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Trade Kizer and release Gordon ?

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  • dawg2fan dawg2fanD
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    dawg2fanD dawg2fan wrote on last edited by
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    A terrible move for us to trade Kizer.  I've said this before and I'll say it again:  "He was a rookie with no around to give him the overall train him or at least know what to expect."  I've compared him to Goff (#1 overall selection).  Even though Goff had playoff players on his team and we didn't, he still only won 4 games.  Do not let Kizer go.  I wouldn't have a problem with letting Gordon go though.  We probably won't find a WR as gifted as him, but you never know when he will go back to smoking weed.  Then we'll have no choice but to let him go.  

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      DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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      Dump Kizer.  No loss.

      "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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        gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by gumby73
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        quit posting anything to do with CBS attaching Jason Fa-La-La Canfora name to anything..The guys a nobody wanting clicks..Were paying Kizer,465K,690K,915K & 1.1M if we get to 2020. Kizer was shown the turf due to Brock,Kessler & Hogan..Cut Them other 2 too...Gordon? Did ya see what we paid Britt just to leave? Gordon basic'ly cost us nothing to keep him this season..Can't a ford'a..Your A Joke!!

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        • DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan

          Dump Kizer.  No loss.

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          mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by
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          @diehardbrownsfan said:

          Dump Kizer.  No loss.

          And the BROWNS quarterback situation will be further reduced, this team needs every WR, QB available until help arrives.......maybe in 2019 or 2020. 😆

          GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND!
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            The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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            Why trade Kizer?  And for what.  I mean....unless someone wants to replenish the 2d rounder we used on him....no way. Despite his suckotage....he should still be kept as a backup  (over Kessler and Hogan)

            And the suggestion to dump Gordon......that is just Hatorade.   Either hate for the Browns (it was LaCanfora...so....that is likely)  or hate for Gordon...which is just as likely.

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              Why trade Kizer?  And for what.  I mean....unless someone wants to replenish the 2d rounder we used on him....no way. Despite his suckotage....he should still be kept as a backup  (over Kessler and Hogan)

              And the suggestion to dump Gordon......that is just Hatorade.   Either hate for the Browns (it was LaCanfora...so....that is likely)  or hate for Gordon...which is just as likely.

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              mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by
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              @the-gipper said:

              Why trade Kizer?  And for what.  I mean....unless someone wants to replenish the 2d rounder we used on him....no way. Despite his suckotage....he should still be kept as a backup  (over Kessler and Hogan)

              And the suggestion to dump Gordon......that is just Hatorade.   Either hate for the Browns (it was LaCanfora...so....that is likely)  or hate for Gordon...which is just as likely.

              Yeah maybe they can pick up a 13th pick in the draft for Kizer. 😆

              GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND!
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                tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
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                247 is trash and Canfora is a hack.

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                  Kizer yes....Josh not yet

                  https://247sports.com/nfl/cleveland-browns/Bolt/CBS-Browns-should-trade-DeShone-Kizer-release-Josh-Gordon-115288065?utm_campaign=Contact+Quiboat+For+More+Referrer&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=quiboat&utm_content=&utm_term=

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                  hoortaH hoorta wrote on last edited by
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                  @darren15 said:

                  Kizer yes....Josh not yet

                  https://247sports.com/nfl/cleveland-browns/Bolt/CBS-Browns-should-trade-DeShone-Kizer-release-Josh-Gordon-115288065?utm_campaign=Contact+Quiboat+For+More+Referrer&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=quiboat&utm_content=&utm_term=

                  It's well documented LaCanfora hates the Browns. 

                  1) We wouldn't get a sack of potatoes for Kizer. 

                  2) No news is good news about Josh. He stays clean, still one of the top 10 wrs in the game.

                  Browns fans should ignore this guy.

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                  • tiamat63T tiamat63

                    247 is trash and Canfora is a hack.

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                    mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by
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                    @tiamat63 said:

                    247 is trash and Canfora is a hack.

                    Maybe he had a deadline and nothing going on in his head? 😆

                    GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND!
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                      @tiamat63 said:

                      247 is trash and Canfora is a hack.

                      Maybe he had a deadline and nothing going on in his head? 😆

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                      tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
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                      @mjp28 said:

                      Maybe he had a deadline and nothing going on in his head? 😆

                      Which is different from any other time.... how?

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                        MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                        We'd be idiots to trade Kizer

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                        • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody

                          We'd be idiots to trade Kizer

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                          hoortaH hoorta wrote on last edited by
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                          @mld-woody said:

                          We'd be idiots to trade Kizer

                          Exactly Woodster- he's still on his rookie 2nd round deal (looked it up on spotrac just over $1 million) and at worst he'll be third string this year. 

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                            News must be slow for LaCanfora.. this is only a move we "should" do when you realize his initial assumption is that the Browns "should" always be making bad deals that benefit everyone else.

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                              DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                              DeShone Kizer   #7 QB

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                              Height: 6-4   Weight: 233   Age: 22

                              Born: 1/3/1996 Toledo , OH

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                                The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                                Yea, we know all about him....what's your point?

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                                • tiamat63T tiamat63

                                  247 is trash and Canfora is a hack.

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                                  stillmotionS stillmotion wrote on last edited by
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                                  @tiamat63 said:

                                  247 is trash and Canfora is a hack.

                                  we usually don't agree on much, but you're dead right.

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                                    GhoolieG Ghoolie wrote on last edited by
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                                    I would have never drafted the kid. That said, I will repeat myself for #201, he has more upside, and greater physical skills than any QB we have, and more than likely, any QB we are considering.

                                    The kid had the Steelers dead to rights. Fumble fingers Coleman screwed the kid over. Kizer can play. Unfortunately, he mixes in enough horseschidt to sour an entire game. Decision making? He can get better. Really, is he costing so much that releasing him is a big bonus? WHo would we put in his place? 

                                    Sorry, this kid has better skills than RG3. He likes his job, the players like him, he isn't making a mess off the field and reportedly he is a hard butt worker. Black Tarkenton or not, you gotta be nuts to get rid of a kid of this caliber. 

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                                      Yea, we know all about him....what's your point?

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                                      DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                                      @the-gipper said:

                                      Yea, we know all about him....what's your point?

                                      He sucks.

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                                        jiggins7919J jiggins7919 wrote on last edited by
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                                        Trading Kizer makes no sense. Although he had a miserable season, he still got a TON of experience. If the game ever slows down for him, we may have a solid backup QB worst case, and best case we have a guy who could start (although severely unlikely). Kizer was 21 people, and he showed toughness, grit, and best of all, heart. That last game against Pittsburgh really showed me something, and although he started off MISERABLY and our team was down 14 early, he didn't lose his head and probably finished playing the best game of the year. And don't give me any crap about Pittsburgh resting their players because they didn't. The ONLY defensive player who didn't play was their star DT. 

                                        It's not worth discussing trading Josh Gordon because that's dumb. 

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                                          I would have never drafted the kid. That said, I will repeat myself for #201, he has more upside, and greater physical skills than any QB we have, and more than likely, any QB we are considering.

                                          The kid had the Steelers dead to rights. Fumble fingers Coleman screwed the kid over. Kizer can play. Unfortunately, he mixes in enough horseschidt to sour an entire game. Decision making? He can get better. Really, is he costing so much that releasing him is a big bonus? WHo would we put in his place? 

                                          Sorry, this kid has better skills than RG3. He likes his job, the players like him, he isn't making a mess off the field and reportedly he is a hard butt worker. Black Tarkenton or not, you gotta be nuts to get rid of a kid of this caliber. 

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                                          T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by TexasAg1969
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                                          @ghoolie said:

                                          I would have never drafted the kid. That said, I will repeat myself for #201, he has more upside, and greater physical skills than any QB we have, and more than likely, any QB we are considering.

                                          The kid had the Steelers dead to rights. Fumble fingers Coleman screwed the kid over. Kizer can play. Unfortunately, he mixes in enough horseschidt to sour an entire game. Decision making? He can get better. Really, is he costing so much that releasing him is a big bonus? WHo would we put in his place? 

                                          Sorry, this kid has better skills than RG3. He likes his job, the players like him, he isn't making a mess off the field and reportedly he is a hard butt worker. Black Tarkenton or not, you gotta be nuts to get rid of a kid of this caliber. 

                                          With a real HC the rookie could have had 4-5 wins in 2017. Huey Fig Newton did him no favors and his so called "receivers" even less so. I have not given up on him either.

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