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  • @logicisforsquares said:

    If the Browns take the Colts deal, trade down, and don't get their desired QB, anarchy would reign in Cleveland haha.

    And that would differ from now @ 1-31 exactly how?🙄

    @texasag1969 said:

    And that would differ from now @ 1-31 exactly how?🙄

    It would be among the fans. The team is a bumbling mess until notified otherwise haha.

  • @logicisforsquares said:

    If the Browns take the Colts deal, trade down, and don't get their desired QB, anarchy would reign in Cleveland haha.

    And that would differ from now @ 1-31 exactly how?🙄

    @texasag1969 said:

    And that would differ from now @ 1-31 exactly how?🙄

    Yeah the scary part was they were a wisker from being 0-32 😮  Futility on a nuclear scale.

    Whether you're 1-31 or 0-16 or whatever you have major and numerous holes starting with team management, hopefully some of that has been addressed. 

    Fortunately they have some good young players but still need an experienced starting quarterback  (cue dead horse pictures) and other key position fills. 

    Feel free to update your own personal list and *hooray* for 12 picks in April! 

  • Just know that if, over the next two years, the Browns go  15-1 and 16-0 that Hue Jackson will have raised his career coaching record to .500!!

    (hey...he was 8-8 with the Raiders, no?)

  • Just know that if, over the next two years, the Browns go  15-1 and 16-0 that Hue Jackson will have raised his career coaching record to .500!!

    (hey...he was 8-8 with the Raiders, no?)

    @the-gipper said:

    Just know that if, over the next two years, the Browns go  15-1 and 16-0 that Hue Jackson will have raised his career coaching record to .500!!

    (hey...he was 8-8 with the Raiders, no?)

    Oh yeah he'll move to the BROWNS v2.0 head of the class.... (revised 1-31 .031 worst in NFL ,history)

    All-Time Head Coaches
     Name  League  Years  Regular Season Records  Playoff Records  Combined Records
     Hue Jackson  NFL  2016- 1-15-0 (.063) 0-0-0 (0.000) 1-15-0 (.063)
     Mike Pettine  NFL  2014-15  10-22-0 (0.313)  0-0-0 (0.000) 10-22-0 (0.313)
     Rob Chudzinski  NFL  2013  4-12-0 (0.250)  0-0-0 (0.000)  4-12-0 (0.250)
     Pat Shurmur  NFL  2011-12  9-23-0 (0.281)  0-0-0 (0.000)  9-23-0 (0.281)
     Eric Mangini  NFL  2009-10  10-22-0 (0.3125)  0-0-0 (0.000)  10-22-0 (0.3125)
     Romeo Crennel  NFL  2005-08  24-40-0 (0.375)  0-0-0 (0.000)  24-40-0 (0.375)
     Terry Robiskie  NFL  2004*  1-4-0 (0.200)  0-0-0 (0.000)  1-4-0 (0.200)
     Butch Davis  NFL  2001-04  24-35-0 (0.407)  0-1-0 (0.000)  24-36-0 (0.400)
     Chris Palmer  NFL  1999-2000  5-27-0 (0.156)  0-0-0 (0.000)

     5-27-0 (0.156)

     Bill Belichick  NFL  1991-95  36-44-0 (0.450)  1-1-0 (0.500)  37-45-0 (0.451)
     Jim Shofner  NFL  1990*  1-6-0 (0.143)  0-0-0 (0.000)  1-6-0 (0.143)
     Bud Carson  NFL  1989-90  11-13-1 (0.458)  1-1-0 (0.500)

     12-14-1 (0.462)

     Marty Schottenheimer  NFL  1984-88  44-27-0 (0.620)  2-4-0 (0.333)  46-31-0 (0.597)
     Sam Rutigliano  NFL  1978-84  47-50-0 (0.485)  0-2-0 (0.000)  47-52-0 (0.475)
     finger Modzelewski  NFL  1977*  0-1-0 (0.000)  0-0-0 (0.000)  0-1-0 (0.000)
     Forrest Gregg  NFL  1975-77  18-23-0 (0.485)  0-0-0 (0.000)  18-23-0 (0.439)
     Nick Skorich  NFL  1971-74  30-24-2 (0.556)  0-2-0 (0.000)  30-26-2 (0.536)
     Blanton Collier  NFL  1963-70  76-34-2 (0.691)  3-4-0 (0.429)  79-38-2 (0.675)
     Paul Brown  NFL  1950-62  111-44-5 (0.691)  4-5-0 (0.444) 115-49-5 (0.701)
     Paul Brown  AAFC  1946-49  47-4-3 (0.922)  5-0-0 (1.000)  52-4-3 (0.929)
  • So.....lets put that in proper order:   Best to worst:

    1. Paul Brown  .759

    2. Blanton Collier .675

    3. Marty Schottenheimer .597

    4. Nick Skorich  .536

    5. Sam Rutigliano .475

    6. Bud Carson .462

    7. Bill Belichick  .451

    8. Forrest Gregg .439

    9. Butch Davis .400

    10. Romeo Crennell  .375

    11. Mike Pettine  .313

    12. Eric Mangini .3125

    13. Pat Shurmur  .281

    14. Rob Chudzinski .250

    15. Terry Robiskie .200   (Interim 1-4)

    16. Chris Palmer  .156

    17. Jim Shofner  .143  (Interim  1-6)

    18. Hue Jackson  .063

    19. D-i-c-k Modzewlewski   .00  (Interim....0-1) 

  • I'm just being kind not comparing the 2.0 crowd to great coaches with great teams. .400 is Butch who many wanted....and got him run out of town.

  • That is something I never knew - Paul Brown and Blanton Collier had the same exact win % as HC of the NFL Browns. 

  • That is something I never knew - Paul Brown and Blanton Collier had the same exact win % as HC of the NFL Browns. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    That is something I never knew - Paul Brown and Blanton Collier had the same exact win % as HC of the NFL Browns. 

    And 10 coaches 1950-1995 and 9 coaches 1999-present. 

    Haven't done the quarterback numbers.

  • That is something I never knew - Paul Brown and Blanton Collier had the same exact win % as HC of the NFL Browns. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    That is something I never knew - Paul Brown and Blanton Collier had the same exact win % as HC of the NFL Browns. 

    Uhm...no.   Did you look above?  Last time I took math  .759 did not equal .675.   (maybe PBs overall win % matched if you include his years with the Bengals?)

  • @dutch-oven said:

    That is something I never knew - Paul Brown and Blanton Collier had the same exact win % as HC of the NFL Browns. 

    Uhm...no.   Did you look above?  Last time I took math  .759 did not equal .675.   (maybe PBs overall win % matched if you include his years with the Bengals?)

    @the-gipper said:

    Uhm...no.   Did you look above?  Last time I took math  .759 did not equal .675.   (maybe PBs overall win % matched if you include his years with the Bengals?)

    It appears the two lists differ, the regular season records 0.691 each just with the BROWNS which is more important,  screw cinci.

    Blanton Collier  NFL  1963-70  76-34-2 (0.691)  3-4-0 (0.429)  79-38-2 (0.675)
     Paul Brown  NFL  1950-62  111-44-5 (0.691)  4-5-0 (0.444) 115-49-5 (0.701)
     Paul Brown  AAFC  1946-49  47-4-3 (0.922)  5-0-0 (1.000)  52-4-3 (0.929)
  • @the-gipper said:

    Uhm...no.   Did you look above?  Last time I took math  .759 did not equal .675.   (maybe PBs overall win % matched if you include his years with the Bengals?)

    It appears the two lists differ, the regular season records 0.691 each just with the BROWNS which is more important,  screw cinci.

    Blanton Collier  NFL  1963-70  76-34-2 (0.691)  3-4-0 (0.429)  79-38-2 (0.675)
     Paul Brown  NFL  1950-62  111-44-5 (0.691)  4-5-0 (0.444) 115-49-5 (0.701)
     Paul Brown  AAFC  1946-49  47-4-3 (0.922)  5-0-0 (1.000)  52-4-3 (0.929)

    @mjp28 said:

    It appears the two lists differ, the regular season records 0.691 each just with the BROWNS which is more important,  screw cinci.

    Blanton Collier  NFL  1963-70  76-34-2 (0.691)  3-4-0 (0.429)  79-38-2 (0.675)
     Paul Brown  NFL  1950-62  111-44-5 (0.691)  4-5-0 (0.444) 115-49-5 (0.701)
     Paul Brown  AAFC  1946-49  47-4-3 (0.922)  5-0-0 (1.000)  52-4-3 (0.929)

    Uhm, OK....I think I was looking at the overall record including playoffs.  And/or, plus I was including AAFC.

  • @mjp28 said:

    It appears the two lists differ, the regular season records 0.691 each just with the BROWNS which is more important,  screw cinci.

    Blanton Collier  NFL  1963-70  76-34-2 (0.691)  3-4-0 (0.429)  79-38-2 (0.675)
     Paul Brown  NFL  1950-62  111-44-5 (0.691)  4-5-0 (0.444) 115-49-5 (0.701)
     Paul Brown  AAFC  1946-49  47-4-3 (0.922)  5-0-0 (1.000)  52-4-3 (0.929)

    Uhm, OK....I think I was looking at the overall record including playoffs.  And/or, plus I was including AAFC.

    @the-gipper said:

    Uhm, OK....I think I was looking at the overall record including playoffs.  And/or, plus I was including AAFC.

    And you're still driving a 1946 Chevrolet. 

    1946-chevy-pickup-specs-1.1-800x800.jpg

  • @the-gipper said:

    Uhm, OK....I think I was looking at the overall record including playoffs.  And/or, plus I was including AAFC.

    And you're still driving a 1946 Chevrolet. 

    1946-chevy-pickup-specs-1.1-800x800.jpg

    @mjp28 said:

    And you're still driving a 1946 Chevrolet. 

    1946-chevy-pickup-specs-1.1-800x800.jpg

    Not quite that old....but old enough.  A 2002 Mercury Grand Marquis.    An old man's car, I know.  But: A. I AM an old man and B. I got it cheap out of an estate I was handling.  It was proverbially the car only driven to church on Sundays by a little old lady.   So, it was reasonably low mileage considering its age.

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    No sound studio was ever required..