roster as talent depleted as the Browns. If Kizer hadn't been epically bad, we probably would have won a few games last year. 

                            I currently just don't see the Browns in the market for Cousins. 

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                              I don't think they brought Dorsey in here to act like Ray Farmer, Sashi Brown, etc. The combo of trading down and drafting poorly/reaching has killed this franchise.

                              I'd rather stand pat, not make any trades,and go down swinging than trade these assets away. 

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                              Canton MikeC Canton Mike wrote on last edited by
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                              @bob806 said:

                              I don't think they brought Dorsey in here to act like Ray Farmer, Sashi Brown, etc. The combo of trading down and drafting poorly/reaching has killed this franchise.

                              I'd rather stand pat, not make any trades,and go down swinging than trade these assets away. 

                              Well said Bob!!!

                              I agree, Dorsey & his boys were brought here to get QUALITY rather than quantity. I wouldn't mind trading UP to improve the quality of picks AFTER #4, but I'm extremely tired of trading down.

                              Mike

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                              • LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares

                                If the Browns take the Colts deal, trade down, and don't get their desired QB, anarchy would reign in Cleveland haha.

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                                T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by
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                                @logicisforsquares said:

                                If the Browns take the Colts deal, trade down, and don't get their desired QB, anarchy would reign in Cleveland haha.

                                And that would differ from now @ 1-31 exactly how?🙄

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                                  Luck is done,Colts are trading up for a QB

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                                    Luck is done,Colts are trading up for a QB

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                                    gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by gumby73
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                                    @7moses7 said:

                                    Luck is done,Colts are trading up for a QB

                                    Smart move by Colts. If Foles decides on starter money? Frank Reich will have the inside track to Foles out of division. Reich is a good dude, watch his back-up again hire at Colts presser. Reports read Frank is trying to hire Don Beebe as his WR coach.. still see Colts/NYG figuring out a small trade down to best OLman.. Denver should also look OL, but Elway can't do anything smart in drafting..Including his QB's  

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                                      @logicisforsquares said:

                                      If the Browns take the Colts deal, trade down, and don't get their desired QB, anarchy would reign in Cleveland haha.

                                      And that would differ from now @ 1-31 exactly how?🙄

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                                      LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by LogicIsForSquares
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                                      @texasag1969 said:

                                      And that would differ from now @ 1-31 exactly how?🙄

                                      It would be among the fans. The team is a bumbling mess until notified otherwise haha.

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                                        @logicisforsquares said:

                                        If the Browns take the Colts deal, trade down, and don't get their desired QB, anarchy would reign in Cleveland haha.

                                        And that would differ from now @ 1-31 exactly how?🙄

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                                        mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by
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                                        @texasag1969 said:

                                        And that would differ from now @ 1-31 exactly how?🙄

                                        Yeah the scary part was they were a wisker from being 0-32 😮  Futility on a nuclear scale.

                                        Whether you're 1-31 or 0-16 or whatever you have major and numerous holes starting with team management, hopefully some of that has been addressed. 

                                        Fortunately they have some good young players but still need an experienced starting quarterback  (cue dead horse pictures) and other key position fills. 

                                        Feel free to update your own personal list and *hooray* for 12 picks in April! 

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                                          The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                                          Just know that if, over the next two years, the Browns go  15-1 and 16-0 that Hue Jackson will have raised his career coaching record to .500!!

                                          (hey...he was 8-8 with the Raiders, no?)

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