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  • Canton Dawg Canton DawgC Conversation Starter Dedicated Very Popular Posting Machine Collaborator First Post Reacting Well Week One Done One Month Later One Year In
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    Canton DawgC Canton Dawg wrote on last edited by
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      Canton DawgC Canton Dawg wrote on last edited by
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      • DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan

        No gun control above what we have right now only this:

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        MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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        @diehardbrownsfan said:

        No gun control above what we have right now only this:

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        Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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          MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by MLD Woody
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          @westside-steve said:

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          ..... this is  a fake Twitter account

          I know it is easier to just assume things like this are real, because you like what they say. But just an ounce of investigation will show you this is clearly a fake account

          smh

          Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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            @westside-steve said:

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            ..... this is  a fake Twitter account

            I know it is easier to just assume things like this are real, because you like what they say. But just an ounce of investigation will show you this is clearly a fake account

            smh

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            @mld-woody said:

            ..... this is  a fake Twitter account

            I know it is easier to just assume things like this are real, because you like what they say. But just an ounce of investigation will show you this is clearly a fake account

            smh

            😵

            Oops.

            Shoulda checked it out....

            Edit I couldn't find it on Snopes but I'll take your word for it.

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              C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by calfoxwc
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              @canton-dawg said:

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              "...and called me a 'woodpecker' "

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                @mld-woody said:

                ..... this is  a fake Twitter account

                I know it is easier to just assume things like this are real, because you like what they say. But just an ounce of investigation will show you this is clearly a fake account

                smh

                😵

                Oops.

                Shoulda checked it out....

                Edit I couldn't find it on Snopes but I'll take your word for it.

                WSS

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                MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                @westside-steve said:

                😵

                Oops.

                Shoulda checked it out....

                Edit I couldn't find it on Snopes but I'll take your word for it.

                WSS

                Her actual handle is MaxineWaters, and it is verified.

                That's MaxinePWaters, and it isn't verified. Also, all of the tweets by that account are clearly there to make here look bad.

                Of course, enough people think that is real and it has probably reinforced their political opinions... 

                Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                  C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                  http://www.azquotes.com/author/21938-Maxine_Waters

                  so, here's some real quotes by stupid maxine waters

                  quote-i-have-to-march-because-my-mother-

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                    Guess what this liberal would be all about? This liberal will be about socializing...uh, um...Would be about, basically, taking over, and the government running all of your companies.

                    Maxine Waters

                    It's time for the bully pulpit of the White House to bring the gangstas in, put them around the table and let them know that if they don't come up with loan modifications and keep people in their homes that they've worked so hard for, we're gonna tax them out of business.

                    Maxine Waters

                    We do not have a crisis at Freddie Mac, and particularly Fannie Mae, under the outstanding leadership of Frank Raines.

                    Maxine Waters    (because he's BLACK)
                     

                    I think that when you saw Donald Trump absolutely calling Hillary Clinton crooked, the "lock her up, lock her up," all of that was developed. I think that was developed strategically with people from the Kremlin, with Vladimir Putin.

                    Maxine Waters

                    Riot is the voice of the unheard.

                    Maxine Waters
                     

                    I am not afraid of anybody. This is a tough game. You can't be intimidated. You can't be frightened. And as far as I'm concerned, the Tea Party can go straight to hell.

                    Maxine Waters

                    http://humanevents.com/2011/08/27/top-10-outrageous-maxine-waters-quotes-2/

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                      W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by
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                      https://mobile.twitter.com/maxinepwaters

                      By the way didn't mean to get hijacked into an entire Maxine Waters thread. Anybody have an opinion on the unfortunate fact that only Zero Tolerance will have any effect on gun violence?

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                        B BaconHound wrote on last edited by
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                        Unfortunately the mere discussion of guns in America is being framed improperly, it's about practical real life experience and not idealism.

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                          Unfortunately the mere discussion of guns in America is being framed improperly, it's about practical real life experience and not idealism.

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                          @baconhound said:

                          Unfortunately the mere discussion of guns in America is being framed improperly, it's about practical real life experience and not idealism.

                           you will need to elaborate on that.

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                            http://www.azquotes.com/author/21938-Maxine_Waters

                            so, here's some real quotes by stupid maxine waters

                            quote-i-have-to-march-because-my-mother-

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                            MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                            @calfoxwc said:

                            http://www.azquotes.com/author/21938-Maxine_Waters

                            so, here's some real quotes by stupid maxine waters

                            quote-i-have-to-march-because-my-mother-

                            https://www.truthorfiction.com/maxine-waters-i-march-because-my-mother-couldnt-have-an-abortion/

                            Looks like there's a very real chance that is fake. So good start there Cal... But I can't say I'm surprised. You only know how to find info you agree with, not reputable info. 

                            Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                              https://mobile.twitter.com/maxinepwaters

                              By the way didn't mean to get hijacked into an entire Maxine Waters thread. Anybody have an opinion on the unfortunate fact that only Zero Tolerance will have any effect on gun violence?

                              WSS

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                              MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                              @westside-steve said:

                              https://mobile.twitter.com/maxinepwaters

                              By the way didn't mean to get hijacked into an entire Maxine Waters thread. Anybody have an opinion on the unfortunate fact that only Zero Tolerance will have any effect on gun violence?

                              WSS

                              I'm sure you didn't, but that shed a light on a very real, underlying problem with any political debate. How are we going to debate the merits of gun control when you, and so many others, believe a fake twitter account? When you believe whatever fake news goes in front of you because it reinforces your beliefs? 

                              It's hard to have any real debate there. The other side has to first tell you why your info is actual fake news. And then if you're presented with real info that disagrees with your worldview it will be called fake news.

                              I get you think that Maxine Waters stuff was off topic... But it's at the very core of what's wrong with our country politically today. 

                              Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                                OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by OldBrownsFan
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                                I think the gun control debate should be this: How do we protect gun rights for law abiding citizens and keep guns away from those who have no business owning one much less something like an assault rifle? In the latest case it sure looks like the FBI dropped the ball when they were tipped off about the shooter in Florida and failed to do anything. In the church shooting a few months ago the shooter should not have been able to have a gun with a domestic violence in the Air Force that failed to get entered into the system. We have to be honest and admit that there are no laws that can prevent these shootings but we can take steps to try to minimize them. Like most issues with terrorism we should look to our friends in Israel and use their models in our own schools with armed teachers and better security. Designated "gun free" zones are just plain stupid and probably even make things worse as murderers know they will be facing unarmed people. What I don't want to see happen is law abiding citizens losing their second amendment rights over the actions of a few evil people.

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                                  @westside-steve said:

                                  https://mobile.twitter.com/maxinepwaters

                                  By the way didn't mean to get hijacked into an entire Maxine Waters thread. Anybody have an opinion on the unfortunate fact that only Zero Tolerance will have any effect on gun violence?

                                  WSS

                                  I'm sure you didn't, but that shed a light on a very real, underlying problem with any political debate. How are we going to debate the merits of gun control when you, and so many others, believe a fake twitter account? When you believe whatever fake news goes in front of you because it reinforces your beliefs? 

                                  It's hard to have any real debate there. The other side has to first tell you why your info is actual fake news. And then if you're presented with real info that disagrees with your worldview it will be called fake news.

                                  I get you think that Maxine Waters stuff was off topic... But it's at the very core of what's wrong with our country politically today. 

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                                  @mld-woody said:

                                  I'm sure you didn't, but that shed a light on a very real, underlying problem with any political debate. How are we going to debate the merits of gun control when you, and so many others, believe a fake twitter account? When you believe whatever fake news goes in front of you because it reinforces your beliefs? 

                                  It's hard to have any real debate there. The other side has to first tell you why your info is actual fake news. And then if you're presented with real info that disagrees with your worldview it will be called fake news.

                                  I get you think that Maxine Waters stuff was off topic... But it's at the very core of what's wrong with our country politically today. 

                                  Actually I neglected to check out the post which I usually do. And I admitted it. And even after that rather than to add anything to the conversation you continue down your road of defending Ms Waters tooth and nail.

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                                    Canton DawgC Canton Dawg wrote on last edited by
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                                    Just think, over 3000 Americans lost their lives on 9/11 and not a single shot was fired.

                                    The Oklahoma City bomber killed 168 with fertilizer.

                                    There was a guy in China that hacked and killed 34 to death with a knife.

                                    Vehicles seem to be en Vogue these days, used to mow down pedestrians.

                                    Stopping the guns isn’t the answer, where there’s a will...there’s a way.

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                                      Just think, over 3000 Americans lost their lives on 9/11 and not a single shot was fired.

                                      The Oklahoma City bomber killed 168 with fertilizer.

                                      There was a guy in China that hacked and killed 34 to death with a knife.

                                      Vehicles seem to be en Vogue these days, used to mow down pedestrians.

                                      Stopping the guns isn’t the answer, where there’s a will...there’s a way.

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                                      @canton-dawg said:

                                      Just think, over 3000 Americans lost their lives on 9/11 and not a single shot was fired.

                                      The Oklahoma City bomber killed 168 with fertilizer.

                                      There was a guy in China that hacked and killed 34 to death with a knife.

                                      Vehicles seem to be en Vogue these days, used to mow down pedestrians.

                                      Stopping the guns isn’t the answer, where there’s a will...there’s a way.

                                      That's not true. The only way to cut down on or stop gun violence is a zero tolerance policy for gun possession. 10 or 20 years for possession 20 or 40 for selling 40 to life for smuggling. Guaranteed prison terms sooner or later the guns will be gone and there will be less gun violence. That's really the case. Anybody disagree? You're dreaming.

                                      I'm not advocating that just facing the fact. And yes we will still have butcher knives arson swords clubs vehicles Etc but if the goal is really to eliminate gun violence that's it.

                                      We want the issue not the solution.

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                                        DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                                        Never happen.  It would be impossible to enforce in this country. There are millions upon millions of guns already out, with probably billions of ammo, etc.  Records of who owns what are probably very sketchy at best.  

                                        "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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                                          Never happen.  It would be impossible to enforce in this country. There are millions upon millions of guns already out, with probably billions of ammo, etc.  Records of who owns what are probably very sketchy at best.  

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                                          @diehardbrownsfan said:

                                          Never happen.  It would be impossible to enforce in this country. There are millions upon millions of guns already out, with probably billions of ammo, etc.  Records of who owns what are probably very sketchy at best.  

                                          I never said it would happen I never said I advocated it.  I said that's the only policy that will work. And even if it did the effort would have to be draconian and it would take decades.

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