Russians charged over US 2016 election tampering
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The russians don't favor Trump - they want to favor both - to split America up into discord.
Then they can make major moves overseas and we are tied up in mire and can't stop them.
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Collusion is not illegal.
Collusion is not illegal.
From Law.com......
collusion n. where two persons (or business entities through their officers or other employees) enter into a deceitful agreement, usually secret, to defraud and/or gain an unfair advantage over a third party, competitors, consumers or those with whom they are negotiating. Collusion can include secret price or wage fixing, secret rebates, or pretending to be independent of each other when actually conspiring together for their joint ends. It can range from small-town shopkeepers or heirs to a grandma's estate, to gigantic electronics companies or big league baseball team owners.
See also: fraud
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Collusion is not illegal.
From Law.com......
collusion n. where two persons (or business entities through their officers or other employees) enter into a deceitful agreement, usually secret, to defraud and/or gain an unfair advantage over a third party, competitors, consumers or those with whom they are negotiating. Collusion can include secret price or wage fixing, secret rebates, or pretending to be independent of each other when actually conspiring together for their joint ends. It can range from small-town shopkeepers or heirs to a grandma's estate, to gigantic electronics companies or big league baseball team owners.
See also: fraud
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From Law.com......
collusion n. where two persons (or business entities through their officers or other employees) enter into a deceitful agreement, usually secret, to defraud and/or gain an unfair advantage over a third party, competitors, consumers or those with whom they are negotiating. Collusion can include secret price or wage fixing, secret rebates, or pretending to be independent of each other when actually conspiring together for their joint ends. It can range from small-town shopkeepers or heirs to a grandma's estate, to gigantic electronics companies or big league baseball team owners.
See also: fraud
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Your quotes mean nothing. They have said on TV (the legal beagles) that collusion in an election is not a crime.
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Russian Foreign Ministry spokesperson Maria Zakharova described the indictments Friday as "absurd.""(Thirteen) people intervened in the elections in the US?" she wrote on her Facebook page. "13 against billion-dollar budgets of special services? Against intelligence and counterintelligence, against the latest developments and technologies? ... Absurd? Yes.""This is modern American political reality," she added in the post.
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I think you're missing the bigger picture here, Tex. The Russians didn't solely target Clinton's campaign, they targeted nearly everyone's campaign, including other candidates in the primaries and even Trump after he won the election. The bigger picture here is that the Russians' aim was to sow discord amongst the general public and to throw our political system into chaos, which they have managed to do extremely well.
I will wait until I can read the entire indictment. Like i said, popcorn and a chair because there are many months to go and more people to turn. I was here for Watergate and it did not play out overnight. And Nixon was not being gone after for collusion, but for obstruction. Will his role in covering for Don Jr/Kushner on the meeting with the Russians reach that level? We shall see. Kellyanne is one of the unwitting supporters named in this document by the way. Will she eventually turn as the noose tightens? More popcorn please.
I will wait until I can read the entire indictment. Like i said, popcorn and a chair because there are many months to go and more people to turn. I was here for Watergate and it did not play out overnight. And Nixon was not being gone after for collusion, but for obstruction. Will his role in covering for Don Jr/Kushner on the meeting with the Russians reach that level? We shall see. Kellyanne is one of the unwitting supporters named in this document by the way. Will she eventually turn as the noose tightens? More popcorn please.
Remember when Obama tried to influence the Israeli election, when is his indictment coming?
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the election loss to Trump fake scandal was fixed:
Example:
That russian lawyer? Her visa had run out. You know, that russian lawyer woman who met with Trump Jr? Her name is Natalia Veselnitskaya . her visa was denied/expired. But the obaMao injustice dept allowed her to come into the country anyways.
Just in time to have that meeting with Trump Jr. ObaMao had to have approved it .Why would he approve it?
The only legit reason was to set up the Trump admin for collusion and disgrace. This is how corrupt our deep state has become, and the dem progressive party is that deep state.
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the election loss to Trump fake scandal was fixed:
Example:
That russian lawyer? Her visa had run out. You know, that russian lawyer woman who met with Trump Jr? Her name is Natalia Veselnitskaya . her visa was denied/expired. But the obaMao injustice dept allowed her to come into the country anyways.
Just in time to have that meeting with Trump Jr. ObaMao had to have approved it .Why would he approve it?
The only legit reason was to set up the Trump admin for collusion and disgrace. This is how corrupt our deep state has become, and the dem progressive party is that deep state.
the election loss to Trump fake scandal was fixed:
Example:
That russian lawyer? Her visa had run out. You know, that russian lawyer woman who met with Trump Jr? Her name is Natalia Veselnitskaya . her visa was denied/expired. But the obaMao injustice dept allowed her to come into the country anyways.
Just in time to have that meeting with Trump Jr. ObaMao had to have approved it .Why would he approve it?
The only legit reason was to set up the Trump admin for collusion and disgrace. This is how corrupt our deep state has become, and the dem progressive party is that deep state.
You're losing it cal. Now your conspiracy theory is they set up Trump, Jr so he would knowingly collude with Russians? You mean they knew his character was so weak he could do nothing more than be a traitor to his country? Please. It reminds me of a little statue I got for my wife. It was a pregnant woman with a smile on her face with a little sign underneath, "The Devil Made Me Do it!"
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okay, then you EXPLAIN obamao and his injustice dept granting her an immediate exception, after her visa
WAS DENIED, just in time to have her meet with Trump jr.. Explain it. Your denial is all wet in Egypt.
My opinion is, helping discredit the Trump campaign was part payment for URANIUM ONE.
You won't talk about URANIUM ONE, so I'm going to keep asking ya.
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Did we the taxpayer really need to pay millions of dollars for Mueller to find out about a few Russians using hashtags?
Mueller has been investigating for almost a year, and all he has to show for it is several Russians using hashtags?
Yeah, I’d say that’s a witch hunt.
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The United States would never think about trying to alter or manipulate the outcome of another country's election..
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okay, then you EXPLAIN obamao and his injustice dept granting her an immediate exception, after her visa
WAS DENIED, just in time to have her meet with Trump jr.. Explain it. Your denial is all wet in Egypt.
My opinion is, helping discredit the Trump campaign was part payment for URANIUM ONE.
You won't talk about URANIUM ONE, so I'm going to keep asking ya.
okay, then you EXPLAIN obamao and his injustice dept granting her an immediate exception, after her visa
WAS DENIED, just in time to have her meet with Trump jr.. Explain it. Your denial is all wet in Egypt.
My opinion is, helping discredit the Trump campaign was part payment for URANIUM ONE.
You won't talk about URANIUM ONE, so I'm going to keep asking ya.
Just more deflection from the current problem. We have a president unwilling to face the obvious Russian interference in our elections because he is afraid of being seen as an illegitimate president (or worse). His congress gave him the guidance to impose sanctions on the Russians. He won't do it. That is either because he is just a really shitty president or he is completely compromised financially. I lean toward the latter. We're in a war with these bastards in Russia and we have an absentee leader in Florida.
You just keep sticking with this traitor. There is no other word for him until or unless he starts taking some real leadership in counteracting what they have been doing. If all you can take from today's indictments is just more Sheet about Democrats, then you are a lost cause. Your focus should be on what they did and what they are doing to tear this democracy down and what our CURRENT president is going to do about it or why he has done nothing. Do we have a president or do we have a traitor? That's the question. Nothing else matters.
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okay, then you EXPLAIN obamao and his injustice dept granting her an immediate exception, after her visa
WAS DENIED, just in time to have her meet with Trump jr.. Explain it. Your denial is all wet in Egypt.
My opinion is, helping discredit the Trump campaign was part payment for URANIUM ONE.
You won't talk about URANIUM ONE, so I'm going to keep asking ya.
Just more deflection from the current problem. We have a president unwilling to face the obvious Russian interference in our elections because he is afraid of being seen as an illegitimate president (or worse). His congress gave him the guidance to impose sanctions on the Russians. He won't do it. That is either because he is just a really shitty president or he is completely compromised financially. I lean toward the latter. We're in a war with these bastards in Russia and we have an absentee leader in Florida.
You just keep sticking with this traitor. There is no other word for him until or unless he starts taking some real leadership in counteracting what they have been doing. If all you can take from today's indictments is just more Sheet about Democrats, then you are a lost cause. Your focus should be on what they did and what they are doing to tear this democracy down and what our CURRENT president is going to do about it or why he has done nothing. Do we have a president or do we have a traitor? That's the question. Nothing else matters.
Just more deflection from the current problem. We have a president unwilling to face the obvious Russian interference in our elections because he is afraid of being seen as an illegitimate president (or worse). His congress gave him the guidance to impose sanctions on the Russians. He won't do it. That is either because he is just a really shitty president or he is completely compromised financially. I lean toward the latter. We're in a war with these bastards in Russia and we have an absentee leader in Florida.
You just keep sticking with this traitor. There is no other word for him until or unless he starts taking some real leadership in counteracting what they have been doing. If all you can take from today's indictments is just more Sheet about Democrats, then you are a lost cause. Your focus should be on what they did and what they are doing to tear this democracy down and what our CURRENT president is going to do about it or why he has done nothing. Do we have a president or do we have a traitor? That's the question. Nothing else matters.
URANIUM ONE. Explain it, or your post is a deflection.
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okay, then you EXPLAIN obamao and his injustice dept granting her an immediate exception, after her visa
WAS DENIED, just in time to have her meet with Trump jr.. Explain it. Your denial is all wet in Egypt.
My opinion is, helping discredit the Trump campaign was part payment for URANIUM ONE.
You won't talk about URANIUM ONE, so I'm going to keep asking ya.
Just more deflection from the current problem. We have a president unwilling to face the obvious Russian interference in our elections because he is afraid of being seen as an illegitimate president (or worse). His congress gave him the guidance to impose sanctions on the Russians. He won't do it. That is either because he is just a really shitty president or he is completely compromised financially. I lean toward the latter. We're in a war with these bastards in Russia and we have an absentee leader in Florida.
You just keep sticking with this traitor. There is no other word for him until or unless he starts taking some real leadership in counteracting what they have been doing. If all you can take from today's indictments is just more Sheet about Democrats, then you are a lost cause. Your focus should be on what they did and what they are doing to tear this democracy down and what our CURRENT president is going to do about it or why he has done nothing. Do we have a president or do we have a traitor? That's the question. Nothing else matters.
Just more deflection from the current problem. We have a president unwilling to face the obvious Russian interference in our elections because he is afraid of being seen as an illegitimate president (or worse). His congress gave him the guidance to impose sanctions on the Russians. He won't do it. That is either because he is just a really shitty president or he is completely compromised financially. I lean toward the latter. We're in a war with these bastards in Russia and we have an absentee leader in Florida.
You just keep sticking with this traitor. There is no other word for him until or unless he starts taking some real leadership in counteracting what they have been doing. If all you can take from today's indictments is just more Sheet about Democrats, then you are a lost cause. Your focus should be on what they did and what they are doing to tear this democracy down and what our CURRENT president is going to do about it or why he has done nothing. Do we have a president or do we have a traitor? That's the question. Nothing else matters.
"Legal experts say there are legitimate reasons an administration might need to withhold sanctions that it's required by law to implement. It might know something Congress doesn't about how putting these in place could harm national security. And some key Republicans seem to be giving the administration the benefit of the doubt that that's exactly what's going on."
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If you believe your government knew nothing about this until Mueller wrote it down you are well schooled in delusion. Police departments were pressured around the country to let these people brawl like Gangs of New York. Surely someone knew why they were doing it. They can't pretend they didn't know when they were controlling the police. This Russia thing is becoming obvious bullsshitt now.
Seriously ask yourself what is more likely, that the FBI knew nothing about the people staging large violent protests across the country until recently or they are blaming Russia for some of the mess they don't want to admit to?
We've now gone from hackers to rally organizers on both sides. I hardly find ignorance an option at this point. If it happened, they let it happen.
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The bigger picture here is that the Russians' aim was to sow discord amongst the general public and to throw our political system into chaos, which they have managed to do extremely well.
Looks like they won.
And at the end of the day if Hillary's campaign had not been dirty none of this would have happened.
WSS
Looks like they won.
And at the end of the day if Hillary's campaign had not been dirty none of this would have happened.
WSS
Stuart
If Hillary had won the election, none of this would be happening....no Mueller investigation, no nothing.
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Just more deflection from the current problem. We have a president unwilling to face the obvious Russian interference in our elections because he is afraid of being seen as an illegitimate president (or worse). His congress gave him the guidance to impose sanctions on the Russians. He won't do it. That is either because he is just a really shitty president or he is completely compromised financially. I lean toward the latter. We're in a war with these bastards in Russia and we have an absentee leader in Florida.
You just keep sticking with this traitor. There is no other word for him until or unless he starts taking some real leadership in counteracting what they have been doing. If all you can take from today's indictments is just more Sheet about Democrats, then you are a lost cause. Your focus should be on what they did and what they are doing to tear this democracy down and what our CURRENT president is going to do about it or why he has done nothing. Do we have a president or do we have a traitor? That's the question. Nothing else matters.
URANIUM ONE. Explain it, or your post is a deflection.
URANIUM ONE. Explain it, or your post is a deflection.
No cal. She ain't the prez. You have to explain why his "fake news" of Russian interference is no longer his fake news in his tweet. I can explain it. When part of a con is discovered, you quickly move on to the next part of the con, "collusion" is now the new "fake news" and we are asked to ignore the old "Russian interference fake news".
Your problem is you are unable to use your Mr. Spock claim at looking clearly at this fraud. You're so stuck in the past you can't see the forest for the trees. Catch up to who is president, not who might have been.
And BTW what makes you think that half (or more) of the sheet you throw up on this board is not part of the Russian propaganda disinformation campaign? Pay close attention in the coming months as more and more of your "truths " are unveiled as Russian propaganda factory inventions. Ever think you are part of the unwitting Americans referred to in the indictment? When it's all over in a couple of years you're going to realize what I've known from day one. The Liar in Chief is deeply involved with the Russians. The country bought a con artist.
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URANIUM ONE. Explain it, or your post is a deflection.
No cal. She ain't the prez. You have to explain why his "fake news" of Russian interference is no longer his fake news in his tweet. I can explain it. When part of a con is discovered, you quickly move on to the next part of the con, "collusion" is now the new "fake news" and we are asked to ignore the old "Russian interference fake news".
Your problem is you are unable to use your Mr. Spock claim at looking clearly at this fraud. You're so stuck in the past you can't see the forest for the trees. Catch up to who is president, not who might have been.
And BTW what makes you think that half (or more) of the sheet you throw up on this board is not part of the Russian propaganda disinformation campaign? Pay close attention in the coming months as more and more of your "truths " are unveiled as Russian propaganda factory inventions. Ever think you are part of the unwitting Americans referred to in the indictment? When it's all over in a couple of years you're going to realize what I've known from day one. The Liar in Chief is deeply involved with the Russians. The country bought a con artist.
No cal. She ain't the prez.
No she wasn’t the Prez, but she was a high ranking government official that benefited financially from a deal with the Russians.
If you can look past that, but continue to rail against Trump your political bias is showing.
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I think you're missing the bigger picture here, Tex. The Russians didn't solely target Clinton's campaign, they targeted nearly everyone's campaign, including other candidates in the primaries and even Trump after he won the election. The bigger picture here is that the Russians' aim was to sow discord amongst the general public and to throw our political system into chaos, which they have managed to do extremely well.
I think you're missing the bigger picture here,
Stuart
Funny you said that.
Everyone's missing the bigger picture. This is nothing new. The practice of countries trying to influence the elections of other countries has been going on for decades reaching its height during the cold war. The U.S. does it, Russia does it, China does it, the UK does it...Obama helped influence the most recent Israeli election, so where's the indictment?
So why is it now a big deal?
Because Trump is president, and you leftists cant handle it. Whatever it takes to delegitimize or to place doubt in the minds of Americans that this duly elected president president was duly elected. That his election was tainted.
This deep state engineered indictment is a sham and the charges won't stick, and that OK because the point is to put something out there, any fuukking thing. So now we have the latest nothingburger with these 16 Russians ...."gee Trump musta done something wrong", to you simpleton Trump hating liberal scumbags.
Wouldn't it be fabulous if Israel decided to indict Obama for his tampering in their elections!!??
Somehow this idea has got to be relayed to Netanyahu. Anyone know have his phone#? lol
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No she wasn't the president. She was the Secretary of State. And took money to arrange a sweet deal for the Russkies.
Then she colluded with them with the fake dossier to meddle in our Democratic process.
WSS
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